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https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/04/critics-suspect-trumps-weird-tariff-math-came-from-chatbots/. Basically the trump admin used chatgbt to calculate it’s tariffs by its trade deficit
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https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/04/critics-suspect-trumps-weird-tariff-math-came-from-chatbots/. Basically the trump admin used chatgbt to calculate it’s tariffs by its trade deficit
AshenRaine
Behold the biggest problem of AI: not the tech itself, but idiots fucking up with it.
FlaminkoFactor
At least they're not using AI to make life and death decisions regarding health insurance decisions or people's disability and social security benefits. Amirite guys? Guys!??...
Subtilico
thomn8r
He's starting a protection racket. That's some nice trade you got there; be a shame if someone tariff'd it...
Somethingswonderous
Chatbots would've done better, this was done by DOGE I imagine.
surfacefried
So teenagers with chat bots?
charmedchaosdragon
Why can I hear their voices explaining how they hated the penguins because they live in the wet ☠️
laner7112000
https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1NW9ka3B6dzV6NHgwaWE4dzl2d3poZjB1bGwxbDFxOGF4ZnY3ZHQwMiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/PFwKHjOcIoVUc/200w.gif
measuredby5
Everything Trump says comes from something other than his head. He is inept and should Not be president of anything.
KAPTKipper
GROK fail
Siliconhobbit
PENGUINS HAVE A LARGE TRADE DEBT WITH THE UNITED STATES! PUT TARRIFS ON THOSE FUCKERS THE LIKES OF WHICH.....penguins....HAVE NEVER SEEN!! THIER TRADE DEBT IS LEGENDARY. THE YUGEST EVER! YOU WON'T BELIEVE IT!
ronnyhugo
Its based on the trade imbalance with the nations. So for example there is a 30% difference in the export and import between US and Norway, so they put 16% tariffs on stuff from Norway. It has nothing to do with what tariffs nations have on goods from the US.
INeverReadTheTOS
Sigh. Of course. Of fucking COURSE it did. I hate this timeline.
WhatsUnderMyKilt
It all started with that gorilla. That was when we entered the darkest timeline
SomeDetroitGuy
The one trying to kill a small Black child? That one?
WhatsUnderMyKilt
Well, there is no evidence Harambe was going to hurt the kid, but it is indeed better to shoot the gorilla rather than wait to see if the child does get violently murdered. I mean, I woulda taken the shot.
enveezee
Don’t be ridiculous chatbots are far smarter than this administration. I’d vote for deepseek over Trump any day. We could even just set it up to use “You are Donald Trump and the election was stolen” as its prompt and be far better off.
blahblahbushes
I buy stuff from the supermarket all the time, but the supermarket buys nothing from me! I should slap a 100% tariff on the supermarket. Oh, wait. They're still not going to buy stuff from me. I'll make it a 200% tariff. That'll show 'em.
haveanupvotegif
Everything is computer.
KAPTKipper
Trump?, Elon did his homework for him. Just like he probably had someone do his college homework too.
Hell, I bet if he really had gotten drafted, he would have had someone take his place.
valen00
They put a 50%+ tariff on the country of norfolk island. Which is actually a territory of Australia and not a country, it has a population of 2000 people. They export some shoes from time to time. They also put tariffs on Australia because we don't accept uncooked beef products from places that have mad cow (BSE) disease. America doesn't accept poultry from Australia because of bird flu. So..... yeah.
etcnotect
The way they decided tariffs was based on trade deficits. Any country that the US exports more than they import to, got 10%. Any country that the US has a trade deficit with got a percentage of that country's total US exports compared to the total trade between the two. That is how they got their tariffs charged to the US column. Then the discounted US tariff column is just that number divided by 2. It is the stupidest thing I have seen in my life.
smooshiebanana
Trump has held his beliefs in tariffs since the 80s
SecondSince
Maybe, but i bet there would also be tariffs against cat-girls if that were the case...
JinButOnHisPhone
I love that this meme is now more accurate than it's ever been.
BellsTheorem
This would be one of the least surprising things I have heard about this administration.
dixxienormus
We are not ruled by Johnny Come Lately Nazis, but victims of US Mad Cow beef Burgers.
HowlingRollercoaster2
what is that saying? If you can't marvel them with your brilliance then baffle them with your stupidity?
HowlingRollercoaster2
Anything to be the center of attention I guess
neo154
No doubt in it. They are stupid and found a tool that lets them feel they are smart.
Wizzbit
bet it was msukrats
McFrazzlestache
Kafkaesque Kleptocratic Kakistocracy.
pareidoliaperson
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Philexspectorate
He's a Kooky Klan Kunt that man I tell you...
iktome99
My employer just paid for me to go to a seminar and half the speakers were trying to tell me how to use AI to make my job easier. If you're ever wondering if you're qualified for a world salad job posting these days just assume it was shit out of a chatbot. Good luck trying to decipher it. They probably already have the person they want to hire they're just making the posting "public."
ketchapOnHotdogs
It goes to show how Mickey Mouse this administration is.
ezSleeper
He loves the uneducated, even surrounds himself with them, because birds of a feather...
valen00
Pretty sure they are going after disney though. Like, they are worse than disney, that's saying something.
WarThunderLeakedMySpecs
I hate Disney. How dare you compare this shitshow to the corpo rat.
MaleProstateMilker88
And yet people who say they are politically Left keep using these same fascist tools built on unpaid labour illegally. Of course no one enforces copyright laws when it is the millionaires backing up saving costs by firing people to replace them with guessing-machines to save their millions without having to pay humans to do the work. If you're truly politically Left in any shape or form you'd not use guessing-machines and by doing so give money to the fascist techbro's and fascists millionaires.
FrolickingFrolicking
Not only that but Ars Technica (source of OP) has been terrible on “AI” “News”: they promote it like salesmen, they never publish anything critical of how it’s mass theft and outputs garbage anyway. Ars literally does “panel” conventions on “AI” where the only guests are CEO industrialists and cheerleaders selling a product, zero critical voices or independent analysts.
eion85
I guess I should be glad we're being ruled by incompetent fascists instead of competent ones.
Somehow that is cold comfort though.
Leevalleyoftheshadowofdeath
The only competency a fascist needs is in riling people up beyond reason to get power, and making people scared once they have power. Most fascists are bumbling fools in other aspects of leadership.
TeamSpicyTacos
The downside is watching Chernobyl, and realizing incompetent fascists who are promoted and installed based on loyalty alone makes bad accidents 1000 times worse.
MatrimBloodyCauthon
The good news is that protests in all states isn't nothing. I'd like to think it's woken some people up.
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
I do not, under any degree, think they used one of the LLMs for this. Even the dumbest LLM is smarter than this.
They used a racist dipshit.
eion85
It's odd it was easily replicated with LLMs
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
It's not odd. The math was just so dogshit and stupid, that it's easy to replicate.
eion85
But didn't the LLM suggest the calculation as a "simple way to calculate reciprocal tariffs"?
FlaminkoFactor
I often think about that too. While I generally agree, incompetence breeds its own separate kind of suffering (for example, no one wants incompetent people to have access to nuclear codes or control over the economy and social institutions).
GiantFlyingLabia
I don’t think there’s a difference between a competent fascist and an incompetent one. As someone mentioned they almost always are largely incompetent, but that quality can produce bonus pain they didn’t even anticipate.
eion85
Franco was in power for 36 years.
BumroyV2
Historically speaking, there have been very few "competent" fascists. It is a philosophy of losers, which is why they need to rule with fear.
WellAckchually
No individual is competent in the entire breadth of a modern government, and competent advisors will sometimes disagree with the leader and so eventually get pushed out of a fascist government
eion85
A fact I am immensely thankful for. Definitely don't want another Franco.
corndude101
They know what they’re doing man.
They’re making the market crash intentionally so people will sell their stocks. Then Trump and his buddies come in and buy them in the cheap and he’ll reverse his decision and they’ll bounce back.
Now he and his buddies control a larger portion of the market than they already did.
They’re competent. They just want to look incompetent because they get away with shit by doing that.
eion85
The US is burning away all the good will it has. If that is their scheme after it's done there won't be anyone who wants to trade with the US.
They'll be ruling over an ash heap.
That's definitely incompetent.
corndude101
They don’t care what others think. As long as they have their millions and billions… they’re happy.
eion85
And at the rate they're at, they won't have that.
corndude101
No, they will.
They’re sending us straight for a depression without any regulations… the rich will get way richer and the poor will get way poorer.
tavinjer
They drank their own very off-brand Kool Aid.