May 18, 2022 6:28 PM
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DAUKAR
All that sounds great but right now its not going to happen, the votes are simply not there.
ImHereToGetDownvotes
We need new rules for things including easier ways to get appointed members out for literally lying under oath.
tfussy
That would require them to accomplish something unfortunately
starstuffninja
15 justices, serve 15 year terms. A justice appointed each year. List submitted in April, candidate selected by June, confirmed in July
yoyo42
They've been at this for YEARS, the federal courts are stuffed with GOP supporters.
dudehiemer
Who woulda thunk a larger population would need more court circuses and ringmasters? If only it were possible to do.
DavidRodriguezJr
The thing is if the GQP takes all 3 again or even White House and Senate they will definitely expand the court then with more conservatives.
Imalwaysready
Yeah, the thing about this "plan" is that they'd just turn around and do the same thing, negating it.
CleverGroom
It's a half measure to be sure, but it's something that can be done with just 50 Senate votes if you nuke the filibuster. There's very...
...little else you can do without 67 Senate votes, and Democrats don't even have a plausible shot at 60 (Republicans do, though).
Puppydonk
What's the correlation between appeals courts and supreme court number?
Auxilium
If US would also start send actual diplomats to Europe and not just political campaign benefactors, that would be nice
Abominablesloth
The CIA is already in Europe why do we need the public front?
TeamSpicyTacos
Ha. Do you know how ambassadors get chosen? It's highest campaign donors.
tinamakingmecray
Right now we have a LOAD of bigger fish to fry, man. No can do right now. Gotta save this shitbowl country from about 4 or 5 groups of asses
darkjedi607
Get in line bub
BaronSpaghetti
I assume you’re talking about career diplomats being appointed as ambassadors?
MarshallDaemon
Lot of talk when they cant pass other things.
ShyWifeGingerKitten
Doesn't solve the problem. Term limits for all the bastards. No public official should be in office longer than 10 years. Period.
oldguyexlurker
Stare decisis died of politics.
catskhiker
Yes, yes and more yes...
SometimesISayDumbShit
Dems need to start fighting fire with fire like fucking yesterday. Increase the Supreme Court seats is a day late and a dollar short but idc
OrganoMetallic2016
Don’t worry the republicans will expand it using this logic when it comes back to them.
muckamuckamuck
How much you wanna bet that Manchin and Sinema will block this attempt? How much you wanna bet they hold that much contempt for women?
goodforyouman
How?
KilgoreCemetery
Serious question: what's to stop GOP from adding 30 more the next time they take power? Dems need to get their shit together
HonestCommentFarmer
How does that ease the burden on both Appeals Courts and the Supreme Court?
haxanjunkie13
It's what Mitch McConnell would do. Lookit, they won't learn to not f*k with our institutions if we don't f*k them up for them as well.
MrManDuh
Biden put together a commission to look into this. https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/SCOTUS-Report-Final-12.8.21-1.pdf
That's a bit apropos, isn't it?
AdamGenesis
Better fucking start doing something ... anything ...
whitey211
Not really true. https://www.history.com/news/supreme-court-justices-number-constitution
LammaFace
Shhh
Not disagreeing that we should have more, but the reasoning is very flawed.
ChurlishSunshine
Sad that you're getting downvoted because the reasoning in this tweet is factually incorrect.
DigitalMau
holy shit you have survive! i would not expect you to still be in the positive after pointing out the flaw
I also can not believe it!
bigeasy44
To all the Repubs that will call this “packing the court” & be all up in arms about it, the court was already “packed” by Repubs who refused
n0n53n53
they'll think it's a great idea when they have the power to create the seats and fill them with more fascists
To allow Obama the opportunity to appoint judges in his 2nd term & then crammed in 3 under trump
They may not have increased the number of judges, but they definitely skewed the sway of liberal vs conservative
zFUBARz
Technically they didn't pack the court, they just filled it with partisan hacks. I minor distinction, but worth knowing it is one.
SmokyDoggg
Not with the amount of votes in congress. Check your voter registration at vote.org VOTE THEM OUT
Xenarion
Still nuts that you have to register to vote. Here in Canada, if you do your taxes, it's a single checkbox and you automatically register.
gaidinbdj
It's the same here with drivers licenses/ID cards. It's also on a lot of public assistance forms as just a checkbox.
seehemewe
Anyone who was waiting for the 2018 "Blue Wave" should think of how worked up they were that Clinton lost to Trump & how much that got 1/
2/ them to make sure to vote & make sure all their friends got to vote. Now think how many Trump voters actually believe the WH was stolen
3/ and how likely they'll be to vote & make sure all their friends vote & maybe even intimidate voters in liberal neighborhoods.
4/4 2022 is going to be a very important year to get out and vote, maybe even more important than 2020. Check registration now.
Couldn't have said it better myself. This year we also have our Governor Race here in Texas.
Xerrai
I still cant get texas to re-register me since they kicked me off after the last election and its been 2 years
SomeSorcerer
We are approaching a point where it may not matter, the right is seeking to consolidate power, the districts are gerrymandered. They know 1/
That these upcoming generations lean left so they are looking for a way to make sure they can remain in power. We should still vote. But 2/
As long as the Democrats voted for refuse to take any action against the reich wing this will only continue to get worse.
Doesn't matter. Gerrymandering doesn't work if enough people vote blue. They're counting on people becoming disillusioned and not vote.
trippingthelightfantastic
philovirus
I feel this comment might be referencing convicted rapist Brock Turner.
winkyroomba
And his brother from another mother Bowen Turner the Rapist.
Burglarsonarceny85
awkwardbeautiful
That’s good right there. I’d pay good money to see someone talk to those lying fuckwads like that. Put them in their place.
FierceAndAdorable
Proctor MN 17 yo football player lead six others in holding down an sodomising a 15 yo teammate with a toilet plunger. A year later 1/2
they kept it in juvenile court, no name released, and he only got probation. So we know he is white, and a family of status. 2/2
stlouiscardinalsfan7
Im sure we can figure it out, there are always ways to accomplish things. That’s a name we need to know.
Thoughttoolongaboutthis
Same thing happened at my high school. I actually saw it. Nobody was charged. No trouble. At all. Everybody hated the kid it happened to tho
The victim was a klepto and would go in the locker room and steal from everybody during practice multiple times. When he got caught, (1/2)
The seniors decided they would take care of it. Which consisted of holding dude down and broomstickin him
That’s just wrong
PrincessBride1
You're as bad as any of them for never reporting it to police.
BootsDusty
encrypteddecryption
12th court established 1981. 13th in 1963. Not sure that logic flies. 9 justices... 15 justices... doesn't matter... partisanship will reign
DonnaNobleInTheLibrary
Sixteen. Do it like Germany, have two panels of eight who come together in threes for smaller cases, or full panel for the big ones.
Also, 12 year term limit. Single term. And appointment alternates between Bundestag (House) and Bundesrat (Senate).
mmontour
If you wanted to be fair, write it to add 2 justices now and 2 in the next Presidential term. Gives GOP a chance to win and restore balance.
(Note: being fair is probably a losing strategy vs. the current version of the Republican party)
AGrammeIsBetterThanADamn
in 1993 the tipped minimum wage was set at $2.13/hr because at that time it was 1/2 of the $4.25 federal minimum wage
IMayNotKnowWhatIAmTalkingAbout
And it NEVER went up...
timmaybanks
Well tips are a percent of bill so their wage tracked inflation better. Most waiters make 20+
Which only goes to show the value of the labor they contribute. Which is NOT paid for by their employer. Servers earn their money.
Well it's more tradition. It's like real estate. They don't add 6% in "value" anymore with algos and sites available. Same with servers
Let's drag out the conversation until Republicans are in power then they'll tell us the answer.
TsubakiTragic
Lordy, a brother shouting in the wilderness. Whilst the left side reads poetry and has peace marches, the right side just shoots it out.
MrWizzzard
GOP: let's drag out this conversation until we're in power so we can fast track our pre-groomed appointees.
witheredspoon
The Republicans would try to block EVERY SINGLE nomination, and Manchin and Sinema would help them!
SomeDetroitGuy
They haven't blocked a single judicial nominee Biden has put forth.
smashpro1
Manchin and Sinema didn't block the new one, Brown.
True, they did not. But do you feel confident they wouldn't block any new seats?
LoudBirb
I'd rather try and maybe fail than immediately fail by not trying.
Congrats all 6 expanded seats are now anti. Abortion Christians in 2024 after being blocked for 2 years
Then they might retake the White House in 2024, jam up the new, unoccupied seats with more Kavanaughs, and add two more seats for funsies.
The new seats would be filled before then.
So you tie the number of seats to the number of circuit courts.
Why, though? Does each circuit get to promote one justice? If not, how are the two related in any way that their numbers *should* match? >
It seems like every bit an arbitrary metric as any other proposed here. Why do the number of circuit courts matter at all?
DAUKAR
All that sounds great but right now its not going to happen, the votes are simply not there.
ImHereToGetDownvotes
We need new rules for things including easier ways to get appointed members out for literally lying under oath.
tfussy
That would require them to accomplish something unfortunately
starstuffninja
15 justices, serve 15 year terms. A justice appointed each year. List submitted in April, candidate selected by June, confirmed in July
yoyo42
They've been at this for YEARS, the federal courts are stuffed with GOP supporters.
dudehiemer
Who woulda thunk a larger population would need more court circuses and ringmasters? If only it were possible to do.
DavidRodriguezJr
The thing is if the GQP takes all 3 again or even White House and Senate they will definitely expand the court then with more conservatives.
Imalwaysready
Yeah, the thing about this "plan" is that they'd just turn around and do the same thing, negating it.
CleverGroom
It's a half measure to be sure, but it's something that can be done with just 50 Senate votes if you nuke the filibuster. There's very...
CleverGroom
...little else you can do without 67 Senate votes, and Democrats don't even have a plausible shot at 60 (Republicans do, though).
Puppydonk
What's the correlation between appeals courts and supreme court number?
Auxilium
If US would also start send actual diplomats to Europe and not just political campaign benefactors, that would be nice
Abominablesloth
The CIA is already in Europe why do we need the public front?
TeamSpicyTacos
Ha. Do you know how ambassadors get chosen? It's highest campaign donors.
tinamakingmecray
Right now we have a LOAD of bigger fish to fry, man. No can do right now. Gotta save this shitbowl country from about 4 or 5 groups of asses
darkjedi607
Get in line bub
BaronSpaghetti
I assume you’re talking about career diplomats being appointed as ambassadors?
MarshallDaemon
Lot of talk when they cant pass other things.
ShyWifeGingerKitten
Doesn't solve the problem. Term limits for all the bastards. No public official should be in office longer than 10 years. Period.
oldguyexlurker
Stare decisis died of politics.
catskhiker
Yes, yes and more yes...
SometimesISayDumbShit
Dems need to start fighting fire with fire like fucking yesterday. Increase the Supreme Court seats is a day late and a dollar short but idc
OrganoMetallic2016
Don’t worry the republicans will expand it using this logic when it comes back to them.
muckamuckamuck
How much you wanna bet that Manchin and Sinema will block this attempt? How much you wanna bet they hold that much contempt for women?
goodforyouman
How?
KilgoreCemetery
Serious question: what's to stop GOP from adding 30 more the next time they take power? Dems need to get their shit together
HonestCommentFarmer
How does that ease the burden on both Appeals Courts and the Supreme Court?
haxanjunkie13
It's what Mitch McConnell would do. Lookit, they won't learn to not f*k with our institutions if we don't f*k them up for them as well.
MrManDuh
Biden put together a commission to look into this. https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/SCOTUS-Report-Final-12.8.21-1.pdf
HonestCommentFarmer
AdamGenesis
Better fucking start doing something ... anything ...
whitey211
Not really true. https://www.history.com/news/supreme-court-justices-number-constitution
LammaFace
Shhh
whitey211
Not disagreeing that we should have more, but the reasoning is very flawed.
ChurlishSunshine
Sad that you're getting downvoted because the reasoning in this tweet is factually incorrect.
DigitalMau
holy shit you have survive! i would not expect you to still be in the positive after pointing out the flaw
whitey211
I also can not believe it!
bigeasy44
To all the Repubs that will call this “packing the court” & be all up in arms about it, the court was already “packed” by Repubs who refused
n0n53n53
they'll think it's a great idea when they have the power to create the seats and fill them with more fascists
bigeasy44
To allow Obama the opportunity to appoint judges in his 2nd term & then crammed in 3 under trump
bigeasy44
They may not have increased the number of judges, but they definitely skewed the sway of liberal vs conservative
zFUBARz
Technically they didn't pack the court, they just filled it with partisan hacks. I minor distinction, but worth knowing it is one.
SmokyDoggg
Not with the amount of votes in congress. Check your voter registration at vote.org VOTE THEM OUT
Xenarion
Still nuts that you have to register to vote. Here in Canada, if you do your taxes, it's a single checkbox and you automatically register.
gaidinbdj
It's the same here with drivers licenses/ID cards. It's also on a lot of public assistance forms as just a checkbox.
seehemewe
Anyone who was waiting for the 2018 "Blue Wave" should think of how worked up they were that Clinton lost to Trump & how much that got 1/
seehemewe
2/ them to make sure to vote & make sure all their friends got to vote. Now think how many Trump voters actually believe the WH was stolen
seehemewe
3/ and how likely they'll be to vote & make sure all their friends vote & maybe even intimidate voters in liberal neighborhoods.
seehemewe
4/4 2022 is going to be a very important year to get out and vote, maybe even more important than 2020. Check registration now.
SmokyDoggg
Couldn't have said it better myself. This year we also have our Governor Race here in Texas.
Xerrai
I still cant get texas to re-register me since they kicked me off after the last election and its been 2 years
SomeSorcerer
We are approaching a point where it may not matter, the right is seeking to consolidate power, the districts are gerrymandered. They know 1/
SomeSorcerer
That these upcoming generations lean left so they are looking for a way to make sure they can remain in power. We should still vote. But 2/
SomeSorcerer
As long as the Democrats voted for refuse to take any action against the reich wing this will only continue to get worse.
SmokyDoggg
Doesn't matter. Gerrymandering doesn't work if enough people vote blue. They're counting on people becoming disillusioned and not vote.
trippingthelightfantastic
philovirus
I feel this comment might be referencing convicted rapist Brock Turner.
winkyroomba
And his brother from another mother Bowen Turner the Rapist.
Burglarsonarceny85
awkwardbeautiful
That’s good right there. I’d pay good money to see someone talk to those lying fuckwads like that. Put them in their place.
FierceAndAdorable
Proctor MN 17 yo football player lead six others in holding down an sodomising a 15 yo teammate with a toilet plunger. A year later 1/2
FierceAndAdorable
they kept it in juvenile court, no name released, and he only got probation. So we know he is white, and a family of status. 2/2
stlouiscardinalsfan7
Im sure we can figure it out, there are always ways to accomplish things. That’s a name we need to know.
Thoughttoolongaboutthis
Same thing happened at my high school. I actually saw it. Nobody was charged. No trouble. At all. Everybody hated the kid it happened to tho
Thoughttoolongaboutthis
The victim was a klepto and would go in the locker room and steal from everybody during practice multiple times. When he got caught, (1/2)
Thoughttoolongaboutthis
The seniors decided they would take care of it. Which consisted of holding dude down and broomstickin him
FierceAndAdorable
That’s just wrong
PrincessBride1
You're as bad as any of them for never reporting it to police.
BootsDusty
encrypteddecryption
12th court established 1981. 13th in 1963. Not sure that logic flies. 9 justices... 15 justices... doesn't matter... partisanship will reign
DonnaNobleInTheLibrary
Sixteen. Do it like Germany, have two panels of eight who come together in threes for smaller cases, or full panel for the big ones.
DonnaNobleInTheLibrary
Also, 12 year term limit. Single term. And appointment alternates between Bundestag (House) and Bundesrat (Senate).
mmontour
If you wanted to be fair, write it to add 2 justices now and 2 in the next Presidential term. Gives GOP a chance to win and restore balance.
mmontour
(Note: being fair is probably a losing strategy vs. the current version of the Republican party)
AGrammeIsBetterThanADamn
in 1993 the tipped minimum wage was set at $2.13/hr because at that time it was 1/2 of the $4.25 federal minimum wage
IMayNotKnowWhatIAmTalkingAbout
And it NEVER went up...
timmaybanks
Well tips are a percent of bill so their wage tracked inflation better. Most waiters make 20+
IMayNotKnowWhatIAmTalkingAbout
Which only goes to show the value of the labor they contribute. Which is NOT paid for by their employer. Servers earn their money.
timmaybanks
Well it's more tradition. It's like real estate. They don't add 6% in "value" anymore with algos and sites available. Same with servers
n0n53n53
Let's drag out the conversation until Republicans are in power then they'll tell us the answer.
TsubakiTragic
Lordy, a brother shouting in the wilderness. Whilst the left side reads poetry and has peace marches, the right side just shoots it out.
MrWizzzard
GOP: let's drag out this conversation until we're in power so we can fast track our pre-groomed appointees.
witheredspoon
The Republicans would try to block EVERY SINGLE nomination, and Manchin and Sinema would help them!
SomeDetroitGuy
They haven't blocked a single judicial nominee Biden has put forth.
smashpro1
Manchin and Sinema didn't block the new one, Brown.
witheredspoon
True, they did not. But do you feel confident they wouldn't block any new seats?
LoudBirb
I'd rather try and maybe fail than immediately fail by not trying.
timmaybanks
Congrats all 6 expanded seats are now anti. Abortion Christians in 2024 after being blocked for 2 years
Imalwaysready
Then they might retake the White House in 2024, jam up the new, unoccupied seats with more Kavanaughs, and add two more seats for funsies.
SomeDetroitGuy
The new seats would be filled before then.
IMayNotKnowWhatIAmTalkingAbout
So you tie the number of seats to the number of circuit courts.
Imalwaysready
Why, though? Does each circuit get to promote one justice? If not, how are the two related in any way that their numbers *should* match? >
Imalwaysready
It seems like every bit an arbitrary metric as any other proposed here. Why do the number of circuit courts matter at all?