Tbf that was right before tech went all in on investor appeasing pie in the sky AI hype. They know no one's using it. But they have to promise they're still pushing it for the potential of exponential growth that the capitalist ghouls demand.
The thing no one has talked about yet is the fact that NONE of this AI shit companies keep talking about is not, in any way, actual AI. Like, not even close. They're marketing terms for glorified data scrapers. Modern-day digital snake oil. As such, there absolutely needs to be a law defining actual AI and how companies can market such products claiming to have AI incorporated in them in any way, because everyone is just throwing that word around to describe something that isn't true. And 1/
quite frankly, dangerous. And honestly, every company claiming to have anything to do with AI should be sued into the ground for making such claims on any level. It's fraudulent in every way possible and anyone with an IQ of a rock knows that the government and companies aren't doing it to "better mankind" they're doing it for extremely nefarious reasons. It's one huge lie, and everyone has taken the bait. Just like they wanted.
If only there was an analogy with a Microsoft software product from the past, where people just wanted to vomit their insides if they accidentaly clicked on its icon, a browser of sorts or a search engine…
I use it often at work, it can be quite useful to find info and more importantly the source of that info. We have Outlook, sharepoint, teams, confluence, jira... so it can find info from all of that. It's quite annoying to have to turn OFF the web search every single time I use it. Microsoft knows this. It's why they are pushing their worse cloudified apps/platforms on businesses. However, it will never be on my PC. I've been running Linux since 1998.
No, it is. It can provide summaries based on those things it finds, and the most important thing is that it gives you a link to the reference document so you can go read it. It can also find Teams meetings/chats where things were discussed. You can also upload several documents and have it do summaries, etc. That info is only retained for about 20 minutes. If you let it sit longer, it loses the context. You can also only find information that you have access to.
As far as I can tell A.I. is good for helping academic cheaters go from 30 min to combine a few papers themselves instead of doing the work to 10 minutes of prompts and trying to fool anti-A.I. tools instead of doing the work themselves. I haven't heard of another legitimate use for it, since all the "A.I." programs seem to hallucinate randomly.
It's like the windows key they put on most keyboards. It's there, but no one knows what it does and hitting it can cause unwanted behavior. People avoid it on purpose. Modern day clippy..
My employer carpet-bomb "granted" every employee the paid version of copilot license. I don't even want the thing on my work computer but they somehow expect me to use it? Every time I tried, I only wasted time and had to what I asked it to do by hand anyway!!!
I want to correct you with "dual booting," but considering how Microsoft/Windows fights tooth and nail to take over boot loaders "duel" is, sadly, the more correct choice. :-(
I would go Linux only, but I've got a few programs that are Windows only, and do not function under WINE, and they don't have alternatives that I would be able to switch to.
If you have enough memory, install a VM with windows on it and have it boot in the background minimized. Then install winapps, and watch it magically provide applications installed in windows rightnin your linux desktop.
It’s not ideal, because windows s still there lurking in the background, but your apps are running natively on windows. There’s just no windows to be seen anywhere.
I use it for several apps as well. And the VM basically sleeps until needed, so not much overhead.
My understanding is, it's a known problem what win11 is actively hostile to any boot loader that isn't its own, so it'll gleefully fuck up your ability to dual boot. Not sure if that was ever remedied by anyone.
I stopped learning Mac at age 15 in 1999. Ive been Win-exclusive ever since, BUT ms, win11 forcing to update, win 10 end-of-life, plus copilot everywhere made me kill windows on my laptop and switch to Linux Mint. Im a dumb user, think genXer, maybe boomer, and i’m surviving. Not everything, but manageable with a backup desktop with cracked win10 for those programs i cant get or learn on linux yet. Strongly suggest it
I've heard that too. Looking at the reddit all of the talk I can find on it is years old. Doesn't mean it's not a concern, but I don't think it's a frequent thing.
It also sounds like it was only a hassle. And the people I can find didn't seem to loose any data.
That's exactly what I recommend when people ask me, imo its the best one right now for people looking for a solid general-purpose distro. (Used to be Ubuntu, but they ruined that with snaps)
Yeah, I tried a few when I was in software development, but found one I liked and stuck with it for awhile. Next computer I'm going back. But I always find the discussions on what distrio to use entertaining.
Don't worry. The next windows will completely prevent you from actually disabling it permanently and it will just backdoor itself into what you are doing. It's what Microsoft did with Edge and Cortana.
It was the only thing they hadn't held down and forced unwanted ai bullshit into and I think the plan was pretty clear when they put an ai exec in charge of their gaming division
No one will be using MS pretty soon to thank god. Reminder every school and workplace in the country relies on a corporation beholden to Isreal and their genocidal “Jews are the master race” goals.
I was using it and enjoying it. But at one point it became overtly obvious that they lobotomized it.
I would say,
What do you think about the wealth gap?
Copilot: “haha wow, that’s a really insightful thought. There are a lot of various options about the “wealth gap” I’m not here to pick sides. Feel free to tell me some more of your thoughts”
Fk you copilot. If I wanted a non-answer I would have called customer service.
I’ve tried a few different AI’s just as a test. Mostly questions about fixing things. They are just wrong like 99% of the time. I’ll stick to old guys on YouTube.
I messed with the ai they attached to YouTube for a while. I wound up arguing with it because it gave directly conflicting information with the video. Worthless garbage.
Already irritated with continuous updates that slow connections, plus all that fantastic older software that doesn't run now. I would pay a subscription, but I expect a much better product, windows 11 is shit.
Welcome to the fold! I ditched it years ago. It can be bumpy to start but things get easier every day. Both from the community improvements and from you familiarity going up!
At work we are traditionally 33% each Linux/Mac/Win. Our new policy this year is that if you ask for a Windows PC without a *very* valid reason, you get a Linux PC for a month. After a month you can ask for Windows if you still want it. It's changing very fast...
I slapped Nobara on. It came preloaded with the drivers I needed to play games. Installed a game and off I went. Most storefronts are supported. Xbox isn't but who cares? Minecraft still works and that was all I needed.
Well ....... Sort of, it's a bit stupid, poorly written, dumb law, that also "almost" can't be enforced. It has to do with age requirements for operating systems. Whis Linux doesn't do making it '"illegal" give me a minute to to find an article....
"Portal for Teams" is available in flatpak simple click install. Its an unofficial client but it works. Flatpost or Bazaar are apps to use to search and install apps.
Teams doesn't work with Linux. There are workarounds but they are not reliable or convenient. office has the integrated browser suite similar to Google programs.
Linus tech tips on YouTube is currently testing Linux for 30 days. Check out the initial video on it.
It's a comprehensive pros and cons. I lean towards it being worth it but I have similar hurdles like no teams and no offline office
All windows apps will need one of two things to run in Linux: either a linux native version, or to be run through a translation layer known as Wine. I don't think Office has a linux native version, and I don't know how to make it run in Wine.
The good news, there are other programs that work very similarly to Office - I use LibreOffice, and there are a few others.
Teams? No idea. In any case, take stock of the programs you rely on and enjoy, and do a web search to see if there are linux /
Older versions of Office run fine in Wine :) Libreoffice also keeps getting better and better (but indeed I miss proper PowerPoint). One thing that might help in certain cases are the Office web versions that run in a browser. Limited, but work for some things
versions or alternatives available. For example, Notepad++ > I use Kate. For FastStone image viewer, I use XnView. For Foobar2000, I use Fooyin.
If you're savvy you can download Virtualbox, a free hypervisor, and try out various linux distros within Virtualbox without any commitment. Performance won't be as good as a real install so don't let that color your opinion much. I recommend starting with Mint or Zorin - both are solid and intended to be comfortable and familiar to windows users/
I switched to Mint about 5 months ago and have been happy with it. There's a learning curve but for the most part it's just, "oh, that's over here instead of over there". Extremely customizable, too.
netutoring
Right now, AI is just too artificial and not very intelligent.
SlavaUkrainisaysSteveBuscemi
I LITERALLY did this at least a few dozen times. I got sick of it so I used uBlock to remove the tabs permanently.
VeganFeministFlatEarther
Why the fuck is fuck censored in this post, it's LITERALLY the point of the post.
Phlyn
date is dec 10th
Nanoline
This article is from Dec 10 of last year.
Since then, Microsoft has instead gone whole-hog all in. So, unfortunately, very old news headline.
MakeItBackAlright
Tbf that was right before tech went all in on investor appeasing pie in the sky AI hype. They know no one's using it. But they have to promise they're still pushing it for the potential of exponential growth that the capitalist ghouls demand.
donorkort
It's also just an opinion piece.
INeedMoreGifMeMoreJustOneMore
Opinions are like buttholes, people get upset when I shove mine into their face.
YeastInfectedWhiskerBiscuit
The thing no one has talked about yet is the fact that NONE of this AI shit companies keep talking about is not, in any way, actual AI. Like, not even close. They're marketing terms for glorified data scrapers. Modern-day digital snake oil. As such, there absolutely needs to be a law defining actual AI and how companies can market such products claiming to have AI incorporated in them in any way, because everyone is just throwing that word around to describe something that isn't true. And 1/
YeastInfectedWhiskerBiscuit
quite frankly, dangerous. And honestly, every company claiming to have anything to do with AI should be sued into the ground for making such claims on any level. It's fraudulent in every way possible and anyone with an IQ of a rock knows that the government and companies aren't doing it to "better mankind" they're doing it for extremely nefarious reasons. It's one huge lie, and everyone has taken the bait. Just like they wanted.
NPaine
If only there was an analogy with a Microsoft software product from the past, where people just wanted to vomit their insides if they accidentaly clicked on its icon, a browser of sorts or a search engine…
linexnewt
I use it often at work, it can be quite useful to find info and more importantly the source of that info. We have Outlook, sharepoint, teams, confluence, jira... so it can find info from all of that. It's quite annoying to have to turn OFF the web search every single time I use it. Microsoft knows this. It's why they are pushing their worse cloudified apps/platforms on businesses. However, it will never be on my PC. I've been running Linux since 1998.
SOLARvsFACISM
So it sounds like its not doing any A.I. stuff, its just searching files.
linexnewt
No, it is. It can provide summaries based on those things it finds, and the most important thing is that it gives you a link to the reference document so you can go read it. It can also find Teams meetings/chats where things were discussed. You can also upload several documents and have it do summaries, etc. That info is only retained for about 20 minutes. If you let it sit longer, it loses the context. You can also only find information that you have access to.
SOLARvsFACISM
As far as I can tell A.I. is good for helping academic cheaters go from 30 min to combine a few papers themselves instead of doing the work to 10 minutes of prompts and trying to fool anti-A.I. tools instead of doing the work themselves. I haven't heard of another legitimate use for it, since all the "A.I." programs seem to hallucinate randomly.
roughingupthesuspect
It's like the windows key they put on most keyboards. It's there, but no one knows what it does and hitting it can cause unwanted behavior. People avoid it on purpose. Modern day clippy..
InnerBushman
My employer carpet-bomb "granted" every employee the paid version of copilot license. I don't even want the thing on my work computer but they somehow expect me to use it? Every time I tried, I only wasted time and had to what I asked it to do by hand anyway!!!
SkyHighInc
Haha, no. Google search Microsoft E7 license
shd3
I don't really think they're going to give up so easily.
Sully0811
Good now get rid of that idiot nadella and his fellow jack welch cultists.
VindictiveBathToaster
I ran a script to remove MicroSlop CoPilot from my computer. I didn’t ask for it. I don’t want it.
UnavengedAvo
I think most of the use is from corporate companies forcing people to use AI as part of their KPIs
copperdomebodhi
AI-loving tech bros say they aren't using Copilot because it sucks compared to other chatbots.
https://www.reddit.com/r/artificial/comments/1pmuboi/microsoft_scales_back_ai_goals_because_almost/
SirVG
Theniyaal
The irony that this post has been self-censored, thus complying in advance.
HeresYourSauce
I just switched to duel booting linux. Piss me off again and watch me switch entirely away
Marikhen
I want to correct you with "dual booting," but considering how Microsoft/Windows fights tooth and nail to take over boot loaders "duel" is, sadly, the more correct choice. :-(
SteveTheEgg
I just bought a new laptop for the first time since windows 7. I'm thinking about doing Linux after I found out the solitaire games are now ad based.
HeresYourSauce
100% worth the try. I'll link the resources for linux mint below. Look for KPatience for solitaire. Not an ad in sight.
https://linuxmint.com/download.php https://linux">load.php">https://linuxmint.com/download.php https://linuxmint-installation-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
modus0
I would go Linux only, but I've got a few programs that are Windows only, and do not function under WINE, and they don't have alternatives that I would be able to switch to.
ToenailClippingsJar
If you have enough memory, install a VM with windows on it and have it boot in the background minimized. Then install winapps, and watch it magically provide applications installed in windows rightnin your linux desktop.
It’s not ideal, because windows s still there lurking in the background, but your apps are running natively on windows. There’s just no windows to be seen anywhere.
I use it for several apps as well. And the VM basically sleeps until needed, so not much overhead.
emu314159127001
"I'm altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further."
Wolfshead009
My desktop is Winblows and my laptop is Linux. Does that count?
Imustntrunaway
My understanding is, it's a known problem what win11 is actively hostile to any boot loader that isn't its own, so it'll gleefully fuck up your ability to dual boot. Not sure if that was ever remedied by anyone.
southoffrance
There's discussion of that here, by an ex-Microsoft developer. Chilling stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C44iCr6czAo
InsanityMelon
I dual booted in 2016 and windows update (I forget the version) bricked my laptop.
I went back to windows only, but I loathe it and will never forgive MS for being so user hostile. One day I’ll pull the plug and go full Linux.
akelamishari
I stopped learning Mac at age 15 in 1999. Ive been Win-exclusive ever since, BUT ms, win11 forcing to update, win 10 end-of-life, plus copilot everywhere made me kill windows on my laptop and switch to Linux Mint. Im a dumb user, think genXer, maybe boomer, and i’m surviving. Not everything, but manageable with a backup desktop with cracked win10 for those programs i cant get or learn on linux yet. Strongly suggest it
southoffrance
Win10 will be my last Windows, I'm not upgrading to 11. When I have time and more disk space I plan to switch to Linux.
HeresYourSauce
I've heard that too. Looking at the reddit all of the talk I can find on it is years old. Doesn't mean it's not a concern, but I don't think it's a frequent thing.
It also sounds like it was only a hassle. And the people I can find didn't seem to loose any data.
electronicbovine
That's why they said they're duel booting, presumably
RARusk
At twenty paces? The smart money is on Linux.
animatronicChristmasChickens
I dual booted like 30 years ago, and within two years I was running only Linux. I'm curious what distro you're running
HeresYourSauce
Linux mint. Feels really nice so far.
Hackwitch
That's exactly what I recommend when people ask me, imo its the best one right now for people looking for a solid general-purpose distro. (Used to be Ubuntu, but they ruined that with snaps)
psugab
It's a trap! Don't answer!
HeresYourSauce
Lol. Yeah. The biggest thing that kept me from switching was picking a distro.
So so many answers to what should be a simple question. I kind of just picked a popular big distro.
psugab
Yeah, I tried a few when I was in software development, but found one I liked and stuck with it for awhile. Next computer I'm going back. But I always find the discussions on what distrio to use entertaining.
animatronicChristmasChickens
I understand the sentiment, but I know it's just preference for the most part
SoItGoesQuarantineEdition
Like hipster music. “It’s a small distro, you’ve probably never heard of it.”
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
"I hand weave my own from kernel up."
southoffrance
To switch off Copilot in Windows, so long as you are comfortable with regedit:

source: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/4080180/how-do-i-disable-copilot-and-all-other-ai-function
southoffrance
In case that doesn't completely stop Copilot, there is this also - remove Copilot from Windows startup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVKRWZfS2Y8
Plus you may want to remove it from MS Edge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEe2WvzLIOE
soulmata
Fuck off with the stupid-ass tik tok censorship. Oh no, a bad word, won't someone please thing of civil discourse?! Fuck outta here.
makesense
Don't worry. The next windows will completely prevent you from actually disabling it permanently and it will just backdoor itself into what you are doing. It's what Microsoft did with Edge and Cortana.
Fishy820
Just saw a headline today they are including it in XBox consoles now!
Sensiblyinteresting
Lmao insane
KaijuMcCitysmash
It was the only thing they hadn't held down and forced unwanted ai bullshit into and I think the plan was pretty clear when they put an ai exec in charge of their gaming division
Freeasabird2015
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InitHello
I switched to ubuntu several months ago specifically to avoid copilot.
bxwf5rfbvt2718
No one will be using MS pretty soon to thank god. Reminder every school and workplace in the country relies on a corporation beholden to Isreal and their genocidal “Jews are the master race” goals.
SuperfluousMeh
So there IS life at microsoft, how interesting. Someone isn't completely brain dead.
GratuaCuun
Not using it??? Bitch, I've got programs that have ACTIVELY DISABLED IT xD
Osiricus
Same, fuck that shit.
dontgetEpstined
Please share? lol
LifeWouldBeEasyIfIWereEasyButLifeIsHardAndSoAmI
I've never seen Copilot or Cortana pop up on my PC. I don't even know where to look for that and never used either
lezgetfukkinreal
I told it to fuck off and it hasn't bothered me since
throwaway12345432
It was the final push I needed to move to linux full time.
emu314159127001
"nukeitfromorbit.exe"
WalmartSecurityForce
I was using it and enjoying it. But at one point it became overtly obvious that they lobotomized it.
I would say,
What do you think about the wealth gap?
Copilot: “haha wow, that’s a really insightful thought. There are a lot of various options about the “wealth gap” I’m not here to pick sides. Feel free to tell me some more of your thoughts”
Fk you copilot. If I wanted a non-answer I would have called customer service.
boxbackknitties
Share-skeez?
GratuaCuun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB7q7Gl_iWI <- this walks you through the process quite nicely
schmittyboss
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imgurisfulloftwats
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azgrak1
I’ve tried a few different AI’s just as a test. Mostly questions about fixing things. They are just wrong like 99% of the time. I’ll stick to old guys on YouTube.
BarryTheCyborg
Same, it still can't read my coworkers shitty handwriting for data entry, so my job is safe.
HairyChairstepper
I messed with the ai they attached to YouTube for a while. I wound up arguing with it because it gave directly conflicting information with the video. Worthless garbage.
OneMoreLime
But fuck if it isn't extremely confidently wrong.
Kiares
The real goal is to poison all their models.
GratuaCuun
Given all the shit they keep stealing from social media and from each others AIs - they're doing that just fine on their own xD
LuminousQuasar
I add as much poisoned data as I can in my off time. They brought it upon themselves. I'm just enjoying helping it along. 😊
Kiares
Yeah but they still have the original OpenAI model to suckle on
Apeofdeath
My next computer will have Linux
Noahbalboa82
Could do Linux or Mac. Somehow Apple is the affordable option today. Feels like a twilight zone. But yeah, Linux is great too
DidItForScience
Your current computer could have Linux today!
lovingspace
Best choice I ever made, IT wise.
relsky
I'm waiting for steamOS to hit its stride, and then I won't look back.
cuddlydingo
I switched to Ubuntu after 20+ years of Windows. Best move ever.
Omnimorph2112
Think everyone's will if Microsoft plan to have their next windows as a subscription model
Apeofdeath
Already irritated with continuous updates that slow connections, plus all that fantastic older software that doesn't run now. I would pay a subscription, but I expect a much better product, windows 11 is shit.
fritogotlayed
Welcome to the fold! I ditched it years ago. It can be bumpy to start but things get easier every day. Both from the community improvements and from you familiarity going up!
jesuisgur
At work we are traditionally 33% each Linux/Mac/Win. Our new policy this year is that if you ask for a Windows PC without a *very* valid reason, you get a Linux PC for a month. After a month you can ask for Windows if you still want it. It's changing very fast...
TK421isAFK
Here's the thing: your current computer is probably more than adequate, and will run Linux more efficiently than it does under Windows.
errantcompass
Do it now you can only gain
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
I slapped Nobara on. It came preloaded with the drivers I needed to play games. Installed a game and off I went. Most storefronts are supported. Xbox isn't but who cares? Minecraft still works and that was all I needed.
Canigetbannedagain2
Unless you live in California... But it's still a bit early on that law and new rules. But we'll see what happens.
Skawomplious
Wait what? California is going to have a law against Linux?
Canigetbannedagain2
Well ....... Sort of, it's a bit stupid, poorly written, dumb law, that also "almost" can't be enforced. It has to do with age requirements for operating systems. Whis Linux doesn't do making it '"illegal" give me a minute to to find an article....
Canigetbannedagain2
Oops "which".. #1) https://www.techradar.com/computing/software/californias-age-verification-law-is-proving-controversial-heres-what-you-need-to-know-and-why-some-linux-distros-are-in-the-firing-line
Canigetbannedagain2
#2) OS providers must maintain a "reasonably consistent real-time application programming interface".....https://www.tomshardware.com/software/operating-systems/california-introduces-age-verification-law
dpflug
Hit me up in a DM and I'll help
Anfalicious
What distro should I recommend to a student who is setting up a 2010 era Dell laptop? He's a relative beginner with computers but keen
beauchette
From my experience Ubuntu is really end user friendly.
Mountons
Can you maybe tell me if I switch to Linux will Microslop Word still work? What about teams? Thanks!
billstranger
OpenOffice.
Anfalicious
Teams doesn't work with Windows :P
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
"Portal for Teams" is available in flatpak simple click install. Its an unofficial client but it works. Flatpost or Bazaar are apps to use to search and install apps.
dpflug
I used Teams via https://teams.microsoft.com for years. I mostly use Jitsi Meet these days, but you can use Teams on the web.
The same can be done with Word, but some features are missing. OnlyOffice and LibreOffice both open Office files pretty consistently.
JustUsLeagueUnlimited
Teams doesn't work with Linux. There are workarounds but they are not reliable or convenient. office has the integrated browser suite similar to Google programs.
Linus tech tips on YouTube is currently testing Linux for 30 days. Check out the initial video on it.
It's a comprehensive pros and cons. I lean towards it being worth it but I have similar hurdles like no teams and no offline office
TomBrokaw
All windows apps will need one of two things to run in Linux: either a linux native version, or to be run through a translation layer known as Wine. I don't think Office has a linux native version, and I don't know how to make it run in Wine.
The good news, there are other programs that work very similarly to Office - I use LibreOffice, and there are a few others.
Teams? No idea. In any case, take stock of the programs you rely on and enjoy, and do a web search to see if there are linux /
SwedishGuyYesIDoHaveLongBlondHairWhy
Older versions of Office run fine in Wine :)
Libreoffice also keeps getting better and better (but indeed I miss proper PowerPoint). One thing that might help in certain cases are the Office web versions that run in a browser. Limited, but work for some things
TomBrokaw
versions or alternatives available. For example, Notepad++ > I use Kate. For FastStone image viewer, I use XnView. For Foobar2000, I use Fooyin.
If you're savvy you can download Virtualbox, a free hypervisor, and try out various linux distros within Virtualbox without any commitment. Performance won't be as good as a real install so don't let that color your opinion much. I recommend starting with Mint or Zorin - both are solid and intended to be comfortable and familiar to windows users/
TomBrokaw
I switched to Mint about 5 months ago and have been happy with it. There's a learning curve but for the most part it's just, "oh, that's over here instead of over there". Extremely customizable, too.