Maybe not, but there is still a difference between the ones that are willing to put up pride displays and the ones who are not. If we ARE to "vote with our wallet", we want them to learn that supporting tolerance is more profitable than supporting bigotry.
That being said, we also have to peer behind the curtain: if they're not backing up their displays with deeds, then they're straight up lying and should be avoided. But if they are supporting LGBT+ tolerance, then go for it. We want that.
Heh, I remember working for a company that was very actively promoting all the LGTBIQ stuff for pride month, talked nonstop about inclusion being an ingrained part of their culture, women's rights, etc. (to a point of getting somewhat annoying because they were clearly doing it only for self-promotion). Came trump, and whoosh, all that "tightly ingrained culture" suddenly vanished like thin smoke. Glad to hear some brands at least do really support it.
It wasn’t a fit thing for me. I’ve been buying the same pair of shoes over and over for at least 15 years (the black and white low tops). They used to last 2 years, now they barely make it 6 months. I quit buying them bc they aren’t good anymore. But guess what. I’ll buy them every 6 months for this shit. That is fantastic news and they deserve support, hopefully they quit messing up their product though.
Had the same problem with Vans and Taos too. Now I wear boots, but that's a mix of "tired of sneakers being enshittified" and "why wear sneakers if I don't have to"
Hey now. You did say you used to wear them and stopped. The commenter is suggesting you could donate them without even knowing your financial situation or if you even own the shoes anymore. It's a suggestion, not an attack on your life
People complain about Rainbow Capitalism, but idgaf, if a company still is willing to show they give a fuck about equality rather than hiding from fear of bigots, I say good on them.
If they're still willing to do it in the US in the current environment, then I'd argue it's at least not *entirely* performative anymore. Likely still being done based on financial metrics and they think they'll make more money by supporting it, but it's not like there's zero risk for doing so anymore, so it's something.
Doesn't take away from *other* problems they may have, like sweatshop labour and so on, but stopped clock and all that.
I had vans awhile back. I put arches in them to help support my feet. That shit still hurt everytime I walked, so I only wore them a handful of times. If they made practical shoes, I would buy them.
I've found the newer styles, especially the platforms, much comfier and have a bit of a wider width. The Run Star Hikes are my fave. Much wider and cushier than standard Chucks.
Consider it from this angle: Would you prefer it if they stopped the displays?
As long as they're not contradicting the displays with anti-LGBT+ actions behind the scenes, I say it's a good thing.
We gotta get our shoes from somewhere, and local cobblers are... very rare. (And technically not immune to bigotry themselves, especially in certain areas.)
I wish Converse shoes weren't fucking foot ovens or I'd buy the shit out of them. They've maad some of the coolest shoes I ever owned, but only ever wore em a few times because they cook my tootsies
As others pointed out, they have some knits now that might be appealing. And a few years back they did a few Flyknits, I still see plenty of dead stock show up on those
Thank you! I had a pair of Spiderman converse that I could never wear because they were so hot. They do the coolest frickin shoes, I will check those out!
We should also remember all the companies who have kowtowed to trump's neo-nazi regime and scaled back or stopped their support for LGBTQ+ causes incl. Pride event sponsorship/funding. Such as Google, Comcast, Adidas, Nissan, Mastercard and Home Depot. Target already caved to right-wing threats in 2023 and scaled back Pride Month merchandise. And hundreds of corporations have complied with trump's anti-DEI demands w/o putting up any legal fight whatsoever. Including Google (again), IBM, Pepsi, …
PS: In the light of this, maybe we can skip the usual annual BS here on imgur where people mock corporate LGBTQ+ support & remind us that these companies only want our money. Nobody bothers posting this about their straight'n'cis-targeted advertising the rest of the year, but as soon as they're a bit more inclusive it seems to piss people off and they feel the urge to tell us that no one really cares. Maybe we can simply not do that this year. Every little bit of visibility helps in these times.
I agree with you, but the reason that people don't do that for the straight'n'cis-targeted advertising is that those are usually not saying "we are allies who support your straight'n'cis identity, so you should buy from us!" but just "here is some stuff designed to appeal to your straight'n'cis identity that we hope will make you buy our stuff." There's usually no social dimension to such advertising.
It's not even "here's stuff designed to appeal to your straight/cis identity" 99.999% of the time. It's more like "we aren't even going to bother marketing this with any specific sexuality or 'cis vs trans' demographic in mind, because we don't need to. People will buy it."
That's what can make the pride advertising feel insulting, it feels like "here's a thing that's just for you because you're special and we love you (for exactly 1 month, then you don't matter anymore). Gib money pls"
I bought shares in Costco back when my wife and I finally got out of student loan debt. I was looking for something I wouldn't feel bad about supporting, and this article came out about how high the average wages there were and how they have benefits and basically sell actual products at cost with corporate profits equalling the membership dues. Glad to still be holding those shares.
A regular employee ends up making over $70k a year, gets free therapy for their entire household (roommates included), $15 copay on most health visits, (I was in the hospital for a month last year and only paid around $1000 out of pocket), the work is rather easy though repetitive.
You'll likely see the same faces at your local Costco for years since the turnover rate is very low. They promote from within.
Yeah, I don't buy Nike. Period. Puma is usually my choice from the big three. Also their stuff fits my build better. I try to buy stuff made in Europe but it is sometimes pretty difficult or horribly expensive.
Converse Enthusiast/Collector here- If you haven’t already, you may want to models from their 70s lines, little more expensive, lot more comfortable- albeit without strong arch support. If you go Custom, you can get inserts that are also a nice improvement, but because they are “custom” not a thing you can try before buy. The pride lines are all “Custom”. If you’re in to secondary used/dead stock market, for good arch support look for the models with the lunarlon insert (chuck taylor II)
It’s gotten a little better, but still frustrating. A lot of the “women” focused SKUs stop short of the size I need, even the ones that are the unisex last (not the women specific narrower style)
Do you have any recommendations for arch supports? Because whenever I use them, they push my foot up into the tongue and laces, so my feet fall asleep. Basically cutting off blood flow. I’ve even tried really thin ones. Maybe my feet are just whacked.
Yes, 100%, but after that, unless you steam roll your foot, there is never enough room for the orthotic AND your foot. Even with running shoes I need to rip out half the insides to get both in, and cons don't have enough stuff inside to rip out
I use Feel Your Soul. It's US based. Haven't tried to get new ones since I vacated the US in 2022,so can't speak to availability if you're not in the US
Goddamnit, you just opened another can of worms. Vacated the US. I would like to vacate the US as well AND get arch support for Converse shoes. In the meantime, I’ll look into the arch supports. Thanks for the suggestion.
Inserts into shoes are game changing. Skip the generic dr schoals and look into getting more premium inserts that can cost $50-100. They'll form to your feet via heat (like using your toaster oven) or some premium shoe stores can do it for you in-store. Also FSA eligible. Expensive but theyll last multiple shoes.
TheLiteraryMachine
I like the style, but I have high arches and I'm not keen to have to buy arch support when shoes with foam soles already exist...
lonelyrangerofthedreams
Companies defined that participating in that rainbow hypocrisy was not relevant for their quarter balances, so they quit.

Thought companies really cared about people?
thanatos777
https://imgur.com/Bac2CCh
SomeGuyWhoSaysStuff
I wore nothing but converse for years, but they are falling apart more easily, the quality has gone way down in recent years
BenderRodriguz1010
Eggcellent
fformulaa
yalczero
I would but very few people produce/carry size 15 so I have to buy what I can get.
unluckyandbored
I've always loved the look of Converse, but for my feet they are extremely uncomfortable.
Ivalicenyan
No ethical consumption under capitalism
DukeDarkwood
Maybe not, but there is still a difference between the ones that are willing to put up pride displays and the ones who are not. If we ARE to "vote with our wallet", we want them to learn that supporting tolerance is more profitable than supporting bigotry.
That being said, we also have to peer behind the curtain: if they're not backing up their displays with deeds, then they're straight up lying and should be avoided. But if they are supporting LGBT+ tolerance, then go for it. We want that.
cousteau
Heh, I remember working for a company that was very actively promoting all the LGTBIQ stuff for pride month, talked nonstop about inclusion being an ingrained part of their culture, women's rights, etc. (to a point of getting somewhat annoying because they were clearly doing it only for self-promotion). Came trump, and whoosh, all that "tightly ingrained culture" suddenly vanished like thin smoke. Glad to hear some brands at least do really support it.
RevolutionOnHerLips
love those shoes with the progress pride flag, wish I could afford 'em
FrenziiTheIMP
My Converse are my favorite shoes, such a timeless look that can go with pretty much any outfit
mikeatike
I got a Queerty keyboard.
EveryBodyLovesMe
It wasn’t a fit thing for me. I’ve been buying the same pair of shoes over and over for at least 15 years (the black and white low tops). They used to last 2 years, now they barely make it 6 months. I quit buying them bc they aren’t good anymore. But guess what. I’ll buy them every 6 months for this shit. That is fantastic news and they deserve support, hopefully they quit messing up their product though.
wanjeonhanwalwal
Had the same problem with Vans and Taos too. Now I wear boots, but that's a mix of "tired of sneakers being enshittified" and "why wear sneakers if I don't have to"
Ainomiadue
Their Malden line is a bit more padded. They're my go-to!
adrianenspired
make sure you're looking at their political contributions in addition to their marketing.
rafizard
I need high arch and wide shoes. That's why I had to stop wearing converse.
radishcat
They have wide options available now 😊 No high arch tho, maybe inlays might work?
thericfactor
Really? I used to love my Converse as a kid but now that I’m old my feet need a wide shoe. I’m going to check them out right now.
ArchSchnitz
They don't fit my wide-ass feet, which is the primary reason I don't wear Converse. Should get another pair for my daughter.
Margrave9000
That's not a good excuse. You can still buy a few and DONATE them to other humans experiencing a needful situation.
rafizard
I work in a grocery store and live in America. I am in a needful situation. Fuck off with the guilt trip.
LifeWouldBeEasyIfIWereEasyButLifeIsHardAndSoAmI
Hey now. You did say you used to wear them and stopped. The commenter is suggesting you could donate them without even knowing your financial situation or if you even own the shoes anymore. It's a suggestion, not an attack on your life
Cranbananarama
All the people out there with their dainty feet ruining the shoe market for us hobbits!
mikeatike
Same reason I stopped wearing Vans. I might look like a white dad wearing New Balance shoes, but I don't get cramps in my arches anynore.
TacoPoweredHelicopter
I need me some flat ass arches, no arch maybe ideal.
509tigerfish
I want a pair!
GRZMNKY
Don't forget that Nike owns Converse now, and they also support our friends and allies.
JTechnopotheosis
Study Links Nike, Adidas And Apple To Forced Uighur Labor: https://www.forbes.com/sites/siminamistreanu/2020/03/02/study-links-nike-adidas-and-apple-to-forced-uighur-labor/
ethicalinfant
Nike saved Converse from bankruptcy quite a long time ago! And then let them just exist as their own brand, which I really love about the whole thing.
Secondmonth
Aw but Nike slashed the wages of their elite athletes when they got pregnant so I've been boycotting them
bourbonandbaddecisions
My initial thought was those look sick. I wonder if my gay kid would like them.
pixelsnader
Ask them?
ToweringLilly
People complain about Rainbow Capitalism, but idgaf, if a company still is willing to show they give a fuck about equality rather than hiding from fear of bigots, I say good on them.
JTechnopotheosis
https://www.forbes.com/sites/siminamistreanu/2020/03/02/study-links-nike-adidas-and-apple-to-forced-uighur-labor/
Forosnai
If they're still willing to do it in the US in the current environment, then I'd argue it's at least not *entirely* performative anymore. Likely still being done based on financial metrics and they think they'll make more money by supporting it, but it's not like there's zero risk for doing so anymore, so it's something.
Doesn't take away from *other* problems they may have, like sweatshop labour and so on, but stopped clock and all that.
rfleming1080
I had vans awhile back. I put arches in them to help support my feet. That shit still hurt everytime I walked, so I only wore them a handful of times. If they made practical shoes, I would buy them.
isetprettygirlsonfire
I wish converse fit my feet, would love some. I had to quit wearing them in HS because I have hard to fit feet
TChallaVanDam
Come check back in on this comment section. Lots of ideas and discussions about that.
isetprettygirlsonfire
If they don't fit, they don't fit. Not much you can do about it
TChallaVanDam
Fair enough. Just thought it’d be worth pointing out in case it helped.
isetprettygirlsonfire
Thanks for the effort though!
barstr7
I've found the newer styles, especially the platforms, much comfier and have a bit of a wider width. The Run Star Hikes are my fave. Much wider and cushier than standard Chucks.
fillerbunny9
Rainbow capitalism is getting less and less safe, if they’re still participating there’s at least a chance there’s some ethics backing them up.
JTechnopotheosis
https://www.forbes.com/sites/siminamistreanu/2020/03/02/study-links-nike-adidas-and-apple-to-forced-uighur-labor/
Ohdearaudrey
Not really a rebellion though, they have been doing this for pride month for like a decade now
JadeNB1729
... and do you notice that the US is in a different place politically now from where it was a decade ago?
Ohdearaudrey
Hey, frame it however makes you happy boss. Just pointing out the facts.
DukeDarkwood
Consider it from this angle: Would you prefer it if they stopped the displays?
As long as they're not contradicting the displays with anti-LGBT+ actions behind the scenes, I say it's a good thing.
We gotta get our shoes from somewhere, and local cobblers are... very rare. (And technically not immune to bigotry themselves, especially in certain areas.)
GwensBackOnHerBS
Dogs usually don't wear shoes.
andrewgrr1
I wish Converse shoes weren't fucking foot ovens or I'd buy the shit out of them. They've maad some of the coolest shoes I ever owned, but only ever wore em a few times because they cook my tootsies
JTechnopotheosis
I wish they weren't made using child labor in 3rd world sweatshops.
themrchristian
As others pointed out, they have some knits now that might be appealing. And a few years back they did a few Flyknits, I still see plenty of dead stock show up on those
JadeNB1729
Hmm, maybe you should choose a different adjective for foot ovens than "coolest."
andrewgrr1
Aight. Does "neatest" sate your pedantry?
JadeNB1729
My pedantry is insatiable.
ethicalinfant
check out the new knit ones - they are stretchy one-piece uppers so they are breathable and they are super effing comfy. I love my converse so much.
andrewgrr1
Thank you! I had a pair of Spiderman converse that I could never wear because they were so hot. They do the coolest frickin shoes, I will check those out!
FiftyShadesOfTiramisu
We should also remember all the companies who have kowtowed to trump's neo-nazi regime and scaled back or stopped their support for LGBTQ+ causes incl. Pride event sponsorship/funding. Such as Google, Comcast, Adidas, Nissan, Mastercard and Home Depot. Target already caved to right-wing threats in 2023 and scaled back Pride Month merchandise. And hundreds of corporations have complied with trump's anti-DEI demands w/o putting up any legal fight whatsoever. Including Google (again), IBM, Pepsi, …
FiftyShadesOfTiramisu
Coca-Cola, McDonald's, Meta, Amazon, Disney, Warner Bros. Discovery, Paramount, PBS, Boeing, Walmart, Intel, PayPal, Chipotle, Ford, Lowe's, Target & Comcast (again), Bank of America, Amtrak, Citigroup, JPMorgan Chase, Morgan Stanley, BlackRock, Victoria's Secret, UnitedHealth, Goldman Sachs, the Smithsonian, Brown-Forman (Jack Daniel's), Constellation Brands (Corona / Modelo Especial), Molson Coors, Harley-Davidson, and John Deere. John Deere also stopped supporting Pride events. Fuck them all.
FiftyShadesOfTiramisu
PS: In the light of this, maybe we can skip the usual annual BS here on imgur where people mock corporate LGBTQ+ support & remind us that these companies only want our money. Nobody bothers posting this about their straight'n'cis-targeted advertising the rest of the year, but as soon as they're a bit more inclusive it seems to piss people off and they feel the urge to tell us that no one really cares. Maybe we can simply not do that this year. Every little bit of visibility helps in these times.
JadeNB1729
I agree with you, but the reason that people don't do that for the straight'n'cis-targeted advertising is that those are usually not saying "we are allies who support your straight'n'cis identity, so you should buy from us!" but just "here is some stuff designed to appeal to your straight'n'cis identity that we hope will make you buy our stuff." There's usually no social dimension to such advertising.
Badprenup
It's not even "here's stuff designed to appeal to your straight/cis identity" 99.999% of the time. It's more like "we aren't even going to bother marketing this with any specific sexuality or 'cis vs trans' demographic in mind, because we don't need to. People will buy it."
That's what can make the pride advertising feel insulting, it feels like "here's a thing that's just for you because you're special and we love you (for exactly 1 month, then you don't matter anymore). Gib money pls"
LifeWouldBeEasyIfIWereEasyButLifeIsHardAndSoAmI
Not Costco. Costco didn't even attempt to bow down. They doubled down and sued
FiftyShadesOfTiramisu
Oh, you're right. There's a bit at the end about the select few companies didn't back down, which is where I must have read Costco. Should have read more closely. https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2025/04/11/ibm-reportedly-walks-back-diversity-policies-citing-inherent-tensions-here-are-all-the-companies-rolling-back-dei-programs/
Evenmoreuselessname
I bought shares in Costco back when my wife and I finally got out of student loan debt. I was looking for something I wouldn't feel bad about supporting, and this article came out about how high the average wages there were and how they have benefits and basically sell actual products at cost with corporate profits equalling the membership dues. Glad to still be holding those shares.
LifeWouldBeEasyIfIWereEasyButLifeIsHardAndSoAmI
A regular employee ends up making over $70k a year, gets free therapy for their entire household (roommates included), $15 copay on most health visits, (I was in the hospital for a month last year and only paid around $1000 out of pocket), the work is rather easy though repetitive.
You'll likely see the same faces at your local Costco for years since the turnover rate is very low. They promote from within.
Evenmoreuselessname
Yep. If they ever change, I'll sell. I like their long-term outlook on their employees (and by extension, their business)
StankStankitus
Or, buy a majority share of those companies and issue corporate directives. Or, both? BOTH! ALL FRONTS!
BobWeAdaBabyEetsAboy
Reading the comments before commenting… Converse shoes don’t support every foot… but they support every person attached to those feet.
JTechnopotheosis
Does that include the 3rd world children who make their products?
smashpro1
And, FYI, Converse is a subsidiary of Nike.
Toqom
Since 2003. Nike is one of the worst companies, with nestle one of the worst but they don't make shoes
Haemaelaeinen
Yeah, I don't buy Nike. Period. Puma is usually my choice from the big three. Also their stuff fits my build better. I try to buy stuff made in Europe but it is sometimes pretty difficult or horribly expensive.
GoddessPurpleFrost
what about feet not attached to the person? Just asking... for a friend...
Badprenup
If the shoe doesn't fit, just trim off pieces until it does
imgurianitarian
I’ve never been able to wear them but I love that other people wear them. Love is love, even if it’s simple.
EricAirheart
I wish they had higher arched shoes bc I love hightops.
Lun4ticH1gh
Their Allstar line is nice because they still look like a Chuck Taylor, but they have waayyy more support than a classic Chuck.
enjeruluca
Same! They hurt man
bourbonandbaddecisions
I too am le old
spiffylookingnerfherder
Plenty of folks in their 40s, 50s, and 60s are still rocking them.
Toqom
I believe you but never seen anyone over 20s wearing them, we have back issues that shows make worse
Toqom
I'm with you, converse have always been uncomfortable, wish they were better and I hate high tops as an adult
imakesoap
https://drfredericksoriginal.com/products/self-adhesive-metatarsal-and-arch-support-insole-gel-pads-2-pieces-generous-ball-of-foot-cushions-for-arch-support-plantar-fasciitis-more These stick to the original shoe insole so you don’t have to replace the entire thing
ThomasTheWankEnglne
get some doc scholls!
JTechnopotheosis
I wish they had wide sizes. And also that they weren't manufactured in horrible sweatshops by exploited children.
tychog99
They have a hiking assortment these days, I own some platform hightops from them that have thick enough foam insoles to form high arches inside
themrchristian
Converse Enthusiast/Collector here-
If you haven’t already, you may want to models from their 70s lines, little more expensive, lot more comfortable- albeit without strong arch support.
If you go Custom, you can get inserts that are also a nice improvement, but because they are “custom” not a thing you can try before buy. The pride lines are all “Custom”.
If you’re in to secondary used/dead stock market, for good arch support look for the models with the lunarlon insert (chuck taylor II)
TehBox0rz
Arches are lil crutches for your feets. Personally I can’t wear converse because the toes are too narrow (I need the toe splay room).
distractedFreek
I always wanted a pair of Converse, but they never had them in my size back then.
zebulorg
I have extra wide feet and they end up looking like clown shoes
Mxlespxles
Me too, but I still had a few pairs, but to get the right width they were all comically overlong and I would end up tripping up stairs constantly.
erinaceus
i broke my ankle for christmas and now wear an 11 on my left foot and a 13 on my right. will try out the hightops again and see where we re at
themrchristian
It’s gotten a little better, but still frustrating. A lot of the “women” focused SKUs stop short of the size I need, even the ones that are the unisex last (not the women specific narrower style)
DannoWaso
Converse has a pair of shoes I really, really want but they don’t come in wide. I have hobbit feet. Sad.
ilhares
Offsetting whoever downvoted you. I also had big feet (still do!), and getting a good fit can be a problem.
spiffylookingnerfherder
Back then? It's never too late.
wejustdontknow
You can buy arch support inserts. I put two in each shoe. Love skate shoes but also going for walks.
Forensickle
My orthotics and cons don't work, after they go in and give me arch support, there isn't any room left for the top of my foot
xj4low
My arch support just wore through the lining of the shoe.
DannoWaso
Do you have any recommendations for arch supports? Because whenever I use them, they push my foot up into the tongue and laces, so my feet fall asleep. Basically cutting off blood flow. I’ve even tried really thin ones. Maybe my feet are just whacked.
fatman1683
Go to a podiatrist, get your feet measured and molded, and have custom inserts made. Nothing you can buy off the shelf will compare.
Forensickle
Yes, 100%, but after that, unless you steam roll your foot, there is never enough room for the orthotic AND your foot.
Even with running shoes I need to rip out half the insides to get both in, and cons don't have enough stuff inside to rip out
fartyandbloated
I would like a recommendation too.
RAJrios
Try a different lacing pattern which relieves pressure over the arch, when wearing inserts. You can find many styles online.
webbiemoo
I use Feel Your Soul. It's US based. Haven't tried to get new ones since I vacated the US in 2022,so can't speak to availability if you're not in the US
DannoWaso
Goddamnit, you just opened another can of worms. Vacated the US. I would like to vacate the US as well AND get arch support for Converse shoes.
In the meantime, I’ll look into the arch supports. Thanks for the suggestion.
SploogeMcDuck316
Inserts into shoes are game changing. Skip the generic dr schoals and look into getting more premium inserts that can cost $50-100. They'll form to your feet via heat (like using your toaster oven) or some premium shoe stores can do it for you in-store. Also FSA eligible. Expensive but theyll last multiple shoes.
webbiemoo
If New Zealand is where you want to vacate to, New Zealand Shores is an excellent agency to help you