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As ugly as this Cybertruck is, there's a lot of neat features I'd like to see offered on more large pickups. It's already got almost 150,000 orders. I'm interested to see how it does overall sales wise, how effective it's features end up being in the end product, and how it develops in the next few years.
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Saifury
How well does it handle crashes since it doesn't crumple?
TheManInTheWall
Not relying on fuel is nice but I imagine part replacement is a pain in the ass, especially considering Teslas current rep in that regard
spharv21
Someone needs to learn what the word “ablative” means. It’s not something that applies to all armor.
scottEkarate
TheManInTheWall
When your paying the price of the vehicle, you can probably afford a proffessional custom paintjib
AgamemnonsMemes
People say its ugly, i think its blade runner chique and i want it.
JHawke
Those are separate things though. i think it's fugly but that is hardly something I look for in a car anyways. Course I can't pay one but we
CaptainMisanthropy
Definitely. I love it.
cactuskid1956
Ugly as Fuck
boxermotorsarecool
"Armored glass"
nananashisan
Better hope the electronics don't fail and that you can pop out door handle from outside.
TrashPacker
They already have a solution for that in all Tesla vehicles that enable the door to open in emergency situations
monkeyjojo629
That truck looks like my game doesn't wanna load right.
tihsho3765
Or the graphics are set to ultra low. Lol
jj86
I'm waiting for the 16 bit version to come out.
coronalmassejection
Ransbear
That gave me a laugh.
Xeddius
The sledgehammer pre-damaged the window and the back window wasn't armor glass. Hindsight is 2020 or 2019 in this case. I still want it.
Warutteri
Also it's impact resistant, the main thing was that the big ass ball bearing didn't go through the window (in either window) there's no 1/
Warutteri
such thing as impact proof glass, impact resistant is the best we can do... You can then layer those to get better and better protection 2/2
Warutteri
PS. I want one too! When we get ours lets go have a demolition derby with them? That would probably be fun and actually leave the cars in 1/
Warutteri
drivable condition thanks to how well built and heavy duty they are ? 2/2
Gonz15
So Are the side mirrors an extra fee?
neurog866
Camera’s no need for drag of mirrors.
Gonz15
Is that street legal?
fredthebadger
No. You need one on the driver's side at minimum in California, probably in the rest of the US too.
chefsoda
"5x the torque of an Abrams?" Tesla = 1k lb/ft, the Abrams = 2.75K lb/ft. Seems that's off by about 1500%
Bystandr
Context is everything- the 2.75K on the Abrams is max torque at running RPM. At 5 RPM the Tesla probably has it beat.
Bystandr
Which makes a valid point that the Teslas power being available throughout the RPM band makes for smooth power and thus a bit more control.
chefsoda
No doubt, but the overall power claim is false, even if the driveability is better.
billyrayvalentine
It does kind of resemble a Warthog from Halo.
dohcohv
>priced below large conventional trucks. The base truck costs the same as a crew cab F-350, the trip motor one is 20k more than a diesel
dohcohv
Tri-motor
captainsmitty
I just want to see an air compressor put in more trucks with adj. suspension. Would be DOPE
RedIronCrown
Ram already offers this.
captainsmitty
I did say more trucks
RedIronCrown
Sorry, read it as you saying this was a new feature introduced by Tesla.
0kthanksBye
You can run a welder off of it too.
Talligan
Have to admit I don't like this trend of ultra aggressive trucks and planning for some apocalyptic future.
AnonOmis1000
...I'm dubious that an electric driven truck has 5x the torque of an MTB
Treblaine
Torque is cheap for electric. The tricky part is batteries.
WhatIsTheMatrix
Might be some journalist who cannot math. Truck has x0.5 the torque of an M1 Abrams: 1,356 Nm for the pickup, vs 2,750Nm for the tank.
malibu35072
there is a reason modern trains have a diesel power electric motors rather than run diesel directly: FAR more torque at lower speeds.
DunkinDugnutts
There is a misconception that electric cars are weaker then gas ones, which is completly false. In fact the oposite. Electric cars have all
DunkinDugnutts
Their power accessable at any moment, whereas gas cars dont. Not to mention electric motors can be incredibly powerful these days.
DunkinDugnutts
Having driven an electric car before, I dont doubt this at all.
AnonOmis1000
Interesting. My bad.
TheScotchKraut
The fuck's a boogaloo
b1ohazard777
Civil war
LarvaLamp
Breakin' 2: Electric
chilllad
A lot of preppers/2a people call a possible future US civil war/conflict "the [coming] boogaloo"
MayMyEnemiesLiveLong
It's old, old military slang for a Cannoneer, aka Gun Bunny. Their MoS is 13B. They're also called Red Legs.
anthropogenicentropy
"Headlight fluid" with more words.
FaceDeMarde
My American radar just blew up all over this comment
VernonLamb
Vegonbrei
I VERY HIGHLY doubt it has 19, 750lb-ft of torque.
skyblade22
People just think it's ugly because it's different, in 10 years it's gonna be normal
MimicAbyss
I think this truck would sell better if the sides above the bed were optional. Can't load it from the side
RedAppleSoda
Is that a common feature in recreational trucks?
MimicAbyss
Normally there isn't big angular sides blocking the bed of the truck
dan10026
Unless it’s a Chevy avalanche, in which case it’s almost not a truck
PoIymorphic
Not a huge fan of the look, but it’s a massive step in the right direction as far as utility. It’s the future
Osicat
To big, to heavy, cant be future, I mean not every car ovner can drive big cars, resourses wont last for that
Talligan
Utility? How many bullets are going to get shot at you?
PoIymorphic
Utility as far as towing power, drive range. Eliminating the cost of gas and diesel while blowing the power of standard trucks is good.
Trisar
In 'Murica, we eat bullets for breakfast.
NomDeImguerre
I don't mind the design, but knowing Musk, I'm not surprised he'd laying the foundations for a citizen uprising. Already got the flamethrows
IconicM
No, no... Those are specifically Not a Flamethrowers ;)
NomDeImguerre
Couldn't even type the whole word, you wanted to add 2 more?
thecauseman
Have you stopped to look at the demographic of Tesla owners? That crowd dies in the first wave of any societal breakdown. Yeah, I said it
TheManInTheWall
The people Musk sells most of his stuff to, are the people who would go on a 2 year holiday in the bahamas during a citizens uprising
davebeastly
Can only be serviced and repaired by the manufactu.... Ahh crap.
RanchoCucamonga
This isn't going to stop people from modding the fuck out of these things
DaneBrass
But you're not changing the oil every 5k miles. EV's only need brakes, tires, & cabin filters; software updates can be done from home.
an0therthr0waway
motor oil is only one thing - there are still other mechanical mechanisms that need lubrication...
davebeastly
I thought we were talking post apocalyptic setting? Good luck with those software updates and spare parts.
PooPculture
Eventually everything on any auto electric or not will break down and need repair.
an0therthr0waway
This ensures many of us will never buy. Tesla is very opposed to "right to repair".
davebeastly
*2040 in the cyber dustbowl future* Musky: "WHO RULE BATTERYTOWN?" Crowd of Cyber Wastelanders "MUSKYBLASTER! MUSKYBLASTER!"
ascendeddanieljackson
Theyre like the apple of cars
Nuttsy
Except Electronics Satan wouldn't be caught dead with Tesla's QA.
IamNotAshamed
Apples QA isn't exactly better, look at their butterfly keyboard or vesa mounts.
Nuttsy
I'd say Tesla's is more along the lines of having regular scissor-switches that fail too often. At least with the butterfly comparison.
Thecynicalspud
Eh. I think Mercedes and Porsche are the same. Non-descript trucks, and car covered so that people don't think it's a merc. or porsche.
Userlivewire
I’m on board with right to repair as an ideology but rarely does right to repair lead to the most efficient product.
NineByNine
(and workers rights. and human rights in general)
Silas007
Almost like it is a corporation that only exists to maximize profits.
NineByNine
Gee you're right! Really makes you think!
Nuttsy
Which is quite amazing, because, IIRC, it hasn't been profitable for more than a year of its life, so far.
theHitchenator
Wait, people find it ugly? I always thought it was kinda good looking.
guitarsandstoke
“Always”
theHitchenator
A turn of phrase.
GhostGoop
It looks like the precursor to the futuristic car designs sci-fi has had for years. I love the potential change it might bring.
Bobinatortron
I am on your side with this. The first thing I thought when I saw it was "That car looks awesome", before knowing anything about it.
SeismicCoin
the only thing i dont like about it is the naked expanse of nothing on the front, not pictured here, but thats a very minor gripe.
SomeDetroitGuy
Have you not been on the Internet in the last week?
CreamOfMeat
I can’t get over the hexagonal wheel wells.
Grizy
I think it looks incredible.
ComradeZoidberg
I can’t decide if I like it or not.
TheGreatWizpoo
I thought it looked cool but good thing i never told anyone that cause all my friends started talking about it and laughing at the design..
Colopty
Dare to have opinions that are controversial within your group of friends.
DocWino
I love ant want!
keyserv
I'd say it's rather uninteresting, but not ugly.
itxtalone
iv never wanted a truck. until i saw this beautiful baby
GamesAndPrettyDames
I can understand why people find it ugly but I really like how different it looks. It looks super cool to me.
ICantThinkOfAU
This has been my opinion. I get what people are saying that it looks “weird” and all that, but I love it, weird doesn’t mean bad in art, 1/2
ICantThinkOfAU
why is this different? Doesn’t need to look like a truck. No big engine or plumbing. They can make more extremmse aesthetic choices 2/2
Silas007
I guess it wouldve generated a lot less internet attention if it looked more appealing
TheGhostofCarrieFisher
It's ugly but it's utility should overcome objections.
kittybuttwiggle
It's got a good foundation if you squint, just could use some body lines and a design for the front/rear lights. Pointy roof kills it for me
redbacardi
Yeah, IMO it's fugly. It makes the Aztec look good.
EdwardStarsmith
No. Nothing will ever make the Aztec look good.
flarflarf
it is honestly on par with the Aztec. It's ungainly and awkward and the air suspension makes it look like it's pants are falling down.
kazamatzuri
I love how it looks. Maybe it’s just the old generations that want to cling to century old looks...
funlovinkrimenal
It's a big nope
Catz8herface
I don't hate it. Glad I'm not alone.
saganworshipper
The Rivian is super ugly.
Cranbananarama
It's growing on me. I'd definitely consider getting one if I could afford it.
VisoGuy
Always..its been revealed 5 minutse ago
theHitchenator
It's a turn of phrase, bud. 5 minutes... it's been revealed for days.
Hcrld
I think it's the bare metal color that makes it look ugly. I saw an ahegao skin and the Dixie Cup pattern and both look better than bare tbh
tauceti
I personally love the look, haters gonna hate
Kakotheres
Its growing on me
NeoBaggins
It’s continually fluctuating for me. Kind of settling on liking it. Having controversial looks is a boon for Tesla, I think. 1/
TheManInTheWall
Controversy is what keeps Musk and most of his projects afloat. As much as I hate him, he is very good at PR exploitation
NeoBaggins
Everyone is talking about it. If they just made a model x with a bed or something that looked like a Chevy, it’d be largely ignored.
JapsMcGee
True. Like P.T. Barnum said, there's no such thing as bad publicity.
fadecomic
Whoa, I mean he is married, so someone found him attractive.
CirB
I'm pretty neutral about it. That said, I'd love to hear more about the reasoning for these. For example, if the geometries make it (1)
Nakahana
CirB
Engineering studies mostly.
CirB
sturdier, stiffer, more aerodynamic, create more room inside, give better visibility from windows etc.? If the shape improves (2)
CirB
functionality, then my opinion will likely quickly turn to the positive side. (3/3)
AgamemnonsMemes
lamborghini have done the whole angular and jagged shit for years and its still fugly. I prefer this.
tornadosandwich
People just don't like change. They want the boring truck design that hasn't really changed much in a century
JapsMcGee
A lot of folks are giving it hell for it's aesthetics. I'm all about function over form. Seems like it's gonna be rad!
SomeDetroitGuy
This kind of fails on both, though.
bamcobra
Shape is all about timing. When Pontiac built the Aztec, the market said “Nope”. Now, “Maybe”.
OMGPorkchop
People hated the DeLorean as well. Now people love them. Wait until a cool movie uses one. Then it will be the shit.
soepie7
Function over form, and yet no side mirrors?
BenSnow97
Side mirrors are terrible for aero, which reduces range a lot
JapsMcGee
I'd have to see the console inside to see if it's replaced mirrors with cameras
NeoBaggins
It’s also a good price. Only issue is powering it, but I suppose, if you were really worried you could put a multi fuel generator in the bed
ScrewYouAndTheDildoYouRodeInOn
THEN WHY THE FUCK EVEN BUY A..... jesus christ, fuckin forget it.
BenSnow97
Like anyone using a pickup has trouble accessing high-powered electrical outlets. RV parks are an easy place to charge it, it doesn't have >
BenSnow97
to be a Tesla supercharger, just more than your standard 115V wall plug. If you can plug high-powered tools in, it can charge the car.
JapsMcGee
I think I read it would have something like a 500 mile range, and an option for solar trickle charging in addition to normal charging option
YoungJables
250 for base. 500 mile range is the like $70k version. There are ferraris in that price range.
idonthaveanyideawhatthehelliamtalkingabout
What new ferrari can you buy for 70k ?
evilpsych
Until that first .30 bullet punctures a battery pack, then it’s a Roman candle.
Bystandr
Can install 1/2" titanium plating around battery replacing housing then good for up to .50 cal
NeverCast
I wonder how thick the titanium housing already is. I know they plated it up after that one battery fire due to road debris.
JapsMcGee
RandomIsotope
What happens next will shock you!
BenSnow97
It's coming in 2021, not sure if it's even gonna use lithium by that point
lavalamp3773
No other battery tech is viable yet, even if that changes in 2 years they won't have enough manu. capacity for it by then. It'll be Lithium.
TinyAxolotl
I've heard that they are making big progress in solid state batteries, however i havn't had the time to look it up.
jtmood
And the "impact resistant" glass was "SUPPOSED" to be bullet proof. Mr. Musk was LIVID when metal ball bearing busted it. Where was Q.C.?
Bystandr
QC test was flawed in that the mount for the glass allowed more travel (AKA shock absorbtion) than how it was mounted in the actual truck.
DILD0Z3R
Don't the battery compartments have a Kevlar layer since one shorted in a car accident?
DILD0Z3R
Nevermind, not Kevlar but still. https://www.tesla.com/blog/tesla-adds-titanium-underbody-shield-and-aluminum-deflector-plates-model-s
whatpassesforclever
I like how we’re worried about the flammable batteries and not the guy shooting at us with a .30 cal. =]
bawlin
add more steel, problem solved.
Sauroctonus
Well don't shoot it, then.
SandyTentaclez
...even if a gasoline tank was any more safe... sort of an American issue.. soo... don't care!
P3ppr
Just wait for solid state batterys.
evilpsych
You mean super/ultra/mega/teracapacitors? Yeah, those won’t blow up spectacularly either
specialfae
We need some brrrrrrrrrrrt cabin armor around the battery cells.
LudeJaw
Literally nothing you can put in a vehicle can stop 30mm. And if it’s depleted uranium, you’re extra fucked.
GondwanaCraton
At the point where someone is shooting at you with depleted uranium rounds, it doesn't much matter what kind of vehicle you are in.
errdil
Half the car is battery cells.
Firefight17
I don’t know many places where you can get a Tesla and 30 cal is still used. Unless you mean 30mm in which case everything dies
Stewker
Until we get solid-state batteries, and then no such risk. Should hopefully be coming to production vehicles in the mid 2020s. 1/2
Stewker
Increased range, reduction in weight, far far less fire hazard, and can be made with sodium, not lithium, making them vastly cheaper.
NeverCast
Reference to research or anything? I'm interested
Wraithhawit
the moment solid state lithium batteries hit the market you can bet they'll switch to them
SquanchingonImgur
They bought the company
khora
They'll probably be the ones to take them to market, given their recent acquisitions.
BoredCreep
.30 caliber is still small arms.
evilpsych
Hahaha. No. Just no. My .303 punches 1/4” steel plate with steel-core ammo on the regular
Firefight17
I think that guy was thinking of the .380, but either way I don’t see the gov’t side employing my great grandpa with his M1 to fight us soon
evilpsych
You know the cops actually use .308 (slightly better ballistics than .303) w regularity and .223 will punch that stainless easy too.
yeahIbreedtreelizards
They said it'll stop 9mm. 3mm of steel isn't going to stop. 30.
EpitomeofMediocre
wait... it's only got 3mm of RHA? Bwahahahaha! This thing's gonna be swiss cheese when real bullets start flying.
yeahIbreedtreelizards
It's a production vehicle, not AFV, so it's not armor. The fact that the panels stop a9mm is impressive. You need thick plate to stop rifle.
djzapz
There's nothing impressive about stopping 9mm rounds, it's an extremely low bar.
EpitomeofMediocre
Hmm I disagree. With the way it's being marketed, it should do more than the avg car. (I'd bet the avg car could stop 9mms frontally)
clide005
Good thing gasoline never catches fire. Thats why i keep all my family and pets travelling at high speeds on gallons of stable safe tastygas
iamthemadz
Vapor form is the key. As a liquid it's a lot harder to ignite. That being said, the batteries also wouldn't just combust. Not instantly
Nuttsy
Gas burns like a fireplace, lithium batteries burn like a solid rocket.
khora
Nope.
AntiPiety
Shooting a gas tank won’t do much other than make you lose gas quicker
ACESandEIGHTZ
While gasoline is flammable it requires oxygen to burn an can be put out once ignited. Lithium cells do not require O2 and continue to burn
Calorado
Yeah scary as fuck once it starts run and nothing will be salvageable
khora
It's a slow fire.
captainfakeypants
Sure, putting out a gasoline fire is easier, but either way you should leave any burning vehicle you're in and the vehicle is a total loss.
BenSnow97
They do require water, however, which they usually get through humidity in air. There's a lot more oxygen in air than water.
SuperPickle17
It's not the lithium that burns... it's the shear amount of stored energy that is released on short circuits...
BenSnow97
That's not how battery fires work. Stored energy requires a chemical reaction to retrieve, if you destroy the battery, you kill the reaction
superunderpants
Kinda like saying it's not that gas burns but instead is releasing the energy stored. Kinda what fire is mate
Isorikk
They batteries also have emergency cut-offs and impact resistant casing so they're still harder to ignite.
Isorikk
ICE cars also have oil, transmission fluids, lead acid battery, power steering fluid, and brake fluid that could all puncture and ignite.
JHawke
Doubt they're made to withstand gunfire though. course hardly a realistic scenario :p
Isorikk
Neither are gas tanks, and even though Hollywood loves showing how easily those blow up, the reality is nothing happens if you shoot one.
BenSnow97
it blows my mind how people think batteries are easier to ignite than a literal (internal) combustion vehicle
Winterous
I think it's more a matter of which is more dangerous when it does go up. You need a lot of petrol leaking for an explosion, but 1/2
Calorado
This other guy beat me to it - not extiguishable
JCJPark
It's not just about easier to ignite, it's about harder to extinguish, ignition vulnerability from mechanical damage, thousands of 1/2
mikeatike
Watch the mythbusters episode about shooting a gas tank. They don't go up like they do in the movies.
khora
nor does batteries.
modernshoggoth
A car has fuel lines & multiple ignition sources. Even if the gas tank doesn't explode, it's easy to cause an oil/fuel leak & start a fire.
houtaku
AS someone who’s car has burnt to the ground:
HornyPolice
https://i.imgur.com/DAs4F9M
GeekyGamer167
Shooting a gas tank could cause a fire if it hits the hot exhaust, but usually it's a fuel line near the engine that causes cars to burn.
Twiddist
That's only if you're shooting directly into a gas tank. Shooting a car's engine can rupture gas lines & turn it into a bomb just as quick.
ryanaf360
Is gas diesel or petrol?
ArmedandOverclocked
Benzin
AstralSword
Gas usually refers to petrol
thetonestarr
Gas, short for gasoline, is the original 1864 name for the product referred to in Commonwealth countries as "petrol" since 1870.
TheDrunkenWrench
While technically true, that's pure luck considering the size of the target you have to hit, how buried it is, and metal isn't see-through
Twiddist
True but when taking cover a smart person hides on the engine side b/c the engine will stop the bullets from going all the way through.
tjlord
Kinda the same as kitting a small battery system that's tucked up behind motors.
SushiJaguar
Kinda the same as hitting the ammo storage of a humvee and watching the cook-off kill everyone inside, perhaps?
captainfakeypants
So a ruptured gas tank explosion is okay? I'll take a steady fire over a sudden explosion any day of the week, thanks.
Nuttsy
You gotta do less Hollywood.
Akurei00
The majority of real explosions you see in films are gasoline explosions specifically because it's so volatile. >>
Akurei00
<< While a bullet isn't likely to ignite gasoline, the fumes could be ignited from static to bullets sparking as they strike the vehicle
olekingcole001
Didn’t mythbusters overwhelmingly disprove that?
Nuttsy
Gasoline augmented by other explosives, not just gasoline.
lljkstonefish
You know a film is high quality when they use Kerosene :)
captainfakeypants
I've seen real gas-tank explosions. They're not the same as Hollywood ones with dynamite, but they do genuinely explode.
olekingcole001
But bullets don’t set them off. Bullets will basically only poke holes in your gas tank if mythbusters was accurate
captainfakeypants
Bullets won't, but the sparks from other damage/ricochets will ingnite fuel that leaks from them, as will the 500-800C catalytic converter.
BenSnow97
Gasoline cars catch fire at something like 35-50 times the frequency of Teslas in the real world
Chols
Because there are 35-50 times conventional fuel vehicles?
BenSnow97
That's per miles driven. Even accounting for the 3-4x more accidents gas cars get in compared to Teslas, they're still way more prone to >
jm151
not to mention a lot of them are old and poorly maintained
Nuttsy
Hundreds. Maybe thousands. Many of them far longer-lived than Teslas are showing to be.
captainfakeypants
No, like-for-like. Fuel lines are rubber hoses that perish with age, with steel clips that rust. Chances of fuel leak are pretty high really