I haven't seen or heard anyone say anything bad about Jews since the 40s. It's killing innocent ppl we are against. What religion they adhere to is irrelevant.
you know there seriously have to start being some ramifications for motherfuckers doing things that are “against international law” because I feel like they’re starting to get the message that international law doesnt exist
The motherfuckers BOAST about committing genocide...
This shitstain is Itamar Ben-Gvir, Israel's Minister of National Security. He should feel a lot less secure 24/7/365.
Yes, Jewis lives matters - on level with everybody else. So, ask yourself, schmuck at the end, does anyone elses life matter to you?
I'm gradually getting so fugging tired of hearing everybody being called antisemit, if you raise even a tiny ounce of concern regarding the current Isralien regime. Yes, regime. I'm not antisemit if I disagree with a government - i'm anti their policy. I don't automatically hate all jews all over the world for the action taking place in Israel thes days. 1)
2) Why the heck would I? I don't detest all Americans either though I'm disgusted by Trump. Is that really so hard to understand? Two thoughts in your head at the same time regarding a matter a little more complex that the colour of your turds when you take a dump.
Yea, antisemitism IS on the rise. Because Isreal is doing this shit and trying to use Judaism as a shield. Unfortunately, too many people are dumb as fuck and buy into that shit, which Isreal absolutely wants.
Israel WANTS antisemitism to rise. They want to use it to justify "protecting" themselves.
There are good Jewish people out there who are going to get hurt because of Isreal. We need to promote that Isreal does NOT speak for all jews, no matter how hard they claim otherwise.
Zionism is an essential part of Jews just like Nazism is an essential part of Germans. No it fucking isn't. It's just a political movement, and needs to be thrown in the trash can of history.
Zionism is not a religion. Zionism is based on ethnicity and race. Zionism often pretends to be a religion so it can use the protections of religions under the law. But it's NOT a religion. It's on thinking the Jewish race is genetically better than any other race.
This is why I can't love Mamdani. He could have stopped the land sale but he didnt. He can't arrest Netanyahu. Not without Trump sending in the national guard. But he could have shut down the land sale.
I haven't given up hope on Mamdani, but he has compromised way more than the other side has.
What do you mean he could have stopped the land sale? What do you want him to do, send in the police to arrest a bunch of Zionists? He'd be dead in a week.
"send in the police to arrest a bunch of Zionists?"
Yes. The land sales are explicitly illegal and he has the power to send in the police. When he was campaigning, he said he'd have Netanyahu arrested if he stepped foot in NYC, even though the US isn't in the ICC. That's the bar Mamdani set for himself to get people to vote for him. But now that he got the votes and is in power, he won't even enforce US laws these Zionazis are breaking.
This shit is why we're all falling into fascism. We don't expect politicians to DO anything. We scoff at the notion that they should do anything. We should just be happy with them saying pretty words while allowing the evil to persist without any material challenge because doing anything more is scary. Fascists use their power.. When "anti"-fascists get power, they're afraid to challenge fascists.
If he wasn't willing to make these hard choices, he shouldn't have lied on the campaign trail.
Zionism is not a religion. Zionism is based on ethnicity and race. Zionism often pretends to be a religion so it can use the protections of religions under the law. But it's NOT a religion. It's on thinking the Jewish race is genetically better than any other race.
I care because I want to know if there is a way to come to an agreement. I want to know what their core reason is to do what they do. But when a group of people think they are GENETICALLY superior... then you cant negotiate with them. They will never respect you. You cant make deals with them because they are convinced they dont need to stick to the deal since they are superior. "Why would I negotiate with an ant?" We didnt negotiate with the Nazis when they thought they were the superior race.
“It’s illegal under international law.” Okay, do something about it. A law isn’t a law if it doesn’t get enforced. That statement and a strongly worded letter wouldn’t even get you a coffee these days.
I believe International law, war crimes, etc., was made as a pretence to hang the most unprofitable Nazis and Imperial Japanese after the war, (while they paperclipped the useful ones) because they needed to whitewash Germany and Japan because they wanted to rebuild and rearm them to face the Soviets. I don’t believe I’ve seen it enforced ever since.
So were any former administrations, but this one just gave them a Middle Eastern buffet. The thing is, what did every other administration think they were going to do with all those weapon stockpiles and tech? Letting them get away with, reportedly, spying and stealing even US tech. Turning a blind eye to the Israeli nuclear weapons program.
Even without Epstein dirt, that absolute moron would have no chance of holding back that rabid dog after years of wanting the Greater Israel lunacy.
International law is a myth that doesn't exist as there is no enforcement arm of the UN. Personally, I think the UN should be moved to Israel and put in charge of the two countries. Additionally, each member of the UN would need to send 1000 (?) troops each to create a UN army to enforce international law.
that is exactly the point, to exhaust you so you stop resisting. If listening to them exhausts you, don't listen to them at all. You already know they are monsters and that anyone banding with them are accomplices in their crimes. You don't need to keep checking at the expense of your mental health. Focus on resisting their actions, not engaging with their words.
Uneducated is the key to the rest. However, religion (at least the three Abrahamic ones) prefer their minions uneducated as it's much harder to control the educated, so gladly causing that issue.
Zionism is not a religion. Zionism is based on ethnicity and race. Zionism often pretends to be a religion so it can use the protections of religions under the law. But it's NOT a religion. It's on thinking the Jewish race is genetically better than any other race.
You're wrong, zionism is the extremist part of judaist religion. There is not a "jewish race", there's a bunch of different tribes with different origins, all of them having judaism is common. Zionists believe they are the chosen ones, thus anyone else than a jew is not seen as human, and they want what was "promised" to them at any cost (a land, for the jews, only the jews). You can convert into it and go happily live over there with no problem (especially if you're white, because jew arabs
Jewishness is an ethnoreligious identity, Judaism is a religion, and Zionism is a political-national ideology. There are lots of anti-Zionist Jews. And the vast majority of Zionists (>90%) are actually Christian Zionists. There are, in fact, more Zionist Christians in America than there are Jews in the whole world.
But there are Zionists and 'Zionists'. Zionists think the Jews are a genetically superior race. The Christian 'Zionists' dont give a fuck about Israel, they want Israel to become a Zionist state, THAT will usher in the 2nd coming of Jesus who will destroy Zion (either the Jews will convert to Christianity or they're fucked).
You can convert to Judaism but if you're not a Jew, you will never be accepted by Zionists. If you're a Jew, but do not practise Judaism, you can easily be accepted by Zionists. The fact they will not accept you if you're not a Jew is proof that Zionism is based on race. Sure, if you believe the faith thats nice as well, but it's not a requirement. Being a Jew IS a requirement.
yeah, that do not contradict what i said. Zionists want everyone to thinks that criticizing their religious extremism is the same as criticizing being jew, they want to make it so that any critic against them akin to antisemitism. Imagine is al qaeda said that any critic against them is the same as being anti muslims.
This is what I mean. Zionists desperately want to conflate the religion with their ethno nationalistic ideas because then suddenly a LOT more Jewish people are 'Zionists' and critisizm becomes a LOT harder.
You both are having a semantics battle that misses the point. Zionism is just a justification for colonialism that wraps ethnicity AND religion together to help justify the unjustifiable. The roots are theft through murder. Your arguments are coming at this as if the idea created the behavior but the idea exists to justify the behavior.
No you're very wrong. It's important to understand what Zionism is based on. It's based on genetic superiority. It's important to understand that because you need to realize you can NEVER live as equals with that ideology, because they see themselves as suprior. If you're not of the Jewish race, you can convert to Judaism but you will never be accepted by Zionists. You are genetically inferior. And from that perspective they rationalize things like genocide, stealing etc etc, because 1/2
they are killing an inferior race. They are stealing from inferior people. You are not a human being. If you walk down the street you crush bugs under your feet. Not because you want to but thats just how it is. Zionists think the same. That house on the West Bank is mine, because nobody is living there (even though it;s occupied by Palestinians). It's natural for me to take the house. It's my right as a superior being. What is the problem? You have no problem crushing bugs when you walk, 2/3
Case in point, Israel wasn't even the Zionists only or first pick when considering where there "Homeland" would be. I believe Brazil was one of the locations considered.
That only proves my point. If Zionism was heavy on the religious side, they would not have considered ANY other place than the current region. But as you said, multiple other places were considered as possibilities.
Hatlled
Sorry- can't hear you over the screams of children being genocided in Gaza, freaks.
ironymus
Rihn
I haven't seen or heard anyone say anything bad about Jews since the 40s. It's killing innocent ppl we are against. What religion they adhere to is irrelevant.
FreeRangeToast
you know there seriously have to start being some ramifications for motherfuckers doing things that are “against international law” because I feel like they’re starting to get the message that international law doesnt exist
Resistance1000
The motherfuckers BOAST about committing genocide...
This shitstain is Itamar Ben-Gvir, Israel's Minister of National Security. He should feel a lot less secure 24/7/365.
Simusar
Anti-Israel =/= antisemitism
ChazzK
I say again: "Israel" and "Jewish" are not synonyms. No matter how much Zionists want to make you think they are.
pacanukeha
yes, all that, but mostly it's an insult to the Palestinians
PlainlyPuzzled
Yes, Jewis lives matters - on level with everybody else. So, ask yourself, schmuck at the end, does anyone elses life matter to you?
I'm gradually getting so fugging tired of hearing everybody being called antisemit, if you raise even a tiny ounce of concern regarding the current Isralien regime. Yes, regime. I'm not antisemit if I disagree with a government - i'm anti their policy. I don't automatically hate all jews all over the world for the action taking place in Israel thes days. 1)
PlainlyPuzzled
2) Why the heck would I? I don't detest all Americans either though I'm disgusted by Trump. Is that really so hard to understand? Two thoughts in your head at the same time regarding a matter a little more complex that the colour of your turds when you take a dump.
Illinifan88
Yea, antisemitism IS on the rise. Because Isreal is doing this shit and trying to use Judaism as a shield. Unfortunately, too many people are dumb as fuck and buy into that shit, which Isreal absolutely wants.
Israel WANTS antisemitism to rise. They want to use it to justify "protecting" themselves.
There are good Jewish people out there who are going to get hurt because of Isreal. We need to promote that Isreal does NOT speak for all jews, no matter how hard they claim otherwise.
EmeRgencyDrD
Fuck Israel
Resistance1000
Aranon1183
Out of all the Abrahamic religions, I respect proper Judaism the most. Islam is second, and I don't respect Christianity at all.
MentalFest
You’d think with such unprecedented levels of antisemitism they’d be able to give at least one example
orp0piru
Zionism is an essential part of Jews just like Nazism is an essential part of Germans.
No it fucking isn't.
It's just a political movement, and needs to be thrown in the trash can of history.
OtisTDrunk
IliveIdyeIliveagain
My load says Israel is our land. Can I have it?
GrandmasterSpank
Zionism is not a religion. Zionism is based on ethnicity and race. Zionism often pretends to be a religion so it can use the protections of religions under the law. But it's NOT a religion. It's on thinking the Jewish race is genetically better than any other race.
tinydog
Jizzrael
Zammurkele
uhh..ok. so they're selling plots in israel and in gaza? kk.
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
Yup. Selling stolen land. Lebensraum by another name.
thisisnotfineffs
Yes, that's a bad thing
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
This is why I can't love Mamdani. He could have stopped the land sale but he didnt. He can't arrest Netanyahu. Not without Trump sending in the national guard. But he could have shut down the land sale.
I haven't given up hope on Mamdani, but he has compromised way more than the other side has.
slinkiisu
What do you mean he could have stopped the land sale? What do you want him to do, send in the police to arrest a bunch of Zionists? He'd be dead in a week.
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
"send in the police to arrest a bunch of Zionists?"
Yes. The land sales are explicitly illegal and he has the power to send in the police. When he was campaigning, he said he'd have Netanyahu arrested if he stepped foot in NYC, even though the US isn't in the ICC. That's the bar Mamdani set for himself to get people to vote for him. But now that he got the votes and is in power, he won't even enforce US laws these Zionazis are breaking.
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
This shit is why we're all falling into fascism. We don't expect politicians to DO anything. We scoff at the notion that they should do anything. We should just be happy with them saying pretty words while allowing the evil to persist without any material challenge because doing anything more is scary. Fascists use their power.. When "anti"-fascists get power, they're afraid to challenge fascists.
If he wasn't willing to make these hard choices, he shouldn't have lied on the campaign trail.
OtisTDrunk
Instead Of Small Violin.......
MrsHowVeryDareYou
All the loudest anti-Zionists I know personally are Jewish. Netanyahu doesn’t speak for us us and we resent that he’s looping us into his genocide.
RigidGristle
imguronefive
I would up-doot, but quoting Tucker Carlson (even if he is speaking sensibly on this one issue, at this one moment in time) so a no-go for me.
toolzgalore2
Yeah....... Still fuck Israel I don't give a FUCK what land you think you have a claim to from a book that some jackass wrote
GrandmasterSpank
Zionism is not a religion. Zionism is based on ethnicity and race. Zionism often pretends to be a religion so it can use the protections of religions under the law. But it's NOT a religion. It's on thinking the Jewish race is genetically better than any other race.
an0therthr0waway
sensibiledrunkmageapprentice
I don't give a shit about either. A cunt is a cunt no matter what they hide behind.
GrandmasterSpank
I care because I want to know if there is a way to come to an agreement. I want to know what their core reason is to do what they do. But when a group of people think they are GENETICALLY superior... then you cant negotiate with them. They will never respect you. You cant make deals with them because they are convinced they dont need to stick to the deal since they are superior. "Why would I negotiate with an ant?" We didnt negotiate with the Nazis when they thought they were the superior race.
Mmbear
“It’s illegal under international law.” Okay, do something about it. A law isn’t a law if it doesn’t get enforced. That statement and a strongly worded letter wouldn’t even get you a coffee these days.
ToSisPoS
I believe International law, war crimes, etc., was made as a pretence to hang the most unprofitable Nazis and Imperial Japanese after the war, (while they paperclipped the useful ones) because they needed to whitewash Germany and Japan because they wanted to rebuild and rearm them to face the Soviets. I don’t believe I’ve seen it enforced ever since.
Frankasti
https://www.icc-cpi.int/cases
Frankasti
The US is not a member of the ICC. They won't enforce its laws. And that's why this is happening in the US.
ReggieWarrhol
The current administration is so tied up with Israel, they won't allow the laws to be enforced.
InTangier
So were any former administrations, but this one just gave them a Middle Eastern buffet. The thing is, what did every other administration think they were going to do with all those weapon stockpiles and tech? Letting them get away with, reportedly, spying and stealing even US tech. Turning a blind eye to the Israeli nuclear weapons program.
Even without Epstein dirt, that absolute moron would have no chance of holding back that rabid dog after years of wanting the Greater Israel lunacy.
BarryTheCyborg
International law is a myth that doesn't exist as there is no enforcement arm of the UN. Personally, I think the UN should be moved to Israel and put in charge of the two countries. Additionally, each member of the UN would need to send 1000 (?) troops each to create a UN army to enforce international law.
MelfsAcidArrow
JC Denton and UNATCO need to exist irl
newwoolmonosta
that last schmuck- yeah the whiny Zionist- he ought to listen to the sensible, good hearted Hasidic man at the start of the video.
SecondSince
'People' like that last idiot need their head caved in!
ReggieWarrhol
The Hasidic gent, was bang on.
newwoolmonosta
absolutely
jenoween
This. It's exhausting listening to them conflate antisemitism with anti-genocide.
Isosyn
that is exactly the point, to exhaust you so you stop resisting. If listening to them exhausts you, don't listen to them at all. You already know they are monsters and that anyone banding with them are accomplices in their crimes. You don't need to keep checking at the expense of your mental health. Focus on resisting their actions, not engaging with their words.
Unclescam
I'd bet my entire bank account he's lying or simply wrong.
newwoolmonosta
who do you mean?
Unclescam
The last guy claiming there's been a huge spike in anti Jewish hate crime in NYC.
newwoolmonosta
gotcha
SomebodythatIusedtonope
Zionism is a cancer like EVERY religious extremisms,
Goldensands
Every. Single. Religion. All of them. Living with a dishonest, intellectual disconnect with reality is not healthy. Not OK.
GuntherG
Uneducated is the key to the rest.
However, religion (at least the three Abrahamic ones) prefer their minions uneducated as it's much harder to control the educated, so gladly causing that issue.
GrandmasterSpank
Zionism is not a religion. Zionism is based on ethnicity and race. Zionism often pretends to be a religion so it can use the protections of religions under the law. But it's NOT a religion. It's on thinking the Jewish race is genetically better than any other race.
Shoutrr
You're wrong, zionism is the extremist part of judaist religion. There is not a "jewish race", there's a bunch of different tribes with different origins, all of them having judaism is common. Zionists believe they are the chosen ones, thus anyone else than a jew is not seen as human, and they want what was "promised" to them at any cost (a land, for the jews, only the jews). You can convert into it and go happily live over there with no problem (especially if you're white, because jew arabs
Shoutrr
are seen as second class citizen, because they look too much like palestinians).
purpledd
Jewishness is an ethnoreligious identity, Judaism is a religion, and Zionism is a political-national ideology. There are lots of anti-Zionist Jews. And the vast majority of Zionists (>90%) are actually Christian Zionists. There are, in fact, more Zionist Christians in America than there are Jews in the whole world.
GrandmasterSpank
But there are Zionists and 'Zionists'. Zionists think the Jews are a genetically superior race. The Christian 'Zionists' dont give a fuck about Israel, they want Israel to become a Zionist state, THAT will usher in the 2nd coming of Jesus who will destroy Zion (either the Jews will convert to Christianity or they're fucked).
GrandmasterSpank
You can convert to Judaism but if you're not a Jew, you will never be accepted by Zionists. If you're a Jew, but do not practise Judaism, you can easily be accepted by Zionists. The fact they will not accept you if you're not a Jew is proof that Zionism is based on race. Sure, if you believe the faith thats nice as well, but it's not a requirement. Being a Jew IS a requirement.
an0therthr0waway
Shoutrr
yeah, that do not contradict what i said. Zionists want everyone to thinks that criticizing their religious extremism is the same as criticizing being jew, they want to make it so that any critic against them akin to antisemitism. Imagine is al qaeda said that any critic against them is the same as being anti muslims.
GrandmasterSpank
This is what I mean. Zionists desperately want to conflate the religion with their ethno nationalistic ideas because then suddenly a LOT more Jewish people are 'Zionists' and critisizm becomes a LOT harder.
CliffWestern
You both are having a semantics battle that misses the point. Zionism is just a justification for colonialism that wraps ethnicity AND religion together to help justify the unjustifiable. The roots are theft through murder. Your arguments are coming at this as if the idea created the behavior but the idea exists to justify the behavior.
GrandmasterSpank
No you're very wrong. It's important to understand what Zionism is based on. It's based on genetic superiority. It's important to understand that because you need to realize you can NEVER live as equals with that ideology, because they see themselves as suprior. If you're not of the Jewish race, you can convert to Judaism but you will never be accepted by Zionists. You are genetically inferior. And from that perspective they rationalize things like genocide, stealing etc etc, because 1/2
GrandmasterSpank
they are killing an inferior race. They are stealing from inferior people. You are not a human being. If you walk down the street you crush bugs under your feet. Not because you want to but thats just how it is. Zionists think the same. That house on the West Bank is mine, because nobody is living there (even though it;s occupied by Palestinians). It's natural for me to take the house. It's my right as a superior being. What is the problem? You have no problem crushing bugs when you walk, 2/3
CliffWestern
Case in point, Israel wasn't even the Zionists only or first pick when considering where there "Homeland" would be. I believe Brazil was one of the locations considered.
GrandmasterSpank
That only proves my point. If Zionism was heavy on the religious side, they would not have considered ANY other place than the current region. But as you said, multiple other places were considered as possibilities.