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vitaminalgas
Poor baby...
beaubrent
The era of “why this and not that” is simply because of ratings.
ooomimi
This documentary devastated me. I didn't think I could handle watching it which is why I did. This little boys story needs to be known.
einthedog2
People want some escape now not some more serious issues
pancakesinthesky
That's the excuse many of those people will still choose when this is all over. If they're not escaping one thing, it's another.
IPlayWithFire
Yea but can we make any funny memes out of this kid? Not likely. Thats why you think no one noticed.. because there are no memes
Freakydarling93
I used to work for children's safeguarding and the complacency of the social workers is unreal. You see abused kids become abusive parents
thanatos777
The social workers are massively underfunded and overworked. Not to mention the private systems the government contracts out to, run by 1/
thanatos777
hate groups like the Catholic Church. 2/2
Freakydarling93
I'm in the UK. It's complacency because there's people who do a good job and then there's the repeat offenders. They have reputational.
PrincessPuffyPants
I agree but if you watched this then you know he wasn't in "foster care". The parents were turned in to CPS & they failed him miserably!
poet4nothing
His own grandfather failed him. Taking him away from his gay uncle who loved him and delivering him to his abusers. Bio mom and boyfriend.
PrincessPuffyPants
Let me correct myself now. He was in the mother & her boyfriends custody. The dad was not involved in his abuse.
margaretolson
The police also failed
MechanicalKid
Can't believe they told the kid he would go to jail if _he_ kept lying. That's fucked up...
RatBastard516
This documentary is very sad
Becker37
Tiger King is a joke we can laugh at. Children being abused and murdered makes people uncomfortable. They don't want to feel anything bad.
Becker37
If the people allowed themselves to actually think about this then their fragile denial would come crashing down and they're realize we live
Becker37
In a shitty and cold society. They'd see the monsters that control our fate and how truly helpless we all are. Denial is a powerful drug
ILoveCreamPies
I watched it. I felt the word was shitty before and felt the same after. No change.
Becker37
Do you know how many people see the world through rose tinted glasses?
TheDreadLordOfDownvotes
This should be required viewing for all CPS caseworkers
MacButchmaybebaby
The Gabriel Fernandez doc is hella triggering. It's very graphic and harder to watch then Tiger King. I watched it and nothing will change
MacButchmaybebaby
Until those people start doing their jobs. The social services team was dismissed of all charges.
margaretolson
That made me SO angry, “i did nothing wrong”. The fuck you didn’t
MacButchmaybebaby
Right!!!!!!! That part was the most triggering to me. That those people are walking around with that kids death on their heads! Disgusting
PeopleSeemToHaveLongNamesOnImgur
Man here's the thing though. Foster care system doesn't need change. All the procedures should have worked for this kid, the problem was
PeopleSeemToHaveLongNamesOnImgur
every single red flag was ignored by the people who had the final say to do something about it.
TruncatedAppendages
Life not bleak enough lately? Check this out and complete your emotional spiral!
KainWhisper
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D0RKUSMALORKUS
That poor kid. The system failed him
buurd86
People can care about two, even three, things.
WARHAMMER405
The CPS workers that failed Gabriel should've been lined up and shot for dereliction of duty and aiding and abetting.
PizzaSword
Always hated the “if X weren’t the focus Y would get solved” argument. They are BOTH awful and BOTH need fixed independently of each other.
thanatos777
I mean... Carole Baskin's husband was kind of a piece of shit. And the guy was shady as hell. I'm not saying she definitely didn't kill 1/
thanatos777
him... but also there's all sorts of shit that could have happened to him, given the stuff he was doing. 2/2
razalude
Gabriel is not alone in what happened to him. It’s a systematic, open secret or at least that’s how it feels.
xstickman
I know it's not the point, but NO ONE is "worried" about her husband. People are amused and entertained by the drama of it.
runsinmybuns
Former foster kid here: 10/10 people love to turn a blind eye to discomfort. It sucks, but just try put a little more love into the world
MissSiesta
I'm sorry for your struggles. You deserved better
Kaavster
I’m in a serious relationship with a man who was in foster care. It’s devastating, being black was worse. He reduced his siblings & got out
nopenononope
Working child protective services is one of the hardest things I've ever done. Some people are just trying to help kids.
Canofminus
Had a friend that worked w/parents who got their kids back from foster care, she quit after 6 months. She couldn't handle the selfishnous1/?
Canofminus
& entitlement a lot of the parents had. Switched to juvie prob & parole b/c she wanted to help the kids before they were parents 2/2
necessaryweevil
i hear you, but it's called entertainment because it's entertaining. doesn't make sense to compare the two imho
RightToJailNoTrial
Agreed.
SarcasticComment
No one is ever allowed to have fun. Having fun is fodder to peddle in guilt while soap boxing about some issue.
SarcasticComment
"Whil millions of Americans would rather watch the Super Bowl, they turn their eyes from domestic violence."
jimmyhowlett
That's sad. Cheap entertainment with shitty people is prioritized far beyond learning and seeing flaws in our countries.
ILoveCreamPies
I’ve watched them both. Nothing changed. One was entertaining, one was sad. That’s about it.
PickleDemon5
Easy to feel helpless when you watch these things though, I watch TV to zone out and have a laugh, don't always wanna feel bad
TurangaLeelaFry
Agreed. I watched tiger king with my husband, got some good laughs in when we needed it during covid 19. We have a son, can’t bring myself
Somanyquestions
to feed him to a tiger.
TurangaLeelaFry
To watch Fernandez documentary. Maybe one day but not now.
SchmetterlingThing
I haven't watched the Sandy Hook documentary for the exact same reason.
IAmAGoodNoodle
I BAWLED watching this documentary...and during more than one episode
LadyAzzura
Never watched it. As someone who had endured so much abuse to the point I now have D.I.D., I don’t want to A: trigger myself B: be forced to
LadyAzzura
See something like that. I don’t even know the story but I know I would be upset beyond calming.
andychristman2000
My wife was able to tough it out, I had to jump out a little more than halfway into it. God damn Fucking monsters walk among us.
zzpacksmasher
The monster was never under the bed, it was among us. Acting like it was one of us. Monsters are real.
icouldbeahotmess
I can’t read it or watch it. Was any kind of justice served? At the very least?
TheWittierRape
Mom got life, her bf got death penalty. The social workers were charged w/child abuse but I think their cases were thrown out?
tinamakingmecray
Yes they were thrown out. A miscarriage of justice if ever I saw it.Horrendous people-from cops to caseworkers to office people!
Theberberian
He got life, but Gabriel remains dead, so not really
icouldbeahotmess
This is so incredibly sad.
EdwardEH
I cant watch it. The amount of negativity in my head doesnt need to be added to. Humans are good at being cruel to each other.
JadedAFi
This. I know these horrible situations occur and this doco deserves all the recognition... Maybe I'm a coward. So hard to watch.
EdwardEH
Not at all. Theres just some stuff out there that will mess up your mind. Have the balls to say no and to protect yourself.
fandsor
No, I get ya. A friend recommended The Innocence Project to me and I said I couldn't watch it in my current headspace...
noblehouseofblack
Both adults should’ve been sentenced to death for what they did to this child.
cdbeard199431415
Nah let her be tortured in prison by mothers with sons Gabriels age. She will probably be killed but slowly and painfully.
AmunKnowN
Post like this irritate the shit out of me. No ones protesting for Joe exotic. But there are people every day fighting for kids like Gabriel
ElbowDeepinaTinyOctopus
This was a widely popular docutainment with wide reach. There could be dozens of them. Dozens!
ElbowDeepinaTinyOctopus
*Tiger King was
IPlayWithFire
You write this as if all the attention tiger king garnered has caused all kinds of reform to laws regarding exotic animal ownership.
Virophile
...or husband murders
theHatredburrito
You realize that not enough time has passed for such things to happen?
Skyhighatrist2
Tiger King was entertaining. Watch this and the feeling and need to create change and awareness Wil be real.
SarcasticComment
BUT MY OUTRAGE!
ShamanOfRamen
The only thing that has changed is the phrase "the bitch Carole fuckin' Baskin" entered into the American lexicon
LoudAngryJerk
I feel like a more comparable comparison would be Dear Zachary, where changes did happen.
TerzieffGodefroy
So heartbreaking. This doc was also a series of system failures.
LoudAngryJerk
also, on another note, "comparable comparison" wow. Those words came out of me, and I am so disappointed in myself.
pimpquisition
I mean also who would make memes about this whereas tiger king popularity and "impact" is based on chatter and memes
RightToJailNoTrial
Exactly, nothing has changed since Tiger King aired
MrNom
Nothing has changed since anything aired. There's not a single series that has changed humanity as a book has. (Bible, Torah, Coran, etc)
tryingtoohard
give it a couple millennia, Tiger King could end up making some waves
HappyEngineer
If anything more people than ever have seriously considered buying a tiger.
kmikl
I really hope those people take the president's advice on bleach therapy.
inconsolabledeplorable
"Advice".
kmikl
Musings.. I'll accept that. Let them be the guinea pigs in the gas chamber.
twatswatterphilosopher
Tbh I doubt people consider the tiger king thing to be a serious issue. It's just entertaining. I've not heard of this documentary 1/2
BobLazor
As a white straight male, what ever I do is wrong anyway...
edmundstonian
Exactly. Tiger king was juicy trashy tv that got a lot of people's minds the whole thing. Not for me but was a great diversion for many.
AvocadoHouse
I hate reality TV, but this was a car accident that kept getting crazier. It was just a distraction. I don’t give a shit about anyone on it
orangecicle
That's why I stopped watching. I thought it was about the abuse of the tigers/unethical breeding. I don't give a shit about rednecks.
FourLegsGood
Yeah people value entertainment. Look at all the silly cats!
cspinasdf
Tiger king is reality television.
SarcasticComment
Yup. But we live in a world of whataboutism where no one can ever have fun.
benreilly73
Strap yourself in then it's an unbelievably fucked story :-(
twatswatterphilosopher
But it sounds really heavy. Maybe people are going through a lot rn and just need entertainment. There are a lot of battles to fight 2/2
ArtOfKarolMichalec
Yeah I dont really jump on the tiger king bandwagon, seen him in theroux's doc, friends said its meh so gonna give it a miss
kmikl
This was one of the hardest things I've watched. I've seen abattoirs in operation and worked in forensics, for scope of reference.
chaos021
Man so many people are already on the edge because of having to deal with this virus. Watching something that heavy right now while/1
chaos021
/1 watching the DC shitshow is enough to make me homicidal and/or suicidal.
AmunKnowN
Yeah who would have thought that people are just looking for a distraction from the normal. Not to change the legal system.
kmikl
That it was just permitted to happen is an offense to human dignity, and putting that stuff on is just salt in the wound, but I get it. /1
kmikl
/2 No one wants to admit that these kinds of people exist and watch other bullshit to keep comfortably numb. I don't blame them.
AmunKnowN
I absolutely agree. A more fitting show would be the life of gabriel Fernandez. We shouldn't glorify the awfulness.
Ikingg
Upvoting l, since this justifies my lack of action on critical issue.
whoexactlyareyou
Samesiez, one day I'll take action on something. That day is not today but def upvoted. Slightly better than thoughts & prayers
StripTheFleshSaltTheWound
Yeah, I am about to cry just thinking about it. Focusing on child abuse destroys me. I couldn't hold my friend's children once after >>>
StripTheFleshSaltTheWound
>>> reading an especially heinous story of child abuse. I'm pretty sure it gave me PTSD symptoms. Couldn't be near little kids for months.
BhawbTheMagnificent
Everyone thinks their cause is the most important. Sorry, but I've got my plate full and don't need to spend every free second watching
BhawbTheMagnificent
heartwrenching documentaries. I've already got a few causes I fight for, and everyone needs time to take care of themselves too. 2/2
IndianaJonesNeglectedStudent
It is very heavy. I watched the whole series and started researching fostering and adopting after it was over. I don't want bio kids 1/2
IndianaJonesNeglectedStudent
But have considered foster and adoption. 2/2
blairsette
Amid Corona virus outbreak, mr. Trump talked to journalists to let them know that the dude got a harsh sentence and he’ll look into it
HellaPictureSeeing
You will feel hate if you watch it. I'm almost certain. If not at least disgust.
nonepizzawithIeftbeef
It is really, really heavy. Tiger King is literal entertainment to people, there was some low level hand wringing over animal treatment
nonepizzawithIeftbeef
But that’s about it. I was not entertained even once during the Gabriel doc, and my heart still bleeds for him and his siblings.
DownvoteAllYouWantImstillRight
This is why. and im sure it is heavy, i dont need that kind of dark realism infused in my mind right now. I have my own battles rn.
FractalChainsaw
Your username is extremely relevant.
PrincessNausicaa
Without having seen either documentary, I feel sorry for Carole Baskin. People are having fun with her but she might be innocent.
ElbowDeepinaTinyOctopus
The people answering seem to think that Netflix Documentaries are unbiases presentations of facts.
PrincessNausicaa
My understanding of this kind of TV is that the producers wind people up and film them in such a way that they look bad.
VeganFeministFlatEarther
Nah, none of them are innocent. They're all trashy people who have made very morally questionable decisions.
chaos021
And definitely several illegal decisions as well
gr33narrow
She's definitely not. Joe's a piece of shit too. hopefully they all rot.
VeganFeministFlatEarther
Don't forget Jeff Lowe, who was arrested in 07 for defrauding a domestic abuse charity, then on the show saying "I've never been arrested."
CatatonicCowMoo
We should fight the right ones though!
ApparentlyImaPsychopath
This documentary is hard to watch, so horribly sad
ImabouttogoTRexonthesenuggets
What platform is it on?
lvbr188888
Netflix i think
KillingTlme
Which is why people aren't watching it and making jokes and memes about it. Tiger King was a distraction from our normal shitty lives.
PeteButtigieg
I couldn’t watch more than 20 minutes of it, absolutely heart breaking.
rainbear00
Same ?
LegendMasterX
Yeah, part of the reason people are talking/meming about tiger king so much is that its a full entertaining/crazy people. It would be hard/
LegendMasterX
to meme or bring up this topic on social media
tinamakingmecray
This documentary ripped me apart.i was so pissed after watching it I didn’t know what to do with myself. I was angry with EVERYONE.poor baby
Blanketstealer
This documentary was hard to watch, but ultimately I’m really glad I did. I’m a CASA volunteer in my state. There are so many children
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involved in the Foster Care system/DCF that are abused. Bringing awareness is so important especially now when the abused kids are stuck at
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with their abusers. If you have extra time and patience consider becoming a CASA. It doesn’t require a lot of time. But you can make a
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huge difference in the life of a child.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
I wish I had extra time for this. My two kids are still 3 and 6, I just can't take on something new right now. But by the time they're /1
bunnyinthemoon
Whats it called?
Yallreadytolearn
The trials of Gabriel Fernandez. It's on Netflix.
illogicalphallusies
and Tiger King was a Rollercoatster to watch, which is why it is more popular
vapology
My heart goes out to this little boy. I cannot fathom to understand how a child can be treated that way... Can we send them to Guantanamo?
IDidntDoIt
My husband was a CPS worker. Couldn't do it anymore because of how bad the system was and kids being returned to bad situations
angryasian
Watched the trailer and a part of an episode with my wife. I couldn't get through the whole episode. Forget sitting through the whole series
HappyShark
I cried during the first 15 min at just the thought of what this kid went through
VictoryWine
I couldn't get past the 6th episode and I hear it just gets progressively worse. I'm at a loss for words over it still
RachaelDanger
Hadn't heard of it before this post. I'm only 7 minutes in and a weepy fucking mess.
nevertrustawetfart
Yeah, I couldn't watch it.
comehomefransbrauder
I couldn't make it past the nurse in the beginning before I was in tears.
spookyactionatadistance
I watched it with my SO couple weeks ago. It stays with you. Even just remembering it now gives me a heavy heart.
Bandidodesandwich
That's exactly why people (me included) don't see this documentaries.
YesYouJustLostTheGameAgain
I honestly made it 30 min in... I can’t willingly watch that kinda thing. What is wrong with people?
crazyplantladee
It was a boomerang of emotions. Either very sad and crying. To outright angry and pissed off. One or the other.
Taluien
And there's the reason why it isn't as "widely popular". Tiger King is a carwreck, but an amusing one. This one hits hard&doesn't entertain.
wonkydemateo
Yea. Like why is pizza so fattening. If healthy food tasted like pizza we wouldn't be so fat.
Taluien
B4 any1 asks: amusing carwreck is something like a clowncar banging into a lamppost at 10km/h, 20 minutes of variations of "ow, my head".
Bandidodesandwich
Maybe thats why people are more worried about tiger king?
kmikl
People are cowards.
KillingTlme
Nobody is "worried" about Tiger king. The show as a a cluster fuck and entertaining because of the insanity in an unrelatable environment.
GrammarAndPunctuationNazi
Reminded me of "Dear Zachary". It stayed with me for a long time. People are terrible :(
icouldbeahotmess
Dear Zachary messed me up. I couldn’t stop crying. For days after even.
FvcktangularBondulance
Don't bring that up. The only movie ever to punch me in the gut so hard I felt like I was receiving the news about someone I knew.
andychristman2000
Holy shit dear Zachary was brutal. I thought I was somewhat immune to most tragedies but that shit still haunts me......
PresidentOfMexico
My wife is a child therapist and has had to call the police several times on foster parents and get them moved again,it’s terribly sad,we 1/
teamDaenerysforever
As a person who was in 3 foster homes thank your wife for me it probably means alot to the kids I wish someone did that for me
PresidentOfMexico
Try and get them little things to make them feel a little special, some of these kids just have trash bags with cloths they take with them:(
Taxicat
Would those Ziploc vacuum-seal bags be a helpful item, perhaps to donate? They could carry more stuff in safer packaging, 1/
Taxicat
and it wouldn’t leave any of that distinctive trash bag smell. Or is it possible to donate a storage unit? 2/
TheOneAndOnlyButtStabber
Why do people want to foster kids and abuse them? Does the system pay these people or get some sort of tax benefit?
LateNightBunnyParty
When each of my foster kids came to live with us, that's all they had. Garbage bags and paper grocery sacks. :(
iwenttousersubandalligotwasthislousyusername
Unfortunately the foster care system is a target-rich environment for abusers. One of my elementary teachers fostered kids who came from
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such shitty places that he said he would regularly have a storage box for them where they could keep non-perishable food because they had
iwenttousersubandalligotwasthislousyusername
become so accustomed to hoarding any food they could get their hands on due to abuse and neglect either in their biological parents' place