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ThatGuyFromJustSouthOfTheMiddleOfNowhere
Looks like Uncle Flo is gonna be visiting for thanksgiving
WillLickNudibranchsForBUzz
The whole "share your data" deal is creepy af. But because the app automatically translates to local language (and let me tell you, it does so poorly) it'a good laugh to interact with. 2 of 5 stars, would not recommend.
Lugh314159
what you really need to do as a single man, is register as a user in Texas (or another anti-woman state), and track not a random number, but a realistic cycle. Then stop one day, for no reason. They restart three months later. When they track you down, fucking laugh in their face.
jtalbain333
Don't just laugh in their face, document that shit and send it to the press. The only reason why this has managed to progress to the point it has is because so many centrists and marginal conservatives are convinced the worst case scenarios aren't really happening.
noneedtodoxme
I'm having daily periods. And an occasional miscarriage when I ride the rollercoaster. My data is impeccable
Sinasohn
Use it to track how often you replace the bar of soap in the shower or the toilet paper roll so you can plan purchases. Track how often you change the filter in your water pitcher or how often you get gas. How long does your electric toothbrush last between chargings?
dreammer243
Unfortunately this doesn't actually help. They (those who intend to abuse this data) don't need or care about this information in the aggregate. They're only going to care what a specific woman's data is. If you want to help, recommend or create a tracker app that doesn't sync to the cloud and which is encrypted locally.
beaglefeatures
Paper. You are talking about a paper diary.
Cebrail
Would using this outside the US help at all ?
EroticZombiePants
This would be a great way to track hemorrhoids.
DreadZeppelin
I wanted to install it for my light manstrual flow I've been having but apparently my app store is acting weird (reset didn't help)
Greymalum
Highly recommend clearing app caches and unused data. It often fixes small errors like that. Android by chance? Under settings, apps, storage/memory. The data settings may have software to clear cache and old background apps.
DreadZeppelin
Thanks for the tip =]
Roaddog184
I’m in, it will be money well spent I believe. Say hello to my alternative personality. Jodema. A half my actual age female with very erratic manstrual, at the time of creation I have a history of the last 6 months having 12 cycles lasting anywhere from 3-10 days each sometimes as little as 6 days in between. Fuck the GOP and all of their hateful BS.
jarnold3682000
Costs money so if you do a free subject set a reminder to cancel
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
Would it not be reasonably straightforwards to filter out the noise? Even if LEO's are *only* using data from the period tracker (which they almost certainly won't), it should be enough to be able to categorize users as genuine users who use the program routinely, fenuine users who use it intermittently, and 'sabotage'.
WinstonSmith101
Aging Brit Male here.
Happy to help.
BarderBetterFasterStronger
Dear women, don't use these predatory apps???
LutraLazuli
You know what, this is starting to sound like a grand idea. I do hope this ticks off incels and republicans when they try figuring out what's fake and what's real.
BenArowndaBlok
Uhm, it's a subscription. $15/month can be better spent.
Is there a free way to fuck up some data?
Elvirana
$15/month? WTF. Why would I pay that? What else does it do?
pimt665
It can also be used for free, you gotta get rid of the subscription pop up, just press randomly on the screen i think
BenArowndaBlok
Awesome! I'll give it another shot!
zushiba
tgeliot
JFC it asks a lot of questions before revealing that you can have it for free for only 14 days.
powwerbottom
"Day 42 of my peniod: Removed tampon so I could go pee"
WigglyBlondeNoodle
Then you rinse out the tampon and reinsert it right?! (Please don't actually do that lol)
powwerbottom
No....no this was my 37th tampon today
MrRandom314159
Want to point out that the best way to fuck with the data is to start with a general 28 day cycle off and 4 days on, then increase each by 1
MrRandom314159
The general purpose is to make it so that the system has a harder time flagging pregnancy due to other users increasing "off cycle" length.
ConstantBitRate
*politely raises hand with a question*
ConstantBitRate
Should we maybe download and (mis)use like the top 5 most used apps? or is Flo "The One" ?
Gryphonosiris
Spread it out, I think. Make the data well rancid.
ConstantBitRate
xXCutieMomokoXx
Flo is the main one, but most fitness apps like fitbit have the tracking option as well, you might have to change your settings to find it but why not?
DeadeicPrints
On it!
Onlyhereforthelaughs
Checked all the boxes. Am also 2' tall and 200lbs.
studog2010
That's... a lotta girth
rightwoof
Apologies for slowing the conversation but what does manipulation of data accomplish? Did they do something wrong?
BenArowndaBlok
It's to provide cover for vulnerable people in states where religious terrorists might use this data to prosecute women seeking healthcare.
That's my understanding.
Gryphonosiris
Places like Texas and Florida said that they plan on using said data to be able to track down women who are pregnant and want to get or had an abortion.
Corrodias
Random noise data won't accomplish that; you need it to look realistic.
nothinbutthebest
I get that it’s bad for them to have your data, but I’ve thinking about the consequences of this and I’m struggling with how it’s specifically harmful, please let me know.
dreammer243
For persecuting abortions, it can be "evidence" of certain reproductive indicators when investigating a particular woman. However, this information isn't useful in the aggregate at all, so the OP is misled.
P.s. or other person with uterus.
wobblecopterrrr
myanusisbleeding.gif
GravyEducation
CompressedInfo
Get ready for 220 more
monkeyfly
Is this a normal amount of anal bleeding?
GiantFlyingLabia
Google AI: It is normal to bleed from the anus about 2 ounces of blood per day.
wobblecopterrrr
@BotDrawA a normal amount of anal bleeding
monkeyfly
It's within tolerance.
WoodyGoodman
wobblecopterrrr
there it is! lol, sure I have it, somewhere.. but what folder does that even go in?...
WoodyGoodman
shastaRed
wobblecopterrrr
guess I might need a "womens rights" folder now
WoodyGoodman
I suspect over the next four years our "memes" subfolders are going to grow exponentially.
wobblecopterrrr
yeah, I just have a a couple general political folders rn, they are ggoing to get specific, and expansive,
C141Clay
Here ya go, you might want this too:
wobblecopterrrr
ugh... thx...
Emanresu18
Would it be a bad idea for an infertile woman to join in on this? Because I love to skew data.
Gryphonosiris
Welcome to the Resistance.
KingOfTheImgurians
Hmmm.....so I write software automation, I wonder what I might be able to do to join in the fun. I mean, for science, of course.....
moustacheKin
Comment to come back to later; for science of course
WhichEndDoITypeIntoAgain
perlninja
I'm feeling the urge to deploy a small yet funny perl script to support this... science!
KingOfTheImgurians
As a fellow old-school Perl programmer (I still miss ~= in my if statements), I fully approve.
perlninja
I still write Perl, copious amounts of it even, it still is the best glue language :D
KingOfTheImgurians
Me, a terminal with Vi, perl, awk, sed, and grep (maybe a bit of tcl/tk for some added flair). A recipe for chaos.
perlninja
Sounds like a normal day at work for me :D
AstralInfinity
Please, Please do...I mean this sincerely!!
KingOfTheImgurians
Hmmm, I do have some AWS Device Farm credits..... I'm going to go look into a few things. This could be a fun challenge.
AstralInfinity
I love it! Please do! :)
kirby422
Grab mitmproxy, possibly the DNS plugin and pihole (given phone), skim the data a bit and publish scripts to mimic it with random garbage
ScottyDoesDev
I mean if there’s a website component, it would be easy as pie, yeah? Just make a burner gmail account and use the + notation to generate a bunch of users and then use playwright or selenium to just dump a bunch of data. Just remember to change the user agent from whatever the default is and we’d be golden.
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KingOfTheImgurians
Don't you dare diminish what a motivated coder with Python and some APIs can do. I use that stuff all day long. I love me some Python and APIs.
KingOfTheImgurians
Exactly. Like, if it has a public-facing API it's even easier.
dyac
Even if there's not a public API, there likely is some kind of API that it's probably possible to reverse-engineer.
https://jero.zone/posts/reverse-engineering-apis
KingOfTheImgurians
Oh, yeah, tearing apart APIs and doing bad/good (depending on perspective) things to and with them is my bread and butter.
f00ker
A bit of burp suite, a bit of python, a bit of /udev/random... have fun my friend. (you can use burp on a PC to proxy stuff from a phone and get the connection from an app if needed)
KingOfTheImgurians
I recently found yaak and have enjoyed it quite a bit. But, remember that you can also use google translate as a bit of a scriptable light-weight proxy.... https://www.thetechedvocate.org/how-to-use-google-as-a-proxy-8-steps/
f00ker
Never tried yaak, I'll look into it. Burp has the advantage of catching the requests from the phone app so you just copy/change a bit/paste, export as something and spam. or change rrequests on the fly
KingOfTheImgurians
I wonder what we might be able to accomplish leveraging some automation from docker/virtualbox. Hmmm....interesting idea. You could easily have lots of light weight machines each setup to pipe through an outbound proxy in a different location, and then using some pretty simple logic (similar to Locust) you could coordinate a swarm. I think.
f00ker
If you have have ssh available endpoints a simple curl loop or python scrippt piped though proxychains would work, but you need the public IPs, and then we get into botnet teritory. The best bet (and least illegal) is a few friends that send the script to a few friends. Pretty sure that would be against the TOS so I don't endorse it for legal reasons =)
TheJomsborgViking
I remember when this was a thing guys did to help because Roe V. Wade
Sign in, mark start of a cycle, make it last 9 days. End cycle, start again 3 days later.
Wait 6 days then stop cycle for 3 months, then start cycle again. Really fuck with that data
IndigoThursday
You have just accurately described what my cycle was like when I wasn't on birth control. Until I had my son then it changed to 11 days on 11 days off. Hormonal birth control is fucking magical
BloodLoveRhetoric
Program an infinitely non-repeating sequence. Use a growing army of bots to submit the sequence, each with a randomized starting point.
Corrodias
What is the goal? Are you trying to make it hard for them to figure out how menstrual cycles work?
TheJomsborgViking
Its about Roe V. Wade. States that banned abortion can sign a warrant demanding information regarding women in their states. It's a way to track potential "illegal" abortions or miscarriages and to prosecute the women that this happens to
Corrodias
Alright... but what's the goal? What specifically are we trying to achieve by submitting such data? If it's "hide women who have abortions", note that random data would just be discarded as noise and would not achieve that goal; it would need to be realistic.
MeshHatMafia
I’d imagine the reason they look at tracking apps is to see when a woman stops having her period. When they see a stop, and you regularly use the app, you’re ‘probably pregnant’ and whatever agency will flag your profile. Now that you’re ’likely’ pregnant they can probably track your healthcare to see all the info they need etc. Or, if all of a sudden you have your period again, and it wasn’t allotted with the due date, it’ll get flagged again for a possible *illegal* abortion. That’s just my
MeshHatMafia
Guess and if you asked me, it’s fucked up beyond comprehension. Messing with the data can clog the whole system and algorithms, rendering it useless or at least flawed analytics for whatever ‘official business’ it’s used for. But circumventing whatever laws there may be is republicans bread and butter
LuIu
If the data is anonymous, how does it lead to prosecution? If it is not anonymous, how does adding useless data to it change anything?
oldscrotumthewrinkledretainer
Wouldn't it be spooky if they all synchronised
SheepySleepySmuggler
If I forget to mark the start of a cycle, might I be pregnant? Just for when Imgur sells my data.
HandoB4Javert
yes
Kemi337
You just might be pregante
whyforetho
I feel like obviously junk data like that would be trivial to remove or ignore.
WeTheI
or it's PCOS or a dozen other disorders
forelle
If your junk data somewhat resembles your real data good luck. If you try finding terrorists by looking at people who wear a certain kind of hat and suddenly all people run around with hats, good luck
RadonGaming
Correct. It is.
manhawk
Have you ever tried to remove junk data from a large dataset? It takes a lot more effort than you would think.
RadonGaming
Yes, and ones like that which clearly sit outside the distribution will be trivial to remove. So long as there's still a group in there which is genuine there's ways to handle this.
imnotinthewitnessprotectionprogram
Everything suddenly becomes an outlier!
TheJomsborgViking
I think the whole point is to fill it with junk data.
It's most likely an algorithm that is learning as it goes.
potshot
Yeah but these kinds of algorithms aren't typically unsupervised. It's usually pretty trivial to rerun training with junk data removed. Junk data is good, spoofed realistic data is better, not using data sharing apps is best.
thetinymonarch
Google trained it's AI on raw data. If Google ain't monitoring I doubt many companies are
potshot
Google has so much generic data it needs to use, it's a lot easier to monitor scoped, very simple data. And Google definitely does sanitize its data.