Yeah I've been wondering about that too, just around their eyes, it all looks weirdly swollen. Maybe all the pollution/soot in the air? This would have been peak coal I'd imagine.
He's likely staying perfectly still on purpose because he thinks someone is taking a photograph and he wants his image to not be blurry. Ascribing sociopathy or neurodivergence to this is not a reasonable assumption
Saw this on instagram the other day, so many sad and miserable people saying this was peak society. "No blue hair, unsure about gender" or "no one cares about climate" and other bullshit with 10k+ likes...
Lucky bastards.. I get to do the same 12h shift, get constant harasment through my phone and email, write down every hour what I've been doing and at the end of the day the pub is way too expensive to go.
This was something women did all over the world in the 1900's and well before, kinda like how many used to wear hats as well. It's only now that it's seen as specifc to some cultures and creeds.
Much like men wearing hats. Part of it is "modesty".(aka prudishness), part deference before god to not go out with an uncovered head, part is practicality to have a head covering. Not unlike it was in many muslim countries at that time.
In Germany, at that time still more common in rural areas, girls and unmarried women were encouraged to wear braids and when married to wear a "hood" in public. Openly worn hair was a bit slutty and scandalous.
Headscarves were pretty common, for cultural reasons all over Europe. A german figure of speech for a girl getting married is still "to get under the hood". At the same time, many majority muslim countries had a much more lenient attitude towards it than they do today, not so radically different than Europe at the time.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I see two persons with heads uncovered in the whole street. People where covering their heads outside. Pretty much in all european countries and america up to 1960s. Because something something antibiotics.
I love scifi but i don't know that much about science...is this moment actually going on at this moment or is it long gone in "time" ... I know what you actually ment but the way you said it made me think WHAT IF things that we are rewatching now from the past IS going on at the same time as we are watching them from the future ?...kinda makes my head hurt...a little
Fuck. I just had a scary thought, I have an (almost) 13yo son now, it is 2024, and the way historical trends seem to play out in the trifecta of pandemic, financial crisis, increasing authoritarianism/fascism, ending in full scale war...that doesn't bode well for the timeframe of him being a young adult. I was in Afghanistan, I have PTSD and it's absolute shit, I don't want that for him. I know that nothing is certain and "history repeating itself" is a very dubious idea, but that worries me.
You are not alone in this fear, and the kids see it too. My 17 yr old just got diagnosed with a chronic illness. His bright takaway is he's no longer eligible for the draft.
Every 10 years we alternatively have a war or a recession & I am convinced that they are contrived and premeditated: the pandemic screwed up this decade's schedule by bumping Putin's war back instead of having it start during the election year, and are having a hell of a time holding off the 2030 recession till the end of the decade, but the script must go on.
Because at the end of the day, someone somewhere is always going to hate you. You've never met or talked to them but they hate you for who you are, or where you come from, and if they get the chance they might just try to kill you for it.
Far more similar than I expected. I found mortality rates of about 15% for both childhood (young childhood that is) and the war. That's for British soldiers and children.
They definitely had a higher chance of surviving childhood than one of the bloodiest wars in history. As long ago as it may have been; it’s not like this was the Dark Ages with the Plague or something with people dropping dead in the streets. All those kids have basic vaccinations.
Exactly, “first year of life.” These lads likely made it to adulthood if they did not die in the war. Smallpox and other vaccines became mandatory in Britain in 1853. It wasn’t until the 1940’s that it became largely mandatory for most of the World.
Fuck I noticed a discrepancy there. See that little brass disc on the buttstock of the middle dude's rifle? That was only on the pre-early war variant of the Lee Enfield. It would have the unit to which it belonged stamped on it for identification. Around 1916, they realized the Germans could use captured rifles to gain Intel on unit deployment and removed/stopped making them. The man on the left has a late war variant with no disc cutout. Uniformity would be enforced, so disc needs removed.
That said, this may be colorized historical footage, in which case... idk. Could be middle of the Somme when everything was a shitshow and nobody gave a fuck anymore. Idk. I can't tell if this is from 1917 or They Shall Not Grow Old.
Odincdaj522004
I wonder if the kid with his hands in his vest pockets thought he had to stay still for a long time, like pictures used to require.
gingersnapdragon
These are not just kids on the street. These are children coming off factory shifts. Education laws were real life changers
LogicKitty
Edwardian Britain in Colour. I liked that mini docu-series
Cryolith
That kid on the left looks like he's on his third wife with 5 kids at home.
kirmes
5 kids at home - that's probably true
OhIfIMust
🎶Consider yourself…🎵
JustAnotherVictimOfAmbientMorality
This is the future conservatives want.
Mockingbirb
Are they alright?!
aqueueforyou
Nope!
Manhoarder
And america wants to go back to those good ol days when child (abuse) labour was legal.
DontTazeMeBrah
The children yearn for the mines.
dixxienormus
I see dead people.
WhyIsTherePooUnderTheToiletSeat
Lots of dead children
Midgarmerc
Why do I get the feeling their eyes look like that for extremely depressing reasons?
SaladinIskander
Yeah I've been wondering about that too, just around their eyes, it all looks weirdly swollen. Maybe all the pollution/soot in the air? This would have been peak coal I'd imagine.
immabearrawr
Blue Steel.
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garbuhj
He's likely staying perfectly still on purpose because he thinks someone is taking a photograph and he wants his image to not be blurry. Ascribing sociopathy or neurodivergence to this is not a reasonable assumption
HawkmanXLII
You're right
Kurchak
All those Muslim women in England at that time, surprising /s
stuart1965
How many of those kids would be alive in 18 years time I wonder. Sad thought.
Hello12381h191
Saw this on instagram the other day, so many sad and miserable people saying this was peak society. "No blue hair, unsure about gender" or "no one cares about climate" and other bullshit with 10k+ likes...
TheLovelessHummingbird
:(
glovelyday
The kid in front dosen't quite understand the whole "movie" concept yet.
Housemaster
They didn't have many examples in 1901
1eudaemonia
ah yes the early 1900s kids. I was a late 1900s kid myself.
kahlas
Look here you little shit. https://www.tiktok.com/@mandatoryfunday/video/7202719454332030250
DrSharkbite
Pretty sure that’s Christian Bale up front
wadenelson
god what a scene. thanks for posting.
Epicgefiltefish
Found the video:
https://youtu.be/5HbElEqm1TQ
oxygenisnotfree
Crazy. Thanks for sauce!
pizzapartyhard
Fun fact: 1901 is closer to 1899 than 1904.
kevlarburrito
….k
hornets16
Well the 4th of July is closer to 1899 than both those years combined ! USA USA USA! Suck it loser !🤪
ps238principal
Man, everyone was goth back then.
kahlas
Ah yes. These little rapscallions just got off their 12 hour shift at the textile mill and are spotted on their way to the pub for a couple of pints.
MarcUK
It must pay well, just look at their 3 piece suits.
makeSX
Lucky bastards.. I get to do the same 12h shift, get constant harasment through my phone and email, write down every hour what I've been doing and at the end of the day the pub is way too expensive to go.
Rendova
So they will be in their late 60s when those damn Beatles destroy the culture.
zFUBARz
If they survive the various wars
HandoB4Javert
Back when no one could afford a house, the landlords did what they liked and food prices meant few could guarantee food every day of the week...
RawChicken
You mean just like now for a lot of people too?
SkeksiLady
So now?
HandoB4Javert
It's so different now...
StephenDaniels
Thank god I wasn't alive during that time. I'm sure I'd lose my hat just about every day and boy my mother would have been furious.
Ifekinlovesauerkraut
Oh smack, there goes my baseball cap, it's gone gone gone (aaaaahhh), can't get it back.
OliverClothesoff70
Carpe Diem.
MissSiesta
They look like they work in the mines and will die by 14
ProfessorDumbass
Lots of women with covered heads. Pretty sure its just bloody cold..maybe fashion....but not sure about any other social reasons
craigwilliams69
And not an ankle in sight. A much more respectable era.
Kompi
This was something women did all over the world in the 1900's and well before, kinda like how many used to wear hats as well. It's only now that it's seen as specifc to some cultures and creeds.
VaultGirl69
Most head coverings start for practical reasons. Shield from the elements, or simply don't want to do your hair that day. Or bugs...
Youhavinagiraffe
Hat wearing and women covering their heads was the norm for centuries. It was still required by most Christian churchs at this time
derekjohn
Well into the 1950s English women did not go out of the house without a hat or scarf. The 1960s changed that.
Grinderslev
Do you know if it was the same reasoning as for some muslim women today? (Covering your hair to not being provocative, unseemly) afaik.
mercyPandaRunner
Much like men wearing hats. Part of it is "modesty".(aka prudishness), part deference before god to not go out with an uncovered head, part is practicality to have a head covering.
Not unlike it was in many muslim countries at that time.
In Germany, at that time still more common in rural areas, girls and unmarried women were encouraged to wear braids and when married to wear a "hood" in public. Openly worn hair was a bit slutty and scandalous.
Grinderslev
Cool. Thanks. Me and my slutty hair appreciates it
mercyPandaRunner
Headscarves were pretty common, for cultural reasons all over Europe. A german figure of speech for a girl getting married is still "to get under the hood".
At the same time, many majority muslim countries had a much more lenient attitude towards it than they do today, not so radically different than Europe at the time.
AzgarOgly
Correct me if I am wrong, but I see two persons with heads uncovered in the whole street.
People where covering their heads outside. Pretty much in all european countries and america up to 1960s.
Because something something antibiotics.
Soggybathroomsock
Society's got a short memory. My grandma covered her head for grocery shopping.
ProfessorDumbass
I dont remember your grandmother and grew up in warmer climate. But I blame Doctor Who for showing me bad English history
TheBladesAurus
Mine did it to protect her perm from the rain/wind
JoeyJoJoJrShabadoo7
The queen would do it all the time too
FrozenSTi
in 13 years these boys will be in the trenches
wiltsjunk
That was my first thought as well
uzetaab
My thoughts was that in 13 years (from now) kids will look that world weary again at the rate we are going.
SpaceHaggis
agonarch
Silver lining: They probably won't have to put up with it for long!
mytruepersonality
they probably already worked 50 hour weeks.
Ifekinlovesauerkraut
Fun fact: Everybody in this clip is dead. Sorry, had to say it, it's obligatory now.
Finain
But for now the children yearn for the mines
davidseavey726
The Great War until WWII both tragic let’s not do another people!!
petrolhead1987
Might be a bit too late for that pal.
SnowIsCool615
My favorite “rock plaque” at the peak of Ben Nevis (tallest mountain in Scotland).
betwitched
I’m already against the next war
RootMeanSqr
Yeah, and they all died.
MarkSengenberger
It'll be a nice change of pace from their Monday thru Saturday jobs in the coal mines.
PanNonOpticon
Some of them had died before that.
ElvisCatStello
Def the kid on the left at the beginning
MrGubbmintMan
Is your username a Magnus Archives reference?
AnAverageBoxEnthusiast
most of them
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Provided they survive the mines or don't lose a limb in a factory accident.
Bytencoder
They will not grow old.
JerzeeTomato
That was my exact 1st thought, as well.
JustPissingAgainstTheWindYOLO
I love scifi but i don't know that much about science...is this moment actually going on at this moment or is it long gone in "time" ... I know what you actually ment but the way you said it made me think WHAT IF things that we are rewatching now from the past IS going on at the same time as we are watching them from the future ?...kinda makes my head hurt...a little
spookyu
Fuck. I just had a scary thought, I have an (almost) 13yo son now, it is 2024, and the way historical trends seem to play out in the trifecta of pandemic, financial crisis, increasing authoritarianism/fascism, ending in full scale war...that doesn't bode well for the timeframe of him being a young adult. I was in Afghanistan, I have PTSD and it's absolute shit, I don't want that for him. I know that nothing is certain and "history repeating itself" is a very dubious idea, but that worries me.
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
Keep your aspsports current. I have a 13-yo as well. It is definitely a worry.
ExquisiteConundrum
My son is going to be 11. And im over here trying to figure out how we can avoid any sort of draft that will happen in the future.
oxygenisnotfree
You are not alone in this fear, and the kids see it too. My 17 yr old just got diagnosed with a chronic illness. His bright takaway is he's no longer eligible for the draft.
mountainofpuppies
Four horsemen
Nerdgoggles
Every 10 years we alternatively have a war or a recession & I am convinced that they are contrived and premeditated: the pandemic screwed up this decade's schedule by bumping Putin's war back instead of having it start during the election year, and are having a hell of a time holding off the 2030 recession till the end of the decade, but the script must go on.
HandoB4Javert
Iwontbeback
Because at the end of the day, someone somewhere is always going to hate you. You've never met or talked to them but they hate you for who you are, or where you come from, and if they get the chance they might just try to kill you for it.
joepineapplesindrag
Good luck, everyone.
getadogupya
weave
I wonder which they were better chances of surviving, statistically speaking, the war, or childhood
1eudaemonia
yes
SlyMrFox
At least they got some gin.
TheFishFace
Far more similar than I expected. I found mortality rates of about 15% for both childhood (young childhood that is) and the war. That's for British soldiers and children.
Ifekinlovesauerkraut
childhood?
abrazenfool
Childhood, by a long shot
fightkostka6
surviving?
JustPissingAgainstTheWindYOLO
"you guys are getting paid?"
HapilyDamaged
dying slow
SnowIsCool615
They definitely had a higher chance of surviving childhood than one of the bloodiest wars in history. As long ago as it may have been; it’s not like this was the Dark Ages with the Plague or something with people dropping dead in the streets. All those kids have basic vaccinations.
MrSnuffleupagus172
https://www.archives.gov/exhibits/influenza-epidemic/
TacoPoweredHelicopter
Do you have any stats on that. In England at that time they were at epidemic levels of infant death from formula.
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DongleDingler
You're telling me that 80-85% of children didn't make it to adulthood after being born... I'm gonna NEED a source for that
strapontin
Your numbers don't work. There's a negative missing. Childhood deaths were high but not 80-85%.
SnowIsCool615
Exactly, “first year of life.” These lads likely made it to adulthood if they did not die in the war. Smallpox and other vaccines became mandatory in Britain in 1853. It wasn’t until the 1940’s that it became largely mandatory for most of the World.
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SnowIsCool615
Smallpox 1853 vax requirement sauce. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK545998/#:~:text=This%20chapter%20explores%20the%20slow,smallpox%20vaccination%20was%20fairly%20obvious.
magical8ball
Nengex
Fuck I noticed a discrepancy there. See that little brass disc on the buttstock of the middle dude's rifle? That was only on the pre-early war variant of the Lee Enfield. It would have the unit to which it belonged stamped on it for identification. Around 1916, they realized the Germans could use captured rifles to gain Intel on unit deployment and removed/stopped making them. The man on the left has a late war variant with no disc cutout. Uniformity would be enforced, so disc needs removed.
Nengex
That said, this may be colorized historical footage, in which case... idk. Could be middle of the Somme when everything was a shitshow and nobody gave a fuck anymore. Idk. I can't tell if this is from 1917 or They Shall Not Grow Old.
magical8ball
They shall not grow old. Here is the full scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9ATuPbYqEg&t=36s I notice quite a few of the rifles have those little discs.