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seeklynx
Thankfully those are heavy. Maybe not heavy enough.
AtsaMattaForYou
joesmith369
:D Not everyday we get a Johnny Dangerously reference - well done
Dimmikk
Insomnia297
Most of those verbs were "fuck" so
ugottapaythetrolltoll
My penis can only get so erect
ExcitingJosh
Davidnfilms
Bert Gummer would love this.
Mewmus
Maximum Penetration
SkinnerTBD
thecrustyjuggler69
BEANSBEANSBEANSBEANSBEANSBEANSBEANS
Don't forget "Fuck my thumb".
ratcamper
If my govt didn't have such a hard on for keeping guns away from people I would so own one of these!
cyanidkatharsis
But if you bought one you would go kill a bunch of people, and we can't have that.
ratcamper
Totally. Yet I'm allowed to own and drive a car which has so much more lethal potential. What a world we live in.
cyanidkatharsis
I hope you caught my sarcasm.
ratcamper
Yeah. I did. Just irked that we can't gave cool things.
th1sguysdeadwife
too bad the mastermind behind this passed away so they were discontinued, the guns that did get made are rare and highly collectable
lolthisismyusername
I bet. A semi-auto in *that* round?
Hybris51129
We need to get Ian the Forgotten Weapons guy to review one of these.
mustangpilot12
I want it (also MURICA!).
flagbasher
I fired a bolt action rifle with these rounds... once. I was left with a bruised armpit the next day.
IHaveASiriusCyberneticsCorporationGenuinePeoplePersonality
Zeroed in a 12ga red dot with slugs at 25 yards. Missed the pocket once, still feeling it. (25 yards was not by choice, I'd be happy w/21ft)
MemeStealingSkeleton
Oh that's always fun, brings back fond memories of the first time i zeroed my slug chucker with 3" slugs.
JakefromStateFarmTx
Damn fam that made MY shoulder hurt just now
Conflict
I used to hunt with that gun. Not that bad. Had my gun sighted for 50 yards.
BiliboyJenkins
Was shooting some skeet with an old double barrel, using up some magnum loads, and my dad hits both triggers at once by accident.. twice..
Derptator
Did he get knocked over?
BiliboyJenkins
Nah, he's a big dude, but he was bruised up pretty bad.
RyanForehand
2 3/4 slugs or 3inch magnum load slugs cause I got an 2 870s one for each plus a modified 10 rd tube on one
FreedomWaffles
fuckin pussy. is what I would say if I didn't know the feeling.
CeleryBathtub2k19
I want to see it shot
JRedBear
This is the kind of gun that Kills on one end and Maims on the other but it takes a trained doctor to tell which end you were on.
thebigdnotdallas
What I don't understand is, why do they make that round in a slug style, why not make it pointed and actually give it a decent coefficient?
Hybris51129
Because a rounded bullet allows it to be heavier than a spitzer (pointed) bullet for a given length of a projectile and as others have (1)
Hybris51129
said this is a close range dangerous game cartridge so the required ballistics are different compared to say .30-06 Springfield.
kd0giz
Its rounded like that for maximum expansion after impact. When the round hits it will impart most of the energy. Needed for large game.
thebigdnotdallas
Makes sense
thatsnotaknife
Because it was designed for stopping large and dangerous game charging at you at close range, like African water buffalo
giam0c0
Only in US
Jomini001
Glorious. Too bad McCann doesn't make them anymore.
Dekosthedk413
Semi auto elephant hunting *sarcasm*
marsgoose
You never know when a herd of t-rexes will show up.
mustachefleas
The 458 is what dirty harry used to try and kill the rooftop killer
Blitzen15
"But being that this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off...
Blitzen15
you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well do ya, punk?"
AzgarOgly
Not in that case.
The5SecondFuse
And Jacque wanted in Harry and The Hendersons
SlimPickinns
*.44 magnum.
AzgarOgly
Rooftop killer. Harry was shooting a rifle in that episode. //
AzgarOgly
A Winchester Model 70 chambered in .458 Winchester Magnum is used by Insp. "Dirty" Harry Callahan (Clint Eastwood) in a failed attempt //
AzgarOgly
to kill the Scorpio Killer on the rooftops over looking the church (http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Dirty_Harry)
Ohhhhyeahhhhhhh
I LOVE POSTS OF THIS CALIBER!
Ryang256
By comparison most .44 magnums (Dirty Harry guns) have ~1500 joules of muzzle energy. This .458 hits over 4 times harder.
cowpiefatty
I don't know anything about guns so these words make no sense to me but I agree.
Treblaine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.458_Winchester_Magnum most gun-nerds on the internet have never touched a gun, but they know google-fu.
Imgonnatipyouwell
Right there with you. Context clues leads me to believe this shit will fuck you up good.
tyrsfavoritesword
pro boxer punching you in the shoulder
cowpiefatty
It sounds like it fucks up everyone on both sides i think?
RyanForehand
On a scale of 10 this is like an 8 or 9
lysani
Meanwhile, the .500 S&W Magnum breaks the scale and everything around it.
Alkuam
Shooting one of those wasn't so bad, unless maybe you went with the snubnose version. The weight of the gun absorbs a lot of the recoil.
WeenusMaGee
I have a friend who calls garands "grands" and it really bothers me
pollomagnifico
.458 magnum. Because F=MA, fuck the M, and blunt force trauma solves all the problems.
FlowVector
E=(1/2)mv^2, you deliver more energy with speed than mass.
AlphaIndustrial
Its why i moose hubt with a 45-70
bigmuffin1
I pig hunt with 45-70.
AlphaIndustrial
I like your excessiveness
bigmuffin1
It gives me a good view inside the pig before I eat it. plus free tenderizing.
AlphaIndustrial
Living in canada. We dont have boar. My friends and i wanna take a trip down south for it. I wanna leonidas a bitch with a spear.
AzgarOgly
In this case it is more like p=m*v that matters. Momentum is what defines recoil.
Quackenefle
literally E is p integrated
AzgarOgly
E depends on the environment, who holds the gun, how firmly it is held, etc. p depends on cartridge (and barrel length) only.
AzgarOgly
I see a gracious smile of 4 bore shooters.
Winstitutionalized
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=cKXCu5oXgFY
LordGeneralHammerSmash
Fuck Massachusetts? I agree
MOTHERFUCKING
FUCK YOUR TEA, CUNT!
BaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaNaBATMAN
*F=ma
eraser1
F=d(mv)/dt
loganthomsen
Custom variables in honor of custom rounds
HippDeutschMan
Can someone explain that in non gun language?
marsgoose
pew pew pew
glesperance69
It kicks like a retarded mule
lazerbream
*BANG* (whooooooosh) *powpow* [shoulder pain]
Mewmus
Big Bada Boom
shadowex3
Yknow that one powerup in shmup games that makes your bullets really big? This is that.
HippDeutschMan
Thanks! So more bang bang from the rooty-tooty-point-and-shooty
Individualsocksinthewashingmachine
Big gun make big shooty
biglongandgirthyusername
gun go boom, shoulder go owie.
kageboshi
The M1 normally fires a .30 caliber round but someone is making a modified version that shoots a round 50% larger with much more power.
HippDeutschMan
Thanks man! So more boom from the same barrel!
phasmafelis
It's like trading in a sword for a 150lb barbell. Yeah, it hits harder, but...
Minnakht
The boom makes the bullet go forward and the gun go backwards into you, in case you care about your shoulder. Physics!
ANerdsMind
Complete gun moron here. Is a 50% increase that catastrophic?
tallquasi
Force=Mass(acceleration). Bigger bullet with a commensurate increase in powder will whomp your ass, either giving or receiving.
AzgarOgly
In terms of recoil it is about twice as hard. Kinda strong, but until you hold the gun properly, not something to seriously worry about. //
AzgarOgly
But if some moron would give it to 100 lb girl holding gun like they usually do on youtube, it could hurt not just her feelings.
kageboshi
That's just the diameter; the bullet is much larger in mass and there's a LOT more gunpowder behind it. They're used to kill big game 1/2
kageboshi
in Africa like elephants, rhinos, etc, and with a different bullet not designed to pierce thick hide, lions and other predators.
AzgarOgly
Actually recoil is more or less twice of a regular rifle cartridge. Not that bad.
ANerdsMind
So why Chamber a rifle that wasn't made for that to carry such a round?
glesperance69
For the non gun imgurians: its a big bullet and it kicks like your exgirlfriends mother
BanThisIfYouDare
NON GUN IMGURIANS????? YOU MUST BE JOKING, NO DOUBT.
HippDeutschMan
vikungr
IDoTyposNotEvenSorryButYouCanCallMeNotAGator
I doubt a corpse can kick but hey sounds bad enough xD (Had to sorry, lovin the exs moms xD)
mellino19
At least it's gas operated and not bolt action, then you'd really be fucked
GolFoehammer
All i've ever seen this round chambered in are bolt actions. I never knew they mod'd a garande to take something that big.
mellino19
https://instagram.com/p/BbLWv92gRyb/ enjoy
oneofthosemeddlingkids
guywithwifi
Wacky tictacs
quattroformaggix4
Oh my god, has she kicked you as well?
Arcian
Not if you left your ex-gf for her mother.
Wrathtoise
Defensively?
JuiceSpringsteen8
My girlfriends mother is a wonderful, gentle soul. Sounds pleasant...
TemporaryUzername
my exgirlfriends mother is dead. died from a .458 M1 to the leg.
originalWFHhipster
And for the non-relationship imgurians? How would you explain it for THEM, huh?
BigAZNMan
It kicks like a retarded gorilla on pcp
boogermonster
That’s funny because normal gorillas don’t kick and it’d take a retarded gorilla to start kicking
BigAZNMan
Yep.
Mikadomea
My ex girlfriends mother loved me. She was really kickin it.
Randomfootyfan
newsguycraigevans
Another toy for assholes who think guns are toys
JUmpmAN1
Probably just as loud too
GolFoehammer
picture a small canon going of by your ear. Even with ear plugs, if you're close by when one goes off, your ears will ring.
BannedForNSFW03
I dislike my s/o’s mother. She always has a scowl on her face. I feel that she’s a quadrant B, introvert.
Winstitutionalized
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=cKXCu5oXgFY
Gotbread
non imgunians?
SeregRauko
*Non US Imgurians
Killertortilla
I read that as girlfriend's exmother and was scared.
VillainousRapscallion
basic firearms klnowledge and reading its size and what it is i peed myself a lil.
Dogchimp
My exes mother was a double amputee
SuchRelevantMuchRelate
congrats
RavensX1X
So I guess she won't kick you again now.
MrHasuu
as a non gun imgurian, whats the difference between this and a .50 cal ?
doccchoc
A few hundred footpounds of muzzle energy, velocity, effective range, terminal ballistics, and stopping power all in favor of .50bmg.
Txtcat
So, like if someone calls me out and says "2 for flinching" but instead of using his fist, he uses a metal bat, correct? That kind of kick?
GolFoehammer
Imagine getting kicked in the shoulder by a small horse. IF you don't prepare yourself properly. Then it's only like getting punched
Gnomleif76
But ... I've never had a girlfriend ...
Minnakht
If I end up with fewer broken bones than my targets it's a net gain, that's why we invented carpet bombing
awes132
wasnt carpet bombing jizzing into pubes?
Mediumtim
And FASCAM, for those times the enemy is running late for his own death.
MrMaRzZ
Or carpet diving
TheRealFireFrenzy
that and so we can get shit rikkity rikkity rekt
valen00
Yaknow if you are getting injured during a carpet bombing from 50kft you're doing something wrong
FeloKiteFlier
I think I pulled a muscle pressing the “release payload” button.
SomeOneYouMayKnowOrNot
Carpet nukes. If you're not injured, they're not big enough.
BishlamekGurpgork
That is both horrifying, and fascinating.
BishlamekGurpgork
Here's a thought. Nuclear material generally needs a very specific type ignition to force a subcritical mass to go critical. This is one
BishlamekGurpgork
3-other warheads and prevent detonation?
BishlamekGurpgork
2-reason you can intercept a nuke with a missile, and be certain you won't detonate it. Wouldn't one nuclear blast merely destroy any
usersubbordercontrol
That's why retard strength works. I'm half retarded, and we feel the pain, just we ignore it cause we're hurting the other more. A Victory.
TrueDankMemeLord
Sounds wrong but I can't question it
TygrF
Well now I'm curious - which half?
Mashnik127001
The half he uses to comment on the internet
arbsbuhpuh
The bottom half
nanyatenyaa
Retarded boners?
rambro93
The retarded half obviously.
BenderBenderBender
I first read as "M1 Grenades" until your comment. Thank you. I think I need more sleep...
JUmpmAN1
Look at the size of those fckers, they might as well be
OldMadDad
you and me both... frigen 3 am here.
Zaayl
I mean, M1 Grenade is a great name for a rifle grenade fired from a M1 Garand
BishlamekGurpgork
"Throw me a Garand!" *Grenade lands in his lap, explodes, legs gone, bleeding out* "Not the grenade, idiot!" "WELL!? THEY SOUND ALIKE!"
BishlamekGurpgork
So . . . are those triggered by a bullet? I can't imagine it's as long as the entire barrel, so the firing pin can reach a primer.
Mediumtim
A special blank round. https://youtu.be/161JT0WRVf4
Redrunner36
It's fired by a special blank.
BishlamekGurpgork
That seems impractical - ammunition supplied in two parts, risking that they might be separated and thus useless. As a soldier, even if it
TygrF
OK, then non-gun imgurian follow-up: aren't there already rifles that take this size round? Why alter this one to fit them?
mildlyconcernedcitizen
Semi-automatic capability for follow-up shots on dangerous game. Also the M1 is a robust and familiar platform, less training time needed.
TygrF
This is the sort of answer I was looking for. Is the original type of rifle for this round a slide lock then?
GolFoehammer
Bolt action is the term you're looking for. Semi-auto loads, clears and reloads after each single finger pull. Bolt action you have to 1/?
GolFoehammer
manually pull the bolt back to clear the chamber, then push the bolt forward to load the next round.
Satiricbox6
Because some people can't live without the ping
Shadehawk
oh god i love the ping
Rufireproof
Sometimes it's not about why. Like dropping a 350 into an S-10 pickup. It's fun.
TygrF
Non-truck imgurian, too. My point was what are the characteristics of this rifle that wanted seeing the handling of this size round?
loganthomsen
Nerd that grew up in a town of rednecks: the negatives are the draw. A friend made a gun and the best part was it was as loud as a cannon.
ddet1207
The M1 Garand is an extremely popular rifle. I'm sure this happened because someone who really liked it also wanted to shoot a .458 Win.
clevermotherfucker
But the rifle is built to compensate for the recoil.
AzgarOgly
The muzzle break is not that efficient on it and there not much of other recoil mitigating devices in it. Not even heavy gun. So meh.
clevermotherfucker
Yeah the mercury capsule inside the stock is nearly useless.
AzgarOgly
Mercury what? Lol :)
Blakity
Uh, shot a Ruger single shot in 458. It won't compensate nearly enough to matter.
Flapjacktastic
That's not all it's built to compensate for...
commentsectiontrafficcop
HU HOOOOOOOOOO SHIT! GOT EEM!
doesntmatter
TheyCallMeDrFeelGood
As a European, my first question is.. why? Yeah I know "fuck you! Why not??! We have our rights! It's in the constitution!!" but still, why?
whatspaulplayingtoday
Honestly, it's less "We have our rights!" and more, "Let's see if we can..."
NomadicPaladin
Because this would be fun to shoot. Shooting can be like therapy during rough times.
sumowoman
Seems to be the only kind of therapy available for Americans, judging from the news lately...
NomadicPaladin
Which is why the NRA has made such an effort to push mental health legislation and proper gun training. They can't force proper use though.
sumowoman
So NRA has all power in USA and no one else can decide anything?
Tommyknockerman
The question is not "why?", but "why not?". Also he covers that. Fuck your cover and the six guys behind you.
ScienceIsNotALiberalConspiracy
Because stuffing the car with tannerite and diesel, in and of itself, is just not enough.
RyanLovesMeth
Hows the migrant sex attacks goin
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WubbaLubbaDubbDub
Oh shut the fuck up. Always with you people. You would hunt with a grenade launcher if you could.
GolFoehammer
I beg your pardon? I NEVER hunt with grenades! Fishing on the other hand...
ThundrDownunder
Jesus Christ, you sure it wasn't a boar shaped tank? Is this one of those, " Andy heard from Dave, who heard from Leni who knows a guy..."?
thewiggins
I think you are describing the standard model
Hyrkitekite
I have personally shot a freaking pig in the head with a .308 and the bastard kept coming o_O Bastards are scary.
CantSleepInUnderwear
This is exactly why my hunting friends carry a backup 12 gauge shotgun with slugs.
Sharkuu
saw a wild boar running on a football field. the hunter wasnt fast enough and the cop shot. 2 mags from his pistol and still not 100% dead
pirihannu
https://imgur.com/2jYnGgF
marsgoose
You could get this in Most of Europe on a hunting license, since it's a semi auto big-game rifle.
HaveYouTurnedItOnAndOffAgain
We only have 1 animal here that would require that, wild boars.
marsgoose
Also fuck you, we have our rights! It's in the constitution.
TheyCallMeDrFeelGood
I guess Sweden is the exception with these bullets then. Just checked with my father in law (who has a license) and there is no chance in
marsgoose
Weird, considering it's sold in SE gun stores http://www.torsbohandels.com/ammunition/kulor They have even bigger stuff like .470NE and .338
TheyCallMeDrFeelGood
hell to get legal right to use these types of bullets to hunt for deer, moose etc. "America, fuck yeah" ... scares me how liberal you guys
freebooterz
Would be interesting to see a video of this in action
Ravenbreaker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEXblhkBLV4
pavehawkfavehawk
Not a great vid. Sorry. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cKXCu5oXgFY
CoeusDarksoul
FUCKING EYE PRO JACKWAGONS!
Baurge
You can see the grimace of pain from the kick. He tried to play it off but that shit hurt.
AzgarOgly
Try to search "4 bore" on youtube. Those guys would just smile upon .458 :)
TreesAndShit
*European imgurian makes comment about Americas concerning obsession for large guns*
Rasdwatrium
*American imugrian ignoring todays massacre in Texas or the recent one in Vegas*
IStillGiveOutDickPics
just because there's a tragedy that means we can't enjoy firearms? why? I'm not throwing out my copy of Usual Suspects just because spacey's
IStillGiveOutDickPics
a kiddy diddler...why the fuck should I be anti-gun because a few fuck heads misuse them?
Shickydakubofick
With the gun in the post it'd be more like "get off my planet."
GuardsmanMiku
i dont get that, neither of us can own tanks but they're still cool
nextgenpants
Euros can own tanks at least the Brits can. It's easy here (and there) if the gun's deactivated. If it's not, in the US, it requires a 1/1
nextgenpants
lot of paperwork and every shell (no HE shells allowed at all) has to be registered with the ATF. 2/2
Tikityler
I can buy a tank right now if I wanted to. If I want a working cannon on it I can get the proper paperwork to do so.
Insomnia297
I mean, we CAN own tanks, it's just not easy.
MrE158
It's easy enough, just horribly expensive. And a lot of the cost is just moving the damn thing around.
ZAPZAPMOTHAFUCKA
It's easy if you de-com the gun
CabanaBannana
Yea you just de-com the gun and get rubber treads last I read. And fork over hundreds of thousands of dollars if not millions.
Drakhma
buy a half track, much cheaper.
GerManiac77
Relax, if we would life in a country like this, where every idiot is armed, we definitely would see the need for a gun too.
SecondSince
I wouldn't want to live there. But that's just me.
ZAPZAPMOTHAFUCKA
Statistically speaking. The majority of gun owners are law abiding citizens....
scrim4
Most idiots are also law abiding. Only European person I know who wants a gun for self defense is so dense he can barely tie his shoe laces.
ZAPZAPMOTHAFUCKA
Europe is a totally different landscape culturally and politically than the US. Trying to equate the two regarding firearms laws is pointles
scrim4
Yeah no. It's not culture or politics causing mass shootings, it's access to firearms. We had mass shootings, until we took away the guns.
accujimmy
Horray! The majority of people don't murder people! The majority of children in the world don't have cancer either, so cancer=no big deal!
JBoy00987855
Exactly, outlaw cancer, problem solved.
TreesAndShit
What a horrible analogy
accujimmy
How so? pretty fucking apt if you ask me, but I'm open to seeing why it's not good in your eyes
khensu83
Can someone translate this for the countries that don’t sell guns at corner shops
EatTacos
The .458 Winchester Magnum is a good caliber for hunting pissed off dinosaurs. The M1 Garand has the capacity to shut down Jurassic Park.
CritterJoe
AK47~ is ~2KJ, 12ha SLUG is around 4KJ(up to iirc), this, as someone said puts out 7KJ
photony
and in English???
CritterJoe
Almost 4x energy output of 7.62x39 cartridge. .338 LM puts out less than this and can hit target at 2.5km(at least thats distance folks 1/?
CritterJoe
brag on YT - too expensive to shoot here). watch?v=U_uw5q5OrbU 2/2
Pantiesonhead
Its a big... Big bullet
merlinious
It is a big, heavy bullet that causes a great deal of recoil. Your shoulder will hurt from firing it
Treblaine
Arguably it will hurt less as the Garand mechanism has something of a recoil absorbing effect.
DudeItLooksLikeIDidntChooseAnUsername
big pew pew https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXWtbb3FAe0 also as Italian I'm kinda intrigued by it
VetKop
This Vid was taken in my country, South Africa. We don't sell guns at every corner shop though.
bukobg
This rifle uses a really big bullet that can penetrate many things and gives a very strong recoil that can hurt your shoulder.
d0o0o0d
It's the USA's infantry rifle from WW2 redesigned for a caliber meant for african safaris. Kinda neat, but why, y'know?
Meckmester
Big gun, big bullet, big hurt.
LiamNeesonOfficial
It, literally, feels like you're getting kicked when you fire this round; the force required to propel that mass forward is equal to backwar
PoppinLochNessHopster
Where do you live that you can't buy guns? Sounds like willful ignorance to me.
PoppinLochNessHopster
The classic imgur downvote with no rebuttal, for when you don't like the truth. Nice.
BanMyLife
Wow, I didn’t think I’d ever run into someone retarded enough to not know how to use google.
NotSmartEnough
Because fuck anyone who has ever even tried to get any information from anywhere else than Google. Am I right?
BanMyLife
1. Why wait for someone to give you a response to a question you asked to potentially not get the answer you were looking for?
BanMyLife
2. When you can take initiative and go beyond the answer you were looking for and then some.
txmount
The slug is 11.63 mm in diameter, and strikes with roughly 7000 joules of force. It's designed to hunt large game -- like elephants. (1/2)
Treblaine
Elephants, you know, like in the colonies you used to have.
TastyTastyScience
Joules are a measure of energy, not force.
OverpricedCrayon
why would anyone want to hunt an elephant?
ExplosiveDuckEggs
Wtf kind of force is measured on joules?
jake96
It's how you measure how much force was used to kick someone in the nuts.
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ExplosiveDuckEggs
Force is measured in newtons, energy is measured in joules. Completely different units
drenix
I thought Force was measured in midichlorians
shhep
FREE FORCE
ExplosiveDuckEggs
Force now self identifies as an Energy?
TastyTastyScience
7000 joules sound impressive, but that's less energy than is in a single tic tac.
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
Still, you'd have to walk at least 3 acres on 2 feet in order to burn that much energy.
TastyTastyScience
You would have to walk about 25 meters, actually. And acres measure surface area, not distance.
FiftyShadesOfMascarpone
That was my sad attempt at a joke :) Hence "on 2 feet"
ExistentialDreadlocks
That's about 8 cubic meters, then
txmount
The recoil, then, is about 70 foot-pounds of force, or 95 joules. Roughly the same as a karate-style punch to the shoulder. (2/2)
Leithoa
But a bit less harsh since the 9lb rifle takes some of that force too.
BRAAAAP4STUTUTU
95Nm? that's mental!
RetroJack
Foot-pounds??? I love the way you Americans still use the imperial system - it's so quaint! :D
thereverseapachemaster
Us, Liberia, and Burma still have our shit together.
biglongandgirthyusername
while i agree with you he did give a good example to understand how much force is behind those pounds-feet, so no issues here.
EarendilTheBlessed
he just explained it in quite good terms and that is what you focus on
Webel
Oh give him a break, he did say it was quaint. Quite the compliment, not the first thing that comes to mind when thinking of the US atm
youngmountaingoat
But people who hunt elephants are then outed and ridiculed on the internet. (and rightly so). So what's the point?
Hybris51129
There are more acceptable types of game that this cartridge than just elephants not to mention its just fun to shoot.
txmount
You could also use this round on cape buffalo, rhinos, grizzly bears, moose, and low-powered superheroes.
youngmountaingoat
Well ok. I did wonder why Americans want a gun that can shoot elephants. I had no idea Californian elephants were such a menace.
Thewulasvegas
Optimus Prime ?
Pantiesonhead
Cute toy @OP.
Insomnia297
Looks like a damn anti tank rifle
NekoMiko06
so...where'd you get that black eye?
phantomgallery
he's gonna have some serious scope eye
EnglishPolice
I love how the gun posts always rise to the top immediately following a mass shooting in 'murica... Cuz 'muh freedum.
Sapient57
I was wondering about this too.
sumowoman
Someone commented here that "shooting is like therapy". Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I'd recommend real therapy instead ofkilling 50 people.
FerretBomb
You see, it's implied that if you aren't a complete and total idiot, you'd go out and shoot things that *aren't* people.
graehall
They're weirdly ok with the whole cycle of gun violence & ideology. Pro gun posts post massacre angry wrong terms being used are weirdest.
ThatGuyWhoSaysIWouldALot
Literally have no idea what you're trying to say here.
graehall
Posts from pro gun people, post massacre, being all angry that a gun is called an assault rifle, angry at terminology. They're weirdos yo.
JBPrewittWorldsGreatestHandModel
Dude just say after-massacre. Stop repeating the word post.
graehall
It's one of those awkward phrasings you only realise post posting about posts post postal events :P
JBPrewittWorldsGreatestHandModel
Learn to write better before you get all preachy. It's 140 characters, do some googling about hyphens, they're super rad
graehall
I wrote poorly here, it made me reflect on my post history, on my profile, and how I should focus more on writing.
Itsalrighttobeconservative
And you’re weirdly ok with letting people who kill you with vans and nail bombs mass immigrate, but who’s keeping record?
JBPrewittWorldsGreatestHandModel
Really good try Mr.fggt. you clearly did your best! Sadly, seeing how you ended up, u can tell ur mom I'm gon start using condoms with her
graehall
Hey, you can do better than this "you criticised x that means you must believe absurd y!" shtick. I believe in you. You dumbass :P
GerManiac77
Freedom to get shot by any idiot that can easily buy any gun at a gun show anytime? I am totally pro freedom, but that seems to much for me.
BklynPunisher
Sorry to inform you, but you can’t just go to a gun show and buy any gun. There are still background checks. Know the facts.
GerManiac77
I ve seen the facts. German TV tested it with hidden camera. No background check and under a hour they got 5 full automatic assault rifles
BigTex1
Post the link.
GerManiac77
Can’t find a link, was a story in German tv. But it was very similar to this one. https://youtu.be/A51Gr0zpX_c
joesmith369
No they didn't.
BklynPunisher
Maybe in Germany but not in the US
FerretBomb
Are you sure they weren't "buying" from their own staff members? EU media has a bad rep over here, after a tendency to do things like that.
therealpdawg
A mass shooting stopped by two civilians, one of whom was armed with a hunting rifle.
scrim4
26 people dead before someone started shooting at him. Totally balances shit out, right cunt?
EnglishPolice
https://imgur.com/lNUh0uV
Redrunner36
I think it was an AR-15 (also great for hunting due to it's weight and caliber for mid sized game)
Individualsocksinthewashingmachine
Well that justifies it then
Syralight
But how many people want to ban hunting rifles?
OverpricedCrayon
The argument for that is "good luck killing 50 people from across the street 20 floors up with a hunting knife"
therealpdawg
Everyone who thinks black plastic makes a gun scarier. Besides, there are already thousands of gun laws - one or two more will do nothing.
OverpricedCrayon
One law changed things for Australia. Laws make a lot of difference
therealpdawg
One law changed things for Kennesaw, Ga, also. And it's easier to control imports to an island than to a country with lots of borderland.
therealpdawg
See, people who are going to murder people generally don't care about breaking the law. And banning things just makes them more lucrative, /
therealpdawg
It doesn't make them disappear. See: Drugs
Cathenbutts
Y’all have mass murders and shootings over and over again but still you praise the guns and talk about them like they’re toys...
Beeseik
I'll be honest here, Cath. I care more about my nation's liberties than the lives lost in those shootings. There's too many people anyway.
ChanCat
maybe ya'll should ban box trucks?
Shamwowser
Actually we are in an all time low of gun violence and an all time high for gun ownership, the only reason we are viewed to have lots of gun
scrim4
*for America. In Europe we just don't have this shit happening, period. Despite having former and current war zones just a days drive away.
Shamwowser
How many terrorist attacks involving guns have you had in the last couple years? How many has America had?
scrim4
We've had 7 of those in total. In the US I counted 33. And Europe has a population more than twice as large.
Shamwowser
33 mass shootings or terrorist attacks?
Shamwowser
violence is because the media presents it in a way.
debunker
Also because compared to every other industrialized nation on earth, the US leads in the gun death ratio .. by A LOT.
GerManiac77
We still sell cars, trucks and flight tickets, do we?
Eastfield
Yes, and they are highly regulated.
FourOrangeCircles
Like it or not, the U.S. Constitution makes gun ownership a right. Driving is a privilege. Privileges can be regulated, but rights cannot.
joesmith369
Incorrect. The Constitution does nothing of the sort. Our rights are ours, naturally. The Constitution is there to guarantee our rights 1/2
joesmith369
2/2 against infringement by the Government.
Eastfield
Yet there are regulations on guns in every US state already...?
FourOrangeCircles
Yes. And that has been a point of contention for a long time. Federally, though, it's still a right. Changing that would take an amendment.
VinnieJonesDiary
But cars and planes do something other than kill things. I've never driven to work on a handgun.
Redrunner36
Are you driving an Automatic?
GerManiac77
For hunting or protection guns are ok. But not everybody should be able to own one
Pantiesonhead
The guns are not the problem. They are just machines.
handysmerf
That you let any fool buy any time they want.
BklynPunisher
MidgetRacer8192
except this guy was banned from owning guns, yet here we are.
scrim4
I mean, if I was banned from buying candy, but could just go to a candy show and buy candy from second hand without check ups...
MidgetRacer8192
but you were still banned from buying candy, anyone selling you candy would be illegal & you possessing candy is illegal.
endrsgm
and so it is with a car. thats the single most dangerous thing most people will ever own.
CGriffo124
Cars were designed and produced for transport. Remind me what were guns designed to do again?
endrsgm
obviously to be shot. but nice way to try to flip the convo. more people die from cars every day than guns.
LupusLilium
Ensure your ability to have this conversation.
Zasumbadji
I agree that car control is very important; license requirement, registration, insurance, etc. Gun control is also important.
CGriffo124
Remember when UK and Australia banned guns, so instead we started having mass neck snappings at schools?.. Wait, that's not what happened...
Pantiesonhead
Yeah. How are those stabbings and acid attacks serving you?
CGriffo124
Much better than worrying if my kids will get shot at school. How's your murder rate that's 4x higher than any other western country?
Hybris51129
Considering we are way bigger than just about any other western country its understandable that we have more murders and then on top of (1)
Pantiesonhead
Atleast we dont live in a police state where the goverment treats us like we are braindead vegetables. Take a long look into that CCTV camer
nextgenpants
The ban had little to no effect on your overall homicide rate though. It was falling pre-ban, had a small spike after, and then continued 1/