I don't want to live in a society where anyone needs a romantic partner to a point where they're trapped in a relationship-gone-sour for lack of other survival options. This shouldn't be happening in a developed country.
Marriage is only a need when one of the partners is essentially a sold off slave who is financially shackled to the other. Being a decent enough human for your partner to WANT to be with you is where it's at.
NSFW I'm curious to know the wider context for this response. Lots of people here trying to psychologically deconstruct this and overlooking the possibility it was just a joke.
I think he has only made really good movies while married to women who knew how to make movies, too. I have this half assed theory that he needs someone he respects and who knows movies to stop his most dumb and terrible ideas.
Marriage is an out-dated custom. Be with the person you want to be with and, when one of you outgrows or no longer enjoys the other's company, part ways amicably.
Perhaps humans are serially monogamous by nature, and it is social pressure which causes marriage to be common. One partner for life is not a good strategy, as a partner may have genetic defects.
“James Cameron doesn’t do what James Cameron does for James Cameron. James Cameron does what James Cameron does because James Cameron IS James Cameron.” - James Cameron (South Park - Season 16, Episode 9 “Raising the Bar”)
His name is James, James Cameron The bravest pioneer No budget too steep, no sea too deep Who's that? It's him, James Cameron James, James Cameron explorer of the sea With a dying thirst to be the first Could it be? Yeah that's him! James Cameron
If someone doesn't need you then they would have to WANT you... So you need to have qualities that make you enjoyable to be around. Is that... Not ideal for some people?
Is it a problem that he was ‘married’ 5 times? That’s just 5 relationships that also got government sponsorship. They ended. If you was just ‘dating’ those women for the same amount of time, no one would care.
Yikes... of all the red flags this one is the #FF0000-est of them. A partner should want to stay with you because of you, this sounds like he's humble-bragging while reframing himself as the victim.
That goes for any relationship. People can change their minds and you don’t control someone else’s actions or choices. There is no 100% certainty. That goes for anything in life, really.
Look, I love his movies ... but, didn't he cheat on at LEAST 2 of them? That's a 40% infidelity rate. I don't think the "strong independent woman" is the problem.
Yeah, but that would've been poorly received, and he is still reliant on fans to watch his movies. In a lot of ways, entertainers have to act like politicians to remain relevant
Why should a woman (or a man for that matter) NEED a partner at all? Shouldn't mutual attraction, respect, and emotional attachment be sufficient? In fact, those are what I was always taught were the REASONS you decided to spend your lives together and maybe raise a family... together. But my dad was a little ahead of his time in some ways, like how he instructed his sons with regard to women, and what he modelled for us in his marriage to mom.
Cheap Trick has a song "I want you to want me", and some people are just that way, they don't feel loved or appreciated unless they feel the person needs them and will be desperate or inconsolable without them.
Well, and I think we really are animals that need others. Yes a lot of people need external validation... That's kind of the human, or at least societal, condition. Just my opinion, I'm no smarter than anyone else here...
I don't disagree that as a species, as human souls, we need others in some way, some more than others, but like the song, it can be taken to an unhealthy level, like in codependent relationships, etc.
Wanting to be wanted and needing to be needed are two different things. (Of course, Cheap Trick did express interest in both, so take from that what you will)
I once started watching a documentary of his about undersea exploration. Had to turn it off as I found him intolerable. His personality is that of a spoiled rich kid having a temper tantrum.
Yeah, every time the other does something that annoys you, ask yourself, 'is this worth ending the marriage over' if the answer is yes, then go for it. Otherwise, leave it alone.... cuz most of the fights i see are over petty bullshit instead of stuff that matters.
Right, but he is the common denominator in all of those failed relationships... he should admit that he is the reason those marriages failed, not them.
It's not always that simple. If someone gets abused by 3 different partners, it's not their fault they're getting abused, right? No clue about him as a person, but some people just have terrible judgment when it comes to finding partners. He may be a bad husband, he may go for incompatible people, I don't know his deal to be able to say.
I think we're going to disagree on this one. The statement by itself isn't blaming the women. I'm sure there was more in the interview where he said something else, but im referring only to the single sentence posted. I just don't read that as placing blame on the women. Its not defending him, just commenting on the actual statement.
Yeah, you don't have to be gay to enjoy your p-spot.
Also, I am not not gay, I am just more straight.... I am the 'if you put Brad Pitt from Fight Club in front of me, I ain't saying no' kind of straight.
Same, got me one of those wold "thinking women", been 20 years and we are closer than ever. The secret: just treat them like a people, ita literally all they want.
Mine wants to cuddle even when it's 42C (okay she's filipina, this explains almost all of her funny habits like biting my shoulder cause she loves me lol).
Maybe he would have less divorces if he was in offically open marriages, but ai suspect he does like the idea of them sleeping around, only him sleeping around.
NotAllowedToArgueUnlessYouPay
I'm attracted to bad-asses and hearts of gold. Took me over 30 years to find both in one person.
FiftyShadesOfTiramisu
I don't want to live in a society where anyone needs a romantic partner to a point where they're trapped in a relationship-gone-sour for lack of other survival options. This shouldn't be happening in a developed country.
relsky
"they inherently don't need you, and if you aren't a good husband they sure as hell don't want you." FTFY James.
jridley
Viewing marriage as something that stays together only because your partner needs you, rather than that they want to be with you, is certainly a view.
SJBSavageInk
Marriage is only a need when one of the partners is essentially a sold off slave who is financially shackled to the other. Being a decent enough human for your partner to WANT to be with you is where it's at.
Copperbrat
Very revealing about his thoughts on relationships. If he thinks women are leaving him because they "don't need him", he's doing it wrong.
Fanner50
Depends on what he wants.
He may be doing it right.
IMarkEverythingISayAsNSFWBecauseModsDontKnowWhatMatureMeans
NSFW I'm curious to know the wider context for this response. Lots of people here trying to psychologically deconstruct this and overlooking the possibility it was just a joke.
DWolf
I don't get it then.
gayvillian
His first wife basically got all his early movies done.
jekath
I think he has only made really good movies while married to women who knew how to make movies, too. I have this half assed theory that he needs someone he respects and who knows movies to stop his most dumb and terrible ideas.
HedonismBot3000
Marriage is an out-dated custom. Be with the person you want to be with and, when one of you outgrows or no longer enjoys the other's company, part ways amicably.
scootwhoman
Perhaps humans are serially monogamous by nature, and it is social pressure which causes marriage to be common. One partner for life is not a good strategy, as a partner may have genetic defects.
SCP1504
“James Cameron doesn’t do what James Cameron does for James Cameron. James Cameron does what James Cameron does because James Cameron IS James Cameron.” - James Cameron (South Park - Season 16, Episode 9 “Raising the Bar”)
aerodynamit3
His name is James, James Cameron
The bravest pioneer
No budget too steep, no sea too deep
Who's that?
It's him, James Cameron
James, James Cameron explorer of the sea
With a dying thirst to be the first
Could it be? Yeah that's him!
James Cameron
PanNonOpticon
He has some caching up to do te reach Zsa Zsa Gabor with 9 marriages.
Maulbert
Cameron is visionary filmmaker.
He's also a notorious asshole.
Saxytimes
If someone doesn't need you then they would have to WANT you... So you need to have qualities that make you enjoyable to be around. Is that... Not ideal for some people?
rbudrick
From all accounts Ive heard of him, he's a visionary, but also a huge asshole.
bendistraw
Pro-tip… don’t get into relationships to feel needed.
eastend666
Nailed it.
TheFastpaws
Sounds like he was a trash husband.
mormonbatman
I don't think the women were the problem, for this 5x divorcee.
ThatQuietlySmirking
Doesn't help that he's got an ego the size of Rhode Island.
brassmule
The James Cameron running joke was one of the best things about the tv show Future Man.
RoncoFoodDehydrator
Is it a problem that he was ‘married’ 5 times? That’s just 5 relationships that also got government sponsorship. They ended. If you was just ‘dating’ those women for the same amount of time, no one would care.
ThatOtherGirlYouKnow
Yikes... of all the red flags this one is the #FF0000-est of them. A partner should want to stay with you because of you, this sounds like he's humble-bragging while reframing himself as the victim.
Mxlespxles
As someone who shares that taste, yeah. You kinda have to go in knowing that she may change her mind.
pixelandpoe
That goes for any relationship. People can change their minds and you don’t control someone else’s actions or choices. There is no 100% certainty. That goes for anything in life, really.
MosquitoHawker
This. I like women that know what they want.
Down side: that may eventually not include you.
It’s my good fortune that most of us have remained friends.
Mxlespxles
Yep. And they're some of the most brilliant, passionate and driven people I've ever known, so I count myself lucky they're still friends.
MosquitoHawker
Preach. Just because I didn’t hit the mark doesn’t mean for even a second they shouldn’t go be their best selves.
JaXm
Look, I love his movies ... but, didn't he cheat on at LEAST 2 of them? That's a 40% infidelity rate. I don't think the "strong independent woman" is the problem.
RexRexroththe1st
That's a little self-serving James. That's a straw man dressed as a humble brag with a side order of self-victimization.
Jmarie453
Exactly, the only common denominator in this equation is HIM.
MeisterKleister
I mean, it's nobody's business anyway, so why the heck should he give a 100% honest to that?
RexRexroththe1st
It is nobody's business, Which would have been the best answer to the question.
threepotatoesinatrenchcoat
Yeah, but that would've been poorly received, and he is still reliant on fans to watch his movies. In a lot of ways, entertainers have to act like politicians to remain relevant
RexRexroththe1st
Dude, I don't care about the perceived PR problems of a fucking almost billionaire. He hasn't been reliant on fans since Avatar 1.
ToSisPoS
Well, it’s a better take than “they was crazy“ that the serial date rapist that I knew in College used to say after each date.
Stanistani
Did you get a chance to light his pants on fire? Just for the screaming?
ToSisPoS
I can only hope his brief dalliance with being cute and relevant evaporated around 2001.
sundaymondayhippyday
Oh creepy as heck!
I hope he burned in jail?
oldguyexlurker
Why should a woman (or a man for that matter) NEED a partner at all? Shouldn't mutual attraction, respect, and emotional attachment be sufficient? In fact, those are what I was always taught were the REASONS you decided to spend your lives together and maybe raise a family... together. But my dad was a little ahead of his time in some ways, like how he instructed his sons with regard to women, and what he modelled for us in his marriage to mom.
Imapseudonym
He didn't say that they should. He said he was attracted to the ones that didn't need a partner.
Penguinsandbroadswords
Cheap Trick has a song "I want you to want me", and some people are just that way, they don't feel loved or appreciated unless they feel the person needs them and will be desperate or inconsolable without them.
GloveFullaVaseline
Well, and I think we really are animals that need others. Yes a lot of people need external validation... That's kind of the human, or at least societal, condition. Just my opinion, I'm no smarter than anyone else here...
Penguinsandbroadswords
I don't disagree that as a species, as human souls, we need others in some way, some more than others, but like the song, it can be taken to an unhealthy level, like in codependent relationships, etc.
GloveFullaVaseline
Well of course, that's always the other side of what we are talking about, or ONE OF the other sides...
MsHissyPants
Wanting to be wanted and needing to be needed are two different things. (Of course, Cheap Trick did express interest in both, so take from that what you will)
bippityboppitybuttsex
I am married to a strong independent woman... been married once and with her for nearly 40 years...
Maybe he just kind of sucks as a husband?
IloveHockey
or maybe shes not as independent as you think, or maybe youre a total pushover.
bippityboppitybuttsex
Or maybe I don't cheat on my wife the way Cameron has to every one of those five women.
GimcrackGewgaw
He's attracted to strong independent women but not good at being married to them. Maybe he should try marrying a different kind of woman.
Yasashii93
I’d bet on it.
I once started watching a documentary of his about undersea exploration. Had to turn it off as I found him intolerable. His personality is that of a spoiled rich kid having a temper tantrum.
SkamanSam
20 years here. I think he just sucks as a partner.
WholeWheatBunnyHugger
Me and wifey just passed 25 years here, any advice for a young whippersnapper?
bippityboppitybuttsex
Yeah, every time the other does something that annoys you, ask yourself, 'is this worth ending the marriage over' if the answer is yes, then go for it. Otherwise, leave it alone.... cuz most of the fights i see are over petty bullshit instead of stuff that matters.
hyptosis
thatsbadmmkay
It kinda just sounded like a funny way to show he still admires them for who they are even though it didnt work out.
bippityboppitybuttsex
Right, but he is the common denominator in all of those failed relationships... he should admit that he is the reason those marriages failed, not them.
Leetri
It's not always that simple. If someone gets abused by 3 different partners, it's not their fault they're getting abused, right?
No clue about him as a person, but some people just have terrible judgment when it comes to finding partners. He may be a bad husband, he may go for incompatible people, I don't know his deal to be able to say.
bippityboppitybuttsex
OK, he has admitted he cheated on every single one of those five wives and that is why the marriages ended. He is the problem.
Mexrose75
Exactly
Imapseudonym
He kind of said that when he said "They don't need you."
bippityboppitybuttsex
I mean, also, his constant cheating on all of them didn't work to sustain the marriage
Imapseudonym
Not denying that at all. Just saying that he's covering not being a good husband without going into specifics during that on le sentence.
bippityboppitybuttsex
Right, but the reality is is that HE was the reason those marriages failed and his statement is trying to deflect it and blame the women.
Imapseudonym
I think we're going to disagree on this one. The statement by itself isn't blaming the women. I'm sure there was more in the interview where he said something else, but im referring only to the single sentence posted. I just don't read that as placing blame on the women. Its not defending him, just commenting on the actual statement.
Banzai51
That's kinda what he's saying.
bippityboppitybuttsex
No, he is generalizing and saying they don't need 'You' when he means they don't need him.
Bebsey
And your wife never once needed James Cameron, either.
akodorokku
Yeah Cameron's kind of a cunt.
ecglover
Same here, 43 years, same woman!
FraudulentPepsi
For a decade I have thought you were gay
bippityboppitybuttsex
Why?
FraudulentPepsi
Something in the name I suppose
ThatOtherGirlYouKnow
The straights can have a little butt sex sometimes, as a treat.
sundaymondayhippyday
Same-
it just made Bippiry-Boppity-ButtSex-SENSE!
bippityboppitybuttsex
Yeah, you don't have to be gay to enjoy your p-spot.
Also, I am not not gay, I am just more straight.... I am the 'if you put Brad Pitt from Fight Club in front of me, I ain't saying no' kind of straight.
Cats2cats
He neglected to state that at least one of his wives found out from the press that they were divorcing.
thisisnotfineffs
Bobbutnotthatbob
I gasped out loud when I read this. Damn, dude.
mymustachecallstheshots
Same, got me one of those wold "thinking women", been 20 years and we are closer than ever. The secret: just treat them like a people, ita literally all they want.
BananaForScaIe
Well, and mine also wants me to not ask where things are after she rearranges the apartment for the 12th time that month. ;)
mymustachecallstheshots
Mine also has ADHD. 😅
BananaForScaIe
Mine wants to cuddle even when it's 42C (okay she's filipina, this explains almost all of her funny habits like biting my shoulder cause she loves me lol).
sundaymondayhippyday
You are literally a banana !
GloveFullaVaseline
And they love you for it! It's the most amazing thing!
NairouTryyshokk
Or, and hear me out, the strong intependent woman keeps you as a cute little pet...
hyptosis
i man can dream
BeachsideBarghest
I'm listening...
Dishlexic
He cheated on all of them! Hope this helps
RuBisCO1
Maybe he would have less divorces if he was in offically open marriages, but ai suspect he does like the idea of them sleeping around, only him sleeping around.
SayonaraSally
If this was true why wouldn't he have mentioned it? /s
CorvidPrime
Both can be true…
Keru
I dunno, after 5 of them ditched him, I think we can put the scale heavier on his side.
lovingspace
Both of you could be right.
bippityboppitybuttsex
"You ran into an asshole all day..."
CorvidPrime
Correct.
A strong independent woman doesn’t need him: She can stay with him or leave him.
His statement is true.
5 of then have left him: He’s a bad husband.
The responding statement is true.
Ergo: Both can be true.
Bigblunt83
Fucking perfect response