Correct! See also: The best thing about Tiggers is there is only ONE, thank Christ. Woody Woodpecker is an asshole. I'd have drowned Dennis the Menace in a rain barrel and made it look like an accident.
Okay but on the flip side, as a kid who's strongly relates to the enthusiasm of SpongeBob, this outlook really poops on a positive attitude. They're both relatable, but SpongeBob is really living.. LLL even :)
Wayne is a terrible person. He's selfish. He's kind of a dick to Garth, as if he keeps him around to pump up his own low self esteem. And wow, talk about being a toxic boyfriend. He was terrible to Cassandra. Possessive and incredibly jealous. That scene where him and his buddies pull off an elaborate scheme to spy on her? That's some restraining order level shit.
Okay, if you treat Patrick like he's slow, everyone should give him a pass, but SpongeBob is just so pure and innocent and full of happiness! Leave SpongeBob alone!! I'm almost 40, btw.
Calling Mr Krabs a "shitty boss" is kinda underselling it. If we're actually going to view the show through a realistic lens here, he's a pure evil psychopath.
In addition to being an abusive boss in every way possible; he sold SpongeBob's soul for 62 cents. He tried to kill Squidward when an art expert said his paintings would be worth more after his death. He nearly managed to drive Plankton to suicide by torturing him by repeatedly triggering his past traumas.
I never allowed my kids to watch this show, basically for the reasons mentioned, above. The glorification of idiocy and anti-social behavior was not the model I wanted for them. Oddly, it was just this show. The Simpsons, Family Guy, Cat-Dog, Pinky & the Brain - those were ok.
There's some truth to this, but Squidward is also his own worst enemy: He does NOT ask for so little, instead (among other things) he demands praise and adoration for artistic talent (which he lacks), and recognition of his genius (which he also lacks.) He is pretentious and has delusions of grandeur, and SO MUCH of his misery comes from having to live with the fact that he is not what he wants so desperately to be, but he won't do anything to actually improve himself or his attitudes.
Squidward reminds me so much of the professor in Gilligan's Island. Or worse, the doctor in Lost in Space... pretentiousness without substance. Willing to sabotage his peers to preserve the status quo. I should like Squidward at my age, but I sympathize more with Sandy -- kind of kooky, kind of a free spirit, but a good grounding influence on The danger duo.
True, he does have some ability, but a bigger part is that his vision just isn't something that most people like, and he tries to convince himself that they're just a bunch of luddites and he's just too great for them to comprehend.
Watching Jim annoy Dwight once a week on TV was fine at the time, at least for me. It gets annoying real quick when marathoning dozens of 22 minutes episodes back to back.
Legit why i can't only watch an episode or two at most. But for me that's the same with the always sunny or the league. Lmao first episode I watch, but if i try three in a row I'm annoyed. I might also be a curmudgeon, so there is that to consider
I dunno, the monotony of office work next to an aggressive "Acktwually" like Dwight would do something to a person. The calming feeling as the stapler slowly submerges in the carefully prepared gelatin is a good alternative to the American Psycho scenarios that would probably play through Jim's head.
I can live with being an arsehole, if you're obnoxious and flout common courtesy while going out of your way to be a nuisance, it's not unreasonable to expect reprisal, and you don't get to choose how that comes to you.
Difference was that Daria was like 16, and Spongebob and Patrick are supposed to be adults (given that they live in their own homes, and not with parents). Most 16 year olds are in the wrong quite often. They learn more as they grow up.
I thought that was part of the show? She's supposed to reflect the nihilistic edge of the youth of that day, hells, she was right more often than she was wrong. From what I remember, she was usually only wrong whenever it came to her assumptions and/or interactions with people. But a lot of the commentary she had on society, bigotry, corporations, education, the music/art industries and even the expectations of "surviving" in America, have actually gotten worse, sadly.
I don't remember reading it as a kid, but I read it a few months ago and detested Holden, sure he is a kid and just went through a bunch, but that doesn't excuse a bunch of his behaviors that have nothing to do with his trauma.
Catcher in the Rye could have been an inspiring story about someone waking up from the toxic and entitled way their family raised them, to become more emotionally aware of themself and others. But instead it's mostly just Holden bumbling around and being an unsympathetic little turd for hundreds of pages, giving no indication that he has learned fuckall.
I feel bad for him that his family made him that way, sure. But he's right at the age where people start to have the agency to grow past...
...such things while they still have the plasticity of youth to change their direction in life. Catcher in the Rye doesn't paint an optimistic picture of the route he's on.
Music rights, the absolute bane of any fans of 90s tv, fucking Drew Carey Show got a DVD release of only S01 20 yeas ago and only came to streaming fucking LAST YEAR. People had been upscaling copies they recorded off SDTV before that...
Its not that they lost the music rights, but contracts from then only cleared music for broadcast/cable, dvds and streaming werent a thing so when that started the music owners were like, nope, that wasnt included! Been watching a lot of tv commentaries lately and music rights are some of the biggest expenses for a show sometimes, like theyll have to cut other stuff just to budget around getting a certain song. Still pissed Vinyl got canceled cuz of it, no way sales of those songs didnt go up.
Home video was absolutely a thing in the 90s that rights owners knew about. MTV shows were a special case when it came to the music rights. MTV had a blanket right to use the music they aired and this allowed them to use that music in their shows in a way other channels couldn't. They didn't have to bake the music into the show, allowing them to change what music was played to cater to whatever was hot for that airing of the show. So, shows like Daria never HAD the rights to the music.
joeyecho101
I know people with a "lifelong dedication to ignorance". Great insult.
Wapusk
Correct! See also:
The best thing about Tiggers is there is only ONE, thank Christ.
Woody Woodpecker is an asshole.
I'd have drowned Dennis the Menace in a rain barrel and made it look like an accident.
ChiefRunningFridge
I think that was part of the joke.
juliakitten112
Okay but on the flip side, as a kid who's strongly relates to the enthusiasm of SpongeBob, this outlook really poops on a positive attitude. They're both relatable, but SpongeBob is really living.. LLL even :)
discorage
Wayne is a terrible person. He's selfish. He's kind of a dick to Garth, as if he keeps him around to pump up his own low self esteem. And wow, talk about being a toxic boyfriend. He was terrible to Cassandra. Possessive and incredibly jealous. That scene where him and his buddies pull off an elaborate scheme to spy on her? That's some restraining order level shit.
smilenowgirl
Okay, if you treat Patrick like he's slow, everyone should give him a pass, but SpongeBob is just so pure and innocent and full of happiness! Leave SpongeBob alone!! I'm almost 40, btw.
GroteB
One day you'll find yourself agreeing with Bert as well.

DrSharkbite
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Keittermang
Preach it! been saying this for years!
DatDarthCaedus
Calling Mr Krabs a "shitty boss" is kinda underselling it. If we're actually going to view the show through a realistic lens here, he's a pure evil psychopath.
In addition to being an abusive boss in every way possible; he sold SpongeBob's soul for 62 cents. He tried to kill Squidward when an art expert said his paintings would be worth more after his death. He nearly managed to drive Plankton to suicide by torturing him by repeatedly triggering his past traumas.
DavidTemper44
Squidward found a villa of his peers, exactly equal neighbors who behave perfectly and run his same routine... he got bored
sfrinlan
I imagine there's a middle ground between ultra boring and the duo of an allegedly sentient rock and a chaos gremlin.
MidnaDS
Every person has a day in their life where they are now closer to Squidward than Spongebob.
spiderjohn36
Squidward, head of your local HOA. /S
ThisismyconfessionTherearemanylikeitButthisoneismine
I'm Squidward. I'm Squidward. I'm Squidward Squidward Squidward.
Crapmonster
You're Squidward! He's Squidward!!
OhIfIMust
EVERYONE'S SQUIDWARD!!!
SecurityBadger
I never allowed my kids to watch this show, basically for the reasons mentioned, above. The glorification of idiocy and anti-social behavior was not the model I wanted for them. Oddly, it was just this show. The Simpsons, Family Guy, Cat-Dog, Pinky & the Brain - those were ok.
IlluminaBlade
family guy went extraordinarily off the rails when it was resurrected.
idiotsonfire
Spongebob glorifies idiocy, but Family Guy doesn't?
trythebleucheese
Not me. I watch the show with my kids, and we discuss the idiocy and anti-social behavior and how it's wrong.
OhIfIMust
There's some truth to this, but Squidward is also his own worst enemy: He does NOT ask for so little, instead (among other things) he demands praise and adoration for artistic talent (which he lacks), and recognition of his genius (which he also lacks.) He is pretentious and has delusions of grandeur, and SO MUCH of his misery comes from having to live with the fact that he is not what he wants so desperately to be, but he won't do anything to actually improve himself or his attitudes.
randomwalrus
Oi, mate, I don't come to where you live, and shit on your whole personhood. How dare you attack in in this fashion, I deserve better.
OutOfTheHat
Squidward reminds me so much of the professor in Gilligan's Island. Or worse, the doctor in Lost in Space... pretentiousness without substance. Willing to sabotage his peers to preserve the status quo. I should like Squidward at my age, but I sympathize more with Sandy -- kind of kooky, kind of a free spirit, but a good grounding influence on The danger duo.
OhIfIMust
If Squidward would just embrace the suck and indulge in his art for the sake of enjoying it, he would be so much happier.
idiotsonfire
I'd say Squidward isn't talentless at art, just nowhere near as talented as he claims to be. He's passable at best.
OhIfIMust
True, he does have some ability, but a bigger part is that his vision just isn't something that most people like, and he tries to convince himself that they're just a bunch of luddites and he's just too great for them to comprehend.
KittenInside
Jim from The Office. Such "hilarious" pranks.
GiganticBaby
Watching Jim annoy Dwight once a week on TV was fine at the time, at least for me. It gets annoying real quick when marathoning dozens of 22 minutes episodes back to back.
arewenotkingsandqueenstogether
Dwight was irritating af and needed checks on his arrogrance
Furyustyles
And Jim was a narcissist who preyed upon an insecure codependent woman by love bombing her while she was in another relationship.
arewenotkingsandqueenstogether
That wasn't love bombing lol. He actually loved her. And Roy was a dick.
LookingLikeASnack
Everyone in The Office is kind of terrible for one reason or another.
howimetyourauntrobin2
Legit why i can't only watch an episode or two at most. But for me that's the same with the always sunny or the league. Lmao first episode I watch, but if i try three in a row I'm annoyed.
I might also be a curmudgeon, so there is that to consider
Keittermang
I dunno, the monotony of office work next to an aggressive "Acktwually" like Dwight would do something to a person. The calming feeling as the stapler slowly submerges in the carefully prepared gelatin is a good alternative to the American Psycho scenarios that would probably play through Jim's head.
KittenInside
Every arsehole has their excuses. You could go jogging.
Darkspire
I can live with being an arsehole, if you're obnoxious and flout common courtesy while going out of your way to be a nuisance, it's not unreasonable to expect reprisal, and you don't get to choose how that comes to you.
KittenInside
Sure. But in case of Jim specifically, he never seemed interested in talking things out with Dwight. Instead, he was awful to him, again and again.
Kalli
Congrats on turning 40, you should re-watch some Daria soon and realize how often she's in the wrong.
GasBandit
Woody Woodpecker was the bad guy, too. All the walrus guy wanted was to have a barbecue, but Woody kept fucking with him!
eronth
Yeah but I knew he was right even as a kid. It was lame he was so boring, but man the guy could just not get a fucking break.
VoidScreamer
Difference was that Daria was like 16, and Spongebob and Patrick are supposed to be adults (given that they live in their own homes, and not with parents). Most 16 year olds are in the wrong quite often. They learn more as they grow up.
grandestgrandeur
I thought that was part of the show? She's supposed to reflect the nihilistic edge of the youth of that day, hells, she was right more often than she was wrong. From what I remember, she was usually only wrong whenever it came to her assumptions and/or interactions with people. But a lot of the commentary she had on society, bigotry, corporations, education, the music/art industries and even the expectations of "surviving" in America, have actually gotten worse, sadly.
OhIfIMust
She needed a good mentor.
OhIfIMust
Haha, I love Daria. She's still a kid, trying to figure everything out.
JohnnyLawlessEsq
A teenager? **WRONG?** Whoever *heard* of such a thing! 🙄
AlmostClever
Jackospade
I always empathized with Jake's rage. "Rise, damn it!!"
WhyDontYouMakeMe
Being an adult is realizing that you're supposed to feel bad for Holden Caulfield
Furyustyles
The Good Girl with Jake Gyllenhaal and Jennifer Aniston shows just how screwed up he was.
ihugpeople
I don't remember reading it as a kid, but I read it a few months ago and detested Holden, sure he is a kid and just went through a bunch, but that doesn't excuse a bunch of his behaviors that have nothing to do with his trauma.
PumpkinDriver5
He should probably have been seeing a therapist.
Blud4BludGod
Catcher in the Rye could have been an inspiring story about someone waking up from the toxic and entitled way their family raised them, to become more emotionally aware of themself and others. But instead it's mostly just Holden bumbling around and being an unsympathetic little turd for hundreds of pages, giving no indication that he has learned fuckall.
I feel bad for him that his family made him that way, sure. But he's right at the age where people start to have the agency to grow past...
jinjaneko
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Blud4BludGod
...such things while they still have the plasticity of youth to change their direction in life. Catcher in the Rye doesn't paint an optimistic picture of the route he's on.
InfocalypseRising
at least she had a banging soundtrack
Kalli
Okay, don't rewatch it then, because I have very bad news about what's happened to that soundtrack.
cyno01
Music rights, the absolute bane of any fans of 90s tv, fucking Drew Carey Show got a DVD release of only S01 20 yeas ago and only came to streaming fucking LAST YEAR. People had been upscaling copies they recorded off SDTV before that...
DrRad
The State had massive issues.
TheJurc
Sail the seas with the Daria Restoration Project
Kalli
(it's still great, just all the available versions lost the music rights, so it's been replaced with garbage)
InfocalypseRising
yeah I remember hearing someplace they swapped out most of the music. Bummer.
sfrinlan
I like Garbage, what's so wrong with that?
randomwalrus
Its not currently raining, so no happiness to be had.
cyno01
Its not that they lost the music rights, but contracts from then only cleared music for broadcast/cable, dvds and streaming werent a thing so when that started the music owners were like, nope, that wasnt included! Been watching a lot of tv commentaries lately and music rights are some of the biggest expenses for a show sometimes, like theyll have to cut other stuff just to budget around getting a certain song. Still pissed Vinyl got canceled cuz of it, no way sales of those songs didnt go up.
justadudeemp
Home video was absolutely a thing in the 90s that rights owners knew about. MTV shows were a special case when it came to the music rights. MTV had a blanket right to use the music they aired and this allowed them to use that music in their shows in a way other channels couldn't. They didn't have to bake the music into the show, allowing them to change what music was played to cater to whatever was hot for that airing of the show. So, shows like Daria never HAD the rights to the music.