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PeaceBaby
He'd better get used to assimilating because ... well, just because.
ProudAussie
I had an American expat arguing with me on a West Australian Facebook news piece about Trumps win and he shut up when I started that now his Trump had won, he could get the fuck out of my country as we don't want immigrants here anymore.
GriffinMann41
I had a mind boggling conversation with my mom earlier where she said "Im happy with how it turned out" and I told her, "Since you use Medicare and Medicaid a lot, and live off your Social Security too, you know he wants to axe all of those and explicitly make your quality of life plummet right?" and her answer, honest to god, really was just "Well, Kamala can't run a country! I'm glad she didn't win"
OkButWhyWereTheyFilming
He gonna get deported
JacktheKind
I'm baffled that anybody but figuratively small dicked red pill dudes vote for him.
Lots of people apparently base it on the abortion thing and their social christianity. (like HOA, but for faith)
Like how do you grow to 60, have a wife, daughters meet valuable people he would hate and think... nah, if I vote him one tiny aspect of my faith will be held up, while the underlying core beliefs will be violated. Its literally what all prophecy warns about, dudes who lie for their own perverse gain.
SoberAndBored
trump just ran to stay out of jail (and it fucking worked. I'm furious). The people behind him have learned how to use his abject stupidity to get what they want, and what they want is a far-right christian nation. They've told him they're going to replace all the important people with people who are loyal to him, which means themselves, and they know where all the real levers of power are, including things like controlling gerrymandering and voting rights so they can fix subsequent elections
tarataqa
Trump's demographic is old racist white males. Anyone else who votes for him is just needlessly hurting themselves.
JohnSmithterms
As a dad with a daughter. I cannot fathom how any father would vote for that monster. Words fail me.
EroticZombiePants
The line has been drawn clear. Everyone has to completely disassociate with family members who voted for Trump. Especially when they start collecting the names of "dissidents". Trumpers will gladly send even their own families to the Camps.
Iwannaswiminapoolofpuppiesohwaitmaybenot
I think this extreme. Family values are more important, they come first. Provided your parents loved you and respected you, unfortunately they may be have a different worldview but cutting them off is Awful.
EroticZombiePants
I'm lucky my parents also hate Trump with a passion. I feel like any Trump supporter doesn't respect others as People though.
benjamindco24
A Mexican friend of mine who once told me he knows of a few relatives on his stepmothers side of the family are illegal. He told me he voted for Trump. I told him after Trump takes office to expect to be contacted by INS for turning them in for deportation.
Margrave9000
Well, they should simply not have conversations with him if he's a tRumptard.
zerosleeper
I’m a war refugee from Europe, Slav. As my father said “you’re one of them till you open your mouth”
TheN8
Tell him to practice his native tongue, he's gonna need it when he gets sent back there (whether he's a US citizen or not!).
sadurdaynight
Wise people learn from others mistakes, smart people from their own, and fools never learn. They decided wisdom wasn't cool, so all we can do is sit back and see if they're gonna be smart or foolish going forward. See if the rose colored "our guy won!" glasses come off as they start to realize what a mess they just made for everyone, not just "the libs".
brightorangeshorts
People can be so thoroughly scared that they would give up who they are and what they believe.
FingerLickr
Tell him he's TRUMP's PROPERTY now. Tell him he needs to choose how he thinks of himself. A pet? Or a Slave. Then tell him: MARK MY WORDS.
irespectfullycourtyermam
The Spanish / Italian / Portuguese aristos and monarchists of the pre industrial but post renaissance era were some of the most prolific colonisers - they raped and pillaged their way through an unimaginable number of indigenous people to steal their wealth and land - trace that lineage forward and what do you get? The only reason they were so effectively othered in the USA in the first place was because of Northern European Protestant stock saw the Southern European Catholics as competition.
irespectfullycourtyermam
The evangelicals will never accept them - but it won’t stop so many of them looking to reclaim a dominant oppressor status. Sure look at all the first gen of Cuban refugees, descendants of slave wealth - but too brown to be accepted- except sort of by similarly spat on by the whitest of white Italians. Deference to corrupt power in the hope of maintaining favour will never work long term. But the lie is true temptation.
anirri
That response is amazing 🤣
awildcharmander
my dad's wife had a life-saving abortion when she was younger. he voted for trump. when I pointed out that he voted against healthcare for his own fucking wife, he stopped responding.
tarataqa
Cut him out of your life. He doesn't deserve you or your time.
awildcharmander
eh, it's not that black and white man, I still love my dad of course, enormously. the thing with him is that he thinks the R's are the ones doing all the charity/education/infrastructure. he wants more wealth distributed to the lower and middle classes. he just has the wrong party, and for some reason I just cannot convince him of this no matter how many articles, studies, and documentaries i show him
HowDoYouDoMrMagoo
My Dad has told me he will NEVER not vote Republican. NOTHING will change him. I’m sure many others are just like him.
chaosundivided
a Gadarene charge into endarkenment
Margrave9000
Cut him out of your life. He doesn't deserve you.
tarataqa
shitty parents are shitty
TJsIDoMyOwnStunts
IM exactly the opposite…
fractalsphere
Schadenfreude is thick here, but if people didn't realize this before, then they're just fools, idiots, and easily led sheep.
teddybearsucide
I would say yes they are easily led sheep, and in fact more than half the country since trump won the popular vote. But I think its important to acknowledge that dems are easily led because republican have been saying for years that Biden mental capacity was gone. But not a single dem acknowledge or agreed or believed because it was assumed to be just a political talking point from the republicans. Then of course the debate happened and Biden was forced out of the race because of that.
DukePhelan
And they deserve everything they are going to get. The rest of us not so much.
BrainTaffy
I’ve heard a lot of people talking about now being the time to be kind to each other, and I’m like… I think we missed that train a while back. In Trump’s America, there is no being kind to one another. The time to be kind to one another was a decade ago at this point.
Frankasti
I think the point is for people with values to stick together, to make it through the storm together, instead of losing people on the way. I don't think it has anything to do with being kind to Nazis.
LumpPump
the misery of others made me sad, but this election told me i must learn the joy in the suffering of others... this timeline sucks and no one is coming to save us
Slashenaar
We've been too kind, for too long. Being kind got us here. Being mean got them there.
HeywouldJablowme
I'm going to continue to put the theory out there that Trump and his minions cheated as bad as they accused the Democrats of cheating in 2020. We'll have to wait and see.
RoninTactican
it does seem suspicious to me that voter turn out was so bad...but if the current administration doesn't see any signs of wrong doing then its just a consipiracy theory.
Virus322
We aren't going to see anything. She conceded and Biden said it was a "transparent and fair" election. They're just going to jet off into the sunset with their funding, security detail and healthcare for life.
DukePhelan
Its going to be even funnier when the trump freedom vans come for her dad in the night. I can hardly wait for all the Latino men who voted from trump to find out they aren't 'the good ones' to republicans.
oopsIdroppedmypocketpasta
"Hey, thanks for helping, all the other degenerates are dead"
"Yeah, I'm really glad to-wait, other?"
*bang*
oopsIdroppedmypocketpasta
I don't look forward to that. What I want is for the main body to suffer. These other people, the minorities, are tools. *Those people individually* should suffer. But they're not going to. They're bringing it down on everyone like themselves. And that's terrible.
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SneakyGaryTheSerialHorseDrowner
I for one see no problems with a bit of schadenfreude over evil people facing consequences.
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SneakyGaryTheSerialHorseDrowner
Whether they're stupid or evil is a purely academic distinction at this point, and one I don't bother to make any more. Let them suffer. You go have fun up on that high horse of yours spewing your happy clappy rainbows and unicorns bullshit, just keep your voice down - adults are talking.
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DukePhelan
I don't give a shit, these people voted for this and now its time for them to reap the whirlwind.
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DukePhelan
That's fine. You can be appalled that doesn't affect me at all. What you need to understand is repercussions are the only things these people understand and sometimes they really need to feel the hurt to get the message. If that gets them and their families thrown into the camps, well they were warned, and still they persisted. We are all fighting monsters, and sometimes you need to get down into the mud to win against such creatures.
deadbodiesfloatingindarkness10
Yep, trying to prepare myself for that.
sevenfingerman
I keep telling myself that I shouldn’t be surprised by the Americans voters willingness to vote against their own self interest
rukeman
It's a tradition.
norrinraddsboard
As an American, this one blows my mind every.single.day
annoyingpeoplewithmyheathencomments
they don't view it that way because they get their info from propaganda
WarlockSniper
"I don't care if I am hurting, if I can make those I hate hurt too, it'll be worth it".
An absurd ideology, but here we are.
Imalwaysready
Guy0185
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidmack/this-woman-voted-for-trump-but-now-the-government-is Ignorance will come down biting hard.
tarataqa
jgjgjgjgjgjgjg
"This is gold, Jerry, GOLD!" Gawddammit, this story is too funny. And that woman is dumber than a sack of bricks.
Chereazi
That is a really good response
Fanner50
When arguing with Trumpsters, who can’t construct a sentence worth shit, I respond with “if you wanna stay in this country, you should learn the language”
SadsPikkelson
A lot of Latinos and women are going to be reaping what they sowed. To those that voted Kamala, I'm sorry. To the rest, enjoy the deportations, enjoy always looking over your shoulder, enjoy you and your children and your wives being second-class citizens. You sold out yourselves and what could have been your country to your oppressors. My sympathy well has run dry.
DingoDingus
That last statement is exactly where I'm at. These fuckers are going to see the worst economy in the history of the United states, and I have absolutely no sympathy for them. You dug your grave, now lie in it. The only frustrating part is they dug my grave along with theirs, and I'm not being buried. Not willingly at least.
lichtly
I know a guy that voted Orange, he said his family came here legally and he's an American, I said "Not with the last name Gonzales you ain't, not no more"
tinybartender
I'm also angry at everyone who withheld their vote in protest over Gaza or something else that Project 2025 will make so much worse.
mebe21
I'm a white Hispanic and even I'm scared my last name will eventually be enough to get me gone. I don't understand how the fuck any minorities who can be picked out of a crowd aren't scared
ThisNameUnavailable
Legitimate question, not trying to be a dick, what is a white hispanic? Like white person from a latin american country? I thought hispanic referred to skin colour, but maybe it refers to nationality?
SpiralRazor
My dude, Hispanic is not a color. smdh
ThisNameUnavailable
I clearly was ignorant, and i respectfully sought knowledge. Nothing wrong with that.
mebe21
Hispanic is an ethnicity which is a cultural and heritage thing more than a physical thing (race) . My great grandparents came from Mexico. Because skin color can be weird genetically, and latin American generic ancestry can get weird too, my grandfather and mother are physically indentifiable, but you wouldn't be able to tell me apart from any other white American most days. That Mexican culture is still something I grew up with and is a big part of who I am and how I see the world.
ThisNameUnavailable
Ah okay, thank you
spacecowboyein
I've always thought of White Hispanic as people from Spain rather than Latin America. But I know a lot of people use that term just to refer to light skinned Latinos.
DesperateDunn365
Stephen Miller was talking yesterday about denaturalising immigrants. So even those that went through the required process and got citizenship may not be safe.
UNHchabo
The post got resurfaced yesterday, but it was posted LAST OCTOBER, bragging about an initiative from 2020.
youngfarty
And there is historical evidence of congress stripping birthright citizens of their citizenship as well. The decisive supreme court case that ended those practices was a product of the Warren court, the legacy of which our current Supreme court has been pretty explicit about wanting to dismantle.
I'm not saying it will happen, but there is no provision of American law or practice that is sacrosanct enough that it cannot be torn down by bad actors.
SadsPikkelson
Maybe they'll send some of the right wing Cubans that religiously support Republicans and ruin Florida back home. Give them what they asked for.
7heBored
I wouldn't wish forcible deportation upon anyone who actually went through the process of legally immigrating, or most who are here illegally honestly, but it might convince people they fucked up
ZackWester
the problem whit the "illegal immigrants" spiel is that theres are drowes of "illegal immigrants" thats only iligal because they was offered a work contract from a US company a US company that then did not do there shit and probebly then left the worker high and dry after the worked did what they was paid to do ("if they got paid at all"). then there is the secound group that are trying to do everything correct but they are set up to fail. in order for a imigrant that have walked over the
SadsPikkelson
Back in the distant past (three days ago) when I believed that a coalition could be made, I would have agreed with you. Now I'm all for deporting anyone who voted for Republicans whether they are refugees, asylum seekers, or legal immigrants. Too late for that to matter one way or the other, now.
iamtheBlueNinja
In a game lobby some dude heard me speak French and screamed "we're in American so speak American!" I just replied with "the language is called English you idiot".
herrcane
iamtheBlueNinja
I lol'd loud!
fractalsphere
My Indian neighbor (who I have been regularly friendly with, his kids and mine are in the same grade) told me the other week that he's not teaching his youngest kid (like 2 years old) ANY English at all (they listen to only foreign language TV in the house). I can't wait to tell him this.
sadurdaynight
There's a lot of indian foreign exchange students in my apt complex bc of nearby college. One stopped by, smiled, said "trump won". Yeah. Why do you like that? "He's gonna get women out of the work place so us men can get more jobs". Interesting. You do realize he's gonna crack down on the H1B program too, right? "What?!" Did you think the white racist guy was on your side?
Tgrahn85
Way to set the kid up for failure from the start
tarataqa
This is what Latino families do in TX. Kids under 5 speak only Espanol so they think/dream in it. Then after 5 the schools teach them Ingles
2074red2074
This is actually fine if he's going to public school. He'll learn English there.
fractalsphere
He needs to be able to understand the teachers in kindergarten and know how to speak in response. They'll put him in a remedial program for the first 2 years to get him up to speed
Penguinsandbroadswords
Most states require English Language Intervention for non English speaking students, which takes away from normal class time and disrupts their education in other areas, not to mention the added expense to the school district. ESL classes/inclusion and SPED accommodations are two of the biggest budget costs to most public schools, which is why most private and Charter schools, which are always held to the same legal responsibilities, often refuse admittance to students requiring them.
2074red2074
This is true for older kids, but a five-year-old starting in Kindergarten will be fine. I'm assuming they're gonna start speaking English at home or at least allow the kid to watch English media once he learns their first language.
fractalsphere
No, he explicitly told me they listen to no english language programs in their house. I've been in their house with my kid on a playdate (way before the election) and they had some Indian or Nepalise programming going.
RawSuger
i simply cant gauge how fucked we are. will trump just be another terrible REP president or is this our reichstag moment
mormonbatman
Our reichstag moment was Jan 6, 2020. We’re fucked. We’re so fucked.
RawSuger
that was the beerhall moment and we didnt even manage to get him in jail. as a guy said; prepare as if this was the reichstag, hope for reagan 2.0
sadurdaynight
We've had republican controlled govt in the past. But the folks in charge weren't saying they would be dictators day one, suspend the constitution, nor be criminals who now have carte blanche to be bigger empowered criminals day one. So, yeah. I don't think the republicans are just gonna deregulate some shit and make rich people richer this time around. This time we should be prepared for real attacks on civil rights, and possibly police given carte blanche to act like gestapo.
RawSuger
yeah ive spent the last 8 years shitting on ppl who were like oh thats just the donald he doesnt mean it...now i find myself fervently hoping that against all reason they were right and neither trump or his gang meant it, it was just locker room talk when thy said they'd set the military on immigrants and political opponents...it seems like most media is so calm that i cant rule out the possibility they are right...als the alternative is just too much to take in until i have to
jasondeslin
My hope is in the military. I was in, so yes I fucking know exactly how many join up "to kill someone legally". But those fucksticks don't stay in. The people that do believe in this country. Even the stupid ones. Anyone that's been in 20 years believes in this country and the Constitution, and most of the lower ranks are the same people trump will try to target.
Worry about cops, they're mostly Nazis. But have faith in the military. He can't replace all of them.
RawSuger
i remember my captain fantasizing about assaulting the radical left. there's a lot of coplike people in the military, and REPs spent time getting their ppl in power there as well. but yeah agreed, my hope is in them as well...but the same kind of ethos might stop them from intervening if trump sets the proud boys and cops on college protestors
jasondeslin
You said it right there. Your "Captain". That's the officer equivalent of a pfc. (Assuming army.) Getting promoted 5 times or more takes a lot more dedication, as with that much experience, you can almost always make more in the civilian sector.
Not saying it doesn't happen, but traitors are more and more rare the higher you go. In fact, talking like that could have really gotten him reprimanded if not demoted or discharged depending on how vile the rhetoric and if it was recorded.
SheepySleepySmuggler
I think the question is less about Trump and more about his larger team. Trump values loyalty, while running a large government requires intelligence (in spite of what many may think and I may have said in the past) and teamwork. Trump's last term failed to achieve a lot because every time he got a team in place he would lose trust in them or people would refuse to implement his extreme ideas and Trump fired them. I'm aware Project 2025 has been training staff to be loyal and prepared but...
SheepySleepySmuggler
...we will have to see if that works in reality as I'm not sure that Trump's weaknesses will allow it to work.
bridgebrain
Definitely kristallnacht, but germany is geographically tiny, and america is huge. The orange one and his cronies are 100% following the hitler playbook, but I have pretty high doubts it can handle the sheer scale of the country with the roughly 30% national support he has. Which means we're still fucked, but I think it'll end in the collapse of the US into civil war, as opposed to WW3
jasondeslin
Can't believe I have any hope to share, but remember, most of that 30% think the bad shit about him is fake news. Once people they love actually start dying or disappearing, a lot of that support will dry up.
Not saying forgive them, they are too stupid to self govern, and they are all traitors, but for most of them, it's stupidity, not malice. Or at least not the broad spectrum malice that will stop them from turning on him when a loved one's face gets eaten.
downsouthfarm
Once people start dying they are going to put their fingers in their ears and go la la la la la la
LDRcycles
America is now a fascist dictatorship. The only question is when the civil war will start, not if.
Varnna
53 years old here, and I'm pretty sure that if we don't fight back from the community up, we're fucked on a scale that beggars imagination. This jackwaffle will see us into another Russia. They had a fountain of feces 180 feet tall in Moscow last week because no spending on infrastructure. THAT is our future if we don't fight back. I don't want that.
SomeDetroitGuy
The best case scenario is that Trump is lying about a bunch of his priorities - mass deportations, tariffs, abandoning Ukraine - and will not do much of anything except stealing billions of dollars from the country. The worst case is that he's Herbert Hoover while allowing Project 2025 to go full-bore.
LatterdayCandide
The first thing Trump will set in motion? Stealing and grifting.
judithCat
My moneys on the worst case option
sadurdaynight
He's in a catch 22. If he doesn't follow through on his threats his repub congress will impeach him as unfit for duty. If he does follow through, they'll use him as long as they can then chuck him aside.
psmith00
but he got what he wanted as far as his court cases go. they've already starting winding down the cases under the no charging a sitting president policy. hell for him if he cannot get them to drop it completely and he makes it to the other end of his term but my money says he'll be dead within a year.
Rovylern
Not even impeached. He’ll be dumped through the 25th amendment by June at the latest.
Duraxis
Someone was saying on another post a while back that America is kind of due for some kind of dictatorship period and revolution based on the history of other countries. I can’t find it now though.
I hope it’s not during my lifetime at least
circlebreaker
Young children were purposely separated from parents/siblings/caretakers as a means to traumatize them. The guards working the processing centers (warehouses with chain link fences bolted to the floor, same as for riots) were recording themselves mocking the distress of crying children. Some of the kids died , one in particular that I remember most was one who passed wrapped around a toilet that he had been puking into instead of at the hospital where he may have otherwise recovered.
MyVerySmarterUserName
Yes.
cepacolusmaximus
are you ready kids? here we go:
I pledge allegiance to the flag of Donald Trump's America.
And to the leopards eating people's faces, but totally not my face though.
One Reich, unquestionable (under penalty of death),
With misogyny and racism for all.
LordHavelock
More likely a Years of Lead kind of thing, a la Italy.
BloodLoveRhetoric
We have given our era's Hitler the most unassailable strategic position in the world, the most powerful military in history, and ten thousand nuclear weapons. No Allies will ever be able to liberate us, we must do it ourselves. And too many of us will not wish to be liberated.
drduffer
If you haven’t already, read “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich”. It’s a window into how this all will likely turn out.
zFUBARz
Sadly with the military power of the US, the Fall may be even harder to achieve this time.
SneakyGaryTheSerialHorseDrowner
Aircraft carriers and stealth bombers aren't a lot of use against a well-motivated insurgency as shown by... [gestures vaguely at the last 25-ish years]
IHaveGreatKittenRecipes
More than that, look at the shitshow that was the US trying to take on Vietnam. Those guys had *sticks* and still managed to fend off the largest and strongest military on the planet, and embarass the shit out of them in the process.
zFUBARz
Sure, but drones, surveillance systems, phones and other communication these days. It's not impossible just it's a new paradigm.
LatterdayCandide
Germans are a different people than American. "It Can't Happen Here" by Sinclair Lewis is more downhome. And 'folksy' JD Vance is a more representative of an American Hitler. than a criminal, makeup-wearing moron from New York.
TuckerCarlsonWarnedYouTheredBeGirlsLikeMe
Ukraine's fall, Russia's continued push into Europe, letting Israel provoke nuclear powers, letting NK and China do whatever they want. Even if democracy survives I don't know how much of the world will be left.
browsererror
Trump isn't Hitler because he doesn't care enough to be such. However a portion of his base wants him to be Hitler, and that has always been the problem. The 78-year-old orange man is a mascot at this point. Who takes power NEXT is the real battle.
Thajurriesexcuesed
Super fucked. There are no guard rails on Trump this time. He can do whatever horrible things he can think of, and the system of checks and balances that is supposed to prevent tyranny is controlled by his side... The stupid, entitled, working class losers have damned us all becauseof their fragile pride! This is not hyperbole.
n0d2ablindh0rs3
Trump is a fucking idiot who doesn’t care what happens to the populous. It will be people like Steven Miller who will mould this country into a facist nation.
usestname
*populace
n0d2ablindh0rs3
Thank you.
MerriMod
This is the part everyone keeps ignoring, seemingly willfully. Trump is overtly a complete fucking moron who doesn't even know where to begin pulling the levers of power. Everything that actually went bad in his first term was done by the GOP/foreign powers people already around him, using him as a convenient idiot and rubber stamp. The GOP is going to 25th Trump as soon as they feel it safe to do so and install Vance as president, because he's a straight-up puppet and not volatile like Trump.
n0d2ablindh0rs3
I think the thing that gets my hackles up more than anything are the democratic leaders falling all over themselves to congratulate this piece of shit on his win, like he isn’t going to allow the US population to be terrorized for at a minimum of 4 years. The DNC are just as much scum as the GOP. They are letting this fucker get away with serious crimes because they were afraid of the fucking optics. And they congratulated him for it.
amb1021
He'd have to have a confirmed Cabinet and Congress would have to sign off on that. Imo it won't happen unless he's literally rubbing his own diaper contents on his face on national TV. They'll keep him as a figurehead, I think.
n0d2ablindh0rs3
He will be the lighting rod.
PectorialMuscles
Won't matter after he guts climate change science infrastructure and we all fucking die in 50 years lol
StellarJay77
Trump will be just as awful as he was the first time. However, with no checks and balances and with the guard rails off this time, he will set in motion the path to authoritarian fascism. I doubt he will last more than a couple years into his term though and it will be Vance who will become America's first King.
PorneliusHubertII
This is probably their last chance to truly cement their minority rule, so I expect they are gonna go whole hog on reworking everything in their favor.
Leithoa
Proper fucked.
HeywouldJablowme
Oh we're fucked. And even if Trump dies, we're still fucked, because of Vance, who's probably even worse.
Kingdomonsterdeath
Vance is even more beholden to the people running trumps campaign. I really won't be surprised if Trump "dies in his sleep" a year into his term. Vance is 100% in the project 2025 playbook.
FingerLickr
It's our christofascism enslavement. That the Theobros have been planning on MAKING people of this country be Christians. Look them up.
annoyingpeoplewithmyheathencomments
he plans on dismantling the department of education.... let that sink in
jasondeslin
It used to be illegal for black people to read. I'm NOT saying that we aren't in for a very bad time. But we fought our way up through worse, and it isn't just the bad parts of history that repeat, the good shit does too.
Having said that, fuck being a part of historical events, if you have a chance to leave, take it. Emigrate if you can. If trump pulls an early Hitler and starts deporting, try and hitch a ride on the bus. If you can't leave, delete social media and buy a bible. Blend in.
cepacolusmaximus
"the good parts repeat too..."
are you sure?
because I've seen The Turds Afloat on reruns forever, and the second season of "maybe people should be nice to each other" appears to have been cancelled.
jasondeslin
They are trying to rewind. But this isn't the first time in history women, LGBT, and minorities have had rights to take away.
And there have always been people fighting back against the darkness. I know it's hard, especially if your own mental health isn't great. I've been fighting suicidal depression for 29 years now, (since I was 13). But there is always hope.
Things just have to get REALLY bad before people are willing to risk their lives to fix it. As in, nothing left to lose.
SoberAndBored
trump just ran to stay out of jail (and it fucking worked. I'm furious). The people behind him have learned how to use his abject stupidity to get what they want, and what they want is a far-right christian nation. They've told him they're going to replace all the important people with people who are loyal to him, which means themselves, and they know where all the real levers of power are, including things like controlling gerrymandering and voting rights so they can fix subsequent elections
IWasGoingToMakeEspresso
I spent the first 12 years of my adulthood in Texas and experienced it firsthand. I’ve been in bed crying about it for 2 days. All of my old traumas from that time are coming back and I no feel longer safe in the blue state where I live now.
ElusiveThing
I suppose no-one quite knows yet. The range of options starts, on the positive end, from catastrophically fucked, sadly.
Senderoth
Kingdomonsterdeath
If they tried this, it would send the country into a new depression and there would be food riots again. Forcing immigrants and women out of the workforce would destroy so many industries. That would account for almost 1/2 to 3/4 of the workforce. It would be disastrous.
historycat
Plan as if it's Reichstag. Hope for Reagan pt 2.
4chanrefugee
Someone get Jodie Foster on the phone!
Rovylern
RawSuger
this is really well put. overwhelmingly bleak. but really well put.
RawSuger
talk about being stuck between a turd sandwich and a douche
kriswinters
The danger isn't so much Trump as it is the administration he's going to put in place. And they're DANGEROUS.
Xenarion
This. Republicans now have the president, the senate, the house, and the supreme court.
ceallachdon
Trump won't make it to June 2025, his health is already so horrible it will plausibly look normal. Then the non-loose cannon puppet that actually listens to his handlers will be "in charge"
Ialwayslookhungover
Trump will be too busy golfing to give a single fuck what they rubber stamp his name on.
Neurisko
And grabbing dollar bills with both hands, metaphorically. He'll be making bank behind the scenes, trading favors, extorting at-risk countries, etc.
scout27302
NEVER FORGET Selling our secrets
Neurisko
There are so many awful things he's done, it's really impossible to remember all of them all the time without a list to refer to.
ChippinStrata
My hope is that they are as incompetent as round one. But it might be empty hope
HeywouldJablowme
And bloodthirsty.
RealPenguin
Hopefully, everyone he employs will be as incompetent as he is so they won't get anything done. Welcome back Infrastructure Week!
depressedscientist
This. This is what I keep having to remind people of. The president is only as bad as the people they staff.
FuzzyX
Trump has quite a problem with staff with most ending up allied against him.
Theoj05
That was back in his first term when this was all so brand new and some of those first hires were legit at their roles. All the most vile creatures now see what they can get away with if they're on his good side and join his cabinet.
FuzzyX
I am quite sure his cabinet will soon fall apart with disagreement job ending.
OnePostCloserToAHappierLIfe
A historian would be quick to note how many atrocities came from the cronies of the Reich, over their leader.
ForlornHopeful
My glimmer of hope for y'all is that, given his health, there's a reasonable chance he'll keel over soon and once that happens it's going to be a shit show within the Republican party. They have no cohesiveness without him and their base will fragment over local leaders, he was the only one who could keep them focussed. The problem with turning them into a cult of personality is that cults schism hard when the leader dies
AmZero85
I can't tell you how much I look forward to hitting the laugh react on social media posts announcing his demise.
scout27302
Vance is “totally on board with project 2025” and since the heritage foundation picks these “winners”…
Xenarion
On the other hand, if Vance manages to get enough sway (or be enough of a puppet for those who have sway), we'll have someone just as horrible, but smarter, thus more dangerous.
RawSuger
yeah agreed, they need a real fucking stranglehold to keep power after trump. they can do a lot though, to stay in power or stop DEMs from changing things back when theyget some lukewarm, manchin/sinema-ish infected majority
kriswinters
The regimes in both the Soviet Union and China survived the deaths of Stalin and Mao.
Mxlespxles
This WAS our Reichstag moment.
There WILL be a kristallnacht to follow.
We are not safe.
We are not OK.
We are fucked
deltaforcain
Let’s hope we get some Stauffenberg moments…
georgejimmydoodle
The only hope is that we can all take a few Nazis down with us when the time comes. Wonder if meal team 6 helpings will still follow Dear Leader when he does take all the guns.
sadurdaynight
Yeah, if someone wants to be a dictator they first have to conquer their own country with a show of force. Make everyone terrified. Tell one group they have the privilage to beat down other groups wo consequence. Let witch hunts be a thing. After that happens, you can thrn start a war to justify why your chosen suppoorters must also be cracked down upon.
Mxlespxles
Bingo
SteveMND
They will be working as FAST as they can, too. They will try and make ALL their biggest changes—election revamps, gerrymandering, deportation, etc.—BEFORE the midterms in 2026, because they have to make sure that further elections will not be able to dislodge the GOP from their stranglehold. Because a lot of people WILL be outraged by that point, even if they somehow weren't two days ago.
When Trump said, 'you will not have to vote again,' it was not hyperbole.
KinetoPlay
It's gross but I think the best non-violent solution would be to somehow contact him and convince him that the people want his ideas, not some lame plans someone else made up and said was his. Let his ego fight for control so nothing gets done.
I don't think it'd actually work, but it's a pleasant thought.
SteveMND
Yeah, that's HOW people already got Trump to do a lot of things. Since before he was even elected, Trump was a known security threat because, due to his massive ego, he was very easily manipulated if you knew how.
Back when he watched Fox News each morning, they'd often sprinkle the shows he'd watch with topics they wanted to see him talk about later that day.
I /guarantee/ that referring to his rambling as "the weave" was a term some intern came up with before convincing him it was his idea.
HostMigrationPleaseWait
Pitchforks will be the only solution
GoddessPurpleFrost
Oh honey! No! I have like 800 PDFs on how (fireworks) work. Purely for firework learning purposes. Did you know you can build simple radio transmitted fireworks in just a short amount of time? Everyone loves fireworks!
Gestalt7
Didn't you hear? Drones are the new fireworks...
GaiusWydra
Gotta link for those?
GoddessPurpleFrost
Yea the level of disillusionment people have is crazy to me. Like, guys, that was it. Anyone who read P2025 and paid attention knows whats coming. They explicitly stated they will start the camps and executions up again. Just like Germany, once they get in power itll be a few months of setup, then its going to bang out in a few days. They have a completely unopposed and unrestricted red government. It's OVER. Get the fuck out now, or learn to make pipe bombs and resist before youre disappeared
wandermanspacebot
I hear you but remember that at their core the majority of GOP representatives are self-interested politicians to their core. They're already thinking about saving their seats in 2026. They know during the place down will hurt their own personal interests, which is all it's ever about for them.
UtahGimm3Tw0
Lol bold of you to assume they’re not just going to round up all Democratic Party members and just get 99% of the vote via the Saddam Hussein method
wandermanspacebot
That's laughably ridiculous.
Mxlespxles
Having an interracial marriage in a rural area has made me so. fucking. scared.
GoddessPurpleFrost
The way white women voted this election, it's like the majority of them WANT to die in childbirth. There is roughly a 15% chance a woman, naturally, will die in childbirth from any number of complications at any stage during gestation. A texas woman already died when surgeons did nothing (but she was a republican, so she got what she wanted), and her family were asking why no one was saving her. My advice: pack a go-bag now, leave if you can, or get prepped for a struggle.
OffTheGrid99
Move to the west coast please
EveryGOPAccusationIsActuallyAnAdmission
I live in California and was talking with my brother about this after the election. I really hope CA, OR and WA are ready to get their hands dirty. You've heard of the iron curtain? This is the West coast curtain! We need to stand up to the fascists at the federal level. Huge levels of military, economic and social support live in these states. The US government would be foolish to try to push us to do their will. They are fascist though so...
GaiusWydra
My bet is the orange dictator is going to send troops to the Mexico border and when they’re “attacked” he’s going to declare war on Mexico to “stop the illegals.” But it’s mostly going to be to distract from what he’s going to do here.
JusticePhrall
Why would Trump need a distraction? Everything he does will not only be immune to prosecution but must not be questioned.
GoddessPurpleFrost
Nah, not likely. First comes the purge from within and when you run out of local monsters to hunt, THEN they will make monsters on the outside. That part will be in a few years, the local stuff will be in the next 2 since they dont want to wait for midterms if there's going to be a rebound from P2025
scout27302
Or do the cowardly thing and blend in like I expect the vast majority to do.
scout27302
This reminds me of The Scarlet Pimpernel. “They seek him here they seek him there…”
ThatOtherTransGirl
You can blend in for safety and still resist. In fact, blending in is a vital part of it so you're not immediately targeted.
Kyzyl
Biden's administration is doing what they can to "Trump Proof" as much as possible.
xj4low
There goes any more student debt relief help killed by Mr had his debts cleared at least 6 times with bankruptcies.
SteveMND
Which will amount to nothing, sadly. With an actual honest-to-god PLAN this time, PLUS control of all three branches, PLUS a corrupt Conservative SCOTUS on their side...? There's very little they won't be able to push through now.
IrrationalNumber
Except there isn't anything they can do, that Trump can't undo. The GQP have control of all the branches of the federal government.
Kyzyl
At least they are trying.
Tengenstein
Trying means shit all. It's what you tell people to make them feel better, to escape responsibility. Trying without achieving is just expensive failure.
ActionJohnnie