How dare he suggest a journalist actually do research to find out that Tabitha is her name. They'd have to dig deep into this "wick-e-pee-dia" which just can't be trusted.
I'm not married. But when this happens to my friend whose husband is in a better position, she absolutely loses it and asks people then and there. People literally introduce her to others as she is the wife of so and so, whilst she herself is in an amazing position. This was almost always done by men in her case.
My friend and her husband are BOTH doctors and she even finished before him, at an event they got introduced as "doctor and Mrs..." I could see her blood pressure rising, it's infuriating
I used be be fairly well-known in our town. My wife spent 30 years teaching and as a counselor here and is much more involved in the community than I. Shifting from her being 'my wife' to my being 'her husband' has been a joy. So friggin' proud of her...
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There are times it can be acceptable when the relationship is the relevant part, like at a reunion, funeral or wedding, but the introduction would still include the wife's first name, which is how she would expect to be addressed thereafter.
It makes some sense if they already know her husband but you can't JUST introduce them as his wife, maybe mention that they are married after doing the intro properly first
People know Stephen King, they don't know Tabitha King, so it's entirely appropriate to phrase it this way. That being said, a more respectful way to phrase it would have been "Stephen King and his wife, Tabitha King" or some such. But I don't particularly think anyone should be getting angry over such an insignificant thing as this, considering much of society places emphasis on the most contextually relevant name at the title. Such as "plaintiff" or "client". It's not disrespectful, per se.
No, honestly, I think it's pretty reasonable to be peeved at being reduced to "oh, and that guy's wife I guess". Particularly when it happens repeatedly, and to a lot of people, and generally always to women specifically. And especially when it was her idea to start with and should therefore probably be her name first.
Stephen King will now write a horror story about a deranged housewife getting vengeance on an editorial department for not having her name in an article. It's gonna be a best seller and already has a cast selected for a movie!
If I recall, he actually calls out this sort of thing in, uh, Lisey's story, where the wife of a deceased author finds a newspaper clipping he saved refferring to somethibg along the lines of "x and wife" with a little annotation about how sjed find it amusing. I think. Haven't read the book in years.
to play devils advocate, i feel like its largely used when one person is well known, or assumed to be well known, and the other is not. *I* have no freaking idea who tabitha king is, so this is useful for me, as stephen is, in fact, a household name. but there are better ways to phrase it
I have a PhD, my husband does not. We do not share a last name because neither of us cared and I didn't want the hassle. The number of goddamn fucking times friends and family have called us Mr and Mrs HisLastName is STAGGERING.
One time there was some pomp and circumstance where we had to be introduced to a room like we'd just arrived at a medieval ball. They introduced us as "Dr Stickywiggit and his wife." My husband referred to himself as my wife the rest of the night.
I agree with the sentiment, but at least in this specific case the article is from the Chicago Tribune, so the fact that she is the wife of a Chicago Bears lineman is actually salient to their audience.
Would've been real easy to not make that the subject though. "Corey Cogdell, wife of Chicago Bears lineman, wins bronze medal" puts the focus on her and mentions the local connection while adding two words. Simple stuff.
That said, I would intentionally turn this shit on its head by going with the wife's name instead of my own, in all correspondence addressed to the family.
My wife worked for a churchy little nonprofit for 12 years and all the mail we ever got from them, even when she was the one responsible for mailing them, came addressed to Mr and Mrs my name.
This is convention. One that's in need of being forgotten. I'm trying to get people to move away from titles altogether in computer systems. Just store a name, if people want to include a title in their name, let them do that.
After I got married, I didn’t change my last name, but still got a lot of mail addressed to “Ms. Husband’s First Name Husband’s Last Name.” I was reduced all the way down to just “Mrs.” Not even an implied first name, like I was an article of clothing he wore. At least “Mrs. Husband’s Last Name,” while incorrect, implies I’m a being that has a first name.
Here in France a woman STILL gets her name changed one way or another. My wife had the "choice" of either becoming "Mme MyLastName née HerLastName", or "Mme HerLastName épouse MyLastName" in every legal document. Unsurprisingly, no such thing on my side, obvs.
I believe so, yes. It's an explicit option to "francize" your name(s) when you obtain the French nationality (but not an obligation). The married name thing, in practical terms, means she can keep her original name for everyday stuff and how she's referred to (which is what we chose), it's just that on all official documents it says she's my spouse, and nothing says so on mine.
Neither of my parents wanted to change their last name. Also, I have three names and my given one is the middle one. Me and my brother have my mums last name, but I still got mail adressed to "Maria Johansson", (guess why my mum didn't want to change her really rare unusual last name?) which is neither my first nor my last name. It is also the most common name in Sweden. Easy to identify the spam, though.
My best friend and his wife moved to Texas for a brief stint. He was unemployed and she was making 6 figures. All the house paperwork was purchased under her name, yet EVERY single piece of mail regarding their mortgage, utilities etc. were addressed to him, even though she was the account holder. Fuck the patriarchy.
ALSO Best-selling author Tabitha Fucking King. Sorry. Proud Bangorian here. The King Family were and are another part of our community. Excellent people, great neighbors, extremely humble and down to earth. We get pissed when people fuck with Tabitha.
"Stephen King and wife Tabitha King" would have been easy to write. Or "Tabitha King and husband Stephen King". There's no real reason to reduce her to "and wife" when she's just as involved as he is, if not more.
This misses the reason why editors do this: because readers recognize one person and not the other and the editors are trying to pull in readers (which is their job, as it so happens).
That was not the point they were trying to make. "Stephen King" pulls in views, "Tabitha King" doesn't. It has nothing to do with gender or marital status. To clarify: I don't mean that what you're saying never happens, just that in this instance the only name mentioned is the the recognizable one.
Written that way, I'm not sure I would make the mental connection that it is the famous author. I'd be too busy wondering who Tabitha is to notice the second name.
Also working the algorithm and people's attention spans: if you want clicks, you want the attention-getter to be right at the start. Here, that's very clearly going to be Stephen King. The reality is, even if they DID include her name prominently in both the title AND article, probably 99.99999% of readers/viewers will not care and would forget it almost immediately. And THEY are the audience it's aimed at, not Stephen and Tabitha.
doccynical
How dare he suggest a journalist actually do research to find out that Tabitha is her name. They'd have to dig deep into this "wick-e-pee-dia" which just can't be trusted.
nonickname23
In the future, they should be referred to as: "Big-T and Stevie with the pen."
HillOfBeans
Username seems antithetical tho
RCSpotz
keyblader1985
By noting her achievements, that was both savage and classy
chbarts
It used to be the rule that, on marriage, women were always called "Mrs. Husband Name" That is rightfully out of fashion now.
Pheehelm
DoucheBaggington
That's probably his best role.
Gaelwyn
At least they stated his name.
cousteau
Wow, Tabitha King's husband seems pissed.
slatsisanoldie
I was going to say he ol’ ball and chain seems pissed
ThailandExpress
nomatterwhathappensimstilllost
I'm not married. But when this happens to my friend whose husband is in a better position, she absolutely loses it and asks people then and there. People literally introduce her to others as she is the wife of so and so, whilst she herself is in an amazing position. This was almost always done by men in her case.
reichstein
A better position?
What... like the back of a Volkswagen?
DumpingSh1tandBeingKind2
Yep, it's ridiculous! She's right to be furious!
airen
Someone said they got an invitation somewhere as “Dr & Mrs Lastname” and she complained bc that was her twice, her hubby wasnt a dr like she was
Spoooookypants
My friend and her husband are BOTH doctors and she even finished before him, at an event they got introduced as "doctor and Mrs..." I could see her blood pressure rising, it's infuriating
oldguyexlurker
I used be be fairly well-known in our town. My wife spent 30 years teaching and as a counselor here and is much more involved in the community than I. Shifting from her being 'my wife' to my being 'her husband' has been a joy. So friggin' proud of her...
Icouri
That's adorable.
oldguyexlurker
Thanks, icouri. She is actually also adorable. Nice to 'see' you.
lapus
I have been accused of being racist against white people. I've only had white men trying to tell me what to think, how to act, what to wear, who I am. I have recently decided to stand up for myself. Online, I appear a troll, I think. But irl, I'm making old white men uncomfortable.
canadianreserve
There are times it can be acceptable when the relationship is the relevant part, like at a reunion, funeral or wedding, but the introduction would still include the wife's first name, which is how she would expect to be addressed thereafter.
TacoPoweredHelicopter
It really depends if someone is already known."wife/husband of (known person)" is fine.
SamuthNBS
It makes some sense if they already know her husband but you can't JUST introduce them as his wife, maybe mention that they are married after doing the intro properly first
SirRichardOfHead
Here in Finland a newspaper wrote Dr. Jenni Haukio and her husband on some story. The husband is our previous president Sauli Niinistö.
trinxter
King and Queen.
faphappyscreencappy
Editors should cry pardon, they have forgotten the faces of their mothers.
thefinglongerer
So few words, yet they chose the wrong ones
SushiJaguar
People know Stephen King, they don't know Tabitha King, so it's entirely appropriate to phrase it this way. That being said, a more respectful way to phrase it would have been "Stephen King and his wife, Tabitha King" or some such. But I don't particularly think anyone should be getting angry over such an insignificant thing as this, considering much of society places emphasis on the most contextually relevant name at the title. Such as "plaintiff" or "client". It's not disrespectful, per se.
Fishkeeper
No, honestly, I think it's pretty reasonable to be peeved at being reduced to "oh, and that guy's wife I guess". Particularly when it happens repeatedly, and to a lot of people, and generally always to women specifically. And especially when it was her idea to start with and should therefore probably be her name first.
Huhwhatcrazy
Claim the fuck down. It’s not a male vs. female thing. It’s a celebrity vs. non-celebrity thing. Brittany Spears and her husband, etc
JustBoone
Stephen King will now write a horror story about a deranged housewife getting vengeance on an editorial department for not having her name in an article. It's gonna be a best seller and already has a cast selected for a movie!
Gelaticat
He actually already did. Took him like 5 minutes back in the 90s.
JustDeathAndTaxes
If I recall, he actually calls out this sort of thing in, uh, Lisey's story, where the wife of a deceased author finds a newspaper clipping he saved refferring to somethibg along the lines of "x and wife" with a little annotation about how sjed find it amusing. I think. Haven't read the book in years.
JustDeathAndTaxes
It honestly calls out a few issues the wife of an author might deal with, one of which, sadly, is a lot of condescension.
MegaDeuce
He should write one about the presidential candidate that's going to cause WW3 and needs to be stopped.
BDBottom
Yeaaaaaahhhh.... The Republican Party used it as an instruction manual for selecting candidates.
ZorroMcChuckNorris
And it will have pages and pages of awkward teenage sex.
TallynNyntyg
And people will still not say her name.
snarkybitch
Or she can write her own story since she's a novalist as well.
leejn88
Plot twist Tabitha writes it actually
JustBoone
Oh the delicious irony if she wrote it and they published it under Stephen's name. Like damn, did they even READ what the plot is!?
snarkybitch
She is a writer! Has had several books published
DumpingSh1tandBeingKind2
And I for one can't wait to read/see it!!
wadatahmydamie
Good news! He finished writing it while you two were commenting
JustBoone
I'd like to pre-order a hardback edition please.
ArcUlfr
Always love when I can root for the horror movie 'villain' and feel good about it.
ArcUlfr
Or book, as it were, though I usually watch horror versus read fantasy and science fiction.
TheSlouchOfBethlehem
He's 76 now, btw. Time flies.
cousteau
Like a banana! No wait
VashTehStampede
He's a decent guy.
dontmagpie
to play devils advocate, i feel like its largely used when one person is well known, or assumed to be well known, and the other is not. *I* have no freaking idea who tabitha king is, so this is useful for me, as stephen is, in fact, a household name. but there are better ways to phrase it
Hooooooo
This. But also, while donating was great, why she complaining about not getting credit? They donating for credit for to be kind?
moebiusstrip
Boston AP changed the article title to: "Stephen and Tabitha King give $1.25M to genealogical society"
https://apnews.com/article/630d71d02b76490487d1e8b5b58ec574
stickywiggit
I have a PhD, my husband does not. We do not share a last name because neither of us cared and I didn't want the hassle. The number of goddamn fucking times friends and family have called us Mr and Mrs HisLastName is STAGGERING.
One time there was some pomp and circumstance where we had to be introduced to a room like we'd just arrived at a medieval ball. They introduced us as "Dr Stickywiggit and his wife." My husband referred to himself as my wife the rest of the night.
sublimitee
You can win an Olympics medal and still just be the wife of football player. Even when the story is about you winning your medal.
Merky600
Should have included his stats in the headline.
UWantSumFuk
You can be nominated for an award and be at that event and still be labelled your girlfriend's guest https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11327109/amp/Beth-Mead-laughs-called-girlfriend-Vivianne-Miedemas-guest-Ballon-dOr-photo.html
GigglingWordBearer
I came to post the exact same image, hats off.
sublimitee
It's almost like we visit the same image sharing site
HandsomePenguin
Yeahhhh
Sinael
Wife of a bear?
Is this the woman that chose bear I heard so much about last month?
Debug200
I agree with the sentiment, but at least in this specific case the article is from the Chicago Tribune, so the fact that she is the wife of a Chicago Bears lineman is actually salient to their audience.
dingosmush
Regardless, her name should have been in the headline.
sublimitee
Would've been real easy to not make that the subject though. "Corey Cogdell, wife of Chicago Bears lineman, wins bronze medal" puts the focus on her and mentions the local connection while adding two words. Simple stuff.
Debug200
Oh definitely
JJohnston94
Why is "my old lady" your wife, but "my old man" is your dad?
Howlingowl
This reminds me of the article when Melissa Gonzalez won an Olympic medal and all the headlines referred to her as the Detroit Lion’s QB wife.
huey9k
To be fair, the Detroit Lions need all the publicity they can get their hands on...
hipdysplasia
Our financial advisor sent correspondence to Dr. and Mrs. We are both physicians. :(
NKato
Here's my headline: "Tabitha King, wife of Stephen King, exorciates local news editors for their unconscious bias."
NKato
That said, I would intentionally turn this shit on its head by going with the wife's name instead of my own, in all correspondence addressed to the family.
BDBottom
"Tabitha King, novelist and wife of Stephen King, exorciates local news editors for their unconscious bias."
NKato
Also works.
z1chefdaddy1
My wife worked for a churchy little nonprofit for 12 years and all the mail we ever got from them, even when she was the one responsible for mailing them, came addressed to Mr and Mrs my name.
dashers
This is convention. One that's in need of being forgotten. I'm trying to get people to move away from titles altogether in computer systems. Just store a name, if people want to include a title in their name, let them do that.
Xenarion
There's some irony in the fact this post only has a "Stephen King" tag.
garbuhj
It's almost as if a "Tabitha King" tag wouldn't be known by most readers so it didn't make sense to name it specifically
Xenarion
Which could then be said about the article's title too.
garbuhj
What? That makes no sense
Xenarion
Why not? You expect the newspaper's readers to know who Tabitha King is but not Imgur users?
HMKwrites
After I got married, I didn’t change my last name, but still got a lot of mail addressed to “Ms. Husband’s First Name Husband’s Last Name.” I was reduced all the way down to just “Mrs.” Not even an implied first name, like I was an article of clothing he wore. At least “Mrs. Husband’s Last Name,” while incorrect, implies I’m a being that has a first name.
ItHappenedInThe20thCentury
Here in France a woman STILL gets her name changed one way or another. My wife had the "choice" of either becoming "Mme MyLastName née HerLastName", or "Mme HerLastName épouse MyLastName" in every legal document. Unsurprisingly, no such thing on my side, obvs.
HMKwrites
Wow, I’m kinda shocked France doesn’t let women choose their name! Are people allowed in general to legally change their last names?
ItHappenedInThe20thCentury
I believe so, yes. It's an explicit option to "francize" your name(s) when you obtain the French nationality (but not an obligation). The married name thing, in practical terms, means she can keep her original name for everyday stuff and how she's referred to (which is what we chose), it's just that on all official documents it says she's my spouse, and nothing says so on mine.
Thesaya
Neither of my parents wanted to change their last name. Also, I have three names and my given one is the middle one. Me and my brother have my mums last name, but I still got mail adressed to "Maria Johansson", (guess why my mum didn't want to change her really rare unusual last name?) which is neither my first nor my last name. It is also the most common name in Sweden. Easy to identify the spam, though.
s0lid0nyx
My best friend and his wife moved to Texas for a brief stint. He was unemployed and she was making 6 figures. All the house paperwork was purchased under her name, yet EVERY single piece of mail regarding their mortgage, utilities etc. were addressed to him, even though she was the account holder. Fuck the patriarchy.
s0lid0nyx
This was in the past two years, BTW. Not the 70's.
WhoIsBoop
ALSO Best-selling author Tabitha Fucking King.
Sorry. Proud Bangorian here. The King Family were and are another part of our community. Excellent people, great neighbors, extremely humble and down to earth. We get pissed when people fuck with Tabitha.
Mewmus
If they just said "tabitha king" nobody would have known who the fuck she is
HillOfBeans
I certainly would.
Fishkeeper
"Stephen King and wife Tabitha King" would have been easy to write. Or "Tabitha King and husband Stephen King". There's no real reason to reduce her to "and wife" when she's just as involved as he is, if not more.
garbuhj
This seems like the right way to do it IMO
lordratner
Yup
Fishkeeper
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andexer
This misses the reason why editors do this: because readers recognize one person and not the other and the editors are trying to pull in readers (which is their job, as it so happens).
"Stephen King" attracts readers (clicks). "Tabitha King" does not. I'm sorry.
dentd
Yeah I'm pretty sure I've seen this with other couples where one is a household name and the other is less known.
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Qualdan
That was not the point they were trying to make. "Stephen King" pulls in views, "Tabitha King" doesn't. It has nothing to do with gender or marital status. To clarify: I don't mean that what you're saying never happens, just that in this instance the only name mentioned is the the recognizable one.
Beathoven70
Exactly.
cousteau
At least they could've swapped the order. Instead of "Stephen King and his wife", go with "his wife and Stephen King".
HillOfBeans
"Tabitha and Stephen King donated..." is fewer words than "Stephen King and his wife donated...". Your premise is false.
uzetaab
Written that way, I'm not sure I would make the mental connection that it is the famous author. I'd be too busy wondering who Tabitha is to notice the second name.
CheesecakePi
Also working the algorithm and people's attention spans: if you want clicks, you want the attention-getter to be right at the start. Here, that's very clearly going to be Stephen King. The reality is, even if they DID include her name prominently in both the title AND article, probably 99.99999% of readers/viewers will not care and would forget it almost immediately. And THEY are the audience it's aimed at, not Stephen and Tabitha.
Intentionallysapphic
Okay so like perpetuating the erasure of a woman's identity and reducing her to her position beside a man is justified? No. No it is not
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garbuhj
That's a nonsense take. If it was a famous woman married to a mostly unknown man, they would've done the same thing