Our builder got so annoyed when I told them I had my own inspector. Between that and my being on the site randomly multiple days a week, we wound up with one of the best quality houses in the neighborhood (and we definitely did not buy a multi ((or single, or half)) million dollar house).
That's a great reminder that having an independent inspector is never a bad idea. Even well-built homes can benefit from a second set of experienced eyes before you move in.
so let me get this straight. you get to walk into a place, criticize the hell out of it, even break parts of it, and they pay you money to do this? do you need a degree or can you just walk off the street and be like "I'm a great complainer"?
Thanks, but I'll keep my parents house that I just bought that was built in 1890. I'm the one that should have things to fix (and I do actually...), but it's ridiculous that a new construction is that shitty. When there's multiple issues like that, I wouldn't even trust the structure itself. Imagine the things that you can't actually see.
good point...if they care so little about the parts you can see or easily touch and inspect, how little do they care about the parts you cannot reach because they are inside the walls or floors...
This is most new builds these days. Cheapest contractor wins the day the majority of the time. Cheapest means this kind of work. I used to be a home inspector, and I get a few home inspector youtubers still on my feed. Every new build seems to be this way.
Yeah the "truing up" team is different than the build team. It took 3 months to make our last new build condo livable after they handed it over. 3 of the cabinets were hanging sideways, the kitchen island was missing, the shower had no running water, etc.
For what its worth the people doing the finish work and the structural work are almost guaranteed to not be the same people; One crew might be good while the other one does whatever this is.
As much as this is true these actually all come from different videos. I follow this guy on YouTube. Inspector Randle. Actually some of these might not even be from him. So this video is rather deceptive by implying it all came from the same build
If you buy a new construction home from a builder who does not offer a *full warranty* for at least 5 years - you are being taken. The warranty is what ensures they don't cut corners, and saves you if a sub-contractor did. You should have a warranty, a pre-move-in inspection, and the opportunity to have an independent inspector give it a look.
Agreed that an independent inspection before closing can be incredibly valuable. It's much easier to document concerns and have them addressed before move-in than after.
AKA - don't buy a house that's less than 20 years old, because fuck, America's standards have slipped... Just kidding, none of us can afford a house! ...hah...
Bought a house in 2022 and I was telling the SO the year range we really wanted to hit. Found an ugly house but it was spacious and built in 1978. Perfect, I did a major remodel before moving in to fix the ugly.
To be fair, going old enough can risk looping back around into having weird, expensive issues crop up. My house was also built in 1978 and had I known I'd be spending a dickload to repair the foundation, roof, and numerous other things in-between I wouldn't have bought it.
Already have a house that's good enough for me. Been uncovering all the DIY things the previous owner(s) did and am re-doing them to my standards, or at least to resemble current code.
Every generation seems to have its nickname for poor workmanship. The good news is that quality can still vary a lot from one builder, crew, and project to the next—which is why independent inspections are so valuable.😅
When I was a kid I was told by the men in my family we all have guns so if the government steps out of line it could be put straight. Fast forward 40 years and those same men are now Trump voters screaming about gays on facebook and how Biden was still 'much much worse' than Trump has ever been and Mamdani is a muslim terrorist. I have lost all faith for the future of my country.
DukePhelan
If I was spending millions on a house I think I would spring for an on-site inspector to over see the entire operation as well.
PunnyTiger
a brand new handrail shouldn't move at all. it's supposed to be able to catch the full weight of a falling human multiple times without moving.
Sixsystems
On the bright side, the crappy building materials means less DB loss for WiFi.
lightfoot2
Private equity owned construction companies
DocFunkenstein
But you went with the cheapest bidders. How is this possible?
Gatorjon
Or your inspections are passed with greased palms
MapleSyrupMafia
The inspector looked at everything carefully, kinda hard to see much with a $100 bill behind his glasses tho.
kungfoolou
Were those European outlets on the marble looking wall, but US outlets in the floor? Probably not all shots were from the same building.
Dakemesh
Our builder got so annoyed when I told them I had my own inspector. Between that and my being on the site randomly multiple days a week, we wound up with one of the best quality houses in the neighborhood (and we definitely did not buy a multi ((or single, or half)) million dollar house).
AlphaStructural
That's a great reminder that having an independent inspector is never a bad idea. Even well-built homes can benefit from a second set of experienced eyes before you move in.
billiebitkiller
so let me get this straight. you get to walk into a place, criticize the hell out of it, even break parts of it, and they pay you money to do this? do you need a degree or can you just walk off the street and be like "I'm a great complainer"?
MapleSyrupMafia
Thanks, but I'll keep my parents house that I just bought that was built in 1890. I'm the one that should have things to fix (and I do actually...), but it's ridiculous that a new construction is that shitty. When there's multiple issues like that, I wouldn't even trust the structure itself. Imagine the things that you can't actually see.
alcamar
It doesn't need to be fixed, it needs to be scrapped. I wouldn't trust living in that thing if the "finishing" is that terrible
RevTang
Well hopefully they had esa do the electrical inspection and others for machinal and structural. If not. Yep that 3m for a shithole
RecurringNightmare
good point...if they care so little about the parts you can see or easily touch and inspect, how little do they care about the parts you cannot reach because they are inside the walls or floors...
UneventfulLover
In many ways, you could say that the misaligned electrical outlet is the equivalent of the brown M&Ms.
azgrak
All this doesn't bode well for the things that really matter. Electrical, plumbing, gas, roof trusses and a roof inspection.
CALAMOSCOPYJANE
Me neither. I’d never buy a new construction these days. I’d only live in something I built myself.
Oban
This is most new builds these days. Cheapest contractor wins the day the majority of the time. Cheapest means this kind of work. I used to be a home inspector, and I get a few home inspector youtubers still on my feed. Every new build seems to be this way.
BananaForScaIe
Yeah the "truing up" team is different than the build team. It took 3 months to make our last new build condo livable after they handed it over. 3 of the cabinets were hanging sideways, the kitchen island was missing, the shower had no running water, etc.
InnerBushman
Bad news for you then. They all do this shitty of a job these days.
Dilatory
For what its worth the people doing the finish work and the structural work are almost guaranteed to not be the same people; One crew might be good while the other one does whatever this is.
1975shovel
my 100 year old house is bullet proof. I just wish there was more than one electrical outlet in every room. Thank God for power strips
rossimus
If anyone needs to see why regulations matter, even fucking brain dead Joe Rogan will back criticizing this.
narcoleptiKnickers
Some sub contractor manager was like - I don't fucking care if Jose didn't show up this morning. Get 'er done Manuel.
lazybuthappy
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
Oatmealman1
so many characters abandoned
KellionBane
Don't buy the last house in a sub division, or on a, corner. They usually use all the left over material from the other houses to finish it.
TsubakiTragic
USA?
SigynRose
As much as this is true these actually all come from different videos. I follow this guy on YouTube. Inspector Randle. Actually some of these might not even be from him. So this video is rather deceptive by implying it all came from the same build
chris16447
Despite the lack of insulation, no central heating or cooling, and floors that could foil a ninja - I'm actually glad I live in a century old house.
Cactus21
Don’t tell @AlphaStructural, he’ll have a stroke!
AlphaStructural
We definitely notice things like this. An independent inspection can provide valuable peace of mind, whether it's a new build or an older home. 😅
evilspock
If you buy a new construction home from a builder who does not offer a *full warranty* for at least 5 years - you are being taken. The warranty is what ensures they don't cut corners, and saves you if a sub-contractor did. You should have a warranty, a pre-move-in inspection, and the opportunity to have an independent inspector give it a look.
If they balk at any of that - walk away.
AlphaStructural
Agreed that an independent inspection before closing can be incredibly valuable. It's much easier to document concerns and have them addressed before move-in than after.
Zapathasura
Ah, I see the cutting didn't end with just the corners.
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
Cutting one corner creates too more. So they cut those corners, too. That made 4 corners, which were again cut.
Long story short, all those squares made a circle.
DangerBaer
https://youtube.com/shorts/hH1aTfGnLXA
Don't let your contractor do LSD by the gallon, folks.
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
BITCH, DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!
DangerBaer
https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1MXAyYndoYTBmNXVuYzVqeHIzNHh2bmU1aGdjaHlhdWdmMTg1MnVjNyZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/fS1evNdEBJVwbvVTnf/200w.webp
Navrodel
AKA - don't buy a house that's less than 20 years old, because fuck, America's standards have slipped...
Just kidding, none of us can afford a house! ...hah...
AlphaStructural
If only it were that simple. We've seen great old homes, rough old homes, great new homes, and rough new homes. 😂
Fanner50
All the carpenters became contractors, all the contractors became builders.
All the carpenters are day laborers, picked up at Home Depot.
yosoysoyboy
Picked up at Home Depot by ICE, leaving only lazy-asses who don't know what they're doing.
OldnSpicey
Bought a house in 2022 and I was telling the SO the year range we really wanted to hit. Found an ugly house but it was spacious and built in 1978. Perfect, I did a major remodel before moving in to fix the ugly.
TheBigBadBonerBiter
To be fair, going old enough can risk looping back around into having weird, expensive issues crop up. My house was also built in 1978 and had I known I'd be spending a dickload to repair the foundation, roof, and numerous other things in-between I wouldn't have bought it.
OdinYggd
Already have a house that's good enough for me. Been uncovering all the DIY things the previous owner(s) did and am re-doing them to my standards, or at least to resemble current code.
GhostoftheNorth
Is this that cheap,unskilled labor we always hear about?
CitizenK9
both
lightfoot2
No it is private equity owned construction companies
meme2zombie
These aren't the same building but claiming they are makes me think the whole thing is made up.
Blimymyhat
Yeah the post or spindle isn't now construction.
Dakemesh
And the one set of outlets are not even US standard.
SOLARvsFACISM
I assume you're talking about the clip with the coat hook that shot across the room. I noticed the same thing. I think those are European outlets.
funkystay
I agree. That first clip with the crumbling picket was rotten wood. Even a crappy new house wouldn't have this.
meme2zombie
And outlets from two different continents.
deathmagiks
or termites, which can definitely affect new builds.
cgt9803
Lennar?
Pokegeologist
I can't say who the builder is as I walk by their project billboard...
jbrightmans
KB Homes
Pokegeologist
Remember to leave a bottle of water and spool of blue painters tape on the porch for the inspector.
BlindGardener
I remember when people talked about chinese ‘tofu construction’ and I said ‘you should see american Velveeta Construction’
AlphaStructural
Every generation seems to have its nickname for poor workmanship. The good news is that quality can still vary a lot from one builder, crew, and project to the next—which is why independent inspections are so valuable.😅
ElbowDeepInUserSub
Is that when you melt down a perfectly good house and blend it with spackle to make a smooth, meltable house?
cyno01
You can use better houses and just add sodium citrate tho.
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
Tofy is versatile and nutritious. Velveeta just looks gross.
datphone777365
Not if the tofu has enough non food safe pesticides... way to woosh, not sexy.
Seethreepeeoh
Don’t touch the pool paint. You’ll go to jail.
apollo1983
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1bjc2dWZ6N3FxanRmejllZTZ2djcxM3c3NWZhOHp1N2JyOXlvc3lqeCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/wjuXuDSQU0sOfJIHS1/200w.webp
TheMindEntropic
and *still* no nationwide revolt
ChocolatePoopy
When I was a kid I was told by the men in my family we all have guns so if the government steps out of line it could be put straight. Fast forward 40 years and those same men are now Trump voters screaming about gays on facebook and how Biden was still 'much much worse' than Trump has ever been and Mamdani is a muslim terrorist. I have lost all faith for the future of my country.
eromitlab
Welcome to American new construction, where the prices are made up and the quality doesn't matter
Sixsystems
Not just America, I've seen some real sketchy shit up here in Canada, lots of igloos not up to code.
chrispisme
Mine is melting, but at least I’ve got a pool now
algoritham
Well, your government rounded up half the skilled labour, so you reap what you sow I suppose.
Aranon1183
What does a female Bear have to do with construction?
chansuke
This problem precedes that by at least a decade but really kicked into gear when housing prices spiked during the pandemic.
epithymetic
Those are not American plugs so it’s not limited to American construction
FortifiedWhine
No, crappy Chinese builders sourcing really shitty materials from home is becoming a problem in Australia as well
Mozyzgiraffe
Couldn’t even put in the correct plugs!
JaimeLannistersRightHand
Because of global warming