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#politics #wtf #seriously_though_wtf #police_brutality #police #racism
Jul 5, 2022 5:02 PM
mfrybeasley
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#politics #wtf #seriously_though_wtf #police_brutality #police #racism
PoopholeAintALoophole
Dude... I happen to be very liberal but this comparison is ridiculous. You're baiting and that's THEIR game. Not ours. Stop it.
Angelsinmymouthfield2
I remember coming here to laugh and now this entire site is woke white people.
TimeFoDat
It's mostly normal people whose comment histories aren't filled with vile misogynist cringe. Jesus Christ get a fleshlight or something.
PeaceBaby
Ohio is a disaster. And the rest of the country is a mess, too. I alternate between sad and angry and enraged.
whipster
Agreed, Ohio is in dire straights right now.
KrifPomPomKrif
https://myfox8.com/news/north-carolina/man-arrested-after-exchanging-gunfire-with-nc-deputies/ shot at police arrested 0 injuries
KNIGHTOFTHECR0W
One didn’t spin around in the dark like he was playing a Red light, Green light.
BabaLovesAll
This is America …
WoTLert
The difference is white there in front of you.
Ryanator50
Walker shouldn't have been shot, but it is good they took the shooter alive. Maybe they can figure out whats wrong with him and help others.
tracereading
60 times is more than the OCP dude that got shredded by ED-209.
ejw909
Just read that walker lost his fiancee in a car crash very recently. Seems like suicide by cop to me.
fknbastard
Dont forget the shootout that killed two cops but white gunman taken into custody.
Sageypie
This story needs to be the one held up in comparison. This fucker was actively fighting the cops, and armed, and was still taken in alive.
fknbastard
*3 cops dead https://abcnews.go.com/US/kentucky-officers-killed-hurt-gunman-opened-fire-home/story?id=86076193
DarnThisStuff
What are we going to do about it?! Someone smarter than me, please tell me the plan. I can follow instructions better than lead.
captainfakeypants
Leave the US. Expecting the corrupt lobbyist+oligarch-controlled government to change anything is naive and defies 25 years of evidence.
DarnThisStuff
But all my stuff is here!
captainfakeypants
All your stuff can be somewhere else!
unluckyandbored
ACAB
snixsys
Hebbelille
I doubt this was race based tbh. It was nighttime and he was wearing a ski mask. Don't think they got a good look of him.
fbutt09
That Fes barely fits lol
bryst
These jokes are funny till you realize stupid people think because its being joked about its an accepted view, and okay to think this.
SoberAndBored
Committed a traffic violation, started a high speed pursuit, fired at police, jumped out of the car, started running, turned towards the
Conz
He was wearing a balaclava too...
mrshihtzu
oh hey, someone actually has the facts.. thats amazing.. this needs more upvotes.
jursamaj
Sorry, none of that justifies the collective firing of + rounds
SoberAndBored
police quickly, reaching for his waistband and then bringing his hand upwards towards them
SoberAndBored
oh, while wearing a ski mask so you couldn't see his skin colour.
SoberAndBored
Killed 6 and wounded 30, attempted to flee, was surrounded, obeyed the polices' commands and was arrested.
jeki187
"Could you do me a favor and get on your knees. Now on your stomach." Never heard such a polite cop until they are arresting a white shooter
Sageypie
Kentucky guy around the same time shot and killed three cops, actively fighting them when he was arrested. Taken alive. Kindly fuck off.
DrakonRax
They tried tasing the guy in the left as well it didn’t work. If it did he wouldn’t of been shot.
SaveitforQueenDoppelpoppolus
there must be some difference between the two of them but i can't qwhite figure out what it could be
jacblake
Could it be that these were cherry-picked cases? OP could have shown a picture of Jeremy Smith— black man, shot 3, arrested w/o incident.
Mybzor
Cool beans, now where's the one where the white dude got 60 rounds in his back?
jacblake
Point being, these are false equivalencies and argumentative fallacies. There are better ways to prove the point.
Mybzor
Ok, so you decide to point out a false equivalenciy but you only managed to produce an equal result from one side of the argument. (1/2)
Mybzor
Play it fair and produce for both instanves instead of cherry picking the case that's easiest to support.
Darklinkinfinite
mrshihtzu
i miss key and peele
BigStacksThrowItOnThemBigFatTatties
One of them shitbags shot at the cops and tried to run away, the other shitbag got out of his car and did not try to shoot the cops.
capricornstunner
Amerikkka
TheePerfectComment
Codybill
What to live? Get a gun
fbutt09
itsthevoiceman
To add to this:
FabulouslyTiti
*sad upvote* :|
TGRaiden
https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/firing-range-targets-of-only-black-men-found-during-scout-visit-to-farmington-hills-police-department
mycatToastwasafatasshole
I thought this was an Onion Article. Jesus.
colsanders2002
Nope. They "apologized" for it after they were found out.
jediknightswhosayni
Did they? Because the follow up article says the department conducted a review of themselves and found they did nothing wrong.
immortalbucket
Law enforcement operating as intended.
Lisossoma
It’s missing the kill count and aggressive behaviour for each one of these people
Sageypie
All the white folk were either mass shooters or had killed at least a few folk before arrest. Black folk all had a goose egg on their kills.
StuffFromAaron
It's almost as if racism were still a thing
GhostBoodakaGB
They did intentionally leave out some white people who have been shot when not armed just to be completely fair.
iAmLaMosca
You’re equivocating like a mother fucker right now.
GhostBoodakaGB
Just saying things in the spirit of fairness and not wanting it to be misunderstood as someone saying “racism is a made up issue”
Iygbjwa
Is that a comparative number to the amount of nonwhite people who have been shot when not armed?
brutalwookie
Like that Aussie girl who was shot by the black cop
MarleafChef
Why dont we just get whiter? /s
francescajackson2000
Just breaks my heart
whatsisname
This image is a bit disingenuous. Many white mass shooters don't make it out alive, and many are shot dead
WeekendWarriorMark
Subdued could involve a firearm too though, shot is apparently used synonymously for killed in this graph.
Iygbjwa
Now show the analysis of deaths by cops outside of mass murders disseminated by race. I wonder if there will be a disparity?
whatsisname
Yes, there is a disparity, but the image is trying to say it's 100% one or the other based on race. It's not.
Iygbjwa
Any disparity is probably too much of a disparity when it comes to police killings.
Hebbelille
There shouldn't be any police killings at all. I am afraid the problems run deeper than just the police force. Usa has a lot to clean up..
jrabbitmusic
Superstzday
unironically, figuring out how they're failing these kids, and correcting the issue would be a solid move.
AnythingMuchShorter
Yes, they often have the less brutal more compassionate answer. They just only apply it to people who look and believe like themselves.
Superstzday
except in this case they never get past the "gee wonder how we could possible fix this" stage.
AnythingMuchShorter
Also mostly the bullshit is just a cover. They don't really even need a good loophole. Judges just let people go if they want to.
n0n53n53
oh they don't want to offer solutions, just the accusations
Sageypie
"Mental health care and gun control? Fuck that." Every goddamned time with these folk.
SomebodythatIusedtonope
dk570
That looks like Jezza. What show is this from?
thesmelge
He did a talkshow called "Clarkson" before Top Gear changed into the new style show.
4vie
Never realized he had a bald patch....
wiccancrow
MadCat221
Of course! They didn’t want to treat their fellow right-wing extremist like a *criminal*…
n0n53n53
he was from a well known family
MaybeIllDisappear
As soon as I heard they were doing a man-hunt, and it was a white guy, I knew they were planning on taking this guy alive.
MaybeIllDisappear
They have the ability to take any criminal down alive, but it is their sick fantasy to shoot non-whites for any excuse.
unchartedseas
"their fellow right-wing extremist" yeah absolutely, that dude is the picture of right-wing extremist..............
MrJewsbury
I highly recommend watching this shooting breakdown of Walker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-dhQC_9nI0
rickdlol
Dogshit fash
armagetz
And the part about opening fire at cops is irrelevant to the difference, right?
Alientongue
And the part about the other kentucky guy that got arrested and brought in after shooting and killing three cops?
DasOgre
After 6 hours of firing back and forth, they were able to negotiate to arrest him. He complied with orders and was no longer a threat.
armagetz
Also, a valid example existing in a different comparison doesn’t make this one any less disingenuous.
armagetz
His own lawyer doesn’t deny it….citing that Walker was unfamiliar with firearms and it must have “accidentally discharged”
DasOgre
It should be a crime alone to have a gun and “be unfamiliar with firearms.”
BrambleWolf
Ok I'm very critical of the police but he SHOT AT THEM. I watched the video heard the shot, heard them call it in.
Kassimila
Stop applying logic, only racism. It's so obnoxious at this point. Like if it's real call it out, but stop the false equivalency.
TimeFoDat
They eviscerated him for like 10 full seconds. It it reasonable to believe he was EVER coming out alive? Crimo was just *that* compliant?
BrambleWolf
If you shoot at the cops you can explain why you did it in the afterlife
Alientongue
He dropped after the first second. They spent another 6 shooting his corpse
DasOgre
Cops are not trained to shoot to injure, they are trained to shoot until the target is eliminated.
K1d1caru5
Protect and serve….yourself that is.
whipster
Lets not forget the speeds of 60+ miles per hour through tight residential neighborhoods. Ever see all those "car stuck in a house" pics?
MrJewsbury
To those who would like to have a full shooting breakdown of Jayland walker, watch this vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-dhQC_9nI0
thedudeman519
A former cop? Not at all a biased source.
lock0ut
You realise that Donut literally says "I let you guys draw your own conclusions, I just present the facts"
thedudeman519
On this video perhaps. I've seen others where he is clearly biased.
IAmDrBanner
The US has a serious issue with police violence, but disingenuous posts like this do not help the situation either. The post fails to /1
IAmDrBanner
mention that Walker (Left person in the picture) fled from police in a vehicle and shot at the pursuing cops, so the cops had the /2
IAmDrBanner
understanding that he was armed and dangerous, even though he left the gun in the cat when he abandoned the car and cointued on foot. /3
IAmDrBanner
This kind of post only serves as ammo for the dipshits who rabidly defend cops when they are clearly on the wrong, by claiming that all /4
IAmDrBanner
accusations are fabricated or overblown. There is plenty of things to criticize and be angry about in how the cops handled the situation /5
K1d1caru5
Still doesn’t change the fact the guy on the right also armed and dangerous somehow gets much less than 60 bullets. Like zero bullets.
IAmDrBanner
without the need to make shit up or muddy the waters by posting half-facts deliberately. It doesn't help anyone and it only gets in the way.
kazenokize
You can hear so many shots in the video for so long it even sounds like popcorn it's crazy! They just didn't stop shooting
TossABabyYodaToYourWitcher
The kicker was that most of the shots were at him laying on the fucking ground after already being shot
kawraith
Look up Amadou Diallo. Same deal.
Helenmcmuffin
It's disturbing to me, his poor family must have be a mess, my heart goes out to them. No one should have to see their child like that
YoloMcSwagginsteinDaFith
Thats exactly how cips in Grand Theft Auto behave.
Nerfgunner
So you are saying it's not the fault of police, but of video games
kickmyballsrealhard
Those damn cips
PoppinLochNessHopster
Fuck gta cops so hard, can't have a peaceful 30 minute long fight in the lobby without having to suicide every encounter to get rid of cops
Iatesomecoffeecups
I think they want more riots for an excuse to kill more people
kyro
I'm told a lot of cops are trained "once you start shooting, empty the mag"
Frederf
If black reload once or twice while you're at it.
Wikipedo
"If we don't use up all our ammo, we won't get any next year"
JaceTiger
While that might been intended to be a joke, it's real a lot of the time. Also, whether you fire one bullet or 100, you're writing a report
kawraith
This is how they are trained to mess up any meaningful ballistic analysis that could support a case for their actions being unjustified.
Justlurking869
Yeap easier to bullshit "feared for my life" defense. A single shot or controlled burst means you were in control.
Returned
Terrible argument that should never be in court. What if a pilot ‘feared for his life’, missed a checklist, then crashed the plane? Jail.
Justlurking869
Oh I agree. Its why ACAB is true. They are trained to be bastards.
HistoricalContext
At least 90 shots were fired, 60 of which struck him. That's at least 6 cops just completely unloading on him.
Ninjainslippers
Yeah, that's 6 fully loaded 9mm mags, potentially more. I've shot things with a single 12 round mag and they are unrecognizable.
PoopSammich
That means people fucking reloaded
Hndrx27
6 guns × 15 round mags = 90 rounds.... could be 6 officers with full mag clearing
B4DF15H2
No trigger control at all to fully empty a clip. There's a thought process to firing rounds. Not everyone fired 15. Someone reloaded.
B4DF15H2
We'll find out when their wrist gets slapped with the plastic ruler instead of the wooden.
itsthevoiceman
Yep
Fuckididntwantausername
There were 8 cops. Against 1 unarmed man running AWAY from them and his car. He posed no existential threat. And they shot at him 90 times.
Hebbelille
He shot out his car during the chase so they believed he was armed and opened fire when he quickly turned around during run. Body cam vid.
mxmarko
So turning around means getting 90 shots fired at you? You don’t think after the first 10-20 they would figure out he’s not a threat anymore
Hebbelille
I agree it sounds waay too much. Considering 8 cops who are in tunnel vision trained to shoot 6+- center mass, adds up quickly. 1/2
DwightSchrupert
Tbf he also shot at police while being chased, then ran on foot towards a populated area. Shooting was excessive but absolutely justified.
Iygbjwa
Really?
TriggerII
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/07/03/us/jayland-walker-police-shooting-video/index.html Yes.
Iygbjwa
My response was intended that 90 shots from 8 officers is not justified despite the "shooting at police and running to a populated area."
Iygbjwa
When a car chase runs through residential areas you don't pursue to save civilian lives. He dropped the gun in the car and ran away.
TriggerII
Also saw tons of different body cams, he turned around and went for his waist. Soon after the responding officer acted independently of e/o
justgifingaround
Sauce?
TacoPoweredHelicopter
Omg just fucking google it. Both are well known.
justgifingaround
Feel better now?
oifaen
I googled "black guy shoot by cops", 520 million hits
TheBeardlyOne
You hear a shit load of shooting for several seconds followed by a loud and clear "cease fire" and they stopped. You don't have to lie.
TOOTSIEBUNS
Fck off
kazenokize
I didn't say "and the legend goes they are still shooting to this day" dude chill.
Itsfineiknowaguythatknowsadoctor
"We killed em, save some ammo for the next one."
thesmelge
Why would they continue? They've probably run out of solid chunks to shoot into at that point.
nycwill
Where's the lie?
TheBeardlyOne
Saying that in went on for so long it sounded like popcorn and that they just didn't stop shooting. Those are lies.
LeifTheUnlucky
If you cared about the person being shot to death, those seconds would feel like an eternity. But go on and keep slobbering on that boot.
TheBeardlyOne
There were a lot of shots fired very quickly but it was over in seconds and they stopped when commanded
Justlurking869
So were they commanded to execute that man then?
TheMadOnion
Focusing on the wrong detail here bootlicker.
AzraelEternity
No one is contesting the length of time. They're commenting on the sound of 90+ shots being fired in rapid succession.
Iatesomecoffeecups
God, what a clown
hannahbutnotreally
You're really focusing on the wrong thing here, friend.
VulcanP90
dense. really fuckin dense.
Rookie8286
Does the fact that Walker shot at the police during his pursuit play into this reaction, or nah, not a relevant issue?
Splittmark
A white guy killed 3 cops and got arrested just a couple days ago
CitizenPrime
You will get downvoted but both situation are oversimplified.
SoundFuture
It's cherry picked but fits with overall trends. You could easily find the opposite, it just happens less often so it's less honest.
thedudeman519
Not really no. Plenty of white people shoot at cops, kill them, and get taken in alive.
mcberg1337
I feel like we have enough settled cases of cops being bastards we don't need to rush into sharing a new potential case until facts are set.
2Nafishsammich
???? Wasn't he unarmed when he fled? Did he shoot before fleeing or something?
fr33land3r
Did he though? That pistol is a fucking plant for sure.
blainetog
White boys who shoot at cops are routinely arrested alive. The disparity is jarring.
walnutbreath
The chief alleged he fired his gun, but not at the police. And that was before the foot chase. Even if we cede that he made a threatening
walnutbreath
motion, there's still no excuse for unloading 90 rounds including 60+ hits. And then handcuffing him afterwards. Those are the actions of
walnutbreath
psychopaths unfit for public service and firearm use.
lock0ut
It does, glad to see some other people actually do research on these things before posting
iwonderwhatthemaxusernamecharacterlimitis
And let’s add that he was wearing a ski mask so they had no idea of his race at the time of the pursuit.
unluckyandbored
Okay. What about that guy last week in Kentucky who shot and KILLED THREE COPS and was still taken alive?
mrshihtzu
ABillionDucks
I mean crimo shot at a crowd and killed. Why did cops feel safe around him?
jacblake
Facts just get in the way of an angry ignorant echo chamber.
Superstzday
it literally doesn't. cop killers have been taken alive. walker was shot multiple times in the back while fleeing. fuck off, nazi.
CoqRoq
If that is an actual fact and not just what the cops said. Cops always claim their victims were armed despite the evidence.
Elpollolocoo
They found the gun in the car seat
TattooedWarrior7
Well they released body cam footage. There were eye witnesses that said there was another shot. And the camera shows the shot. So....
Ninjainslippers
It's probable that he fired a shot, but even the cops admit he was unarmed when they shot him 60ish times.
Elpollolocoo
They discovered he didn't have the gun he used to fire at them a few seconds ago on him after they shot him 60 times yeah
hollanderpolder
I saw footage of a gun at the passengers seat.
thesmelge
Next to a wedding ring. Because when you're running from cops, you take time to remove that and place it next to your gun.
jacblake
Is that his wedding ring? was he wearing it? did he remove it at the same time the gun was put there?
CargoManshark
Are we sure it wasn't planted? I'm not willing to give the cops the benefit of the doubt.
Maxgaap
So far seems legit; Gun and shell casings were in the vehicle, traffic camera showed muzzle flash, independent witnesses heard 1st shots.
darkstarmc
To be fair, the grainy ass traffic cameras video shows more a rear view mirror Flash to be. Plus the single casing they found is more sus
SociallyAwkwardCanadianMoose
We need an independent investigation. Can't have police investigating themselves. In canada there is a 3rd party to do that
BrdCdn
1/ This. Fucking insane there isn't in USA. Every police shooting gets investigated here. In this case he likely shot at them. But the
AzraelEternity
So far as I'm aware that "fact" is disputed and has not been corroborated. It's based on a police statement which cannot be trusted.
Elpollolocoo
So the video just not.real ?
darkstarmc
Also 1 shot while driving - they singled out they found a single casing in his back seats - which is sus - and he was unarmed when gunned d
TattooedWarrior7
You're unaware. They released body cam footage. Eye witnesses said there was another shot. And the traffic cam shows the shot. Indisputable
secondtalon
Not indisputable. Absolutely disputable. 'course, you can dispute anything. Need analysis to see if it actually happened - but seems to be.
TattooedWarrior7
Yes, yes, technically everything is disputable. ? Evidence strongly suggests he shot at cops. Just like evidence suggests cops shot at him
BustedTuna
In the video you can hear a noise that they say is the gunshot. Realistically, though, we need forensics on the gun in the car to be sure.
omgitscarty
Police went back to the scene of the shot and retrieved a bullet casing that was the same as the casings in his gun.
Yasharah
Not to say that that's not true. But is it his gun? It needs more investigating
MrJewsbury
I highly recommend watching this shooting breakdown of Walker, you hear the shots from walker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-dhQC_9nI0
AzraelEternity
From an ex-cop sponsored by a concealed carry group. Yeah, that's not biased *AT ALL*. Also they blur out everything supposedly showing his
thedudeman519
I knew it was donut chugger
AzraelEternity
"forward arm movement" that they interpreted as being hostile and "raising into a firing position."
TimeFoDat
Even if that's 100% accurate, does it really balance things out? He took more shots than the other guy's 30+ victims & was the only death.
Elpollolocoo
Didn't see the mass murdere shot at cops in pursuit. No one should be killed while being arrested
Sageypie
I'd say nah, considering there was another incident around the same time in Kentucky, where a guy shot and killed three cops and was taken-
Superstzday
dude is JAQing himself off. because he's a white supremacist piece of shit.
Sageypie
-alive while still actively fighting and shooting at other cops. White guy there, also.
lrateyourrig
Yeah this is the perfect contrast for this bullshit. They take in alive the people they want to, it would seem.
lucivjov
Is this the incident where there may have been a car backfire and the cops got scared and emptied clips?
jacblake
Is there evidence of acar backfiring?
jomi20806
Is there evidence that the cop was telling the truth about the guy shooting before fleeing?
jacblake
Other commentors on this post stated that there was a gun seen is his car and video of a shot fired. Demonstration of a lying cop is…
jacblake
…the responsibility of an ethical prosecutor and a effective defense attorney, not uninvolved witnesses.
Giantmutantcrab
Is there evidence of the car not backfiring? You see, I can ask stupid, inane, bad faith questions too.
jacblake
From you I expect only stupid, inane, and bad faith questions.
Giantmutantcrab
Ooh, the Uno reverse card argument. "No u". Truly Shakespearian in effort. Keep licking cop boots.
Boatsntoes
He was armed and wearing a ski mask. He left his handgun in the car when he ditched it though. Complicated situation
NoNameFred
Both clearly for self-defence. There's a violent gang that has been targeting people of his skin colour, calling themselves "the police"…
DocWats
Watch out for Sting...
jacblake
He’s watching every breath you take.
Shewy92
Oh shut the fuck up. Cops are racist assholes sure but anyone wearing a ski mask that's shooting their guns would also be shot.
NoNameFred
So you think Mass Murder is fine, but "shooting an inanimate object while masked and black" deserves summary extrajudicial execution then?
Elpollolocoo
Looks how hard you had bend words that are not even here to try to put words in his mouth..what a clown