imgur loves their children that "look" like adults, trust me, next time someone posts "young hot girls" just post a comment questioning her age and you will get obliterated.
Although I agree with this sentiment/true fact 100%, I have seen a million posts like this and zero pundits using any of these phrases. Is this happening somewhere that I just haven’t seen?
Legally, laws got more and more precise because child rapists would escape justice on a technicality around 'imprecise' legal language. And to also reflect severity. A man who touches a 15 year old on their leg is still a creep that should be jailed, but what about the men who kidnap an even younger child?
News media can only report actual charges, not what people think laws 'should' say, because newsrooms can go bankrupt from defamation.
The law is the law. If it's set at 18 it's 18. Simple as that. We can go into moral stuff, development and the like but that's a wide, complicated and imprecise topic.
In my country age of consent is 15 but when I look at a 15 year old the only thing that's hard is to figure out how I got this old that she looks like a kid to me
Laws a written for the most vulnerable. I’m capable of driving comfortably at 125 MPH on the freeway but I drive 77 because the law says 70. That law is written because I’m sharing the road with people less physically able than I am. There are 100% for sure very mature 17th but the law is written for the ones that are not. And for the trolls, yeah I know there’s more than the legality to this but my comment is about the law
'I'm capable of driving comfortably at 125MPH' --- yeah, until you're not. Your driving that fast puts everyone in your vicinity in danger, and accidents can happen to anyone anywhere. Just saying.
Somehow, magically, when the moment of their birth happened exactly 6,574 days ago, that child becomes a woman, and can legally consent to a record-breaking gangbang. But just hours before this time, it would totally be child porn. It doesn't have to make sense, that's just how it is. It's just an absolute threshold, there's absolutely nothing that can alter it. All humans are equally mature on this birthday.
I actually agree - we really shouldn't be obsessing over teenaged girls to this extent. Eighteen or not, they're still teenagers, and teenaged girls are as dumb as teenaged boys.
Seriously, the "just barely 18" porn is quite literally "here you go, guys - she's legally an adult, but mentally and emotionally she's still a kid! Have fun with the destruction of her innocence!" It IS indeed creepy as hell.
You should never read the comments under such reddit posts. They don't even have to be of the "barely legal" type and it's still creepy as fuck. It's just that they are so much worse under such posts. Some 40, 50, 60 year-old creeps telling girls all kinds of nasty shit. It's sickening.
I'm like 89% certain you're just a troll, but on the very off chance you think you're making a good point, it's not that 18 is nessesarily where everyone starts thinking of a person as an adult, it's that we need to set an absolute minimum boundary or, as we've seen, some assholes will do things with children with no limit as to how young they'll go. Most sane people still look down on anyone in their 40s dating somone 18, because, as we get older, even those in their 20s and 30s feel like
The (then) 31 year-old husband (also a father) of a friend of my mum's cheated on her with my (then) 17 year-old ex-classmate. The parents then consented for some reason. They dated for a while but eventually broke up. I don't recall if they also had a child, but the whole thing didn't last long. His marriage and his child's life ruined over some underage pussy. All because he had to exploit the hormonal horniness of a teenager. Make it make sense.
I made a response to them, and... thinking about it, they make a good point. The "barely 18" porn caters to the fantasy of defiling a girl who is mentally/emotionally a child, but legally an adult. Which is creepy as fuck.
Of course, we also recruit 18 year olds into the military, where they can have their innocence destroyed in even more horrific fashion...
Society set that limit, numerous times and in different cultures, at different numbers. At this point the 'number' that people seem to want to use eliminates an entire class of people, and results in transition from child to adult occurring overnight. That is EXACTLY what it is saying, to say that a 17 year old female human is NOT a woman.
Europe handles it good imo; Yes they have some very low sex allowed ages, but they do come with age-gap laws, because most Europe countries accept teenagers are going to fuck irrelevant of age limits, hence the often low age, but the caveat is the age-gap. A 30 year old bedding a 16 year old is still going to see prison.
Yes, society has to set the limit of what the rock bottom bare minimum age somone can be before it goes from being creepy and disturbing to ABSOLUTLY FUCKING NOT! Here and now, that age as been agreed upon to be 18, and ANYONE who says a day before 18 is no different than the day after deserves to have their genitalia removed via a rusty cheese grater, then be force fed the bloody remains...or to be removed from society so they can no longer rape children as a bare minimum.
They're not wrong that that that limit is extremely subjective. In most of the US, it's 16. In Europe, there's nowhere that it's HIGHER than 16.
It's doing a disservice to teenagers to pretend like a 17 year old has the same reasoning and maturity as a 7 year old. That's not excusing abuse of teenagers, it's maintaining honesty. It's also why I prefer using the phrase "young girls" to describe Epstein's victims. It serves as an accurate description without infantilizing teenagers in general.
Hi, person in the EU here where the minimum age of consent is above 16. But also in the EU, the age of consent is different from the age in which certain acts against children are criminalized. Prostitution, abuse and sexual coercion would be considered crimes against children if they are under the age of 18 in the EU.
Caveat for Europe age limit, it often comes with Romeo & Juliet laws (age gap laws). Yes 16 is legal, if you're 14/18 (most of the time). Full adult is still 18 in most Europe countries. You bang a 16 year old in Europe as a 30 year old, you still going to see prison in many of them.
If you read it, you'll check that in the second section, the minimum age of consent in EU is 18 (see international obligations), all lower ones come with caveats, even the 'unrestricted' ones in the EU.
children relative to what we've seen and been through. However, as it's at least above the bare minimum, we won't nessesarily want to castrate them as befits anyone choosing to prey on somone below the minum mark, we just shun and/or mock them instead. Still a form of punishment, but less severe because at least they're not a fucking pedophile, like anyone who would try to argue that "if 18 is okay, why is one day earlier any different?"
Did you catch my link about states with no minimum age for marriage? Here it is. Basically, 10-year-olds can get married in many states. In the 1990s, states were raising their age of consent. Where I live, the age of consent is 16. Add in the "Romeo and Juliet" exception, and a 15-year-old can consent to sex with an 18-year-old. Or, for that matter, a 12-year-old and a 15-year-old cab have consensual sex.
Can I add fuel to the fire? Ahh 18, I can finally have that nasty gang bang but I won't be able to drink the memories away about this terrible decision for another 3 years.
Actually, the drinking age should be a little later, since it's based on the idea that alcohol can prevent a brain from properly developing, and the brain doesn't stop developing until the mid to late 20s... I'd be okay with moving the age of consent to that point to. Let's just say 30 for everything and call it good!
It's been soundly debunked that the brain finishes developing in the mid 20s. The researchers who did the study say the results have been completely misinterpreted. There's been a lot written about it if you're interested.
melandevile2000
I’ve been all of those children once. Can confirm.
Shoutrr
you gotta be a pedo too to try to alleviate the crime by misrepresenting the victim
BerryButcher
imgur loves their children that "look" like adults, trust me, next time someone posts "young hot girls" just post a comment questioning her age and you will get obliterated.
DeepThought42
Swiggy1957
Just gonna leave this link here . . . https://equalitynow.org/news/press-releases/new-report-highlights-legal-loopholes-that-permit-child-marriage-in-34-us-states/
needlestosay
Although I agree with this sentiment/true fact 100%, I have seen a million posts like this and zero pundits using any of these phrases. Is this happening somewhere that I just haven’t seen?
titoitoi
I see this brought up again and again and again.
Legally, laws got more and more precise because child rapists would escape justice on a technicality around 'imprecise' legal language. And to also reflect severity. A man who touches a 15 year old on their leg is still a creep that should be jailed, but what about the men who kidnap an even younger child?
News media can only report actual charges, not what people think laws 'should' say, because newsrooms can go bankrupt from defamation.
TyrCarter
The law is the law. If it's set at 18 it's 18. Simple as that. We can go into moral stuff, development and the like but that's a wide, complicated and imprecise topic.
In my country age of consent is 15 but when I look at a 15 year old the only thing that's hard is to figure out how I got this old that she looks like a kid to me
ArkoneAxon
Makes me think of THIS: https://youtu.be/S7M24KrqhBw
Sanivia
louder! so that the media can hear it
dixxienormus
More people need to vote against child exploitation, child marriage, child abuse in religious organisations and schools and workplaces.
RetiredLaserMan
same with "non-consensual sex with a 13 year old woman" - no you fuck, that's rape and she's a child!
ChadMaxxington
18 19 20 or more is underage for 60 yo old man
DeepThought42
DeepThought42
CaldariBob
sHe was VERY mATUre FOr HER AgE.
Onlyhereforthelaughs
"Thanks, it's the trauma."
METROlD
Compared to who, the rapist?
beefsteak73
The people saying that are usually immature for theirs
ThinkThisOut
Laws a written for the most vulnerable. I’m capable of driving comfortably at 125 MPH on the freeway but I drive 77 because the law says 70. That law is written because I’m sharing the road with people less physically able than I am. There are 100% for sure very mature 17th but the law is written for the ones that are not. And for the trolls, yeah I know there’s more than the legality to this but my comment is about the law
impayshunz
'I'm capable of driving comfortably at 125MPH' --- yeah, until you're not. Your driving that fast puts everyone in your vicinity in danger, and accidents can happen to anyone anywhere. Just saying.
yamsonyamsonyams
Everybody knows that some teenagers are mature for their age. Some are more mature than a lot of adults.
However, maturity is a learned behavior, and their brains are still not developed no matter how “mature for their age” they are
So… no. You still can’t.
CaldariBob
Consenting step-sisters are still OK tho, right?
thepicklebucket
Somehow, magically, when the moment of their birth happened exactly 6,574 days ago, that child becomes a woman, and can legally consent to a record-breaking gangbang. But just hours before this time, it would totally be child porn. It doesn't have to make sense, that's just how it is. It's just an absolute threshold, there's absolutely nothing that can alter it. All humans are equally mature on this birthday.
ArkoneAxon
I actually agree - we really shouldn't be obsessing over teenaged girls to this extent. Eighteen or not, they're still teenagers, and teenaged girls are as dumb as teenaged boys.
Seriously, the "just barely 18" porn is quite literally "here you go, guys - she's legally an adult, but mentally and emotionally she's still a kid! Have fun with the destruction of her innocence!" It IS indeed creepy as hell.
CaptainWARLORD
You should never read the comments under such reddit posts. They don't even have to be of the "barely legal" type and it's still creepy as fuck. It's just that they are so much worse under such posts. Some 40, 50, 60 year-old creeps telling girls all kinds of nasty shit. It's sickening.
wandermanspacebot
DrBlackJack
I'm like 89% certain you're just a troll, but on the very off chance you think you're making a good point, it's not that 18 is nessesarily where everyone starts thinking of a person as an adult, it's that we need to set an absolute minimum boundary or, as we've seen, some assholes will do things with children with no limit as to how young they'll go. Most sane people still look down on anyone in their 40s dating somone 18, because, as we get older, even those in their 20s and 30s feel like
damogen
I once heard the "rule" that half your own age +7 is the minimum age that isn't creepy. It checks out, with my personal moral compass.
CaptainWARLORD
The (then) 31 year-old husband (also a father) of a friend of my mum's cheated on her with my (then) 17 year-old ex-classmate. The parents then consented for some reason. They dated for a while but eventually broke up. I don't recall if they also had a child, but the whole thing didn't last long. His marriage and his child's life ruined over some underage pussy. All because he had to exploit the hormonal horniness of a teenager. Make it make sense.
ArkoneAxon
I made a response to them, and... thinking about it, they make a good point. The "barely 18" porn caters to the fantasy of defiling a girl who is mentally/emotionally a child, but legally an adult. Which is creepy as fuck.
Of course, we also recruit 18 year olds into the military, where they can have their innocence destroyed in even more horrific fashion...
thepicklebucket
Society set that limit, numerous times and in different cultures, at different numbers. At this point the 'number' that people seem to want to use eliminates an entire class of people, and results in transition from child to adult occurring overnight. That is EXACTLY what it is saying, to say that a 17 year old female human is NOT a woman.
ID1746
Europe handles it good imo; Yes they have some very low sex allowed ages, but they do come with age-gap laws, because most Europe countries accept teenagers are going to fuck irrelevant of age limits, hence the often low age, but the caveat is the age-gap. A 30 year old bedding a 16 year old is still going to see prison.
DrBlackJack
Yes, society has to set the limit of what the rock bottom bare minimum age somone can be before it goes from being creepy and disturbing to ABSOLUTLY FUCKING NOT! Here and now, that age as been agreed upon to be 18, and ANYONE who says a day before 18 is no different than the day after deserves to have their genitalia removed via a rusty cheese grater, then be force fed the bloody remains...or to be removed from society so they can no longer rape children as a bare minimum.
Whitebeardthepirate
maybe someone needs to let the authorities know of @thepicklebucket 's statements here, maybe run a little check on their devices
IDontKnowWhatToDoAnymoreAndImTired
They're not wrong that that that limit is extremely subjective. In most of the US, it's 16. In Europe, there's nowhere that it's HIGHER than 16.
It's doing a disservice to teenagers to pretend like a 17 year old has the same reasoning and maturity as a 7 year old. That's not excusing abuse of teenagers, it's maintaining honesty. It's also why I prefer using the phrase "young girls" to describe Epstein's victims. It serves as an accurate description without infantilizing teenagers in general.
phovos
Hi, person in the EU here where the minimum age of consent is above 16. But also in the EU, the age of consent is different from the age in which certain acts against children are criminalized. Prostitution, abuse and sexual coercion would be considered crimes against children if they are under the age of 18 in the EU.
IDontKnowWhatToDoAnymoreAndImTired
None of which has anything to do with the standard age or the capability of teenagers to reason.
ID1746
Caveat for Europe age limit, it often comes with Romeo & Juliet laws (age gap laws). Yes 16 is legal, if you're 14/18 (most of the time). Full adult is still 18 in most Europe countries. You bang a 16 year old in Europe as a 30 year old, you still going to see prison in many of them.
IDontKnowWhatToDoAnymoreAndImTired
Not true. Age gap laws are in addition to the standard AOC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent_in_Europe
ID1746
If you read it, you'll check that in the second section, the minimum age of consent in EU is 18 (see international obligations), all lower ones come with caveats, even the 'unrestricted' ones in the EU.
DrBlackJack
children relative to what we've seen and been through. However, as it's at least above the bare minimum, we won't nessesarily want to castrate them as befits anyone choosing to prey on somone below the minum mark, we just shun and/or mock them instead. Still a form of punishment, but less severe because at least they're not a fucking pedophile, like anyone who would try to argue that "if 18 is okay, why is one day earlier any different?"
Swiggy1957
Did you catch my link about states with no minimum age for marriage? Here it is. Basically, 10-year-olds can get married in many states. In the 1990s, states were raising their age of consent. Where I live, the age of consent is 16. Add in the "Romeo and Juliet" exception, and a 15-year-old can consent to sex with an 18-year-old. Or, for that matter, a 12-year-old and a 15-year-old cab have consensual sex.
iusedtodream
You are the reason we have to set clear and finite boundaries.
Swiggy1957
Knowing the law and utilizing it are 2 different things. I merely pointed to where the boundaries are set.
TheJomsborgViking
Can I add fuel to the fire? Ahh 18, I can finally have that nasty gang bang but I won't be able to drink the memories away about this terrible decision for another 3 years.
DrBlackJack
Actually, the drinking age should be a little later, since it's based on the idea that alcohol can prevent a brain from properly developing, and the brain doesn't stop developing until the mid to late 20s... I'd be okay with moving the age of consent to that point to. Let's just say 30 for everything and call it good!
Tulayne
It's been soundly debunked that the brain finishes developing in the mid 20s. The researchers who did the study say the results have been completely misinterpreted. There's been a lot written about it if you're interested.
TheJomsborgViking
Honestly, I agree. But then I am almost 40 and still feel like a kid.