Congress hasnt actually declared war since WW2. Everything else has been unregulated spending and bureaucratic nonsense. Technically all of these are not wars just the US being a bully and sticking their nose where it doesn’t belong.
There was no war with Venezuela. There was an unprovoked ACT of war... by the US. But no war. Not even in the 'war that's not really a war because it was never declared but is effectively a war, war' sense.
probably cause he essentially "won" that one, so he has to put as much emphasis as possible. if it had failed he would have called it like "the Venezuela situation" or something
He can’t call the Iran “conflict” a war because Congress ruled that he didn’t have the power to continue the “war”. In his brain that only means “I can’t say the word war” and the GOP is too spineless to call him out.
There’s a 60 day window where the president can “commit forces” without congressional approval. Since Venezuela was a one day operation there didn’t need to be a question of it.
So while legally, no, it was not a war, nobody is specificially telling him that he can’t do it.
He's also skipping the part where if you only look at the first 4 months of our involvement in Vietnam and Korea, the figure for us is 0 dead. And ignoring the fact that he and Hegseth are clamoring to "put boots on the ground" in Iran which will see that number skyrocket.
He's also ignoring the fact that 5 of those 6 conflicts were started by republican presidents, 4 of them by the same 2 guys. The only 1 that had a democrat president in office when it started was the Korean war, and truman definitely didn't start that even though he did send support immediately.
Remember, this is the guy who said Arlington National Cemetery was filled with "suckers and losers". He doesn't care how many soldiers die. All he cares about is how much money he can make off of the deaths of the soldiers.
I like how Iran isn’t a war, but he compares it to wars. Show us the stats for some other “Military Operations”. If it’s not a war it’s like comparing Jordan to a guy that happens to own a basketball.
Because Congress said he doesn’t have the authority to wage a “war” in Iran. So in his mind, that literally means “They only said war, I just need to not call it a war”.
Fair enough. I wasn't correcting your English tho. It's common to repeat "kind of?" as a way of affirming that it is indeed the thing, instead of almost the thing, or similar but not exactly the thing, which is the implicit meaning of "kind of". :)
McFrazzlestache
What kind of a soulless cannibal ghoul uses KIA war stats as a flex? Oh. Right.
Antrobus55
Jesus fucking Christ that guy is crazier than a shithouse rat.
TheGrumpyOldTroll
NOW DO USAID FUNDING CUT CASUALTIES!
InablueMule
He has killed many civilians in other countries.
FisheswithDynamite
Ooooh, venezuela was a war huh? Quiet part out loud a bit, innit.
EmeRgencyDrD
How many people did he kill during covid?
gtollie
Was Venezuela really a “war” ?? I don’t remember Congress voting on that.
suggestedCleverUsernameGenerator
Congress hasnt actually declared war since WW2.
Everything else has been unregulated spending and bureaucratic nonsense. Technically all of these are not wars just the US being a bully and sticking their nose where it doesn’t belong.
DiabloGrandeArts
Congress didn't vote on Iran, either, yet here we are.
bourbonandbaddecisions
Barron should be pressed into military service.
Flash82
Not counting economical losses and international relations going down the drain of course, as if any of those would matter
UseTheSource
ah good, he declared it the "Venezuele War", violating article 1 of the the US constitution.
pm1001
Notice that Iran is not a 'war'.
DaravinDK
None of those were
TheGrumpyOldTroll
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0xBADA55
Venezuela wasn’t a war
Hovencl00f
Venezuela was more an act of piracy and banditry.
gtferrari
surprised he didnt say this was bidens fault or say anything about the 13 lives lost in the withdraw from afghanistan
DarthVaderDidNothingWrong
Only dead Americans count, I see.
YouCantSpellSlaughterWithoutLaughter
"9/11: 1 day, 19 dead"
/Osama Bin Laden
RaVeNrcft
The daily... "Can you imagine if Obama tweeted that?"
duktayp
Completely disregarding the 100+++ Elementary School girls dead https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Minab_school_attack
Heisanevilgenius
Only American soldiers matter
TheWombatStrikesAgain
What, you expect America to count the lives of foreigners, like they're people? Look at this unpatriot, folks! /s
medimr
Oh man, if we were counting the people the US has slaughtered in these wars, those numbers would be *much* higher.
ElroydIsGone
By that measure, the Vietnam war cost roughly 3mio more deaths than the 58220 shown here.
TheUnnamedPoet
But those were brown people. Maga doesn't count brown people unless they're deporting them.
MrOne2
https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1bG1hYmtkM21vOGoyeDE0dDFjc2owcWJlNTVpaW8yZXI2Y2p0emo1ayZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/duM6JZemPlOjUyqmxd/200w.webp
LordHosk
Every one of those numbers discounts enemy combatants and civilians.
TooRexyForMyShirt
Oh, you. As much as Republicans love dead children, those don't count. They were a.) children, b.) *female*, and c.) brown.
georgejimmydoodle
To Republicans, those were not people.
ps238principal
And in the same breath they'll say that Iran killing protestors is what justified their on-again off-again war in the first place.
MarkTwainsMysteriousStranger
It was Israel Mossad agents who were killing the protesters the whole time
usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
dick wrote '18' thinking 'only'.
Nostradamuswaswrong
Iraq was a lot longer than 9 years.
Lugh314159
There was no war with Venezuela. There was an unprovoked ACT of war... by the US. But no war. Not even in the 'war that's not really a war because it was never declared but is effectively a war, war' sense.
urusername2
4 months SO FAR. And, he admits to killing 18 military in an unnecessary war.
kydn
So Venezuela kidnap and extraction was a war, bit Iran isn't?
ILoveThiPlatform
Good point
kydn
FUCK I just noticed my typo
Robbann
probably cause he essentially "won" that one, so he has to put as much emphasis as possible. if it had failed he would have called it like "the Venezuela situation" or something
PileOfWalthers
Special military operation.
2774
It's certainly an *act* of war.
FuManLu
He had to name it that because it's the only War that he's won. (kinda)
crossingdynasty
He can’t call the Iran “conflict” a war because Congress ruled that he didn’t have the power to continue the “war”. In his brain that only means “I can’t say the word war” and the GOP is too spineless to call him out.
Gestalt7
But Congress also didn't declare war on Venezuela, so he's wrong there too.
threepotatoesinatrenchcoat
He's wrong there, but he doesn't have any intention of further military action there, so he doesn't have to be careful about the wording
WhyDontYouMakeMe
I think the terror wars are the only "legit" wars on that list if you go by Congress's reckoning
fartyandbloated
Believe it or not, Congress hasn’t actually declared war since 1942. Everything since has been a military operation or some variation of that label.
crossingdynasty
There’s a 60 day window where the president can “commit forces” without congressional approval. Since Venezuela was a one day operation there didn’t need to be a question of it.
So while legally, no, it was not a war, nobody is specificially telling him that he can’t do it.
JarJarDrinks
And all except Korea were started by the US.
duktayp
18 *so far*
ArchaeoEejit
18 that we can't deny.
Omnimorph2112
Why would you compare a *reads notes* 'military conflict' with wars? Are they similar?
pm1001
Notice that dead foreigners don't count
TooRexyForMyShirt
Surely the rapist con-man braggart obsessed with ratings would be a good person to elect as President!
Nbiakro
"Forgot" Gaza again, huh? https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1dGlscXI2bXlkbGEyMGhteGFqN2pzbWFvZmIxZjIzZ2V1Z215aWxzeiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/3ohzdYJK1wAdPWVk88/200w.webp
RigidGristle
TheGrumpyOldTroll
why would somebody do this to pigs?!
ILoveThiPlatform
Is he implying the deaths of 18 people is no big deal since it's not more?
ThoseRulesArentReal
Say nothing that there’s more than 18 PEOPLE dead. #168
iggylights
Yep. No new wars and zero dead should have been the pitch
JaimeLannistersRightHand
That *WAS* the pitch...
ElbowDeepInUserSub
He's also skipping the part where if you only look at the first 4 months of our involvement in Vietnam and Korea, the figure for us is 0 dead. And ignoring the fact that he and Hegseth are clamoring to "put boots on the ground" in Iran which will see that number skyrocket.
yuugian
But all those dead will just be the "Suckers and Losers". Our real heroes are High-T roid-rage killers with rock-hard dongs
Caughtintheconcentricelipsesofchaosanditsinnatemadness
And a $1.5 trillion budget...
DianNaoChong
No He implied any deaths are no big deal
Drew442
Yes.
georgejimmydoodle
Yes. He might point out that he has fewer loosers (i.e., dead military) than any other president.
mikeatike
Also ignoring how many children the US war criminals have murdered.
jayman0123
He's also ignoring the fact that 5 of those 6 conflicts were started by republican presidents, 4 of them by the same 2 guys. The only 1 that had a democrat president in office when it started was the Korean war, and truman definitely didn't start that even though he did send support immediately.
zHurk777
To be fair trump is also implying that 129 dead school children are no big deal too !!!
TheWombatStrikesAgain
He thinks none of these deaths matter, since it's not him. But he knows some people care about that kind of thing.
Simusar
Remember, this is the guy who said Arlington National Cemetery was filled with "suckers and losers". He doesn't care how many soldiers die. All he cares about is how much money he can make off of the deaths of the soldiers.
Comet260
Yes, he is. And I wish the very, very, VERY worst for him.
LivingDeadX
He's actually flexing over this
Eyeetsass
I like how Iran isn’t a war, but he compares it to wars. Show us the stats for some other “Military Operations”. If it’s not a war it’s like comparing Jordan to a guy that happens to own a basketball.
crossingdynasty
Because Congress said he doesn’t have the authority to wage a “war” in Iran. So in his mind, that literally means “They only said war, I just need to not call it a war”.
FraudulentPepsi
How many excursion deaths?
SlightlyRelatedToThePost
Not a single one of those on the list is a war. The US hasn't been in a war since WW2.
Eyeetsass
Go fish idiot. You can’t draft without a war.
SlightlyRelatedToThePost
Wrong. The draft was allowed until the Military Selective Service Act expired in 1973. Vietnam and Korea both fell underneath that act. Use google.
nomnamless
Also I guess invading a country and kidnapping someone is somehow a war?
Eyeetsass
Anything is whatever these fuckers need it to be.
ElAburrimientoMePuede
Isn't he counting only the american deaths?. That's kind of disgusting.
CheeseB0t
Kind of?
ElAburrimientoMePuede
I'm not a native english speaker, sometimes I mess up.
CheeseB0t
Fair enough.
I wasn't correcting your English tho. It's common to repeat "kind of?" as a way of affirming that it is indeed the thing, instead of almost the thing, or similar but not exactly the thing, which is the implicit meaning of "kind of". :)
modus0
On brand for him though, he likely doesn't even consider the other side to be *human*.