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Xeddius
A
WaterUnderTheRocketAppliances
Fuck it, I'll go for C
Bonesy84
Oh no, this isn’t supposed to be fun. You get back here
thri1
An another decade, this will no longer be legible. Which is a feat in itself for digital text.
HelpTheWretched
I like to play "guess how many generations of JPEG compression" with these things.
sodalis
My question is always, "How many unwanted kids have you adopted?" If the answer is zero then WHO THE FUCK CARES WHAT YOU THINK?
thisiscatman
Am I the only one who pieced together that YOU start the fire? "You're in a fertility clinic. Why isn't important" That's code for "BURN IT"
KirsiKitten
Tried this argument with my mom and she would only INSIST on C. Refusing to accept it not being an option. Refuses to accept the premise.
INeverWaitForIt
Well, we at least know that if the person is a Republican, they're not stopping to help either one.
Sm9yCg
A. There is not even a reason to consider B
slack3rdav3
C, run out and save yourself.
JackingMeHoff
The anti-abortion GOPers will always pick B then celebrate that they saved 1000 lives. Hey, an embryo on a Petri dish is not a living thing.
samanthadlcruz
forget that... a 5 year old can run on his own. i'm saving my beer
IcouldntfindmymedsthismorningsoItookyours
Everybody would pick the child. Nobody would grab the goo.
MikeTheScientist
iRobot saved Will Smith not Sarah…
potatoardvarkhybrid
either way you have a tasty snack for later....
BlackCatCasper
Bonesy84
I talked with someone who grabbed the goo, and I said it was monstrous to not save the child, they didn’t care, they knew the game they
Bonesy84
We’re playing.
Tuama
But the goo might cure the cancer in their future /s
TrueNorthernLights
I mean....you're not wrong....but still you grab the living breathing child over the goo any day.
Tuama
Yes, I know, and I would. That's why the indication of sarcasm.
Codecomp
Will they pay me a reward for the bravery of saving that poor poor innocent vat of valuable embryos?
nicolaisheen
I might get downvoted for this but even Ben shapiro said he would grab the child and said something about even the Bible agreeing with that
nicolaisheen
But there was an argument that if you had a hard time having kids and the goo was the only possible chance of you having a kid then fine
IcouldntfindmymedsthismorningsoItookyours
Everyone faced with the situation would choose grab the child. Not one person would go for the box full of inanimate objects.
ArbitraryMorte
I would in fact choose to save the thousand over the one. It's a fertility clinic, those thousand are already someone's child.
ArbitraryMorte
I would rather not watch those desperate women who already love those tubes go through the torture of losing another child.
IcouldntfindmymedsthismorningsoItookyours
Yea…sure. Come back to us when reality sets in. A screaming child or a box of vials. Nobody is that naive to believe they are the same.
KiwiGameDev
Anti-abortion people talk about foetuses like companies talk about profit losses. Theoretical/potential seems to be the same as the actual
Rink257
Save the kid. The emrios dont have a terrified parent running around looking for them
executivedisfunction
If you knew enough about fire you save both. Good air at the floor much longer than good air at mouth height. Grab both, crawl to safety.
powerrangerpl
xanifer
Can I just leave? I don't want more responsibility
peterbozeman
A. (duh)
awkwardbeautiful
If they choose A they are in fact saying that a born ( live) person is more important than the potential lives of fertilized embryos. This/
awkwardbeautiful
2/ is something they won’t actually say because that would mean the mothers life is more important than the embryo inside her by default
awkwardbeautiful
3/ because she is ‘alive’ and it is not.
APuffOfAirTicklingYourNose
eNjOy WiTh PiXeLs AnD a LiNk
https://twitter.com/stealthygeek/status/920086366540718081
Snausagebort
This guy is a horrible person fyi.
UnderAttachedGirlfriend
Did you just assume @mOcKiNgSpOnGe gender? What makes them "horrible".
Snausagebort
Meant Patrick Tomlinson, the tweet author. Although the Imgurian might suck too. Goddamn Imgurians ruining everything!
enderite
AisforApple
Shoutrr
you have the absolutely perfect example of this at the bottom of this post.
TOOTSIEBUNS
I thought today was one of those days i rly needed my reading glasses on xD
dmorulez
HaloArchitect
What's this from?
dmorulez
I believe stranger things.
SedatedSl0th
Disappointed it wasn’t the Jack Black version.
ThrowAwayAcct0000
I think life begins at conception, but its not human life. Its just life until its born, then its a human life.
GadenKerensky
A bit more complex than that. Most doctors agree that abortions shouldn't be permitted after a certain point except in dire circumstances. >
GadenKerensky
Usually, this point is when cognitive function is likely. Also, typically, by this point the mother is well aware of her pregnancy and has >
GadenKerensky
decided to carry the child to term. There is quite a gap of time between this point any the earliest signs of pregnancy, so a decision can >
GadenKerensky
and usually is made in this time. Otherwise, before this point, the fetus is not really 'alive'.
ThrowAwayAcct0000
Sure. That's fine, but that's between a woman and her doctor. The state shouldn't have a say on it.
Thephedora
The answer is A
TeDmund
Sorry but not gonna logic people outa a position they didn't logic themselves into
ChokingApples
Now… would I gain the youth and strength of the 1000 embryos if I injected them? Cause… that changes things.
GreaseMonkeyOfLove
The house is on fire, do you save the carton of eggs in the fridge, or your living pet chicken?
AbstractArtemis
There are a few problems with this analogy lol. Why is your chicken in the house? And why do you keep fertilized eggs in the fridge?
Dalael
Theyll create option C) Die blocking the door to prevent anyone else from saving either.
YouMagnificentBastard
There's the very republican answer - You could just save yourself....I mean, it's not your kid...or your embryos.
saimaaringedseal
Trumpists would also need to know the race of the kid and the embryos in question.
ThrowAwayAcct0000
Oh, shit!
StiinkySkunk
Does the kid have healthcare?
YouMagnificentBastard
Probably doesn't even have a job...
bippityboppitybuttsex
This is like the opposite of a trolley problem...
SacrificialClam
Except there, they were all living, breathing humans and your attachment was familial. Here, one breaths and the others are frozen
JenniferRossing
That’s the point
AlienSigma11
It's just the trolley problem.
MidnightTacoTruck
You mean a trolley solution?
TyrTheTired
How so? To me it sounds very similar to the trolley problem, the only difference being there's no default option for inaction.
myotheralt
Well, there is a third option of not saving either and getting out of the building yourself.
bippityboppitybuttsex
Sure there is, everyone dies....
imeanYUUUGE
So, win win win?
FAAAAAAAAAACK
A. And always A..... as someone who has made this choice twice.
FAAAAAAAAAACK
and I thought I was answering to the Gen Context message of the post? literally, my parents are firefighters and I'm not an arsonist wtf 1/2
FAAAAAAAAAACK
do you want me to say the context out loud? I've had 2 abortions.
FAAAAAAAAAACK
For the people answering me. (CAN) Chose twice, how dare anyone else tell me what to do with my body. You want the pain? have it.
Fairemont
Being in this particular situation once is unlikely, but twice!? Something suspicious is going on.
flyinghamstick
...In real life or as in you answered this hypothetical twice? Seems like a very specific thing to happen in person.
TheSwedishMoose
If they had a nickel for every time that happened, they'd have two nickels- which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.
ThisGuyHere
"This is the second fire in a fertility clinic where you've saved a 5 year old... This better not be beginning of some fucked up hobby."
BDD85
I mean.. it's not a lot, but it's werid that it happened twice.
FAAAAAAAAAACK
hypothetical for the specific situation... realistic for the real life moral obligation choice
Shoutrr
it's a thing that can happen pretty often if you work as a firefighter or as an arsonist
msawers
Arsonist at the bring your children to work day at the in vitro clinic. Sets building on fire. Breathily in mic “Do you wanna play a game?”
thedtp
A, always and every time.
msawers
But what if the embryos are all from your seed?
thedtp
Still A, always and every time.
msawers
But what if Jesus came down from heaven and said that the child was the anti-Christ?
PirateRubberDuck
Still A.
ImtheYeti
100%
GadenKerensky
"PS. I'd let the statue of liberty burn to save a pigeon."
smallfrie32
Spoilers for The Eternals ->
smallfrie32
That’s why I didn’t understand this whole fight. “Let all humans die for the POTENTIAL of a lot of life.” Losing the potential life doesn’t
smallfrie32
Really lose anything given
KoRplussomeletters
The case of frozen embryos doesn't need to breathe, and there's a decent chance the fire is tackled before the case is compromised.
KoRplussomeletters
The child (and indeed any air-breathing creature) however will quickly die even if they don't burn.
jlurosa
My brain answered this in 0,0001 seconds
chrisjohnson76
Yeah, I don't know. I don't really like kids
MissIWasntItching
Agreed. Never trade LIFE for POTENTIAL LIFE.
Cangurina
Unless It's the last Space Ark Colonization Ship to an Alien World you mean. Cause they DO exactly that in movies.
Valkyr1987
Obviously in an ark scenario it's reversed to a normal life scenario
MissIWasntItching
I mean, if your mission is to risk your crew to try to establish life, then sure. But this is our darkest timeline dystopia, not sci-fi
Cangurina
You know, it's getting fucking harder to tell every day now. Republicans have to be Lizard People or fucking something
TalanRhodes
KillingTlme
What if the kid is a known piece of shit and one of those Embryos is from your dead wife?
thedtp
Still A, every single time.
PirateRubberDuck
A. Always A.
OneTheory
What if the 5 year old is kind of a jerk?
BlackCatCasper
Save him and claim the cash reward and your mom will see you on the news
PTKrieg
All 5 year olds are jerks. They live, they could grow out of it. They die, the hospital gets haunted by a tiny jerk ghost.
PapiChuloNumeroUno
Its a 5 year old, there is no "what if".
Ripplingtwinkie
It’s not actually about children to them at all. It’s about projecting their flavor of morality on everyone else.
NotABadLookingNarcissist
It’s an even split of “my religion says I can’t do this, so you can’t either” and “women shouldn’t have sexual liberty”. Both are backwards.
ThrowAwayAcct0000
Its short-sighted and evil.
SteveD31415
Not quite. It's about stripping the Federal government of power.
Froggie243
By inserting the state government directly into my uterus?
SteveD31415
No, by keeping the federal government powerless to intervene.
wmzer0mw1
no its not.
hashomerachianochi
I thought it was about punishing women for having sex
TrueNorthernLights
More specifically, not having sex with THEM. Because they're against abortions in married women, too.
aintnothinbutahounddog28
That would be the particular flavor of their morality that was being referred to, yes
Potatomanbynight
As someone who is "anti abortion" I find it hard to believe they've NEVER had an answer. Clearly the grown child is the one you save. >
OwenAllen
When you pick one child over a thousand embryos, you show us that you don't believe embryos are morally equivalent to children.
OwenAllen
And you show us that it's not even close. You prove that you think a child is more than a thousand times as morally important as an embryo.
Potatomanbynight
Correct. Like saving someone on life support over a young child would be absurd. Still not invalidating worth or life though.
Potatomanbynight
The fallacy here is trying to pretend that somehow proves a human embryo isn't a human life. If in that same scenario there was a child or >
Potatomanbynight
An elderly person, or honestly any other non young child human, the young child human wins. Doesn't mean the others are worthless.
AbstractArtemis
But the child isn't the youngest human in this scenario if your belief is the embryos are human too. So now what's the excuse?
Potatomanbynight
An embryo isn't a toddler. An embryo is an embryo. And if you wanna get granular, those embryos wouldn't survive you running outside. >
Potatomanbynight
The point here is the scenario does not invalidate one as a human life.
AbstractArtemis
And saving 1000 baby lives would still be better than saving 1 child. So why would you pick the child?
AbstractArtemis
The "fallacy" you think that's there isn't. This is showing the flaw in believing embryos are equal to an actual baby. If you truly believe