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Whatever your view on what's happening, this image is incredible (sorry for low res). Credit to AP via BBC: https://www.instagram.com/p/CO20DiFsPcR/?igshid=1b25cdtrdvc2n
tinyCabbage
IMO Net did this on purpose, he purposely antagonized HAMAS over some shitty part of land that no one in isreal cared about, cos it distract
tinyCabbage
from his incompetence and corruption. Israel is 100% at fault here, They caused the situation, and they're also escalating it.
Seras91
Although Israel does much wrong, they don´t need to antagonize the HAMAS
YourIceCreamMan
News story on NPR: Israel telephones as many Palestinian civilians as possible and warns them to evacuate prior to conducting air strikes.
cjandstuff
This image is haunting, disturbing, yet strangely beautiful.
SarcasticCant
I can almost guarantee someone is gonna make a fanart of this. Probably anime related
PectorialMuscles
They live in the land of the dead and don't even know it.
DamnedIfYouDo
Like your mom!... I'm sorry, I don't know why my brain made me type that...
TheBigKahuna
Makes me think of Worms Armageddon
PewterHailStorm
I now hear, faintly, the music and sounds of the game. And it puts a smile on my face
BSwann
glassware
Pity we don’t have as many good videos of Israeli police kicking out Palestinian homeowners and giving their houses to settlers
Registeredfordeuce
I feel bad for the innocent people on both sides of this conflict.
taitati
But only one side is an invasor
TheDireWolf
This is the Netanyahou government Vs Hamas. Both can get fucked, their citizens don't deserve any of this.
taitati
Not, that is like playing with words. Bpth are not wrong. Palestine is the one being wiped out and invaded. Saying both is wrong
taitati
Im european, but saying both are wring is like saying that israel is 50% good invading and killing. Is not like that
TheDireWolf
By reducing it to that you legitimise terrorism. You don't get to relativise murder.
TheDireWolf
That doesn't at all sit right with me. You can criticise that while also criticising Hamas.
Theauburnsky
Very expensive defense!
BSwann
And the US wonders why they send so much money to Israel.
Undrave
This is some sci-fi bullshit right there... It's like Macross Missile Spam!
RdLinternas
stop killing Palestinians
skellington01
Stop killing.
JinXLeD
Thank you! Where is the violence leading to? Absolutely nothing positive. Help P get a unified gov official, force all involved to sit down
JinXLeD
and effing go through ALL of each sides claims and find a solution that WORKS for both sides. I don’t care if those talks take years, but
JinXLeD
but they aren’t getting anywhere right now and civilians, innocent bystanders are getting killed all the time. I hate it.
skellington01
You what’s maddening? If you go over the matter-of-fact claims, it’s really easy to find solutions both peoples agree with. But the leaders
skellington01
iron dome in action.
imostlymadethisup
Which is which?
RoboCritter
Haha funny you should ask...
Wwannie
Me too. I was wondering who is on left and who is on right. Dunno.
ARandySavageGifForEveryOccasion
dome is left.
imostlymadethisup
Thank you
Bestiarium
Thanks!
ARandySavageGifForEveryOccasion
Literally just a guess. I assumed the iron dome system has multiple launch sites.
TheBasementNerd
I hate what the country I used to love is doing, but I'm curious, which side of this pic is which. What's the interceptors?
TheDireWolf
Left is Israel. I really don't think there's a good side in this situation.
Lurkninja
These gender reveal parties are getting out of hand
girlfartjapan
Ah the long awaited apocalypse gender.
imgurschmimgur
It's a biblical apocalypse!
semper5awesome
But...what gender is this one?
ministryofpeace
War
Ultin8
Chaos
euphoricopportunity
There xan be only one (gender highlander).
euphoricopportunity
That's just no sequitur humor after a few drinks. I don't actually have a point here.
BSwann
Got to be conjoined twin boys...dicks on both sides
ChiliBeef
semper5awesome
The beauty and depth of this comment is stunning. Well done
BSwann
rowanmc
"It's a goy!"
getotterhere
Can anyone explain what exactly is going on? I’m confused about the whole ordeal
QT3pt141592653
It's the iron dome, Isreal's missile defense system in action.
Strayan101
At this point, im just waiting for the scary counterstrike responce. You just don't fuck with Israel.
gingerprince89
Which side is which?
Mobileuserwholikestoberandom
Didn’t Regan want to install a similar system back in the day?
Endocrom
Star wars, the original Jewish space lasers (but being Regan it would be Presbyterian space lasers)
Loadie25
Real life version of missal command
CycloneSP
apparently missile command was designed to tell a story of despair as resources dwindle and the onslaught doesn't abate and you are forced
CycloneSP
to decide which cities live and which ones die, ultimately to completely fail to protect anything at all in the end
JackBeak
Big time yikes
3wattbulb
*mizzal
i18736524742069
Killed it
VidiVeniThenSheLeft
*mishizzle
ChiliBeef
Mishizzle Commizzle.
etcnotect
Mazel tov*
LaoBeifong
Wonder where they’re firing from….
Unicorngamingbutts365
Palestinian people can’t even flee. They are blockaded in. They are literally being killed for land. #freepalestine
DougDeNasty
They are pawns, a small minority used for political gains by other nations. Basically cannon fodder.
zenoshogun
You might want yo ask Egypt who has a border with them why that us the case...
WhatAreYouTalkingAboutEh
I don't think the situation there is that simple
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rulek
People resort to terrorism as last resort when confronted with such oppression. You would to.
TheFeralDog
Yeah no don't try excuse terrorism you absolute piece of shit
Unicorngamingbutts365
Right. Like Israel is a country. That’s it. They’ve been killing and stealing from the Palestinians for decades. War criminals#freepalestine
TheFeralDog
As has Palestine. It's a two way street. Israel has just had the upper hand for the past while, but that has not always been the case
TheFeralDog
The point in that being if Palestine had the upper hand they would do the same if not worse through Hamas
A2DY79
I used to be pro-Palestinian. After educating myself better about the history and their societal fuckery, I switched to being pro-Israel.
PavelNova
I think any human with a little bit of empathy and intellectual honesty is more pro-Palestinian if they actually read up on the conflict.
A2DY79
The Arab nations expelled more Jews than Palestinians, yet Israel absorbed them and didn't keep them refugees. The Palestinians also (cont)
A2DY79
also were not expelled. Israel asked them to stay, but at the demand of religious leaders, they fled their homes during the fighting.
A2DY79
Furthermore, hardline Palestinian leaders have a long history of killing more moderate Palestinians. That's how Arafat rose to power.
skellington01
As an Israeli, you shouldn’t be pro no one. Both sides are wrong.
A2DY79
The Palestinians (and their surrounding Arab neighbors) have had many chances to improve their situation.
Unicorngamingbutts365
I’m sorry that you’re pro Israel. I guess if you really want something ethnic cleansing is the way to go.
RyanAndTheQuestForWorldDomination
Hamas certainly believes that. Even children aren’t to be spared according to their doctrine. Both sides are fucked up on that front.
skellington01
Criticizing Palestinians isn’t being pro-Israel.
TheEmeraldProphylactic
The BBC image is credited to the AP
TheDireWolf
Thanks I'll update the post
friedonius
humans
nzscoria
Scary Sad
Teeface
Cue the 'ItS NoT FaIr', how dare Israel defend itself, right?
Galdrack
Having the Iron Dome is fine. It's the whole assaulting Muslims praying and then drone striking homes people have issues with.
Galdrack
Also the Genocide that's a biggie too.
mustardcutter
Anyone knows which side is Israel and which side is Palestine?
t00tie
Yes: they're both Evil.
WarpHype
They’re both killing a lot of people. It’s like the hatfields and mccoys. The fighting has been going on so long.
justarocknroller
The squiggly ones are the iron dome rockets
BelgianGuy
Israël at the left (missiles are searching targets), Gaza at the right (straight lines )
WhatAreYouTalkingAboutEh
unguided rockets are Palestine, the guided ones are from the Israel's iron dome
Howlingowl
The rockets on the left (that prevent the rockets on the right from finding their targets) are Israeli. The rockets on the right that 1)
Howlingowl
were fired randomly so they would rain down on heavily populated civilian areas are Palestinian 2)
Vatafeo
No one does, thats the whole reason they fight
IAmTheToastyOhs
Funny thing that.
mustardcutter
Sorry, can you explain...for my friend?
JonnyBasterd
Comment of the year right here
mynamespaul
This is the funniest comment I’ve seen here in a long time. Well done.
TheTeenageMutantNinjaTurtles
Just drag everyone out of the area and make it a nuclear wasteland. Bam, no more fighting.
normalizebeingalone
Move them somewhere else where other people already are and tell them thats their place but it's also the other people's place and oh.right.
normalizebeingalone
[HUGE OVERSIMPLIFICATION ACKNOWLEDGED]
iamalumberjackandiamok
Way too many people going "both sides are at fault" here, when you have an invader (Israel) trying to take over West Bank . Jeeze !
taitati
Jews now doing nazis things, crazy
JapAnus
Way too many people going "both sides are at fault" here, when you have an invader (Hamas) trying to commit literal genocide. Jeeze!
TheGrayBox
How does a person get something so fucking backwards...
skellington01
Obviously you’re uneducated on the matter.
taitati
But only one side is invasor
KaoruVanity
My logic is just... When known, confirmed terrorist orgs back one side. Its easier to side with the other.
TheGrayBox
Are you just completely unfamiliar with the modern history of Israel? Or Mossad? In any other society, Hamas would be called revolutionaries
TheGrayBox
which just happens to work especially well because they are also primarily Muslim.
KaoruVanity
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-13331522 Its recognized as a terrorist org by many nations.
TheGrayBox
Of course, but that doesn’t change the power dynamics. The Israeli government uses the same tactics but worse, what do you call them?
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
Well america has toppled how many democratic govs in favor of usa aligned dictators? And we most certainly back Israel.
xyrax
Americans, especially religious ones are absolutely a-okay with the genocide happening to Palestinians dude. Its gross but its fucking true.
PectorialMuscles
We aren't okay. Some are. They are un-American.
Emperorkrulos
well yeah, they fund it.
Wolfslapper
Zionism is real strong here. I have Jewish friends speaking out on behalf of P and their own families/communities tear into them for it :(
ItsM4rtytime
Palestine instigated the whole thing but everyone forgets that. Now it's a generational war with no side willing to back down.
inboxmefoxes
Israel was given land after WWII without Palestine's involvement, and has continued to take more and more of their land.
zenoshogun
Palestine was included, but rejected it as they thought they could just kill everyone and take it all, didn't work too well for them.
inboxmefoxes
They pretend to support a two-state solution but continue to steal more and more land.
JarvisMagnus
What is Iron Dome?
Pacifism
Iron Dome is Isreal's anti-air defence that intercepts incoming projectiles. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Dome
HPCertTechGuy
Raytheon system, launches from ordinary looking trailers near border. Still falls to the ground after interception but obv preferred over ?
connectingthedots
Locally developed in Israel by Rafael. They're just partnered with Raytheon to market and produce in the US.
BichesLoveMy120mmSabotPracticeRound
So let me get this straight, these fucks just chuck missiles at each other's urban centers pretty much targeting civilians?
Galdrack
Well no. Most incidents in recent times have had Israel provoking responses by Palestine then responding with much heavier bombing.
TheDireWolf
In this image one is firing missiles, the other is intercepting them. The Netanyahou government is still quite indiscriminate though.
BichesLoveMy120mmSabotPracticeRound
No no i get what's going on in the image. What i don't get is what's really going on in general.
TheDireWolf
Ah I see, yeah to be honest 99.9% of people including myself don't really know enough to comment. Just hope one day there's peace.
RolsomPolbert
No. Palestinians firing rockets at Israeli cities. Israeli iron dome is intercepting those rockets.
NPSM365
Down with Israeli apartheid. Free Palestine.
ilyasInternetSmuggler
The amount of downvotes here when calling out Israel for Apartheid. Evicting only Palestinians for 73 years multiple times. Is Apartheid
ilyasInternetSmuggler
Muslims from Jordan or Lebabon can't move to the Palestinian WestBank to live. Jews can move in from anywhere in the world. Apartheid.
zenoshogun
So how many Jews can emigrate to Jordan or Lebanon from anywhere?
ilyasInternetSmuggler
Ignorant dickw@d. Muslims can't move to the Palestinian Authority area in the west Bank you Apartheid fcuk.
ilyasInternetSmuggler
So Israel can Ethnically cleanse it for Israeli jews. Fcuking racist d!ck.
NPSM365
I figure the downvoters are just ignorant and not worth consideration. ?
taitati
Jews are the new nazis. Insane. Now they wipe out other countries as they suffered before. It sucks
taitati
They didnt learn anything about violence, crazy
NPSM365
It's stated that they studied the Nazis tactics; a military leader stated all tactics must be studied including the Warsaw Ghetto.
taitati
Jesuchrist.....
Peynus
Both sides are absolutely fucked, but Hamas should really try to invest in something other than missiles and religious extremism
barnwolf
I'm sure they would... if Israel would agree to pardon all Hamas commanders, put their own up for war crimes, leave, and recognize Palestine
barnwolf
So practically speaking, never going to happen, because pretty sure Israel isn't going to compromise on any of those issues.
BlastingRopeToWaluigiHentai
Hard to invest in that when your investors (Iran) demand violence and extremism.
Cedr3000
You know Hamas invests in schools, housing,... That's partly why they have such a strong base.
FelixG
Step 1, station missile and mortar teams in schools/housing, step 2, places get bombed to stop attacks, step 3 rebuild and look like hero 1/
FelixG
to idiots on the internet/locals 2/2
Rivthis
They get those missiles for free from Iran. Iran got pallets of cash from Obama/Kerry. The US bought Hamas rockets.
VidiVeniThenSheLeft
Yeah, who do they think they are, the GOP?
RackhamTheRed
that's like asking McD to invest in something not burgery
lalalalsblablabal
Hamas really are assholes but let’s not forget forget that they are product of occupation and systematic mistreatment of Palestinians.
haroldmann
They are the product of the Muslim Brotherhood, the occupation happens to be an excuse
mercyPandaRunner
Former Israeli military governor of Gaza Yitzhak Segev and some other involved Israeli officials have gone on record that they were - >
mercyPandaRunner
instructed to funnel 'military budget' directly to early Hamas. Saying that Hamas was intended as a counterweight to the PLO to disrupt - >
mercyPandaRunner
the organization of the Palestinian opposition movement. That's definitely what Hamas succeeded in.
KillerTofu615
How about give palestinians back their land, end a thousand year occupation and tell the jews to go elsewhere.
TheFeralDog
It's not their land it's been both countries lands numerous times throughout history literally how wars work is if you win you get the land
rulek
It's a last resort. Any other population would end up like that under those circumstances.
BSwann
That $100 million spent on rockets and tunnels sure could've bought a lot of vaccines.
drh1138
Yeah because nicely asking Israel to stop the annexations out of the goodness of their hearts is going so swimmingly.
BednaR
At the same time occupants forces are pushing into Palestine territory every week, demolishing local peoples houses taking land bit by bit
IKnowWhatImWorth
Oh yeah definitely Hamas' fault for firing rockets after they're being evicted and forced from their homes illegally.
FnordGallop
Israel doesn't occupy Gaza. Hamas rules Gaza. Hamas fires rockets into Israel, Israel shoots back. Baby kills man, Baby dies, dog inherits
FnordGallop
the earth.
IKnowWhatImWorth
What is this absolute horse shit? They're blockaded and constantly having their homes seized. Stfu.
FnordGallop
Not in Gaza. Israel isn't occupying Gaza. Israel does block shipment of war materiel into Gaza for what should be obvious reasons.
IKnowWhatImWorth
HR orgs around the world have stated what Israel is doing fall under apartheid and war crimes BUT YES HAMAS TRYING TO DETER THEM IS BAD.
KleptoKea
But if they spend all the billions of aid the world and Israel give them on giving Palestinians a good life, 1/
KleptoKea
they won't want a war with Israel anymore. Then what will become of Hamas's genocidal dreams of wiping every Jew off the Earth? 2/2
mercyPandaRunner
1.Hamas was probably deliberately funded to disrupt Palestinian organization. Sounds like a conspiracy theory, but several Israeli >
Cattbutt
The only comment here that didn't get a downvote!! Hoorah!
mercyPandaRunner
Officials that were involved, military governor of Gaza Yitzhak Segev and religious affairs official Anver Cohen, went on record and con->
mercyPandaRunner
firmed it. Since Hamas rose to significance, Palestinian organization has been paralyzed in a deadlock between Hamas an PLO. Meanwhile-
mercyPandaRunner
Israeli gvt started to openly support the settler movement and took over most of the Palestinian territories in the absence of coordinated >
mercyPandaRunner
resistance. Hamas is always the primary excuse to not enter serious peace talks. I know I sound like a nut now, but that's pretty prece-
TheDireWolf
Might be a crazy suggestion- but how about stable governance? Sounds extreme, I know. One can only hope.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
How? They don't have anything to offer but war. Their prolongued existence depends on keeping the hate and fighting going. If tomorrow (1)
TheWombatStrikesAgain
all Israelis just packed up and left, the result would not be a free, prosperous, and democratic Palestine, but a shithole mafia state. (2)
darkstarmc
hard to do when Israel keeps bombing you and you're stuck in any open air prison
LaoBeifong
Maybe water, education, hospitals, etc
Ceistebi
Talk to Israel about that, they're the ones that pushed the Palestinians out of their land, while being backed by the U.S.
Winstitutionalized
Hard to build stable governance when Israel is blockading and land grabbing. The Palestinians are being pushed against the sea.
Teeface
Israel unilaterally withdrew from Gaza, giving it with no strings. All they got back was rockets and tunnels
Winstitutionalized
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_freedom_of_movement
Winstitutionalized
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip
TheGrayBox
Well I guess we know where you stand. Israel and its allies have objected to recognizing Palestine as a state for decades.
Teeface
Israel offered 90% of the pre 67 borders and were rejected. That was the most recent of 5 offers. Who doesn't want the state?
PavelNova
Not only has Israel kept stealing lands and building settlements on Palestinian land since the Oslo accords.The deal you cited never existed
TheGrayBox
Why the fuck would anyone enter into land agreements with a country that is already actively breaking OTHER precious land agreements?
TheGrayBox
*other previous land agreements
WinterOfMyDiscontent
Hamas can't be negotiated with, but the PA in the West Bank can. I'm really sad that Israel is building settlements instead of talking.
nopost
The PA can't be negotiated with. Abbas needs war to remain dictator. Israel offered the PA 95% of everything they wanted in 2000, and 1/
nopost
instead of replying with a counteroffer, Abbas spat in the faces of Clinton and Barak. They regularly fund a "pay-for-slay" program which 2/
nopost
incentivizes Palestinians to murder Israeli civilians. The PA is just as much a terror organization as Hamas, just better at hiding it. 3/3
WinterOfMyDiscontent
Yes, they've thrown away some decent deals, but they will talk. Either way, pushing farther and farther into EJ is counterproductive.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
They way things are going (US recognising capital, muslim nations starting formal diplomatic relations), future offers will likely be worse.
doodoobailey
you equate Hamas to all Palestinians? And Israel needs to stop settling/colonizing their land and then cry when Palestine retaliates
IKnowWhatImWorth
All them downvotes from the neolibs and Zionists. Lovely.
BlastingRopeToWaluigiHentai
The English literally said "we don't want Jews in Europe. We own Palestine. Fuck those guys living there, you Jews go there."
KleptoKea
He didn't. You're putting words in their mouth to suit your argument. Hamas leads the Palestinians and Hamas has genocide in its charter 1/
KleptoKea
and is aiming hundreds of missiles at innocent children. Both sides are assholes here. Don't give those genocidal terrorists a free pass.2/2
doodoobailey
lol kk. Enjoy supporting your genocide mouth breather
KleptoKea
I think there is never justification for genocide no matter who seeks it. That's the part that pisses people like you 1/
RyanAndTheQuestForWorldDomination
He didn’t say that, but nice of you to attribute it to his argument.
doodoobailey
fuck off mouth breather
nopost
Hamas controls Gaza and is so popular in the West Bank that the Palestinian dictator Abbas recently had to cancel the first elections in 1/
nopost
30 years because he realized even he couldn't rig them enough to keep Hamas from replacing them. Last week crowds on the Temple Mount 2/
nopost
were chanting "We are all Hamas." Don't pretend they don't have massive amounts of support. 3/3
mardukkur
Of course they have massive support, they're the one who fight back when the Israelis go on another one of their murder sprees.
ihatesociology
Having support is not the same as having a government.
doodoobailey
Your Zionist is glaring
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TheGriffin
And your point? The French Resistance was pretty popular against the Nazis. The Viet Kong had a lot of civilian support against the US
TheGrayBox
Yes, oppressed people generally support a force that fights for them and is seen as strong. Israel holds the cards here and the entire world
xyrax
You still haven't shown why its okay to equate all Palestinians to Hamas. Did you just, forget? Or was that explanation supposed to do it?
TheGriffin
I mean, might help if Israel stops evicting people and raiding Mosques for no reason. Israel is absolutely the aggressor here
JapAnus
It might help if Hamas stops trying to eradicate the Jews, as per their stated goal. Hamas is absolutely the aggressor here
Kaleopolitus
Why does there need to be ONE aggressor? Both are fucked up beyond belief and both need to be stopped.
TheGriffin
I mean, this started with the IDF raiding the AL Aqsa mosque for no reason. So it kind of isn't. And is it anti semitism or anti zionism?
kittybuttwiggle
It was business as usual until ~a week ago Israel went and did some shit, just when netenyahu was about to be in trouble and needed a crisis
rulek
Humans tend to get pushed to the extreme if you treat them badly.
Metalgearslade
Pretty ironic to accuse Hamas of Jewish eradication, in defense of Israeli eradication of Palestinians.
JapAnus
Not ironic. I'm simply right, and you are wrong
Metalgearslade
ihatesociology
Hamas is not Palestine either though. They’re not the government they’re an organisation.
TheGriffin
"Jews", "zionists" and "Israelis" are not all the same things. FYI.
JapAnus
They are to Hamas
Galdrack
Here's a video of Israelis being interviewed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFoxL3sOAio
MenloPart
That sounds problematic.
Galdrack
Most people when interviewed in West Jerusalem want to genocide Palestinians. Meanwhile in Palestine most people just don't want to die. >
Galdrack
BTW here's Israel committing war crimes right now: https://twitter.com/historyofarmani/status/1393205424095170562