Did they ever actually say he owned that house? Most of my lower middle class friend's parents and my parents were all Renters in the 80's and most of the 90's.
Yes he was TV fat and TV poor look at all the poor people you ever see in TV and look at the clothes they wear the food they eat where they're hanging out and other people appeared before
TV shows always exaggerated the income of the main characters. A bigger house/apartment makes it easier to shoot a scene. You never want to through out an episode idea simply because "But they can't afford that!"
my grandparents. they had 8 girls. they was considered poor in their older years. but not poor like people living in a apartment complex at that exact timeframe. that would be her daughters except 3.we all lived in apartments or trailers.
My grandparents had 12. They lived in a house in downtown St. Louis, with two cars. Every kid that wanted to went to college. They were considered very poor. By the time I was born, they were living in a trailer, even though kids moved out and available funds went up.
Don’t forget, the first episode of The Simpsons was about the utter shame of Marge having to get a job to help support the family because Homer wasn’t making enough.
he was never considered fat, but he was considered poor. People on TV always had improbably large places to allow shooting from a variety of angles and movement of characters.
What's really telling is that the writers meant to have him appear to the viewers as a "relatable loser". The viewers should be able to laugh at him for being a loser, but still at times relate to him because he was still "one of them". Working in a shoe store, with a stay at home wife, two kids, a car, a two story house with a basement and a garage, he somehow still fit that narrative *at the time*.
IIRC they only had that old Dodge. There were some episodes were a new or different car was introduced, but I think the plot of that season than always circled around how they then lost it again.
There's something called house rich, cash poor. My parents were like this, they were broke because everything went into getting and keeping a house. What was left was sunk on groceries and repairing their crappy old car.
Now on the other hand the characters rarely ever talked about costs for things like mortgage or upkeep of the house but they did often joke about car payments.
About 10 years ago my wife & I took a cruise which stopped in Puerto Rico. We took a tour to the aquarium, which was on the other side of the island. The homes we passed were either McMansions with a shitbox car out front, or tarpaper shacks with a pimped out ride parked in front. It all depends on what is important to you.
nah it's like that everywhere in the Caribbean. Just got back from St Maarten and it was like ... million dollar house, million dollar condo complex, shack with a bunch of chickens and goats, abandoned burned down shack, million dollar house, etc etc. I have pics of the goats and chickens from across the street where we stayed to prove it
Al was broke all his money went to bills and Peg spend the rest. They never called him fat, but bald was a continuing joke and he was sort of a goon when it came to fighting.
I gotta say. I know working retail is a pain in the dick, but I think I'd rather sell shoes than help the same people who make ten times my salary turn a word doc into a pdf every fucking day.
$3.25 an hour is $9.37 today. Tell me what job that pays that much you can have a house, 2 cars, 2 kids with hobbies, save for them to go to school, and afford his own hobbies and interests. If I could do that at a $10 an hour job almost nothing about the job itself would be soul crushing. I'd be fucking dancing around the place all day.
A house in 1987 was average $125k, so I don't think that he had that house. HOWEVER, let's say they bought the house where Applegate was a baby, so about 1971.
Did the math. If he was buying it at 125K and on a 30 year loan that overall ended up nearly costing half again the sale price (187.5k) the monthly payments would suck up EVERY last penny of his paycheck. So yeah I am thinking bought way back. On a 30 year loan with the same would only be about a SIXTH of his $3.25 paycheck.
Not to mention IIRC the first time homebuyer's assistance that was available back then. Seriously holy balls how cheap housing USED to be in relation to minimum wage.
Yeah, but if he bought it in 1971m, when the older daughter is born, the house is only $28,100. Perfectly normal. And there are a few books about financialization of real estate and how that sunk the dream.
sfbiker
And then he ended up living in a $10M house in LA with a hot wife 20 years younger than him. Thanks to his successful closets business.
Snooj
I watched Twins recently and Danny DeVito, the poster child for poor struggling inept con men, lived in a really nice house.
thekingsfool83
Who keeps putting the sink outside???
Randomice
strippermagician
New coast guard merch
Misteree8
Not far. Just past his prime. Sedentary. Also, his job at retail shoe store paid for thatbhouse mortgage.
waldugar
what does it want now??
KillingTlme
Did they ever actually say he owned that house? Most of my lower middle class friend's parents and my parents were all Renters in the 80's and most of the 90's.
YpsilantiRomani
Yes he was TV fat and TV poor look at all the poor people you ever see in TV and look at the clothes they wear the food they eat where they're hanging out and other people appeared before
jethroismaxbaer5772
The driveway was made out of ground up women's shoes.
QuantumInc
TV shows always exaggerated the income of the main characters. A bigger house/apartment makes it easier to shoot a scene. You never want to through out an episode idea simply because "But they can't afford that!"
Detacheddavid
Would you find this situation acceptable if your daughter was a slut?
...
I would.
Jimmah1
That man was a practice squad player for the Steelers. Short lived, but definitely not too far out of shape.
johnblood616
He is a bjj champ
Jimmah1
Not a champ, but a black belt nonetheless. Forgot all about that.
johnblood616
Hmm. I thought he won some tourneys. Either way guh fuh him.
kingbobsfanner
God, it hurts.
dragonassbabe
my grandparents. they had 8 girls. they was considered poor in their older years. but not poor like people living in a apartment complex at that exact timeframe. that would be her daughters except 3.we all lived in apartments or trailers.
asm80dfa8sdfj
My grandparents had 12. They lived in a house in downtown St. Louis, with two cars. Every kid that wanted to went to college. They were considered very poor. By the time I was born, they were living in a trailer, even though kids moved out and available funds went up.
Steller1984
Don’t forget, the first episode of The Simpsons was about the utter shame of Marge having to get a job to help support the family because Homer wasn’t making enough.
iMcFly
What show is this?
CarInAVet
Married With Children.
iMcFly
Thanks. Will have to look it up. Grew up in the 80s and never heard of it.
jappie348
Defenitly not fat.
Nukls
Good Old Days
DeakVanNyke
yeah, and his wife was portrayed to be unfuckable
jethroismaxbaer5772
Because of her personality and laziness, not because she was ugly. https://youtu.be/8HkigfNAUvM
qtRaven
I remember that episode. The Mother in Law came for a visit.
PunnyTiger
he was never considered fat, but he was considered poor. People on TV always had improbably large places to allow shooting from a variety of angles and movement of characters.
LZorro
It says something about our current economy that he was able to maintain a household of four on the single income of a mall shoe salesman.
MyBackHurtz
I always thought he owned the store, otherwise he would have been canned.
PagetheFound
Nope. There are several episodes where his boss lady drops by.
SaturnineCult
I remember he was not very nice to his customers either.
BishlamekGurpgork
There's a reason all those old sitcoms had men who sold copiers or worked as a mailman owning homes and supporting a family.
KillingTlme
Rent prices were much more affordable back then. This house was probably $500 a month to rent.
NicronusPrime
Rent? Nah mate. Back then you could buy a house on a retail worker's salary.
DerpMeister
What's really telling is that the writers meant to have him appear to the viewers as a "relatable loser". The viewers should be able to laugh at him for being a loser, but still at times relate to him because he was still "one of them". Working in a shoe store, with a stay at home wife, two kids, a car, a two story house with a basement and a garage, he somehow still fit that narrative *at the time*.
Rakoth
Two cars, if I remember right.
DerpMeister
IIRC they only had that old Dodge. There were some episodes were a new or different car was introduced, but I think the plot of that season than always circled around how they then lost it again.
harthram
He wasn't considered fat. And he was still paying mortgage. He was poor because of his debt.
PlacentaEaters
Grimmrog
your dirty little hands
asm80dfa8sdfj
Soil me, daddy
Grimmrog
Moisturize me sink
MagnumRadhard
Anyone seen that weird David Faustino (Bud Bundy) show where every episode starts off with him in the middle of attempting to commit suicide?
asm80dfa8sdfj
Googled it out of curiosity, it's called Star-ving for anyone wondering.
MagnumRadhard
Thanks. I was half asleep posting that.
b00guy
There's something called house rich, cash poor. My parents were like this, they were broke because everything went into getting and keeping a house. What was left was sunk on groceries and repairing their crappy old car.
Now on the other hand the characters rarely ever talked about costs for things like mortgage or upkeep of the house but they did often joke about car payments.
rudegoldberg
Before I bought a house, sometimes I would wait a couple weeks before I took several paychecks to deposit in the bank... but never since.
Captkiller
They made a commercial about this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG-Z-kYSC4s
asm80dfa8sdfj
Keeping up with the Jones
Darkwell
Jones, singular. That one guy. What a fucker.
asm80dfa8sdfj
Yeah what a dick, making us all look bad!
SecurityBadger
About 10 years ago my wife & I took a cruise which stopped in Puerto Rico. We took a tour to the aquarium, which was on the other side of the island. The homes we passed were either McMansions with a shitbox car out front, or tarpaper shacks with a pimped out ride parked in front. It all depends on what is important to you.
dohcohv
I could sell my house and buy a Lamborghini, it's tempting.
WhiskyBravo
nah it's like that everywhere in the Caribbean. Just got back from St Maarten and it was like ... million dollar house, million dollar condo complex, shack with a bunch of chickens and goats, abandoned burned down shack, million dollar house, etc etc. I have pics of the goats and chickens from across the street where we stayed to prove it
LoftheDesert
Was he considered fat? He won a lot of fights, and there was that one episode where he carried a couch on his own and he became the hot man in town.
Then again, that show was all over the place.
johnblood616
He was supposed to be a shlub yes
tychog99
Not fat, but certainly out of shape
JoeT85
Al was broke all his money went to bills and Peg spend the rest. They never called him fat, but bald was a continuing joke and he was sort of a goon when it came to fighting.
ZackWester
I think they did tese him over his beer belly or that one was starting to show.
maybeamonster
op's image is light ragebait (incorrect-bait? wrong-bait?). it's just there to get people to respond to it.
CeruleanSky1988
Dad bod.
ThatDirtyOldMan
Don't let that hide the fact that he scored four touchdowns in a single game during the 1966 City Championship.
MrsHowVeryDareYou
Fat and strong are not mutually exclusive
johnzaku
Case in point, I'm pretty fat but also quite strong. Workin on it though
BishlamekGurpgork
But they usually don't coexist in people's perceptions.
JakeAhz269
Well, there's Kingoin
BishlamekGurpgork
I don't know who that is, but "Hence, usually" seems like it will probably address the concern.
chronozoan
Ah, the famous "country strong".
Zeeall
Yeah, just look at any of the strong man competitions. They look fat for the most part.
Apoxyus
Those are the types of dudes you should be scared of, not the ones with pretty muscles.
SergeyPrkl
well, not those either. It is the real manual laborers you need to be scared of. Real life Al Bundies.
EMHPicardo
His job was a soul crushing one.
necessity
Not many jobs these days that aren't.
ThatHurts
I gotta say. I know working retail is a pain in the dick, but I think I'd rather sell shoes than help the same people who make ten times my salary turn a word doc into a pdf every fucking day.
Iwouldbenick
My personal favorite is PDF to word. "i need to edit this PDF"... no you fucking DONT.
djhash
It’s the sole train.
tmutrmn
what job isnt?
SMB42
Cobbler?
Targe0
People who have a job that pays them well and that they find fulfilling.
smax410
I really enjoy my job
JonnyTightlips
Same...being a doctor is amazing and I'm very lucky.
Humputse
Same
SirButcher
Seconded - although there are some parts which I don't really like. Surprisingly, all of them are humans.
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
$3.25 an hour is $9.37 today. Tell me what job that pays that much you can have a house, 2 cars, 2 kids with hobbies, save for them to go to school, and afford his own hobbies and interests. If I could do that at a $10 an hour job almost nothing about the job itself would be soul crushing. I'd be fucking dancing around the place all day.
MusicPenguin
A house in 1987 was average $125k, so I don't think that he had that house. HOWEVER, let's say they bought the house where Applegate was a baby, so about 1971.
The house was $28,100.
Fuck it.
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
Did the math. If he was buying it at 125K and on a 30 year loan that overall ended up nearly costing half again the sale price (187.5k) the monthly payments would suck up EVERY last penny of his paycheck. So yeah I am thinking bought way back. On a 30 year loan with the same would only be about a SIXTH of his $3.25 paycheck.
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
Not to mention IIRC the first time homebuyer's assistance that was available back then. Seriously holy balls how cheap housing USED to be in relation to minimum wage.
MusicPenguin
Yeah, but if he bought it in 1971m, when the older daughter is born, the house is only $28,100. Perfectly normal. And there are a few books about financialization of real estate and how that sunk the dream.