The picture is AI obviously and this is very common these days. Make sure you are using the google app on your phone to reverse image search the product photos if you are buying something advertised on social media and the price is too good to be true
My accidentally favorite hoodie is from there. I bought a thick cable knit sweater, and a hoodie arrived with a printed pattern of a thick cable knit sweater. I wear it, it's funny, it's a great story. But yeah definitely not the intended product.
@KenKorte This is fraud, report it to whichever payment processor you used to make the purchase. Request that they reverse the transaction by reason of misrepresentation/fraud by the company. It doesn't always work, but if you can convince a credit card company or bank to give a fuck about it, the company pulling that shit is going to have to start giving a shit about at least your purchase and the refund thereof.
A scam, for sure. But I do think it's salvageable. With the right stitches here and there and some stuffing and roughening, you may end up with something close to what you ordered. Hopefully it came one or two sizes too large for that to be made.
I went all DIY in my mind on it too…loose rauching (roo-shin) stitch for the mouth, bush stitch around the eyes with red on the inner aspect to add depth…blanket stitch on the cuffs…
Yeah I'm not gonna say the same stuff the other people said, you know what you did. But I do have two questions - first, is it just a print on a hoodie? Second, does it smell funny?
This has nothing to do with truth in advertising. It's a scam site, plain and simple. They pop up, sell, shut down, and pop up again under a new name too fast for much to be done. Just about every (if not every) image on the site is Ai-generated. Even the name "coyboyhood.com" should be a red flag as a cheap nonsense domain name. Site like this are as old as the internet. Good rule of thumb: I you see a $300 sweater for $37 from a foreigh-hosted site that is less than a year old, its a scam.
It literally has everything to do with truth in advertising. That's the entire point. Sites like this should be a rarity but they're everywhere, and that's because the government doesn't do anything about it.
Which government? Do What? These aren't legitimate companies. There's no business license to trace, no audit trail, no real address. These kinds of sites are up and down before regulators can receive enough complaints to initiate an investigation, much less do anything about it, especially when they are offshore. The government can't protect you from everything. Sometimes, it falls to your own due diligence to protect yourself.
Nobody said you shouldn't do your own due diligence, jackass. This crap is everywhere now and it doesn't have to be. That's my only point. Good christ.
/gallery/i-crocheted-baba-yagas-hut-1jslDw8 the top comment is one of these scams, upvoted repeatedly to the top by a brigade of not accounts. It's Ben reposted by different user names repeatedly (check all the deleted comments at the bottom).
Showed my wife the site, and she pointed out a really cool dress, and asked "How much is that one?" "$37" Her response: "OH FUCK NO. THAT'S A SCAM! THAT DRESS WOULD BE AT LEAST A HUNDRED DOLLARS!"
You're one of the good ones. I've seen knitters underprice by that much though. Tbh if you could speed knit this one wouldn't be bad. A little ribbing, 20 rows of cables, and some weird castoffs/grafting. But you're right, it would take a bit still.
I had a similar issue, bought a fast cat wheel (basically a hamster wheel for cats) for a suspiciously good price. Late night justification that it was plastic not wood which is why it's cheaper but in the end it was no delivery and the website was down a few days later after no replies to emails when past the estimated delivery date. At least I used a digital disposable card which was something
Know any knitters that are fond of you? A good one could reproduce this just from the picture tbh. It's pretty easy and in a big enough yarn to count rows. Could be a fun challenge.
To me it looks like they advertised the hand knitted prototype and then converted it for extra shitty machine knitting to make the product. Bobbles and irregular castoffs-easy for hand knitters, tough for machines. Or they just charted it in one standard key and set the machine to another. That's a funny idea.
PLEASE don't let it lie, you're only creating problems for future consumers. Return it and if they won't return it do a chargeback on your card. The images in this post are enough for any company to do the chargeback instantly.
scam shops like these don't have a return address and if they do it's in china and you have to pay the shipping costs. So a chargeback is the only option!
The only thing that sticks out to me is that it would be next to impossible for a machine to make the details on the arms. But I only know that because I am a crocheter and dabble in knit. The average person wouldn’t realize that
You're victim blaming. That photo isn't obviously AI. Good for you to be able to see it, but not only is that not obvious, AI is advancing faster than people can protect themselves. Last year you could count fingers. Now it's "looking for folds where you wouldn't usually see them"? C'mon, scammers are getting better faster than consumers can counter. Blame the people who are actually at fault.
Dont feel bad bud. We've all been scammed 1 or 2 times in our lives. Its just a fact of it. Moreso now than ever with the use of AI. Just be more aware and suspicious of every website or 3rd party retailer you've never heard of than ever.
Exactly. As soon as I saw the price, I knew it couldn't be real. You can't just have a knitting machine fire something like that off, it's going to take manual labour to make the design itself. Usually the only manual parts are sewing pieces together, but those rough raggedy holes can't be made on a machine. A human wlll have to do it, which is way more manual work than a normal sweater.
The frays and distressed holes look “perfectly messy” in a way that’s hard to reproduce with real knitting, and the knit texture is too even in areas where it should be stretched/warped. Other images from the site are more obvious AI renders, but I highly doubt any of the images on that site are real
OC is just visiting us from r/iamverysmart. It's not over the top blatant, in fact I couldn't even say it's artificial, but that's just me. But that's all besides the point - it's not consumers' responsibility to begin with.
Go check out the site...all of the images are AI-generated. Some more blatant than others, but if you know WHAT a knit sweater like this SHOULD look like, it's obvious. Jut not to the untrained eye. Just typing in the website name in google gives scam alerts. Search on Bing and the top 10 results after the actual website are all scam alerts. And, it is the consumer's responsibility to buy from reputable stores. This place is a scam up and down: https://malwaretips.com/blogs/cowboyhood-com-scam/
The frays and distressed holes look “perfectly messy” in a way that’s hard to reproduce with real knitting, and the knit texture is too even in areas where it should be stretched/warped. Other images from the site are more obvious AI renders, but I highly doubt any of the images on that site are real
It's not blatantly obvious, but look at the weird patterns on the sleeves and shoulders that are different on both sides. This would be really difficult to knit, nevermind mass-produce. Asymmetric, strangely organic looking patterns are typical for generative AI (see also the jeans pockets and belt). Also typical: too many skin lines / folds in places where you wouldn't expect them, like the neck
Those knit patterns could be mocked by knitting a cord and sewing it on top of the knit sleeve. So it's possible. Not for the price posted, though. The skin is a better example.
There are other images on that site that are far more blatant. But, the fact than any of this stuff is under $42, should be your biggest red flag. The sweater OP bought alone, is easily $200-$300 if it was real
Fuck that individual responsibility bullshit. Not everyone should have to be hyper aware of all the scams going on at all times. You should be able to buy things without worrying its a scam and not everyone is as good as you at recognizing them and that doesnt mean they deserve to lose their money. Its the SCAMMER’S fault. Not their victims
Aw man, I'm glad you posted that though. As a knitter who used to spend all my time making and designing advanced patterns with non-traditional methods, the engine just turned over for the first time in years. My brain is going crazy with "Wonder how close I could get if I used cables or short rows or knots or intarsia or..." Thanks!
The OP post is possible, yeah. Knit the initial ombre sweater. Cut open the holes for the eyes - you'd have to sew around the holes in matching thread so they don't unravel past your sewn line. Inside the line you can unravel them and if it's wool you can burn the ends to make it look cool. The messed-up cabling on shoulders and forearms could be mocked up using an i-cord (knitted cord) and then you can just sew it on top of the knitted surface in whatever crazy patterns you want (the ones /1
shown aren't possible with cable-knitting, although you could come up with something similar that's possible). The mouth you could also add on later, with picking up some stitches and knitting across the mouth line in a rib pattern for one or two rows. Picking up too few stitches for the width would also cause that puckering for the mouth. And then just knit a big red rectangle and sew it under the eyeholes. Definitely could be done (or something very close), definitely not for the price shown.
CrumpetsWithHoneyAreCrumpetsWithBeeVomit
I mean really is it that much difference for something you're going to wear to a party? Once?
Ohdearaudrey
The picture is AI obviously and this is very common these days. Make sure you are using the google app on your phone to reverse image search the product photos if you are buying something advertised on social media and the price is too good to be true
PapaJoeNH
https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1Nmo4Znc3ZmswenNuYWZmaGZkOG1ndzhwZ2Fwa2QyaW5neG83Z3huaSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/l1J9zYIsjPAyojfri/200w.webp
NoCapForRealForReal
Cowboy hood?
TheButtInButterfly
man that looked so sweet too!
sometimesarobot
Find yourself a knitter
IgnisInvictus
Well that sucks.
Arcanum3000
The most surprising thing here is that you got an actual wearable sweatshirt at all.
Steed
Indeed, clearly a scam but I'd assume you get nothing, or a small box of worthless crap with a shipping label.
BoxZ
OP got Temu'd
getyourfruitoffmeyoudamndirtygrapes
If you're not smart enough to spot AI adverts, you kind of deserve it.
Zetor
I assume that every að is a scam
Cooper1977
drousnavat
AI generated images for products. You should expect to get scammed
OkShutItDown
My accidentally favorite hoodie is from there. I bought a thick cable knit sweater, and a hoodie arrived with a printed pattern of a thick cable knit sweater. I wear it, it's funny, it's a great story. But yeah definitely not the intended product.
KenKorte
That's 100% what I'll be doing, wearing it for the story lol
rubypilgrim
show an Etsy knitter this picture and you'll get sth awesome
vector572
#meetoo
Same exact sweater too
CouldntCakeLess
cousteau
Next time send them a photo of a $50 bill as payment.
IrishPub
No sympathy for OP. That's an obvious scam.
gtferrari
pretty sure the price was a dead giveaway. that would be a +$250 sweater
circlebreaker
@KenKorte This is fraud, report it to whichever payment processor you used to make the purchase. Request that they reverse the transaction by reason of misrepresentation/fraud by the company. It doesn't always work, but if you can convince a credit card company or bank to give a fuck about it, the company pulling that shit is going to have to start giving a shit about at least your purchase and the refund thereof.
mikeatike
Well op, that is your fault for clicking on ads on facebook.
IndependenceHallPhiladelphiaPA
you fell for some pretty obvious AI slop
ProfessorVanDiggenSagg
A scam, for sure. But I do think it's salvageable. With the right stitches here and there and some stuffing and roughening, you may end up with something close to what you ordered. Hopefully it came one or two sizes too large for that to be made.
tangybreath
Pretty sure it is a scan on image. None of that is knit
Chickychookchook
I went all DIY in my mind on it too…loose rauching (roo-shin) stitch for the mouth, bush stitch around the eyes with red on the inner aspect to add depth…blanket stitch on the cuffs…
Chickychookchook
You can use embroider thread on most fabric- it doesn’t have to be knit to work in details.
tangybreath
How are you going to add to this? It isn’t actual knit
pr0t34n
Yeah I'm not gonna say the same stuff the other people said, you know what you did. But I do have two questions - first, is it just a print on a hoodie? Second, does it smell funny?
KenKorte
Yes, it's just a cheap scan and print on a cheap quality hoodie. Smells normal though
VaxxedCanadian
Found the funny smeller
icantbelieveistillhavetoprotestthiscrap
Not enforcing truth in advertising laws is just one more way the government has let us down.
gablestout
This has nothing to do with truth in advertising. It's a scam site, plain and simple. They pop up, sell, shut down, and pop up again under a new name too fast for much to be done. Just about every (if not every) image on the site is Ai-generated. Even the name "coyboyhood.com" should be a red flag as a cheap nonsense domain name.
Site like this are as old as the internet. Good rule of thumb: I you see a $300 sweater for $37 from a foreigh-hosted site that is less than a year old, its a scam.
icantbelieveistillhavetoprotestthiscrap
It literally has everything to do with truth in advertising. That's the entire point. Sites like this should be a rarity but they're everywhere, and that's because the government doesn't do anything about it.
gablestout
Which government? Do What? These aren't legitimate companies. There's no business license to trace, no audit trail, no real address. These kinds of sites are up and down before regulators can receive enough complaints to initiate an investigation, much less do anything about it, especially when they are offshore.
The government can't protect you from everything. Sometimes, it falls to your own due diligence to protect yourself.
icantbelieveistillhavetoprotestthiscrap
Nobody said you shouldn't do your own due diligence, jackass. This crap is everywhere now and it doesn't have to be. That's my only point. Good christ.
Arcanum3000
And the people running it are almost certainly in China, and China DGAF.
L4t3xs
No shit. That's an obvious scam store. Facebook is full of ads for these kinds of crap products.
Rkfinecake
Yeah like those fancy wooden puzzles that I bought 12 of.
HaveANiceFace
Facebook is a scam as of the last few years
Evenmoreuselessname
Imgur is full of them, too.
Avilan1972
Where? (Oh "ads", I have heard of those)
Evenmoreuselessname
/gallery/i-crocheted-baba-yagas-hut-1jslDw8 the top comment is one of these scams, upvoted repeatedly to the top by a brigade of not accounts. It's Ben reposted by different user names repeatedly (check all the deleted comments at the bottom).
mikeatike
Jeesh
Falkh12
The picture reeks of photoshop/AI, and there was no way in hell you would get the pictured product for just 37USD
CallMeCourierSix
Showed my wife the site, and she pointed out a really cool dress, and asked "How much is that one?" "$37" Her response: "OH FUCK NO. THAT'S A SCAM! THAT DRESS WOULD BE AT LEAST A HUNDRED DOLLARS!"
dreammer243
Delete Facebook
Gelantious
Well yeah, what did you expect for that price? The one in the first picture would cost around 200$+ if it was real.
Evadare
You're one of the good ones. I've seen knitters underprice by that much though. Tbh if you could speed knit this one wouldn't be bad. A little ribbing, 20 rows of cables, and some weird castoffs/grafting. But you're right, it would take a bit still.
PythonIndentAwwwYiss
My good sir/madam, I've seen simpler pieces go 900+. This would take weeks for an experienced knitter to finish.
keyblader1985
I expect the product to at the very least LOOK like the photo, even if the quality is questionable. Stuff like this can't even manage to do that much.
VodkaReindeer
It would be too expensive to make something that looks like the "photo"
KenKorte
Don't order late night before bed without checking the reviews, at least I'm only out $40.
davaloha
I had a similar issue, bought a fast cat wheel (basically a hamster wheel for cats) for a suspiciously good price. Late night justification that it was plastic not wood which is why it's cheaper but in the end it was no delivery and the website was down a few days later after no replies to emails when past the estimated delivery date.
At least I used a digital disposable card which was something
PapaJoeNH
It's not what you expected, but it's still pretty cool
Muffyns
Just do a charge back if they ban you oh well not like you wete planning to buy from them again anyway
Xenarion
Did you can via PayPal? If so, you can file a claim on PayPal and get your money back. If directly by credit card, maybe you can get a chargeback too.
MuttleyMutterson
I don't ven trust reviews these days.
catmonger
Yeah especially if I'm a little tipsy or high 😅
Evadare
Know any knitters that are fond of you? A good one could reproduce this just from the picture tbh. It's pretty easy and in a big enough yarn to count rows. Could be a fun challenge.
Evadare
To me it looks like they advertised the hand knitted prototype and then converted it for extra shitty machine knitting to make the product. Bobbles and irregular castoffs-easy for hand knitters, tough for machines. Or they just charted it in one standard key and set the machine to another. That's a funny idea.
BondulanceDispatch
The advert is AI. Clearly. The product is a print of the AI on a cheap Tshirt
polarpurple
Look again ...the thing received is a smooth, thin, polyester, t-shirt-style hoodie that has an "all-over-print" image applied to it.
Snooj
PLEASE don't let it lie, you're only creating problems for future consumers. Return it and if they won't return it do a chargeback on your card. The images in this post are enough for any company to do the chargeback instantly.
AllHailMegtaron
scam shops like these don't have a return address and if they do it's in china and you have to pay the shipping costs. So a chargeback is the only option!
Snooj
Even better. Keep the shitty merch and wear it around to tell the story and also get your money back.
thedarklord187
Bro those pictures are blatantly AI If you bought from that site it's not so much a scam as you just have no critical thinking skills.
Flametide
How do you tell its AI?
Youhavinagiraffe
A scam doesn't stop being a scam just because it should be easy to identify. That's like saying it's legal to pickpocket someone if you do it clumsily
fractalsphere
That's not just AI, that's false advertising.
Mxlespxles
anononanonanona
No matter how weak their ability to identity the scam, we never blame a victim for being scammed. Get a life.
tangybreath
The only thing that sticks out to me is that it would be next to impossible for a machine to make the details on the arms. But I only know that because I am a crocheter and dabble in knit. The average person wouldn’t realize that
Base841
You're victim blaming. That photo isn't obviously AI. Good for you to be able to see it, but not only is that not obvious, AI is advancing faster than people can protect themselves. Last year you could count fingers. Now it's "looking for folds where you wouldn't usually see them"? C'mon, scammers are getting better faster than consumers can counter. Blame the people who are actually at fault.
Alexap30
That's kinda victim blaming though. A scam is a scam no matter how gullible the other person is.
KenKorte
But the Nigerian prince told me it was high quality...
admiralawesome4213
Dont feel bad bud. We've all been scammed 1 or 2 times in our lives. Its just a fact of it. Moreso now than ever with the use of AI. Just be more aware and suspicious of every website or 3rd party retailer you've never heard of than ever.
thedarklord187
If you've got a couple million dollars I have a bridge to sell you in Alaska.
KenKorte
I already spent my real estate fund on a beachfront house in Arizona
Pikkupanda
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTY1YjkxZmJldnZ1MDM2cDl6eHI1Z2w1ZWw1cjZhcWRqaHY0bmw1cGw1M2NiZTdidSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/l1TS5RPN5C74ZCAyzy/200w.mp4
thedarklord187
Man lucky
Atomic2
Okay I'll volunteer. What makes this "blatant" AI? I have no doubt that it is, but I'm not seeing it
INeedMoreGifMeMoreJustOneMore
To me, just seeing a VERY intricate design for such a low price makes several alarm bells ring.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Exactly. As soon as I saw the price, I knew it couldn't be real. You can't just have a knitting machine fire something like that off, it's going to take manual labour to make the design itself. Usually the only manual parts are sewing pieces together, but those rough raggedy holes can't be made on a machine. A human wlll have to do it, which is way more manual work than a normal sweater.
andwings2go
Yea I don’t see it, but my spidey senses would’ve picked up on hoodie pictured should be 2 or 300 not 37.
gablestout
The frays and distressed holes look “perfectly messy” in a way that’s hard to reproduce with real knitting, and the knit texture is too even in areas where it should be stretched/warped. Other images from the site are more obvious AI renders, but I highly doubt any of the images on that site are real
ionlyregisteredtosavelinks
OC is just visiting us from r/iamverysmart. It's not over the top blatant, in fact I couldn't even say it's artificial, but that's just me. But that's all besides the point - it's not consumers' responsibility to begin with.
gablestout
Go check out the site...all of the images are AI-generated. Some more blatant than others, but if you know WHAT a knit sweater like this SHOULD look like, it's obvious. Jut not to the untrained eye. Just typing in the website name in google gives scam alerts. Search on Bing and the top 10 results after the actual website are all scam alerts.
And, it is the consumer's responsibility to buy from reputable stores. This place is a scam up and down: https://malwaretips.com/blogs/cowboyhood-com-scam/
gablestout
The frays and distressed holes look “perfectly messy” in a way that’s hard to reproduce with real knitting, and the knit texture is too even in areas where it should be stretched/warped. Other images from the site are more obvious AI renders, but I highly doubt any of the images on that site are real
IHaveGreatKittenRecipes
If middle dude's face was any more airbrushed that shit would be on a 1972 shaggin' wagon.
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
It's not blatantly obvious, but look at the weird patterns on the sleeves and shoulders that are different on both sides. This would be really difficult to knit, nevermind mass-produce. Asymmetric, strangely organic looking patterns are typical for generative AI (see also the jeans pockets and belt). Also typical: too many skin lines / folds in places where you wouldn't expect them, like the neck
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Those knit patterns could be mocked by knitting a cord and sewing it on top of the knit sleeve. So it's possible. Not for the price posted, though. The skin is a better example.
Xenarion
Yeah, clues we can spot if we actively look for them, but not that obvious if you're just browsing.
gablestout
There are other images on that site that are far more blatant. But, the fact than any of this stuff is under $42, should be your biggest red flag.
The sweater OP bought alone, is easily $200-$300 if it was real
Atomic2
The one on the top right is the most egregious. Lol
Lynkfox
That skeleton one that is flat out showing into the chest lol
Xenarion
Oof yeah, those are way worse.
Sebastopol140
The asymmetry could be on purpose in that case, but the neck is the part that gives it away.
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
The visible part of the hands looks messed up too, especially the right hand.
Sebastopol140
Both.
Magpiebones
Imo it looks like it could be hand made by an artist. It would have to be, you can't machine produce something even slightly similar.
Easykehl
It’s pretty obvious it’s a scam when you see stuff like this for sale.
pareidoliaperson
Leaveittojebus
What you get:
CallMeCourierSix
What a bummer, cause I actually want these pants. Every single image on their site is AI-generated.
Oultnil
So they don't come by to take out your organs? Weak...
TheWombatStrikesAgain
It's made in China, so you first have to go over there and commit a crime.
WalksWithNoFear
Well in these uncertain fiscal times I’d imagine it’s easier and cheaper to have your customers take them out themselves.
Foxplay
Much AI, all the AI, wow
NKato
Anyone buying that gets what they deserve.
LanceSackless
Fuck that individual responsibility bullshit. Not everyone should have to be hyper aware of all the scams going on at all times. You should be able to buy things without worrying its a scam and not everyone is as good as you at recognizing them and that doesnt mean they deserve to lose their money. Its the SCAMMER’S fault. Not their victims
NKato
Not disagreeing. The issue is that people who fall for such obvious fake products are not people who should be in control of their own finances.
JohnTheFrost
Preach!
Evadare
Aw man, I'm glad you posted that though. As a knitter who used to spend all my time making and designing advanced patterns with non-traditional methods, the engine just turned over for the first time in years. My brain is going crazy with "Wonder how close I could get if I used cables or short rows or knots or intarsia or..." Thanks!
Sticklebrickk
You could do the basic red and black pattern, then go back over it with black to fill in the 3d effects, make it stranded too
spazztastic
Yes, please actually make this product and put that shit to shame
youareandshallalwaysbemyfuzzy
Please keep us updated! If you can make a rib sweater, that would be epic.
SMhobo
Would the main one even be possible? Fuk I wish I was rich so I could commission cool shit like this
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
The OP post is possible, yeah. Knit the initial ombre sweater. Cut open the holes for the eyes - you'd have to sew around the holes in matching thread so they don't unravel past your sewn line. Inside the line you can unravel them and if it's wool you can burn the ends to make it look cool. The messed-up cabling on shoulders and forearms could be mocked up using an i-cord (knitted cord) and then you can just sew it on top of the knitted surface in whatever crazy patterns you want (the ones /1
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
shown aren't possible with cable-knitting, although you could come up with something similar that's possible). The mouth you could also add on later, with picking up some stitches and knitting across the mouth line in a rib pattern for one or two rows. Picking up too few stitches for the width would also cause that puckering for the mouth. And then just knit a big red rectangle and sew it under the eyeholes. Definitely could be done (or something very close), definitely not for the price shown.