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Mar 8, 2022 10:32 AM
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UpvoteBuddyJesus
Not sure of source, but this is Moscow only, online only. Wonder if something there is a way to see something broader?
NirvanaNik
Asses? Oh assess.
Lightsmith
I'm glad the idiots are changing their minds but not fast enough.
Askepios42
Sauce?
stevensls35
what im seeing, is 30% are fucking morons.
AZRAELSBLADE
whyteboar7
I pray this is accurate. Truth is powerful and the Russian people need more truth in their lives.
dmarting
I can't imagine the cognitive dissonance required to believe your country is liberating another one but no refugees come over the border.
ReasonablySorryButNotTooMuch
In large parts of the country people dont even realize how major the event is, never mind what happens at the border. They think Russia /1
ReasonablySorryButNotTooMuch
is liberating two relatively small provinces from some small militias, with limited civilian disruption whatsoever. /2
ILuvMyUserName
..and surprise, surprise, Ukraine's newly discovered oil/gas reserves begging for freedom
ILuvMyUserName
After years of his cronies bleeding Russis dry, these resources cud prop up putins regime for longer.
penzick
@OP I've found a source for your post. Please link it: https://navalny-com.translate.goog/?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc
catrov
How do they still have independent polls in Russia? I would think Putin would have shut them down along with the free press.
ClusterConsultant
https://www.thisamericanlife.org/763/the-other-mr-president/act-two-10
ElizaMDancer
Thank you! That was very interesting. And this American Life is a treasure
ClusterConsultant
The whole episode is great, but this act is the one that's relevant to your question. it's complicated
FukTedCruz
Reminds of the Fox news polls when it repeatedly shows the majority of people disagree w/ Foxs point of view on the subject being discussed.
canisfenri
That's also from almost 2 weeks ago now and posted a ton.
putcleverusernamehere
JohnSmithterms
This tracks . 15% of the population has an iq below 80.
ahleron
What population was surveyed? What is the sample?
IHopeMyKidsDontSeeThis
Online survey? Where exactly online, because that seems like potential for a huge sample bias.
HumanCats
Let's hope the battle against disinformation continues to break down the firewall of propaganda.
Dragondraikk
Go figure, attacking fleeing non-combatants is not a very peace-maker thing to do
jesasterous
I’m surprised at the low percentage of people who think its aggression. %53 seems really low
Fedotia
You wish, roughly 40% of Russians are staunch putinists who wont change their opinion if he was seen eating live babies.
Imalwaysready
INSIDE Russia, though? They're being fed a constant stream of misinformation and propaganda. I was surprised it was that high.
engineeringwombocombo
As nice as this data is, remember statistical bias is a thing. Particularly: this only includes people who answer surveys, >
engineeringwombocombo
And specifically people who care enough to make their opinions known. I'd expect reality to weigh mich more in favor of russia as aggressor.
Mr21782Man
This is why people need to learn how to make graphs. Unsure and peacemaker dropped by half. Liberator hasn't changed, swap with aggressor
WehWehWeh
Now poll Americans, I'm actually curious
CrimsonDubu
Nothing says "Liberator" like attempting to kill a Jewish president to liberate the people from Nazis.
SonderingStrike
Every dead soldier is a political murder. Always oppose wars, as there is little to justify such loss of life
Fortherea
If it’s an online survey, I’m afraid it’s not representative of the average population.
schlummi
It also says "moscow citizens". Urban areas are usually more left and liberal. Rural areas tend to be more conservative and authorian.
penzick
Quite true. But at least it's real. https://navalny-com.translate.goog/?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc
Sydonis12
It took place in Moscow, most progressive part of Russia. So it's going to be lot worse in small towns with less educated population.
ZeroHonour
Especially if the survey is in English.
penzick
Doesn't seem that it was: https://navalny-com.translate.goog/?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc
Aksuuuh
Or perhaps the data was just translated to English.
ZeroHonour
Which is why a source is helpful, so you know stuff like that.
availlableusername
@OP Could you provide the source of this survey?
s4ndwich3s
i think navalny's group tweeted it
andreyhimself
So, do you believe it's doubt in the numbers or fault in the truth they spell? Ukraine is under attack. Is there any doubt from there?
s4ndwich3s
no, i just answered a question. i believe the charts are more or less accurate. they give some hope.
putcleverusernamehere
Exactly
penzick
Unscientific but does appear to be real: https://navalny-com.translate.goog/?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc
drmuelr
As the source says: "To analyze these data, it is necessary to make a serious methodological explanation." Getting good data rn is hard.
penzick
Absolutely. And it's important that people take that into consideration when deciding how much weight to give this. Should be included in OP
LiterallyThatGuyInThePic
Nothing screams peace-keeping like invading and bombing the shit out of people.
Hogeron
"sending armed peacekeepers on humanitarian mission" Fuck Putin! War always means death and suffering to the people. Only idiots dont see it
ipointoutrepeats
Russian media is telling their citizens that Ukraine invaded and also that NATO and Ukraine have been infiltrated by Nazis. I’m surprised 1
ipointoutrepeats
there are so many people who say Russia is the aggressor. 2
GrandPubabofMoldistan
We must show the world of our peaceful ways... by force
DevonGronka
Including hospitals, schools, and historic town squares. At this point I really think Putin is testing to see how far he can go. Its scary.
Perkunas687
"We had to start the war to prevent the war." - Sergei Lavrov, paraphrased
DevonGronka
Dude Lavrov is such a creepy guy, and it's so great seeing him stumble over himself when BBC reporters call him on his bullshit. He seems 1/
DevonGronka
Like the kind of guy who isn't used to having his authority questioned, and when it is he doesnt know how to respond.
OhIfIMust
"Napalm sticks to kids!"
Amizcuz
Hey! I (my country) resemble that remark!
darthnerdus6236
If you yell 'Freedom' first, it passes as American liberation though.
FourScoreAndSevenBeersAgo
And absolutely no one believes us when we say it either. For all the "he's ex KGB, so smart", Putin really is a dumb fuck lately.
mrsdowneyjr
America does it all the time
ASongOfPissAndFarts
Lampmonster
Do you really wanna do you really wanna taste it?
ASongOfPissAndFarts