Ultimately, God set us up for failure. So men gain experience from sinners. Can you imagine how much worse God would be if he didn’t have anyone to burn?
I think a significant factor that is deeply imbedded in human subconscious that we don't even notice, is that women always know that their kids are theirs, and men don't. This insecurity explains some of our past cultural practices.
This is cultural not necessarily evolutionary. Some aspects of parenthood are also evolutionary. But a lot are cultural. Like the ability to father a ton of kids in year vs a mother can only do one. That’s evolution. Lots goes into that too. Like raising that one. Interesting to see science explanation. We are animals after all.
When did syphilis show up in Europe? Because "purity culture" is 𝘰𝘭𝘥. Obviously it has changed and been more rigidly codified throughout history, but it is an ancient stain on our civilization.
I mostly consider Purity culture to boil down to “We men dont want our wives knowing what good sex is, so they don’t demand anything beyond our lazy pleasure. Or hopefully kept too “submissive” to catch on that we’d rather be shagging each other on “Godly Men Retreats”.
Before we started dating a former girlfriend hit me with, "Why is it a good thing if a man sleeps with a bunch of women, but a bad thing of a woman sleeps with a bunch of men. The only reply I could come up with was,"there is nothing good about anything you just said."
The unfortunate answer is that in Western cultural context, men "earn" sex with women, they have to be "good enough" or "worthy". This means that is guy who slept with a bunch of women is, in the cultural context, really cool, useful, and worthy of love. However, it also implies that women that are harder to sleep with are more valuable "prizes" just because of how hard they are to screw, and women that are easy to sleep with are participation trophies. All of this is, for the record, wrong.
Both takes are unfathomably stupid. You do you. Let other people do what's good for them. If you're not stupid by caring about what other people do, everyone wins. So the only one who lose are those not following my advice, stupid people that want to control others. And they want to control others for literally no gain for themselves? How fucking stupid is that?
No. But philosophically speaking, if you take a stance you want to happen, someone, anyone, should benefit. Even if it's a selfish gain there's a gain so you might see why one would want to do it even if it's JUST for selfish reasons. But in this scenario, the most malicious and self centered logical argument of "but I want you to do it because it's good for me" isn't even valid. The assertion is just a display at the ignorance of the speaker.
I looked up this vile twitter profile, and it's even worse than this post implies. It's basic premise is that male supremacy is the natural order, and that the only way woman can have peace or fulfillment, is to become completely submissive at all times. It may be a bot...it could just be a super fucked up incel. There is 0% chance it is actually a woman.
Nah, there are, sadly, actual women who spout that nonsense. "The Transformed Wife" is the worst, but there are other female "Christian influencers" too and some of them are such extreme pick-me girls that they spread the worst patriarchal bullshit.
I dunno.. sadly, and confusingly, internalized sexism is a thing just like internalized racism is. With some people being so brainwashed they basically live to try finding acceptance and praise from "their betters" by conforming to those expectations. Belief in that ideology then becomes a coping mechanism to justify a behavior driven by need for affirmation from the people in their environment.
With lesser women, of course. That's how some conservative Turkish immigrant familes in Europe handle it. The sons can enjoy their youth fucking the kufar whores, but eventually they're supposed to marry a chaste muslim girl. The daughters can stay pure or risk being punished, ostracised, or even murdered in the name of family honor.
this...conservatives are all over this, regardless of religious or ethnic background...all those red-hat idiots in the US go to strip clubs or hooters and have sex parties with hookers and watch porn etc...but eventually they want to marry a girl with a "low body count" (puke)...and some other guys can marry the "dirty" women...its a class system, always has been...
Unfortunately this is how it happened in a LOT of societies historically. Men gained "experience" with enslaved women, or lower class women who didn't feel they could say no, or women who turned to sex work in a society where they had few other options
Wrong. Women need experience as well. Who the fuck wants teeth grinding up and down the schlong like fuckin corn on the cob? Go outside. Get laid, as much as possible. It's great.
Thus is why you pop downstairs in the break between rounds to get some some cold drinks, gotta keep her hydrated. Gotta refill that squirtgun every so often
Howlingowl
Ultimately, God set us up for failure. So men gain experience from sinners. Can you imagine how much worse God would be if he didn’t have anyone to burn?
twerps
Eachother
drcookieninja
I mean the Greeks have done it since forever.
HastyPuddingPops
Perfect answer lol
mclamby
If you won’t bang your friends, are they even your friends?
WhatUpDog3000
Stepsisters, according to my research.
mondeca
Sucks for me, with my parents' lasting marriage
andsy
No one said it had to be _your_ step sister
TheChunguskaEvent
MissDeeMeanor
"And here's to you, Mrs Robinson...."
CanIGetSomeExtraSalt
Are you looking for volunteers? just close your eyes and imagine its woman parts @butterda
MutatedHorse
Patriarchal girl is a man I'm sure.
Zahnradfee
Not necessarily. :( "The Transformed Wife" exists too.
MutatedHorse
This is why I never understood the whole virgin thing. I'd take a girl with experience over a girl who is bending and smashing my dick.
SpartaWolf117
purity culture is just the continuation of the old tradition where young women were nothing but commodities to be traded and owned
Comet260
Purity culture benefits no one but abusers.
monkeydwolfwood
I thought it had to do with paternity
BatmanAndCradleRobin
I think a significant factor that is deeply imbedded in human subconscious that we don't even notice, is that women always know that their kids are theirs, and men don't. This insecurity explains some of our past cultural practices.
alrightalrightalrightpartyatthemoontower
This is cultural not necessarily evolutionary. Some aspects of parenthood are also evolutionary. But a lot are cultural. Like the ability to father a ton of kids in year vs a mother can only do one. That’s evolution. Lots goes into that too. Like raising that one. Interesting to see science explanation. We are animals after all.
ropetopus
There’s some strong evidence that’s not innate. Plenty of cultures don’t really care who a kids’ parents are at all.
It seems more likely that insecurity derives from a culture that treats women and children as property and status items than the other way around.
HypoMix
I wonder if it came about/increased with the introduction of syphilis to Europe.
Aurentis
When did syphilis show up in Europe? Because "purity culture" is 𝘰𝘭𝘥. Obviously it has changed and been more rigidly codified throughout history, but it is an ancient stain on our civilization.
HypoMix
Yes, but I can see it supercharging it after 1494, much like how Islam introduced pork restrictions due to parasites.
Aurentis
When did Islam show up in the world? Because "pork restriction" is 𝘰𝘭𝘥. It is an ancient feature of Abrahamic monotheism.
tachyx
Slavery, just say slavery
dualplains
Slavery it is, sir!
imnotinthewitnessprotectionprogram
Other priests, obvi
isthisjunkmail
MILFs?
iBoulderDash
Guys, is it gay to gain experience?
UndulatingTerrain
100% chance that the user patriarchal_girl is a man.
Zootsoot
I mostly consider Purity culture to boil down to “We men dont want our wives knowing what good sex is, so they don’t demand anything beyond our lazy pleasure. Or hopefully kept too “submissive” to catch on that we’d rather be shagging each other on “Godly Men Retreats”.
EdelwoodHikes
What happens between bros, stays between bros.
redbear1999
The Middle East special!
DarthWaiterSE
It's not a blowjob, it's a BRO-job.
RevolutionOnHerLips
choo choo!
Default87
fellas, is it gay to help a bro get some experience?
90sLego
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1OHFmbmg5bXp3ZnMxNGl1ZHk0M3BrYnJjamJ2Y2E5d20zd2V2cnJ2YyZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/LKqDgLlK6SuIM/200w.webp
OnyxTurret
Unless you're Yeez
adverselypossessed
Bros before hoes, means you have sex with a bro before a hoe. Duh /s
Comet260
No bromo, bro.
EdelwoodHikes
I failed Latin twice (ages ago), so that's gibberish, sorry.
Comet260
Learn Romulan instead.
EdelwoodHikes
More like... Bromulan, amirite?
isthisjunkmail
Cougars?
Onebigcanuck
This comment is not meant to disparage sex work in any way.
Rufferstuff
keyblader1985
Why do I feel *positive* that this is Wario?
DarthWaiterSE
Lavender is more of a purple hue, so to my layman's eyes it leans more Waluigi.
Rufferstuff
rmellis1112
Before we started dating a former girlfriend hit me with, "Why is it a good thing if a man sleeps with a bunch of women, but a bad thing of a woman sleeps with a bunch of men. The only reply I could come up with was,"there is nothing good about anything you just said."
FacelessAce
The unfortunate answer is that in Western cultural context, men "earn" sex with women, they have to be "good enough" or "worthy". This means that is guy who slept with a bunch of women is, in the cultural context, really cool, useful, and worthy of love. However, it also implies that women that are harder to sleep with are more valuable "prizes" just because of how hard they are to screw, and women that are easy to sleep with are participation trophies. All of this is, for the record, wrong.
rmellis1112
And this is why these days I just sit on my couch and drink beer or cheap wine and leave all that nonsense to the kids.
IHateItH3r3
madanna-whore complex
AtsaMattaForMe
FacelessAce
SHUT UP! TED!
manhands
Lot of good that “experience” does, too. I hear the average straight guy is embarrassingly bad in bed.
Psionickitten
Both takes are unfathomably stupid. You do you. Let other people do what's good for them. If you're not stupid by caring about what other people do, everyone wins. So the only one who lose are those not following my advice, stupid people that want to control others. And they want to control others for literally no gain for themselves? How fucking stupid is that?
DoseOfScience
You prefer people that want to control others for personal gain?
Psionickitten
No. But philosophically speaking, if you take a stance you want to happen, someone, anyone, should benefit. Even if it's a selfish gain there's a gain so you might see why one would want to do it even if it's JUST for selfish reasons. But in this scenario, the most malicious and self centered logical argument of "but I want you to do it because it's good for me" isn't even valid. The assertion is just a display at the ignorance of the speaker.
TheTaoofRob
Agreed 💯
ttm2
that's the only thing that makes them feel good about themselves
goodguyC
I looked up this vile twitter profile, and it's even worse than this post implies. It's basic premise is that male supremacy is the natural order, and that the only way woman can have peace or fulfillment, is to become completely submissive at all times. It may be a bot...it could just be a super fucked up incel. There is 0% chance it is actually a woman.
Zahnradfee
Nah, there are, sadly, actual women who spout that nonsense. "The Transformed Wife" is the worst, but there are other female "Christian influencers" too and some of them are such extreme pick-me girls that they spread the worst patriarchal bullshit.
Battle4ngel
I dunno.. sadly, and confusingly, internalized sexism is a thing just like internalized racism is. With some people being so brainwashed they basically live to try finding acceptance and praise from "their betters" by conforming to those expectations. Belief in that ideology then becomes a coping mechanism to justify a behavior driven by need for affirmation from the people in their environment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internalized_oppression
Of course, it could also just be as you said.
TheTaoofRob
Ugh
TheseAreNotTheVotesYouAreLookingFor
Sheep.
FacelessAce
If you're going to have sex with an animal, have it with one that can actually fight back and win: Wolves!
TheWombatStrikesAgain
With lesser women, of course. That's how some conservative Turkish immigrant familes in Europe handle it. The sons can enjoy their youth fucking the kufar whores, but eventually they're supposed to marry a chaste muslim girl. The daughters can stay pure or risk being punished, ostracised, or even murdered in the name of family honor.
RecurringNightmare
this...conservatives are all over this, regardless of religious or ethnic background...all those red-hat idiots in the US go to strip clubs or hooters and have sex parties with hookers and watch porn etc...but eventually they want to marry a girl with a "low body count" (puke)...and some other guys can marry the "dirty" women...its a class system, always has been...
WarKittyKat
Unfortunately this is how it happened in a LOT of societies historically. Men gained "experience" with enslaved women, or lower class women who didn't feel they could say no, or women who turned to sex work in a society where they had few other options
TofuGolem
Men who want virgin women are terrified of being compared sexually to other men.
I presume because they are all sexually deficient in some way.
obarey
No, it's worse. They see women as rubber toy. When someone else played with it, it's now soiled.
TofuGolem
Oh, of course, but the reason they don't want "soiled" women is because they know they are sexually deficient.
AnonOmis1000
$100 days patriarchal_girl isn't actually a girl.
SnowpersonHitInTheFaceWithALackOfCreativity
What is actually a girl?
FacelessAce
The Goddess Athena. She's surprisingly light, I hear.
obarey
I mean it's obviously a sarcastic account. Right. Right?
TheMistressIrinaSpalko
This.
TexMexHex
Wrong. Women need experience as well. Who the fuck wants teeth grinding up and down the schlong like fuckin corn on the cob? Go outside. Get laid, as much as possible. It's great.
RestlessVagabond
I'm getting mixed signals. According to Three 6 Mafia, having one slob on your nob like corn on the cob is a good thing.
TexMexHex
Slob yes, not shuck
ttm2
> Get laid, as much as possible. It's great.
easy to say!
"how to speak Chinese?" "easy, just speak the words!"
NickRivieraMD
I'm gonna make it so dry for you, baby
Comet260
I avoid all sex and intimacy by having a dick that's the size of a grain of rice.
ImGonnaMissThisPlace
Lesbians and pre-op trans men have great sex too. Dick size ain't everything friend!
seenunseen
Teeth are bad, but whay's worse is when you please your girl so mich jer mouth dries out and then she goes down on you..sandpaper
DimwitF
https://youtu.be/Zv6oay0F1tc?si=NEk7r6THD9atzO9y
grandfalloon
I'm ordering some Flintt's Mints for this very reason.
Tengenstein
Thus is why you pop downstairs in the break between rounds to get some some cold drinks, gotta keep her hydrated. Gotta refill that squirtgun every so often
omgzwtfs
It's possible the girls you've been with have to get stoned first
seenunseen
We have that in common
omgzwtfs
Joke's on you, my girlfriend doesn't touch weed. She's an alcoholic
beez428