Apply constitutional principles to the workplace. The bicameral legislature would have one chamber that represents employees and the other chamber represents stockholders. Corporate chief officers (the equivalent to the president and cabinet) would require the advice and consent of both chambers in some capacity.
Only way that would work is if the workers are investing in the company or they are getting paid a percentage of the company revenue. Otherwise you get stupid shit like "The union gets to decide who the company does business with without having any real economic stake in the game".
Unions are good, but they are there to protect the worker, not control the company.
My local ISP works that way, and not only is it the best ISP I’ve ever used, they keep increasing my speeds for the same price and give me refund checks every year.
We already got that. It's called a Cooperative. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative Works just fine, if the members are not ass-hats. Just like democracy in other cases.
Not exactly. The elected union doesn’t make workplace policies. Your job is still a top-down hierarchy, the union just gives you the ability to push back on those policies.
Sorta. I mean, not really Anarcho-syndicalists are sorta one of the major anarcho philosophies with Anarcho communism being the other major anarcho philosopy
I hate to tell you, that's kind of already what it is. Because most Democracies function as popularity contests. And most business will hire and promote the people they like more. Because most voters in democratic systems are not informed voters. What you actually want is for the work place to be a Meritocracy. Because then your effort and skill would be rewarded. So that only the most skilled and hardest workers would end up at the top.
Just because scumbags co-opt a term to push their bigotry doesn't mean that the actual ideology that name belongs to, not their warped racist version of it. Isn't what would make work places better. Actual meritocracy is a system that functions by promoting those who are good at their job, the ones who actually have the skills needed for the roles. It should ignore race, gender, age, family connection, friendships, and faith, and solely look at the workers skill and understanding of the work.
That's not how an actual meritocracy works. It is based on empirical data. So in a work place the people who are most productive and knowable would be the ones put in charge. What you are describing is Cronyism, which is how many businesses are actually run.
HeresYourSauce
How so? There are a lot of ways to implement this.
Clockworkdancerobot
Worker owned Co-ops.
RedOrbTalon
Apply constitutional principles to the workplace. The bicameral legislature would have one chamber that represents employees and the other chamber represents stockholders. Corporate chief officers (the equivalent to the president and cabinet) would require the advice and consent of both chambers in some capacity.
BigSwede7403
Only way that would work is if the workers are investing in the company or they are getting paid a percentage of the company revenue. Otherwise you get stupid shit like "The union gets to decide who the company does business with without having any real economic stake in the game".
Unions are good, but they are there to protect the worker, not control the company.
halfabubbleoff
We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune.
JamesFaction
Italy has a lot of co-ops. Worl really well
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lastmanonearthbutidroppedmyglasses
My local ISP works that way, and not only is it the best ISP I’ve ever used, they keep increasing my speeds for the same price and give me refund checks every year.
alt86er
We already got that. It's called a Cooperative. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative Works just fine, if the members are not ass-hats. Just like democracy in other cases.
PantsAreForTheWeek
That's a union...
lastmanonearthbutidroppedmyglasses
Not exactly. The elected union doesn’t make workplace policies. Your job is still a top-down hierarchy, the union just gives you the ability to push back on those policies.
PantsAreForTheWeek
Well said! I guess my union feels like the closest Im going to get to a democratic workplace, eh? I too suggest anyone who can join, or form, a union.
lastmanonearthbutidroppedmyglasses
This isn’t to say you shouldn’t join a union, or that unions are undemocratic.
PostalHeathen
What are you, some kind of syndicalist?
Az663
It's very similar to a communist, I gather, so maybe?
PostalHeathen
It's related to anarcho-communism.
BlindGardener
Sorta. I mean, not really Anarcho-syndicalists are sorta one of the major anarcho philosophies with Anarcho communism being the other major anarcho philosopy
WarThunderLeakedMySpecs
Bro, just let the spiders get married.
Targe0
I hate to tell you, that's kind of already what it is.
Because most Democracies function as popularity contests.
And most business will hire and promote the people they like more.
Because most voters in democratic systems are not informed voters.
What you actually want is for the work place to be a Meritocracy. Because then your effort and skill would be rewarded. So that only the most skilled and hardest workers would end up at the top.
tachyx
The word "merit" is very popular among fascists but it means something different.
Targe0
Just because scumbags co-opt a term to push their bigotry doesn't mean that the actual ideology that name belongs to, not their warped racist version of it. Isn't what would make work places better.
Actual meritocracy is a system that functions by promoting those who are good at their job, the ones who actually have the skills needed for the roles. It should ignore race, gender, age, family connection, friendships, and faith, and solely look at the workers skill and understanding of the work.
tachyx
Ultimately it comes down to who decides. Americans decided that Trump has merit. So whoever Trump decides has merit has merit.
Targe0
That's not how an actual meritocracy works.
It is based on empirical data.
So in a work place the people who are most productive and knowable would be the ones put in charge.
What you are describing is Cronyism, which is how many businesses are actually run.