BaronVonUber
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CGI on the left and the real one on the right. Just thought I'd share this comparison that I found again in my phone.
Aug 29, 2017 11:06 PM
BaronVonUber
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CGI on the left and the real one on the right. Just thought I'd share this comparison that I found again in my phone.
onlymadethisaccounttoupvote
What side is the cgi one
cascadianman
So what. The movie was ace. Best Star Wars made to date.
StarkWise
AmotsEinhorc
Leaked footage of upcoming Leia
ReleaseTheBeeees
Let's be honest, traditional acting and effects and stuff are brilliant and clever and we all love them. But this shit is pretty ridiculous
eroso
True. Human-CGI characters just aren't there yet. Stills look great, but motion is off. Supernatural creatures are easier to sell at CGI.
Vaanhalen
It's amazing. Maybe the most professional part of the whole film
eroso
Even if it looked good, it still didn't fool me. I right away noticed it was an animation,and so the immersion broke. Shouldn't had been CGI
looking4mistress
pretty damn neat
sydneythejackal
I can't wait 'till Hollywood just starts exhuming all of my favourite actors/actresses! So cool!
kustomkirk
He just went tanning and saw a stylist...smh
HostelRatintheBackWithaPint
Can someone please link the trailer or source of the pic? I can't find it.
BaronVonUber
Source is on the pic.
HowMuchMethWasInvolvedHere
I thought the eyes were too glossy, I found it distracting.
HistoricalContext
I could tell it was CGI, but only barely. I had to squint.
AcolyteofPizza
And now I'm sad, so thanks for that.
aFleaByte
Rip.
BoozeHound001
That CGI was great. I saw him and took me a second to remember that he died.
MuonNeutrino
Honestly, I don't know why people keep hating on the CGI for this guy, it was really well done.
TalosValcoran
I mean, there are numerous comments right here in these threads that explain exactly why.
sprbwlshuffler
More Cushing for the pushing.
rocketturttle
still frame doesn't show the main issue; Tarkin looked like he was having a grand mal seizure (couldn't help it)
akmarksman
Hard to take him seriously when he wore slippers in most scenes..
DarkSock
Actually that would have been more terrifying to me…
fskn
Well, they based it off of a head casting they had done for Real Genius, but the problem there is with the animation -- still a bit weird.
sleix
You mean "Top Secret" ...
fskn
Yes! Sorry about that!
NinjaSpork
The cgi side is pretty moff, but idk if it's GRAND moff
VelvetElvisAndDogsPlayingPoker
I found it both impressive and creepy looking.
WantDownvotes
Id like to se a leia comparison cose that got so much shit
thoushaltnotpass
Tarkin was much better than Leia. But he got much more screen time too, makes sense they spent the money on him.
rentaldeception
The model is extremely close, that's not the issue. Animating facial expressions and movements to look realistic is the hard part.
jortlet
As preshr said, it's the movement that's the issue - for both Leia and Tarkin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley
eroso
https://csg.tinkercad.com/things/5CsYB5RSSdX/t725.png?rev=906&s=cef011200af9f60e993f052d3ef52e68&t=5542f225
Frostycopper
Damn You got me
KeeleonOhms
Ok so now the CGI one for comparison.
Xephynn
I'm next to me sleeping fiance and i had to stifle some powerful laughter thanks to that link.
eroso
Looks real to me.
WantDownvotes
OMG THANK YOU!!!
littlemissmeow
I like your metal username.
cpcgamer
Peter Cushing lives in Whitstable.
hibsta
I don't think he's lived there since 1994 at least, on account of being dead
Metals4J
But I've seen him on his bicycle... I've seen him buying vegetables...
LonelyBrannigan
Google says he died before I was born
HsuDoNihm
Stop making me feel old!
Cenderic
Yeah I'm from around Whitstable area, we have a pub here called the Peter Cushing, full of pictures and stuff from his movies.
Rommon64
I have seen him on his bicycle.
iwininthemostminorwaypossible
I have seen him buying vegetables
feawen
YUS
Chryphex
Peter Cushing lives in Whitstable
rosebudthesled
Loving that people don't get this.
PapaUbu
But even better that some do...
TheWorldIsATollFreeToilet
I know, they're so missing out on... what was it again?
rosebudthesled
It was a song by the Jellybottys which was famously referenced by Alan Davies on the show QI - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDNuW8g2LNM
picturelord
CGI=less wrinkles.
DoctorVainglorious
CGI = Too much eye glint and no shadow on eye
Kaplar
Fewer
Ohhhlookaunicorneatingasamurai
He's younger in CGI
DeathToSwans
Funny, I see more in the CGI actually. Weird.
PascalCasedUserName
It's because he aged.
iDrinkDrano
It probably helps that the older stuff probably didn't capture as much detail, but to show the same now would look too smooth.
ShawnS4362
It's awesome they can make it photorealistic like that. Only thing I noticed was that his skin was very shiny and darker than needed.
OsirisOsirisOsiris
Photo realistic, yes. Video realistic, no.
slendfung
They got overzealous with the glossy reflection off his eyes. You won't be able to ignore it next time you watch.
eroso
The face-muscle-motion didn't bother you? That looked way off.
mariomario42
Why are people praising this CGI? It was uncanny valley in the first second of seeing him.
ThatSquirrelInTheCorner
Do you know what uncanny valley means
aselleus
Yeah the mouth movements were weird I noticed right away
Sekolah
Exactly
gaaaaalavant
I noticed, because I knew to look. No one else I saw the movie with realized. In the car my gf said "wow that actor hasn't changed a bit"
CherubCow
Yeah lots of people have poor perceptive abilities. Kind of a shame.
pokebug666
Thank you! I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought he looked wrong. It looked.. stuttery, for lack of a better description.
causality
Depends on the person. My sister had no idea he wasn't real.
leonth3duke
Yeah, it was unsettling and took me out of his scenes. Character wasn't really necessary either.
Pengarr
I mean it makes sense to me for him to be there. The *character's* presence didn't feel forced. I just wish they'd done it a different way.
Sekolah
They always add too many minor facial movements, it throws the whole image off
GavinScreaming
I didn't even notice
TehSeksyManz
Anybody who pays attention to any kind of Animation would notice, I think. I know I did.
IAMGR00T
You gotta try in order to get better. I'm amazed we can even do this as well as we can. Imagine this when Ep I came out. I liked it.
mariomario42
CGI for the sake of CGI is bad, like Ep I. There were so many other options available, but they decided to have a minute of pure CGI
eroso
Good CGI, but still a shitty decision to do the character with CGI. It broke the immersion and reminded me that this is fake.
mariomario42
That's a good way to put it
theboned1
Cgi skin is too shiny, eyes were too shiny, too much detail definition, and lips weren't shiny enough. It looked bad.
pronoun
It looked amazing for cgi and actually would've been passable if they didn't use it that much.
underwearwolves
Agree. Overused.
Kaysmira
They could have artfully limited the amount of time we saw his face directly, maybe tossed in some reflections--we expect distortion in that
scatter
The movement was the biggest giveaway, imo.
causality
Just a little too smooth, yeah. Not enough momentum.
Kaysmira
I felt the same but I read they painted this face over a real actor's face. My brain was screaming "corpse puppet" the whole time.
mydadcoulddoanything
Too bad they botched the Carrie Fisher CGI...
JamesBluntThatSmartassCunt
They both sucked. I don't see why anyone thinks either is better than the other.
chickenwomanduckthing
Let's see you model, animate, texture and composite a human better than that.
BaronVonUber
Sad but true.
OldGreggsBloodyMangina
Honestly, I thought the Leia CGI was great, but Tarkin looked cartoonish.
Bulk101
I still son't see what's wrong with it. The only difference is the lack of make-up which Leia had in ep4.
ForMyOwnAmusement
booth stood out like dogs balls
pokebug666
That's interesting, b/c IMO they botched the Tarkin CGI (his animation kinda seemed.. stuttery? Hard to describe.) but Leia looked ok to me.
boccs
Same here. Tarkin looked obviously CGI to me while Carrie's looked largely ok.
Hyperbolicsyllabicsesquedalynistic
Me too!
zxms
Same here. Leia looked great. Tarkin looked like a cartoon
damspam
It's the uncanny valley. In another ten years CGI will advance to the point where it won't seem weird at all
ColonelCrabs
Apparently Carrie thought it was good. So good she thought it was something she filmed and had just forgotten about.
OsirisOsirisOsiris
Yeah, but then again she was an alcoholic drug addict mental case, so she'd probably say that about anything. Or just to be nice.
ColonelCrabs
https://www.inverse.com/article/29890-carrie-fisher-cgi-rogue-one
TheSecondPiewackit
Betting that it wasn't any worse, people just have Carrie Fisher committed to memory better...
FirstAidPoetry
Leia looked like a live anime character. Way too big eyes.
TheSecondPiewackit
She looked exactly the same to me.
sparkydeltorro
This. She had just passed away. Also, an older face is probably easier to accept because of all the detail.
MesserAuditore
At least that cameo was quick. Tarkin's being bad would've ruined half the movie.
mydadcoulddoanything
Point
eroso
Even if it was a HQ 3D model, it broke the immersion. Therefore is was bad for me. I was constantly thinking "I'm looking at an animation".
OsirisOsirisOsiris
Yeah. Close, but not out of the valley yet.
ToasterBaths
What would you have preferred? Resurrection?
eroso
Lookalike actor.
quary80
Yes.
JessieJanson
If you cant tell visually if its fake, then any hangups you have about it is on you and not on the movie. Someone else or you could have 1/2
eroso
Yeah I wouldn't complain if I couldn't. Now it bothered every time I saw the actor.
JessieJanson
easily complained "i know its a lookalike" "why cant they show his face and only have the voice?" "i know its not really in space" 2/3
eroso
Especially when the actor is dead, I don't think anyone would complain. GoT swapped actors all the time. Very little amount of complaints.
JessieJanson
This is as good as it gets.