Trump issued an unconstitutional executive order to shut down mail-in voting nationwide after he and his whole family used it, basically giving himself the right to choose who can use it – not the States
I guess the real question here is, WHY would we pay tax then? Shouldn't blue states be finding a way to protect their citizens who choose not to pay? This is clearly unconstitutional and if the executive won't play by the rules the rest of us shouldn't
Might as well toss that right in the inferno he's turned this country into. Dipshit still thinks just b/c he says it, it's true. Let the blowback continue to intensify.
It is interesting that they are creating a list of "approved voters," I guess it is a way to knock Dems off in just the right numbers to stay in power.
Not sure my homestate has the infrastructure outside of the city to not vote by mail. Its basically the default for everyone. I would've had to specifically request not to vote by mail when signing up for my license. Its unfortunate but the majority of the blue population lives within 15 minutes of a polling center, the majority of the red do not.
You see though he is president and was busy with president business so it's ok that he voted by mail. Now melanoma and barron whom also voted by mail even though they don't have president business that keeps them busy.
It was never, EVER about states' rights unless those states agreed with them. Any disagreement, and it's an instant "DADDY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MAKE THEM STOOOPPPP!"
The Confederacy's "states rights" got super fucking mad that northern states expressed that it was their states' right to not return runaway slaves to the southern slavers. Oh, and the Confederate constitution explicitly made it so that no Confederate state would be allowed to ban slavery.
They'll throw everything they have at the wall to cheat the midterms, they know that if they lose they're toast. So every single cheating tactic will be used.
#1 Imagine if a Dem Administration decided - in kind - to defund all the red states over an issue? Most of the Red States heavily rely on federal assistance because the are so "independent". Maybe the issue should be paying to fix all the sh!t MAGA destroyed.
Everyone is trying to figure out how to “stop” this. Defund the states. Then, there is no reason for the states to send tax dollars to the federal level. For the states he wants to defund, they are also largely the ones supporting red states. It’d be the strait of Hormuz for him again.
He sounds bored out of his mind and couldn't care less about this whole thing, he just was told that it will probably be challenged but doesn't remember how etc. etc.
My state has always done mail in ballots as its primary form of voting ever since I could first vote. I work 1 block from town hall and could vote in person if I wanted. I will happily refuse to vote in person just to add to the victim tally for lawsuits against the Fed.
Cut the snide remarks, would ya? We are just talking here. I wasn't bashing you in any way. But anyway, I will "try again". Now I don 't know the exact grammatical term for the tense you used ( present participle maybe?), but "will...refuse" is most commonly used as an expression of intent, so I don't find it far fetched to think that was what you meant. And are there any other way to vote, if he succeeds in blocking mail-in ballots? Serious question, because where I live, there is not.
Probably not. The Senate and House are both well aware that the Courts are doing it very well without them, and provide the service at no risk to them or their future campaigns.
Anyone? Yeah, D's have been from the start pretty much. But enough people decided to "punish" the Democrat party for not being against the attacks in Gaza /enough/ by letting R's win everything and none of them will step out of line for fear of their blackmail being released.
Nope. Republicans won't for obvious reasons, Democrats are still aimlessly playing by the rules, and ... oh wait y'all got that 2 party system so that's it really. Welcome to the fascist dictatorship of Amerikkkastan I guess...
In governments like this, the "Fuck off!" is traditionally conveyed kinetically, and not by a politician. The politicians are hand-selected for spinelessness, expect nothing from them and they'll still disappoint.
They did. Senate *Republicans* rejected the SAVE Act (which was the legislative version of this) so now he's desperately trying an illegal hail Mary that won't survive the week in court. This EO means nothing, because it has no legal basis; EOs cannot make law, they can only call for action within law. Most of his EOs are just showy press conferences that do little or nothing at all.
Yeah I mean there's plenty of democrats but especially with the DINOs they're just short of the number needed. But even GOP senators have told him to fuck off a few times. This isn't their fight though, he's acting completely against constitutional law which puts him in Judicial branch territory with this one.
I mean, the states certainly will, and already have.
Eo’s aren’t laws, but this isn’t really something laws can do either, to call it laughably unconstitutional is an understatement. States run elections, the federal government has zero say in how they are run.
Generally, but that won’t work here because they don’t actually have any control over the relevant agencies. The states can, will, and in some cases already have, told him to fuck himself and ignored the order
An impeached president can not be removed except by a vote with 2/3 of the senate in favor of removal. So long as more than 1/3 of the Senate is in favor of keeping him, or his term is still going, he can't be removed legally by congress. Vance, however, could go with the 25th, so long as he has most of the cabinet behind him on it.
Dontstopbelever2000ismyfavoritesoap
I guess the real question here is, WHY would we pay tax then? Shouldn't blue states be finding a way to protect their citizens who choose not to pay? This is clearly unconstitutional and if the executive won't play by the rules the rest of us shouldn't
boxbackknitties
Might as well toss that right in the inferno he's turned this country into. Dipshit still thinks just b/c he says it, it's true. Let the blowback continue to intensify.
nimeton0
beaubrent
It is interesting that they are creating a list of "approved voters," I guess it is a way to knock Dems off in just the right numbers to stay in power.
chatawillybilly
Defund states then those states don't pay fed taxes. Two can play the illegal game.
yesdearmetoo
brendino87
Hegseth? Bondi? Fuck you too
All them motherfuckers fuck you
All of yall motherfuckers, fuck you, die slow, motherfucker
Channeling my inner 2pac
SleepyHollowAppleTree
Jarodamus
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myotherusernameisalreadytaken
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Thisisbullshitalready
Dear God, but I fucking hate this racist, bigoted rapist and thief. WHERE THE FUCK IS THE REST OF THE GOVERNMENT?
Ulthirm
Not sure my homestate has the infrastructure outside of the city to not vote by mail. Its basically the default for everyone. I would've had to specifically request not to vote by mail when signing up for my license. Its unfortunate but the majority of the blue population lives within 15 minutes of a polling center, the majority of the red do not.
RubberMonkeys
You see though he is president and was busy with president business so it's ok that he voted by mail. Now melanoma and barron whom also voted by mail even though they don't have president business that keeps them busy.
Daliena06
It was never, EVER about states' rights unless those states agreed with them. Any disagreement, and it's an instant "DADDY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MAKE THEM STOOOPPPP!"
The Confederacy's "states rights" got super fucking mad that northern states expressed that it was their states' right to not return runaway slaves to the southern slavers. Oh, and the Confederate constitution explicitly made it so that no Confederate state would be allowed to ban slavery.
bananaflavoredcandyishorrible
And that lying POS standing behind him!
morninggloryshade777
And minutes later Marc Elias of Democracy Docket sued for this, too.
presswc
I can’t imagine being around that creature all day and being forced to chuckle along with all the dumb fucking shit he says (let alone the smell).
Sebastopol140
They'll throw everything they have at the wall to cheat the midterms, they know that if they lose they're toast. So every single cheating tactic will be used.
mycatsings
Correct, they are as dangerous as a wild cornered animal right now.
BryanTenn
#1 Imagine if a Dem Administration decided - in kind - to defund all the red states over an issue? Most of the Red States heavily rely on federal assistance because the are so "independent". Maybe the issue should be paying to fix all the sh!t MAGA destroyed.
MERGATROYDER
He doesn’t know how they’ll challenge it, because he doesn’t know a fucking thing.
FRIENDisCHUMisBAIT
delightfullyhardenthusiast
This pos is a national embarrassment and the world will be a better place when death finally claims him.
Khanamana324
Republicans as a whole are an embarrassment and the party and its members needs to be scoured from the face of the Earth.
wario37
Everyone is trying to figure out how to “stop” this. Defund the states. Then, there is no reason for the states to send tax dollars to the federal level. For the states he wants to defund, they are also largely the ones supporting red states. It’d be the strait of Hormuz for him again.
keys79
gronzilla
He sounds bored out of his mind and couldn't care less about this whole thing, he just was told that it will probably be challenged but doesn't remember how etc. etc.
wejustdontknow
Executive orders are not laws. They are memos. He's cutting Congress out of the process to see if it sticks. It probably will.
Jarodamus
Nothing else has, just takes time.
whereismymind86
It’s not something Congress has the authority to do either, unless they do so via a constitutional amendment.
wejustdontknow
Right, which involves congress and not a memo from one person.
QuartzPoker
It won't. The states will just ignore it and then sue in court.
RigidGristle
Bundalicious
You spelled Americans wrong.
AreYouABadPerson
No they didn't you dork.
ThatGuyFromJustSouthOfTheMiddleOfNowhere
lordyhalvey
Most of the crap he signs into executive order fails anyway, just like his entire regime.
meowingintensifies
Hopefully his stench covers the republicans and GOP forever, and a republican never gets the office ever again.
Khanamana324
Not before it cause massive amounts of harm.
Apeofdeath
Executive orders are limited to the executive branch, so yeah unconstitutional
Khanamana324
Republicans don’t give a shit. They wipe their ass with that document.
IrrationalNumber
Well, consider it an order to the executive branch to execute anyone voting by mail /s
Mithi
Well, the are not EOs, they are "Führerbefehle"
kurastwolf
My state has always done mail in ballots as its primary form of voting ever since I could first vote. I work 1 block from town hall and could vote in person if I wanted. I will happily refuse to vote in person just to add to the victim tally for lawsuits against the Fed.
TexMexHex
...not voting is exactly.... oh, never mind. We are too far gone to try to reason with folms.
kurastwolf
I did not say "I will not vote.". Try again.
Moecade
That's exactly what he wants you to do.
kurastwolf
I did not say "I will not vote.". Try again
Moecade
Cut the snide remarks, would ya? We are just talking here. I wasn't bashing you in any way. But anyway, I will "try again". Now I don 't know the exact grammatical term for the tense you used ( present participle maybe?), but "will...refuse" is most commonly used as an expression of intent, so I don't find it far fetched to think that was what you meant. And are there any other way to vote, if he succeeds in blocking mail-in ballots? Serious question, because where I live, there is not.
anotherrandomname
Is there a point where our anyone in the legislative branch will stand up and tell him to fuck off???
drduffer
Probably not. The Senate and House are both well aware that the Courts are doing it very well without them, and provide the service at no risk to them or their future campaigns.
eronth
Several have, just not enough.
livingonagiantfireball
Your best option is to kill mike johnson
Jarjarthejedi
Anyone? Yeah, D's have been from the start pretty much. But enough people decided to "punish" the Democrat party for not being against the attacks in Gaza /enough/ by letting R's win everything and none of them will step out of line for fear of their blackmail being released.
magus200342
Nope!
UmmonPrime
nah, they're getting their pockets lined. So unless the gravy train ends, they're going to keep going.
Imalwaysready
Nope and we need to stop pretending there will be or sit around waiting for it to happen.
xeoxion
How about they due their duty to the constitution and exterminate a clear and present danger to the USA
Lead can succeed where the law fails
perlninja
Nope. Republicans won't for obvious reasons, Democrats are still aimlessly playing by the rules, and ... oh wait y'all got that 2 party system so that's it really. Welcome to the fascist dictatorship of Amerikkkastan I guess...
JohnWickdidnothingwrong
In governments like this, the "Fuck off!" is traditionally conveyed kinetically, and not by a politician. The politicians are hand-selected for spinelessness, expect nothing from them and they'll still disappoint.
robingal1
With a swinging baseball bat.
rossimus
They did. Senate *Republicans* rejected the SAVE Act (which was the legislative version of this) so now he's desperately trying an illegal hail Mary that won't survive the week in court. This EO means nothing, because it has no legal basis; EOs cannot make law, they can only call for action within law. Most of his EOs are just showy press conferences that do little or nothing at all.
MakeItBackAlright
Yeah I mean there's plenty of democrats but especially with the DINOs they're just short of the number needed. But even GOP senators have told him to fuck off a few times. This isn't their fight though, he's acting completely against constitutional law which puts him in Judicial branch territory with this one.
ChikaChickaBowWow
It would have happened by now if so.
whereismymind86
I mean, the states certainly will, and already have.
Eo’s aren’t laws, but this isn’t really something laws can do either, to call it laughably unconstitutional is an understatement. States run elections, the federal government has zero say in how they are run.
gtotherizzle
Nope. That's been the plan for as long as I've been alive at least
PutItInNeutral
Not any Republicans. Anyone with a spine got purged from the party years ago.
nation543
Anyone with a spine gets purged, currently.
worm61
And only, like, a quarter of the Democrats
urusername2
Not the Repuglicans. They are too afraid of Him.
LeifHietala
It is LITERALLY what they are there for.
Nephytis
That's what any court ruling against anything he does is and they ignore them and do it anyway.
whereismymind86
Generally, but that won’t work here because they don’t actually have any control over the relevant agencies. The states can, will, and in some cases already have, told him to fuck himself and ignored the order
sadurdaynight
Why? His gop buddies are making bank with insider trading.
mafiacarstarter
Anyone? Yes. That was some time ago.
Enough of them to stop this and remove him? Not so long as the Senate is at least 1/3 behind him.
SnakuPlisskin
Only 1/3?
mafiacarstarter
An impeached president can not be removed except by a vote with 2/3 of the senate in favor of removal.
So long as more than 1/3 of the Senate is in favor of keeping him, or his term is still going, he can't be removed legally by congress.
Vance, however, could go with the 25th, so long as he has most of the cabinet behind him on it.
onlymostofthetime
midterms are going to be interesting, if we have them
mafiacarstarter
If we don't have them, they'll be even more interesting.