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swatz
Hell yeah, think about a 68 fastback mustang EV, instead of that cross over thing they're calling the Mach E.
3OH22A
I'd buy an electric 2nd gen Honda Prelude.
europenudist
Eurobeat intensifies
IWantToHugEveryCat
I want electric DMC DeLorean. I know they are making a new one but I bet they make it all modern looking.
PieAndPunch
Wouldn't drift the same though
Beelsebooob
But but but - battery electric is not proven, we need to do hydrogen fuel cells, because... reasons... totally not that we're behind.
ChristopherHallett
If done right, hydrogen fuel cell tech is basically renewable, and is much lower weight plus can be refilled in seconds.
Beelsebooob
Except that it's not, because hydrogen production is almost 100% from oil, and is actually *much* heavier due to the weight of the tank.
ChristopherHallett
Congrats, there is more than one way to make hydrogen for fuel-cell cars, and you're wrong about the weight compared to battery-electric.
DeliciousMeatCurtains
clubracer
Hard pass
Codecomp
Replace engine noise with eurobeat
bedframe
This is not true, they'd sell a thousand or so to enthusiasts on the high end, and make nothing.
Ricdesan
No no no just make it a 50 mpg hybrid and Im there.
lebronkeykong
i have an electric RC drift car and one of these shells for it does that count ?
Mightynineftw2000
Pop up headlights!!
Itwasmeiatethecake
Bring back to old hilux
AussieNotNamedBruce
There's a company that specialises in converting dinosaur fuelled vehicles into EV's. They featured on Wheeler Dealers Maserati episode.
LonelyHumanBoy
Name? And whats the average cost?
Aeiced
Electric is good but gasoline is more fun to driv... drift.
technicalfool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvLlrormPTk I get the whole engine noise thing but... really?
Number1Sir
Mou5e
Currently watching Initial D for the first time. Like it's on rn. I'm getting wierd Truman Show vibes.
xXxSTEVOxXx
And once it has to pass the side impact test, every single line on the car is gonna change.
FortressCraft
Most of that's the chassis tho, not the body panels.
insanumingenium
Except there is a reason the body panels are the chassis on almost every single new car, outside trucks body on frame is dead
supraman2turbo
Screw that I want to die but in a good looking car. Im mostly kidding
sweetfeetpete
Same. The car doesn’t have to be that good looking
GerbilHereReportingLiveFromRichardGeresAss
Also kiss those pop up headlights goodbye
Gorzine
You seem like a knowledgable human being. Could you explain it further please? (or provide with a usefull link?) I'd be super interested!
WoTLert
Safety standards are way dfifferent and higher now than they were then. Those cars would not pass any safety test for new cars if rereleased
xXxSTEVOxXx
One thing I can speak to is the reason the sides of cars are so tall these days is side impact, having the effect of making the car taller
Titty5prinkles
That safety rating of 0 stars..
TheNamiKage
I'm here for a good time, not a long time.
xXxSTEVOxXx
That safety rating of not track *or* road legal
Idontneedrealfacts
But gonna drop all your bros' boxers! Er, I mean ladies panties....
xXxSTEVOxXx
Lmao hey there's room to pick up hot chicks in your heavily modded 90s hot hatch AND geek out on wheel horses and valve timing
infernopg
Yeah love these old cars, but that's the reason I have a halfcage, harness and shells in my S13. These cars are a deathtrap
henofthewoods
You know it's a good car when you're the part that breaks first.
4vie
Details....
houpbajoup
*Laughs in motorcycle*
Ree81
Good point. If motorcycles can be legal, safety standards should be decreased in cars too. They'd be lighter = good for environment
thri1
I'm sure modern airbags and some crumple zone changes would bump that to 4 stars while keeping the design the same.
Titty5prinkles
Designs don't work that way...
ufoara
Try again. Even the hood would be a bubble wrappy to meet Pedestrian safety rules.
huho
Well everybody is kansei dorifto in that badboy so yeah. Not safe
dustmywets
Depressed Imgurians
FeloniousMonk13
anything but another boring ass SUV!
Syrpynt
Think of the Karens!
supraman2turbo
or a sedan that looks like a nissan altima. Seriously all SUVs look the same and all sedans look the same.
00110001001001111010000110110110011
A lot of car companies don’t even make sedans anymore. They’re all SUVs and crossovers
supraman2turbo
Look I hate Fords, was raised Chevy. But I respected the mustang and what Ford has done to it is a war crime
TalaayaCosplay
Oh boy have you seen the "Mustang" SUV? What a monstrosity. They really don't care anymore do they?
supraman2turbo
Thats what Im talking about the war crime. The first pony car turned into a god damn SUV
ChristopherHallett
People want SUVs. Go buy a BRZ if you want something fun.
ChristopherHallett
Literally impossible. Whoever made this does NOT understand simple engineering and basic safety regulations.
Caspooky
I absolutely love cars from the 80s, so boxy, square and flat. Only the Honda E is the only EV that comes close to that style again.
DukeDarkwood
Nikolai5
I recently bought a Mercedes 190E, love it.
LupusLilium
I'd kill for a 60s era Continental done up to be EV with modern accoutrements.
Caspooky
If anyone has a better EV that looks like it's from the 80s, please let me know! :)
GrumpyOldMillennial
https://youtu.be/io_cqBj6pRE It's a concept so probably never be made but....just look at what we ALMOST could have and weep.
Caspooky
Oh very nice! Awesome to know there's at least being effort put into it. :)
itsokimaussie
The Cybertruck? Not better, but it looks old as fuck...
Devils41
If you make that a FD RX7 we got a deal
CivilizedUndead
What the world needs is a sub $15,000 electric car without all the bells and whistles. Make it super affordable, and everyone will buy it.
CivilizedUndead
And before anyone says it's impossible, both the Europeans and Chinese are working on ultra-cheap electric cars.
ChristopherHallett
Considering just the battery pack would be 1/3 the price of the car, it will be extremely small and very shit. Do you actually want that?
CivilizedUndead
And yes, even if it's a small 2 seater box, it'll be fine. There is a market for cheap electric that companies Judy aren't catering to. 2/2
CivilizedUndead
Most people don't travel far, even if they do 150 before a recharge, that's more than enough for a majority of people.
MightyIink
Seriously, there's so many old bodies I'm quite fond of, I would love to see them come back with modern hardware.
Howdidjadewdat
I know... like Farah Fawcett, Demi Moore, Diane Lane, Meg Ryan...
waeraj
Isn't that what restomods are? I know a company in britain that turns classic jags electric. It wouldn't be that hard really.
Fatbird
Would kill a man for a 1948 buick roadmaster with a Nissan Leaf internals.
obarey
You can't. Those bodies do not meet today's safety standards. Unless maybe built from fking expensive materials. Nothing before 1991 or so.
torokunai
So your'e saying the FD RX-7 is on?
SirRichfield
For some reason, car companies think we want to drive boxes. Give me back DESIGN. Give me the Manta B, a ROUND and BUBBLY Suzuki Microvan...
CityYeti
The Hummer is coming back, but in electric form
ChristopherHallett
Ahh yes, modern cars - utterly devoid of DESIGN. I don't think you know what that word means.
GrumpyOldMillennial
https://youtu.be/io_cqBj6pRE I mean, here's a box that I would drive. All the design is on the inside where I'd be, and it's flawless.
SirRichfield
I agree. That looks nice. Opel teased us Germans with this one:
SirRichfield
VW, I'm looking at you: The FUCK is the ID.Buzz supposed to be? Which part of "T2" did you not get?
FortressCraft
You know the crumple zone in the original was your legs, right?
SirRichfield
You're saying with all the advancements in car construction (and pedestrian safety) it is impossible to build a nice looking crumble zone?
FortressCraft
The Buzz *has* a crumple zone. Part of the T2 glory was how close you sat to the front. Aerodynamics also didn't enter into the T2's design!
SirRichfield
Yes. All I want is the crumple zone of the Buzz looking a bit more like the T2 and not like a box, which, btw. is even less aerodynamic. :)
SirRichfield
You know there are still a LOT of small, round cars build today? That even survive the German Zulassungsstelle?
SirRichfield
Or even this guy:
LupusLilium
My issue is they're not boxy, but they're all smooth edges and roughly the same. Bring back 60-80s sharp edges and obvious lines. Like a
SirRichfield
Boxy isn't my issue either. Boxy is fine, boxy can be design. It's that they literally look like a box.
LupusLilium
I'm just annoyed that it seems all mid-range cars are looking identical. If you want something that looks nice, you have to go expensive.
SirRichfield
Over here, even the expensive cars start to look the same.
LupusLilium
Lincoln Continental, it had design and pizazz.
fireflowerfire
I don't understand, an electric car is just a fucking skateboard with whatever frame you want on top, why is it so fucking hard.
jbrontey
It's going to come that you click a body and it gets 3D printed onto your skateboard.
SimiKusoni
*A skateboard with a 500kg bomb strapped to it that has to be designed to not kill absolutely everybody in the vicinity of a crash.
astralfields
The batteries of an EV are much harder to get to burn/explode than a 20 gal tank of highly flammable gasoline. EVs are generally safer.
astralfields
The only way you can make an EV battery explode is by piercing it somehow. A broad impact, even a pipe bomb, won't do it.
astralfields
Meanwhile gasoline just needs a single spark and some air, and you've got a proper inferno goin.
SimiKusoni
The above was half in jest but the reason those batteries are so safe is because of a number of design constraints that the above user was
TheWhiteBarry
Real answer: Toyota is actively fighting the EV revolution to keep the fossil fuel industry alive longer. Fuck them, buy electric.
Amanda55andcows
Stupid thing is the EV-RAV4 has the highest cust. satisfaction rating of any of the old EVs. They could have owned the market.
elos04
Yes the maker of the Prius hates EVs. Aren’t they just going with Hydrogen Fuel Cells for “full EV”. Hopefully green hydrogen.
TheWhiteBarry
Hybrids are a joke and an excuse to keep burning oil. Hydrogen is created from natural gas or electrolysis at which point just use electric
TheWhiteBarry
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesmorris/2021/10/02/why-toyota-has-got-it-wrong-on-electric-cars/?sh=302987b4686f
Fatbird
Safety regs. No car past 1991 is going to pass even the simplest of impact tests.
TalaayaCosplay
Had an 86 civic for a while. Was really unnerving to be in, especially on the freeway with a bunch of huge SUVs. Like being in a tin can.
TK421isAFK
Except tin cans are corrugated for structural rigidity and have crumple zones.
TalaayaCosplay
hahaha true
DescribingWhatYoureWatching
also aerodynamics, EV-batteries are heavy as fuuuuuuu and every piece of wind is going to cut into the possible range.
pallemanns
The best example for that statement: https://youtu.be/85OysZ_4lp0
Fatbird
That's such an extreme difference. I knew modern cars were better, but seeing it put in perspective like that in slow motion is just insane.
jbrontey
So, I drive a Caterham Super 7. I don't understand how it's legal if impact tests are an actual thing.
JustAnotherRandomCommenter
because old cars get grandfathered in. a new car imitating an old car doesnt.
JustAnotherRandomCommenter
like, my dad recently got his 73 jeep rebuilt. just the *vin plate* was worth as much as the car beforehand, because they could've built an
JustAnotherRandomCommenter
entirely new car around it, following 1970s regulations rather than 2020 regs. (UK, but i'm sure US is similar)
jbrontey
This IS a new car imitating an old car. It's the Lotus 7 from 1972, mine made in 2014. Lots of them around.
JustAnotherRandomCommenter
oh sorry, misunderstood! having just looked, i think they're technically done as 'kit cars', and bypass the regs that way instead?
charliegrs
I'll never understand the appeal of driving a car that sounds like an electric drill
houpbajoup
*Flashback to messing around with Tyco RC cars in the parking lot near home* yeah no idea
astralfields
I mean, I do prefer the sound of a V8, but that isn't why I would buy an EV. The main reason is that they're insanely cheap to drive and →
astralfields
→ maintain. No expensive gas, no oil, little to no maintenance. Also, no terribly unhealthy exhaust gases/particles. →
astralfields
→ They also have insane torque/acceleration which makes them quite fun to drive, which I suppose is the reason a gearhead would buy an EV.
houpbajoup
Monster acceleration but the battery pack weight makes cornering a chore.
specicom
I'll never understand the appeal of driving a car that constantly explodes internally
charliegrs
Because it fuckin rocks and makes cool noises.
specicom
I think the same about electric motor noises :)
charliegrs
It sounds like driving a Dremel tool
WhimsicalAsshole
I’ve always wonder this not in a sarcastic way. Is it the noise or the power? And is there a compromise point?
houpbajoup
Honestly I think it's what you're used to. I love a motorcycle I4 but unmuffled even I think they're godawfully obnoxious. And ICE is (1/2)
houpbajoup
(2/2) absolutely a compromise, the whole reason transmissions exist is because they make the best power in a relatively narrow rev range.
crapybarra
If they took the AE86 frame, kept the same balancing, gave it leather bucket seats & threw a Nissan Leaf SV motor in there it'd be a beast.
knowallknownothing
A Leaf?! Bro that’s like the worst EV on the market.
Wrenfield
*slaps roof* this sumbitch can carry so much tofu
nobblestein
Haha. Hahahaha. Haha. Ha.
zeo868
I just want a full electric sedan with good range and a reasonable pricetag
Chimichanga007
10 yrs away
thelegendofthetwistednavigator
It'd also fail every modern safety test.
YouMayFindThisMildlyInteresting
Hard to do with an extra ton of batteries in there.
SuperRockinMrMagic
Too bad under modern regs and batteries this thing will weigh 4k+ lbs
infernopg
They can't. Can't make cars with popups anymore due to saftey reasons sadly.
sammysixshooter
Good new they make the exact same car called a Levin, just doesn't have the pop ups. I used to own one
infernopg
You're technically correct. I know the levin but tbh the trueno is the only real AE86 in my heart
JimFromMarketing
???
BrotherEstapol
Love the idea of doing this for iconic older cars! Pretty sure the new Delorean owners were planning an EV model that looks just like the OG
Ismelledwhattherockwascooking
147hp beast?
TeamSpicyTacos
I'm going to armpit to use a leaf motor in my 84 Toyota pickup
db17k
236 lb-ft tho 2200 lb car
Ismelledwhattherockwascooking
Ehhh
Noahbalboa82
Unfortunately, the batteries will balloon the weight. They will get better
crapybarra
SV is 214hp
Groostav
I read about a Honda Civic voted engine in an old mini doing 0-60 in 3.4s. Cars used to be light, small modern engines are quite powerful.
matches0526
I would like to put a BMW M3 motor in my mini!!
infernopg
You're thinking of the type-R K swapped minis, that's 200hp though in about 600kg of car.
NirvanaNik
Mighty Car Mods did one. A dark green one, of i remember correctly. It may have been a B16 motor, maybe.
Chimichanga007
Got to add 20 airbags these days
spicetothefoo
And reinforced pillars
palmo
And who needs seatbelts, amirite?
TeflonTrout
If the Smart ForTwo can be as safe as it is, that shouldn't be too difficult
himisti
Stupid vehicle safety. Who needs that anyway? /s
4TWookie
There Are Companies that do electrical conversions, wouldnt need to afhent to same regulations a a new production vehicle
jeeps005
And no more pop up headlights for pedestrians
WaterUnderTheRocketAppliances
And maybe proper cooling for the batteries
JimFromMarketing
???
jeeps005
Pop up headlights are no longer allowed on new cars for pedestrian's safety