That dog's speedometer was barely past 'leisurely jaunt.' Not to say that girl couldn't whoop my ass in a 100 meter sprint or 10K though. They both fast.
Yup, no other land animal can run as far as we can. Especially in warm weather. Animals doesn't marathons. Tools were great for taking us from scavenging to hunting.
You're right about the cadence, but a distance runner would look more relaxed than that. Top end marathon runners do 5 minute miles and look like they're doing a light jog. You wouldn't be able to do it for 26 miles if you were really pushing.
Full disclosure, she's way faster than me, and might be better at distance than me, too. But if so, this wasn't her distance stride. She's sprinting.
I read corgis can run 30 mph. I have a corgi and noticed it’s fast as shit. I will get ready to throw the ball and it is already there to catch it. And I heave it too.
Nah I could outrun our Yorkshire Terriers in both top speed and endurance. Although not in turning radius. And yorkies aren't even that slow, about 16kph or 25 kmh.
I have a little mix bread pup. She's less than a foot tall and stocky as hell, chest far bigger than her head etc. She is so fucking fast in short bursts. I play with her in the yard and she is lightning in short bursts. Doesn't look it, but she'll leave you in the dust.
For a little bit. I regularly run down my doberman when he escapes the house. Just gotta keep at it for 5 minutes and he literally can't run anymore, has to plop down and pant, hard completely immobile.
Dogs overheat after short bursts bc they cannot sweat, and the only way to cool off is to lie down and pant
Gotta keep in mind they're endurance runners adapted for the cold whereas we're endurance runners adapted for hot climates. In the climate they're adapted for they could keep up for quite a long time, potentially all day depending on the breed.
Comparable ultramarathons have been completed by humans faster. Also the Iditarod is hella cheating bc the limiting factor for dogs is overheating, which obviously doesn't happen there.
Some that run in loops. There's a transcendence something that's over 3k miles, and the average is around 60 miles a day. That is still less than the average Iditarod run, though.
Don't forget the the dogs eat like fucking kings during the Iditarod, like ten thousand calories a day or some equally absurd number. The energy they have is incomparable to your average dog, they're machines, and rather long-lived ones at that. Met an old sled dog that was eighteen, girl was blind but still spry.
Average distance per day on ultra endurance races like the self transcendence (which is on a flat road) are lower than average distance per day in the Iditarod.
Humans do stack up endurance tolerance a lot better than a lot of creatures. But if they're not sustaining it as a way of life and have time to recover from injuries and exhaustion, there are plenty of animals that can outpace us for a week or two.
After that our tolerances begin to tell. We can sustain it as a lifestyle.
Most humans can't run full tilt for long. But when we moderate that pace (and we're in good shape), holy shit does that persistence hunting history show its face.
Friend of mine, who is not an athlete, does not regularily go to gym or anything like that... He does these extreme runs that are 165km/100 miles in 24 hours. Here in Finland one is called "Nuts" and the track is 160km, i believe fastest was about 18 hours many did it in less than 20 hours, like my friend.
Top measured human speed is 27.5mph (unless someone's beaten Bolt there recently). The average over 100m is dragged down a decent bit by the fact that they start from zero and spend a decent chunk of the race accelerating and so doesn’t make for a fair comparison to someone else's top speed.
That's why, if your pet escapes or does a runner, you should never try to catch it by running after it. For one, it'll view it as either a game (and thus keep running) or be panicking (and thus keep running). We're persistence predators - we figured out a long, looooong time ago that however fast something can run, we can stroll after it for long enough that it burns out its energy reserves and can't even walk slowly away from us any longer.
Or otherwise offer them something they want more than they want to run, anyway. Walkies, a favorite toy, treats (especially something they don't often get), etc.
serleth
"Hey! Come back here! I have a toy! Stop!"
TalkingSnake
Would you care to throw the ball for me?
pfunk81
That dog's speedometer was barely past 'leisurely jaunt.' Not to say that girl couldn't whoop my ass in a 100 meter sprint or 10K though. They both fast.
cytherians
Doggo: "Wait, I have to tell you about a great way to save on car insurance!" 🐶😹
itrytoonlysaypositivethings
Related: "A Human on a Bicycle Is among the Most Efficient Forms of Travel in the Animal Kingdom" https://www.reddit.com/r/Urbanism/comments/1o92r60/a_human_on_a_bicycle_is_among_the_most_efficient/
Grimmrog
Dog: Where are you going? where are you going? where are we going?
unluckyandbored
First mistake was trying to outrun a border collie.
FortifiedWhine
First mistake was getting involved with a border collie and a ball...
sircowdog
You're not outrunning a working dog.
LittleLurker64
Always keep your dog on a leash! This is essential for everyone's safety. They could get in a car accident, for example
EmeRgencyDrD
So, once off leash dogs can drive, got it.
dingybasement350
"HEY GET BACK HERE YOU HAVE TO THROW THIS BALL!"
drdorman86350
Sheep don't herd themselves, don't you know.
BARP
Me too, dog. me too.
LebistusReticulatis
For a two feeter she is fast
SirSamuelVimesTheCat
Humans arn't built for speed. We're built for distance in hot climates.
Monkeyfighter
Are we? I feel like without a lot of extra tools and gear, we're not really meant for much.
SirSamuelVimesTheCat
Yup, no other land animal can run as far as we can. Especially in warm weather.
Animals doesn't marathons. Tools were great for taking us from scavenging to hunting.
EmeRgencyDrD
Once doggo caught up it was just strutting.
colesKittenBandit
THEY ARE RUNNING UPHILL!!!! AMAZING
SuperfluousMeh
This is funny, you can see the dog slow down when it gets to her LOL
WhatTheDuckIsGoingOn
Two legs good, four legs better.
circlebreaker
skyfishgur
i caught a girlfriend for you --- doggo, probably.
Clayman8
Hey! HEY LADY! HEY LOOK AT MY BALL! LADY, MY BALL. LOOK AT IT! ITS MINE!
4sambucas
Not shaming, but the way she runs looks like she's long distance runner, where if she was a sprinter, she would move her legs faster
DrewK98
You're right about the cadence, but a distance runner would look more relaxed than that. Top end marathon runners do 5 minute miles and look like they're doing a light jog. You wouldn't be able to do it for 26 miles if you were really pushing.
Full disclosure, she's way faster than me, and might be better at distance than me, too. But if so, this wasn't her distance stride. She's sprinting.
Appollon
True. Still would not make any difference to the dog.
4sambucas
Nope, she would just be a smitched further ahead
sekanna
The dog gave her a headstart
zHurk777
And could've zoomed past if it had a mind to.
DemSumBigAssRidges
And wasn't even trying to catch up!
tinydog
Even the wimpyest dog can outrun a human.
IhopeUgetwhatUvoted4
Teacup poodle? Mini winner dog?
tinydog
We had a toy poodle that got off-leash, and hauled ass up the road like 3x faster than I could run.
MegatronMustBeStopped
I can actually outrun my three-legged pitmix. But he's technically the mightiest, not the wimpiest, soooo...you're still correct I suppose.
ExogenousDataStructure
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bokodasu
I have a chihuahua. His top speed is about 6mph, which is also my top speed so we get along great. Most humans can outrun him, though.
Amandalorian
That looks like a border collie (potentially mix) they are one of the smartest and most agile dogs. I wouldn't underestimate them
Shaukhan12
Not a hot dog. I can out run them
furballsoffury
So can my cat
thegarts
I read corgis can run 30 mph. I have a corgi and noticed it’s fast as shit. I will get ready to throw the ball and it is already there to catch it. And I heave it too.
thegarts
I meant 30km.
thegarts
Greyhounds can run 45 mph.
pixelsnader
Nah I could outrun our Yorkshire Terriers in both top speed and endurance. Although not in turning radius. And yorkies aren't even that slow, about 16kph or 25 kmh.
LeftRightThere
Lampmonster
I have a little mix bread pup. She's less than a foot tall and stocky as hell, chest far bigger than her head etc. She is so fucking fast in short bursts. I play with her in the yard and she is lightning in short bursts. Doesn't look it, but she'll leave you in the dust.
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
We've bred some miserable little air dogs who can barely keep up with our average walking speed and are typically carried like a handbag.
ForlornHopeful
Or saddle them with easily fucked up hips\joints.
DocBenny
the dog equivalents of All Tomorrows style aberrations are outliers and shouldn't be counted when discussing dog capabilities
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
CheeseB0t
Well they have four legs and we only have two?
RyanSilver612
Millipedes have 1000 but I bet I could outrun them
CheeseB0t
That's just a scale issue.
If they were proportionately sized, I doubt it
LobotomyJones
I outran a doberman when I was 10 years old.
tinydog
Was it asleep?
shitheadtookmyname
For a little bit. I regularly run down my doberman when he escapes the house. Just gotta keep at it for 5 minutes and he literally can't run anymore, has to plop down and pant, hard completely immobile.
Dogs overheat after short bursts bc they cannot sweat, and the only way to cool off is to lie down and pant
Colopty
Gotta keep in mind they're endurance runners adapted for the cold whereas we're endurance runners adapted for hot climates. In the climate they're adapted for they could keep up for quite a long time, potentially all day depending on the breed.
bitemark
This is called Persistence Hunting and humans are uniquely adapted for it
RainierCamino
Ah but not many dogs can run as long as a human can.
Dasnekones
Under the right circumstance, no dog can keep up with a human. In fact, outside of birds or something, i dont think anyone can. Could be wrong though.
KiaOraFrog
Have you never seen dogs herding sheep or cattle?
LicensedAdHominem
It's a fairly silly notion. We started with wolves. They *can*. We domesticated wolves *because* they can.
We have simply genetically mutilated them over time as thanks
PorterPickUp
When its warm. Gets a little different in cold weather
unluckyandbored
Your average dog can definitely run farther than your average human. Vs a trained athlete? Much different story.
Colopty
Them being able to keep up with us on endurance front is a big reason we even domesticated wolves in the first place...
Hypothesist
NCPBullet
For this comment's consideration i present "The Iditarod"
InitHello
For many years I thought that was pronounced "idiot rod"
NCPBullet
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shitheadtookmyname
Comparable ultramarathons have been completed by humans faster. Also the Iditarod is hella cheating bc the limiting factor for dogs is overheating, which obviously doesn't happen there.
NCPBullet
The Iditarod is 1256 miles. There are comparable ultra marathons?
BishlamekGurpgork
Some that run in loops. There's a transcendence something that's over 3k miles, and the average is around 60 miles a day. That is still less than the average Iditarod run, though.
PandaPolishesPotatoes
Don't forget the the dogs eat like fucking kings during the Iditarod, like ten thousand calories a day or some equally absurd number. The energy they have is incomparable to your average dog, they're machines, and rather long-lived ones at that. Met an old sled dog that was eighteen, girl was blind but still spry.
NCPBullet
I have a family member that has a dog team and has done the Iditarod. Alaskan huskies are the best boys and girls
BishlamekGurpgork
Average distance per day on ultra endurance races like the self transcendence (which is on a flat road) are lower than average distance per day in the Iditarod.
Humans do stack up endurance tolerance a lot better than a lot of creatures. But if they're not sustaining it as a way of life and have time to recover from injuries and exhaustion, there are plenty of animals that can outpace us for a week or two.
After that our tolerances begin to tell. We can sustain it as a lifestyle.
shitheadtookmyname
False equivalence. You're doing average race versus maximum dog race. That's illogical
itsthevoiceman
Most humans can't run full tilt for long. But when we moderate that pace (and we're in good shape), holy shit does that persistence hunting history show its face.
Elrohn
Come the fuck on Gimli, we are gaining on them!
CaptainScarfish
Not to mention the calorie-hungry brain that can track an animal over long distances and days.
Hesterry
For sure. There are runners that can literally run for days without stopping. Nothing on the planet can run as long as a human. We're made for it
Ihug
And then there's huskies.
SergeyPrkl
Friend of mine, who is not an athlete, does not regularily go to gym or anything like that... He does these extreme runs that are 165km/100 miles in 24 hours. Here in Finland one is called "Nuts" and the track is 160km, i believe fastest was about 18 hours many did it in less than 20 hours, like my friend.
OverwhelmingSurplusOfDiggity
And when a trained athlete does those, the times are amazing.
I’m sitting in my parked car feeling sorry for myself right now, and thinking about those feats of strength is making me feel happy. Thanks, friendo.
override367
see thats why 1 guy can beat 100 gorillas, he just needs to move away from them until they die of a heart attack, its called kiting
itsthevoiceman
helps if he can cast snare, but that might be cheating
KittenInside
Notice how this dude was drawing half breaths through the ball. Flat out, most dogs achieve speeds faster than world class 100m sprinters.
OliWarner
~10m/s or 22mph is the fastest 100m average speed. The fastest dogs top out at 45mph and even a good chihuahua can manage 23mph over 100m.
nemocares
Top measured human speed is 27.5mph (unless someone's beaten Bolt there recently). The average over 100m is dragged down a decent bit by the fact that they start from zero and spend a decent chunk of the race accelerating and so doesn’t make for a fair comparison to someone else's top speed.
OliWarner
Granted, but so are the dogs ;) Taking this interspecies comparison a bit more seriously than intended, Bolt isn't accelerating much past 2s.
Rogahar
That's why, if your pet escapes or does a runner, you should never try to catch it by running after it. For one, it'll view it as either a game (and thus keep running) or be panicking (and thus keep running). We're persistence predators - we figured out a long, looooong time ago that however fast something can run, we can stroll after it for long enough that it burns out its energy reserves and can't even walk slowly away from us any longer.
Mairoa
The best thing to do is draw attention to yourself and run the other way
lpooptoomuch
best way to catch a dog is crouch and hold out a leash then say wanna go on a walk.
Rogahar
Or otherwise offer them something they want more than they want to run, anyway. Walkies, a favorite toy, treats (especially something they don't often get), etc.