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klean9
Stupid title.
henryferngibson
the map's coloring looks like a third grader's art project gone wrong
FreePalestineAndTheWorldFromIsrael
WackyWavingInflatableArmFlailingTubman
TO BE FAIR, a self hating jew is a stereotype
BigPLLL
Honest question. What % of Jewish people in the US support Isreal in all this?
leechdemon
It skews along political lines, and for the same reasons.
Every village has a fascist. 🤦♂️
ironymus
always remember Zionism ≠ Judaism:
BubblesTheFish
Not just beat, but absolutely fucking blasted him lmao.
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
2:1 ratioed to hell
HolyFreakingToast
this should be bigger news!
gtollie
I already assumed it was the most Jewish district in America… the 2 guys running both have bagel empires 😜
themuffulettaisalsoaverygoodsandwich
Einstein and Bruegger?
cousteau
Good.
mastikator
Equating anti-zionism with anti-semitism is anti-semetic, ipso facto Israel are anti-semetic
Thinkslowtalkfast
These are highly educated, liberal cosmopolitan jews.
Tobecontinued1992
The answer is yes. Look up five-ish and tell me thats not one of the most antisemitic things ever
MithrandirGi
Zionists have always targeted the Orthodox Jews
JohnSmithterms
*Anymore* ... because they were falling for it for 4 decades before that.
dawnkelly3160
It’s not the Jews, it’s the ZIONISTs
liveOffOfDownVotes
3/10 liberals still voted for a Zionist. Nothing to look forward to. US is dead move on.
FreePalestineAndTheWorldFromIsrael
You're not wrong. Zionism is a cancer.
mbus
This just in: not everyone in the US has a morally courageous stance.
baals
I miss america
Frencheeseater
Hello, due to your username, i hope it helps :
anononanonanona
The vast majority of zionists are evangelical christians, it’s part of their heretical death cult Armageddon fantasy. Hegseth is 100% in on it btw, there is video of him straight up giving a talk on it in a military context like it was just fucking facts.
Frencheeseater
This is fucking madness !
Hellseth : "Jeez-us told me to nuke Iran"
US Army : "are you sober ???"
Frencheeseater
Rest of the World : "WTF ???"
reformedxile
I have said it before, but many years ago there was this speaker at a church my parents brought me to and he was going on about how Palestine is not really a country ,it has no culture, how the Bible prophesied against it and how anyone that fought against Israel would lose...and this was just a small church on a side street, so I can't imagine how many people would have heard the same thing
SayonaraSally
The problem Israel faces is that the left despises them AND the right despises them, albeit for often very different reasons. There are still a handful of borderline retarded sheep in the moderate center that still fall for their propaganda but that number is getting lower and lower.
Einstein9073
Liberals hate Israel because of the genocide.
Republicans hate Israel because they are mostly Jews.
CrimsonPermanentAssurance
Republicans don't hate Israel itself, just the jews that make up Israel
SayonaraSally
I think there is some truth here, especially with the extreme right but overall the thing you've missed is money. A lot of the right are furious with the fact that American taxpayer money is being leeched from hard working people and sent to be used in a war between two non-Christian countries on the other side of the globe. They can also see now the reasons for it after seeing the Epstein files - its not about strategy but about pedos in the government that are bound by kompromat.
Hexidimentional
Most zionists are not semitic or jewish at all, its almost entirely evanjelical christians.
newsguycraigevans
A powerful and dangerous cabal
MrsHowVeryDareYou
All the loudest anti-Israel folks I know are Jewish. We want nothing to do with conflating Judaism and Zionism.
Jinxer13
They live in the cognitive dissonance of being right wingers with antisemitic tendencies and theological baggage about old and new testament stuff , but also loving the idea of an ethnostate opposing the brown muslim people in the heart of middle east. The latter though is a stronger motivation so you will often see christofascists support Israel more than Jewish americans. Weird world
shitheadtookmyname
The crazy thing is that Israel is majority brown people but the media and the West only ever shows the white Jews and it's most likely because if they showed the brown Jews the media knows that westerners would be less likely to side with them against Muslims. Pictures of the idf are particularly worth looking at: majority brown dudes I can't tell apart from Palestinians by looking, as a white westerner. But that's not who is on my TV.
TheMilliner
Christian Zionists and Jewish Zionists are not the same and should not be treated as such by any measure. Christian Zionism is a doomsday cult called as such because it wants Israel to exist as they believe it will end the world and cause the rapture/apocalypse. Jewish Zionism is completely different, being a european settler-colonial ideology centred around a (intentional) misinterpretation of Jewish texts saying that they should create an ethnostate in the Middle East for self-determinism.
QuantumInc
Well obviously there is the population of Israel. Zionist Jews already made the move. On the other hand, you are correct that there are a lot of evangelical christians, and I suppose anyone else who supports the colonial aspect.
Hexidimentional
9 million israelites vs 77 million americans alone
Larktonguesinadicecup
You're correct that the population of Israel has a large majority of Zionist Jews, but it is absolutely true that Zionist Jews are a very small percentage of zionism. There are at least 75 million Zionist Christians in the world, perhaps as many as 100 million, and only 15 million Jews in the world overall of any kind. Zionism is not a binary necessarily but let's just say I don't know, let's start the bidding at 75%. That's 11 million, so we're looking at Zionism being 20% Jewish at most
Larktonguesinadicecup
I would feel comfortable calling 80% a "vast majority", and saying that the vast majority of Zionists are Christians. Ergo, Zionism is primarily a Christian phenomenon.
Frencheeseater
A consequence of "Christian" persecution of the Jews since the Middle Ages, until the Shoah.
INeedMoreGifMeMoreJustOneMore
What does "the most Jewish district in America" mean? How big is the population of Jewish people compared to other demographics? What 'kind' of Jews, are they practicing, or just Jewish on paper?
TheMilliner
It’s functionally a non-stat and doesn’t really matter that much anyway, as the vast majority of other, much broader, polls and votes indicate a wide (70+%) support for Israel the nation and only marginally less support in the Jewish community for its genocide and ideology (not religion, specifically its ideology). The majority of Jewish people by a HUGE margin rally behind Israel and highlight its importance to their theocratic and personal identities, they’re only split about Israel’s actions
Zamerine
+-30% of NY10 is Jewish. There are no public stats about if they're practicing or not AFAIK. They're the second biggest religious demographic of the district after the unaffiliated.
INeedMoreGifMeMoreJustOneMore
Okay, that answers my question. It's a big enough group not to be circumvented in these numbers without EVERYONE else voting the opposite.
Tunica
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FNew_York%27s_12th_congressional_district&ved=0CAEQ1fkOahcKEwjA1JnOvKSVAxUAAAAAHQAAAAAQAg&opi=89978449
INeedMoreGifMeMoreJustOneMore
That only gives information about ethnicity.
NKato
That's the funky thing. Jewish/Hebrew is an ethnicity *and* a religion, and that annoys the fuck out of me, but I'm not going to give them hell for it.
INeedMoreGifMeMoreJustOneMore
Sure, but this is the Wikipedia ethnicity split:
65.2% White
14.1% Asian
11.2% Hispanic
4.7% Black
3.9% Two or more races
0.9% other
No mention of Jewish in either way.
DocNitro
This shows that just because someone happens to be a jew, they are not a piece of human waste.
The other way around, however - if someone happens to be an Israeli, chances are they are a waste of earth's resources.
KleptoKea
I was with you in the first half about not treating all Jews as Zionists. There are anti-zionist Israelis too, so lets just judge it on Zionism and not on whether they are Jewish, or happen to have been born in Israel.
hjf2011
the second part of his comment was incredibly racist and he didn't even realize it. to him, it was fine to say that. there is no difference between him and the people he says to hate.
CammunistManifesto
Confusing Israeli with zionist is like saying all Germans are nazis. Yes there's a large overlap but dont let that make you bigotted
MySushi
Evil prevails when good men do nothing.
There is a small percentage of Israeli citizens who actively protest against the war crimes, some are too afraid to act against a tyrannical government when they see the consequenece of what happens to dissidents.
Most however gladly serve their mandatory two years in the IDF, many go beyond for love of the job and high salary.
While there are punitive paths which exist to duck out of military service, you can't claim the populace largely wants peace
ThisNameIsMaybeTaken
Peace through victory!
CrimsonPermanentAssurance
Nazism was wildly popular in Germany at the time just like Zionism is a wildly popular in Israel. You cant assume but its a very good guess
NKato
Let me be clear. During World War 2, Germans were conflated with Nazis most of the time. Only luminaries like Albert Einstein didn't get called a Nazi because they were public figures who were against Nazism.
I get your point, but at this time, trying to be SPECIFIC, makes the road to fixing this shit a bit longer than it needs to be. Israelis by and large, are responsible for this shit - even the ones who didn't vote for Likud.
SalmonTheWise
Also, citizens of Germany were in the situation where the country they lived in for generations took sudden turn to Nazism and dismantled democracy without taking the input from population. Israel as a country was created by Zionists for Zionists, keeps electing Zionist leadership and anyone accepting their citizenship implicitly supports Zionism. They might be stupid, misguided or ignorant, but they're supporting it.
shitheadtookmyname
Let me be clear: almost everyone is Israel today is there BC that's the only citizenship they have, they were born there. There a difference between not wanting your country to disappear (Israeli) and thinking it has a right to Palestine and other territory (the kind of Zionism we should be upset about)
NKato
They have had multiple opportunities to reverse course over the last 50 years, and have clearly chosen not to.
NKato
OH AND, a lot of Israelis hold dual citizenship. So if they wanted to REALLY express their displeasure, even if their vote didn't matter, they could easily fuck off from Israel and relinquish their Israeli citizenship. If even 15% of the Israeli Jew population decided to return to the diaspora, it would absolutely make the government sit up and take notice.
Thorbane
I mean, being Jewish probably made it hard to conflate Einstein with the Nazis.
abeansits
I'm tired of this world...
Imademyselfsquirtle
I'm tired of the rapist pedophiles and bad shitty people they dont deserve this world.
reichstein
EatinButtsAndBustinNuts
Then let's fucking change it. Idk how, I'm just a middle aged dude from the Midwest. But I'm tired of it too. But let's let this percolate into rage and determination rather that despair. ✊️
Or do whatever, I'm not your boss. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Frencheeseater
Everyone can do its share, friend, here and there, now and later !
We are billions in the world craving for a change, for a sustainable future, for all !
MuffinProof
Stop this world, I want to get off.
Frencheeseater
Sorry, it's the only World we have.
The good news is that it can be made a better place, and YOU can be part of it !
Maryshik
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1dnBlbTY2aTFlN3I4eG01OHNwbTkwNzMxZnFxN3Z1eTR5ZmFhZG1vbyZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/KUAb8YQOhmWNq/200w.webp
Elkku
Hang in there...
Every Zohran Mamdani backed candidate won.
Orange shitstain is loosing ground fast.
People are starting to absolutely hate Israeli.
Ikwilstroopwaffels
And Russia is losing! Things are... looking up?!?! Dare we hope a bit?
alluro2
Market crash and huge depression (helped by AI market / layoffs) in 3...2...1...By the time we start to recover, climate change will be ramped up sufficiently to take over. And I'm an optimist usually...
Ikwilstroopwaffels
I know man, i know. I just want to live long enough to see Putin, Trump, and Bibi all get chucked into the clay.
Frencheeseater
100% agreed !
whiskeywonka
No hope for you! Next!!
GrimleyGraves
Hope Nazi speak-eth
whiskeywonka
I hope people got the reference and the sarcasm in which it was delivered.
Ikwilstroopwaffels
=(
OutboardOverlord
I am of the opinion that religion is a cancer. However, people are religious. I don't hate them. Jews are no exception. What Israel is doing is exactly the same that Hitler did to the jews during WW2. On a smaller scale, but still. Israel can go fuck itself, with its zionist "untermensch" view of Palestinians.
InTangier
There's the whole ethnic angle to judaism, though, considering it's not enough to just convert into the faith overnight because you feel like it. And Zionists play heavily into that, mixing it deeply with the religion until the "chosen people" is more secular in practice than religious to them. I mean it in the way it inform the lobbying and horrible policies. Religion seems to come second to the ethnicity.
It's fooling nobody, and their pet politicians and journalists are losing their shit.
SergeyPrkl
people aren't religious if you educate people properly.
anjeleyezjr
Hate the disease, don't hate the patient, unless the patient makes themselves worthy of your hate.
imyourrealdad
There is a cure for the disease yet people refuse to take the cure….i hate those people.
OutboardOverlord
exactly.
jasondeslin
As far as I'm aware, Nazis didn't have massive protests over the rights of death camp guards to rape Jews.
In fact, most Germans simply didn't believe the stories of what happened in those camps, and wouldn't have supported it. The Nazi government knew the people wouldn't support the crimes, because they actively arrested and executed Germans that tried telling people about it.
Israelis have video evidence, and actively support the genocide and all the atrocities with it.
Frencheeseater
This is insane, what happened to the "Menschkind" jews ? How did they get brainwashed that much to dishumanize their "enemies" that much ? There will be a price to pay, today only tRump's America is supporting Israel, and tomorrow ?
jasondeslin
Colonizers have to dehumanize the people they are stealing from, or else they might feel bad about doing it. Every people that colonized someone else's land have done the same thing. Political movements are never as evil, even if they preach racial supremacy. America did (and still does) the same thing to our natives. Just on a smaller scale now, because we already wiped them out in all but name. When natives are raped or abused, it doesn't even make the news.
Frencheeseater
From what i know from the French colonization from the 3rd Republic in the 19th Century, colonization was favored by political power for competition with Britain, Holland, Spain, Portugal and later Prussia, but there were 2 types of "colonizers" :
1/ the "exploiter", for profiteering from natives overseas
2/ the humanitarian, for helping (sometimes with a superiority feeling, but not always)
I've had some friends from Angola or New Caledonia sharing their XP that made me put in perspective this
WhiteyHead
People, as a whole, are also cancer.
Bleppo
The scale is smaller because there were fewer victims to start with
Cearnaigh
Personal belief is fine, as long as it stays personal.
Organize it and put someone in charge and it turns to shit.
As does anything that enables power over others - it attracts the worst people.
defensivebackhair
I'd argue the scale is much larger. We actually have no idea how many Israel killed. What we do know is that it's decades long, torture camps everywhere, mass graves, remnants of entire families are still buried under rubble, etc. Israel uses US weapons to level cities flat. Sure, there aren't gas chambers. But that's because Israel thinks it's too "kind" (there are statements that they think hitleryahu is too gentle on Palestine). They didn't just learn from Hitler, they strive to perfect it.
defensivebackhair
Religion is cancer. But like Hitler, this is motivated by pure hatred. Religion is just the mask they use to get away with their crimes. Most of their leaders aren't even Jewish. They just play the part because people follow them.
America's leaders aren't Christian. But they'll say whatever scripture they need to keep their flock in line. Zionists and Evangelicals are just two different flavors of Nazi
FreePalestineAndTheWorldFromIsrael
I'll never understand why people keeping thinking Genocide is purely religious.
Frencheeseater
Genocide is against an ethnic group, it's not religious basically.
If a religious minority is scapegoated, it's not the religion of the murderers ordering to kill, just their political leaders, prentending to act in the name of their God.
RockTheBackblast
Zionism isn't a religion though. It's a political movement.
homoerection
We really need to stop this. It’s absolutely about religion. Look at what the zionists are saying. They’re gods chosen people. It’s absolutely about religious supremacy
Skevoid
It's both. Christian Zionists are trying to get enough of the Jewish people into one place to trigger the literal biblical apocalypse... that's definitely a religion thing.
leechdemon
Christian politicians and Jewish politicians are working towards the same extemist goals. As extremists, it meets their religious goals. Zionism is the name of their shared extremist goal - but the goal isn't a religious tenant to anyone but the extremists.
Zionism is a religious thing, just like being anti-abortion or homophobic is a religious thing. 😂 It doesn't represent the religious values of the extremists who preach it.
Zionism is an extremist thing, not a religious thing.
RockTheBackblast
Yeah, that "biblical apocalypse" thing comes from the american version of Christianity that's attached to that particular brand of zionism. Zionism isn't a religion. It has no God, no doctimes of faith, no parables, no prayer, no places of worship, nothing about it that even remotely suggests it's a religion. It's 100% a violent political movement.
Atlasguitar
I thought the biblical apocalypse comes from the book of revelation which is Greek.
lalalalsblablabal
It’s a Jewish religious extremism. It is built around Jewish religion and identity and those fuckers are extremists.
RockTheBackblast
Except it doesn't have any Jewish faith doctrines, or any Jewish laws, or any Jewish parables, or any other piece of Judaism in it whatsoever. Zionists don't pray unless it's in public for appearances or manipulation, they don't even eat kosher for pete's sake. It's no more a religion than atheism or neonazism are.
leechdemon
Except, as the guy you're commenting to just said - it's not.
American politicians aren't protecting Israel because of Jewish extremism - American politicians are Christian, they're protecting Israel because Christian extremism is aligning with Jewish extremism.
Zionism is the alliance, which has everything to do with fascism and nothing to do with anybody's God.
mieper3
I am of the opinion that religion is a hammer. Some use it to bash in skulls, others use it to build houses.
The difference is not the tool, but the person using it.
Selfawerewolf
I agree except for it to be an effective tool it has to convince a bunch of people it is far far more than a tool and that they should base their lives around a lot of fiction in order to make the tool work. Like if a power drill ran off of collective human belief that fairies charged the battery.
Thinkslowtalkfast
Religion is like a craft or an art: one can practice it at amateur levels or mature levels. At expert levels it yields the wisest human beings, at kindergarten levels its fruits are disastrous. The world these days knows mostly the immature, kindergarten variety, both in Christian and in Islam: a tribal, reactionary, dogmatic, loveless, bloodthirsty bunch fearful reading texts literally. But mature varieties do certainly exist, although it's hard to believe.
Zarick
Just call them what they are, Heretics. Although perhaps at this point it is the other way around. *sigh*
CrimsonPermanentAssurance
In most human societies thru time, the Ruling Class has used the Priestly Class to maintain power over the Working Class. Religion is a system of control
Aranon1183
I am of the opinion that religion is like a penis. It's great if you have one! It's great that you love it! But, please, don't whip it out in public. And, please, don't shove it down my kids' throats!
Frencheeseater
... and you surely can live without it, ask lesbian women !
Thanks for your metaphor, it made my day ! Peace & respect to every decent people !4
robpaschal
Those home builders would build without religion. For skull bashing to be acceptable takes religion.
Frencheeseater
You can find a lot of examples in History when people from the same religion killed each other eagerly... Religion can be a pretext, a way of manipulation, but also a source of hope and philosophy of life, depending on the "giver" and "receiver".
Martin Luther King Jr was a Pastor, and he preached fighting for equal rights through non-violence...
CrimsonPermanentAssurance
I think what you meant to say was that he preached Direct Action and Civil Disobedience
Frencheeseater
Yes ! Thanks ! I think the best way of winning against a stronger opponent is not through direct violent confrontation, but through other, smarter means. Gandhi achieved independence over the UK using Civil Disobedience and Boycott, and it worked. Guerilla warfare can only succed with foreign support, but then it will be beholden of foreign interests.
robpaschal
Exactly. Religion doesn't have to be different. It just has to plant the seed of hate and anger.
You found one example. You know how many examples of the opposite I can find? Let me just check my news feed. There will be plenty.
Frencheeseater
Of course, but can you fight hate & anger with more hate & anger ? Especially if it has been built for a long time on the opposite side. At one moment, i think it is smart to confuse the enemy : he deshumanized you, prove him wrong ! He thinks you are weak, well just look how the Iran War turned to be...