Sep 19, 2021 11:49 PM
oldbaldjewishman
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Scary stuff. From nile.red on ig
PiccChicc
More please. Ended too soon.
33WhiskeyTX
If you get burning white phosphorus on you you have to cut it off the skin
ahbrannon1
I had customer who lost both arms from the elbows down picking up a white phosphorous shell & throwing out the side window of a B17 in WWII.
SometimesIFeelLikeAGenius
NileRed is also on YouTube, great stuff. I use some his stuff for my teaching.
OogaOogaMooshka
Reminds me of the tv show M*A*S*H. The docs had to submerge the patients in water because they had shrapnel of white phosphorous in them.
KalleSchnikov
Hey lets throw some of that on humans why dont we
ReSouler
Pickled smoke rocks
Lurkninja
Paige, NOOOOOOO!!!
cheekysheikhy
Fun fact: the Israeli military used white phosphorus missiles against Palestinian civilians.
GiantSquanchy
They were totally just using the white phosphorous to generate smoke, and no other reason at all.
Toster12D3
It's at least more complicated than that https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_phosphorus_munitions free palestine
PineappleIsDeliciousOnPizzaFightMe
The Forbidden Chalk
drmuelr
I don't recommend ingesting regular chalk either... i.e. these things:
Thegreenestthumb9
I love those things for some reason. I have a thing for chalky tasting foods, it's weird.
kimst
Kept in water? but but but H2O. There is some free roaming O in that stuff. A fish told me so. Why is it not kept in another solution?
roguekiller23231
I don't understand how they collect/refine stuff that is so reactive with just the air!?
TheUnstoppableWampas
Put it under nitrogen atmosphere, or argon if it's really nasty.
Jsupes
* So it goes
CanuckleheadChick
How many calories per phosphorus?
confanity
Like... per molecule?
No, per phosphorus. You must have injected at least three marijuanas today or something.
No, no, all my marryjawanas are taken as herbal infusions, lovingly rubbed onto the surface of a steak which is then stolen by crows.
speedywrx
SchizophrenicEuphoria
@OP from NileRed on YT. The full length videos are better https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFhXFikryT4aFcLkLw2LBLA
Nice
FierceAndAdorable
https://www.military.com/history/fastest-medal-of-honor-was-awarded-airman-who-carried-burning-phosphorus-bomb-his-hands.html/amp
IamJACKSventedSPLEEN
Lived to 80 years old
IKR!?! Amazing person
SansAandAnguS
Makes me think of all those poor people who ended up with phossy jaw as a result of working with it to make matches - urggh!
PrincipalVaginaHereNoRelation
Yupurineutah
My father was tasked with helping to remove the remains of 37000 victims of the explosive and phosphor firebombing of Hamburg Germany. ?
CyborgScribe
I think most american firebombs at the time were oil and magnesium but idk what other nations used.
It's something he mentioned. I don't know. But OMG.. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-43546839
RunawaySpoons
My word, that's absolutely horrific.
barbarian818
A classic fun read on scary chemistry: https://corante.com/things-i-wont-work-with/sand-wont-save-you-this-time/
grlwithnoname
Neat OP
carmelkittiekat
HAHA! Beaker is my favorite Muppet!
Me too!
bolson7117
Fox news says it helps with covid
QtheM
In the 1600s, phosphorus was produced by extracting it from 1000s of gallons of urine. The stench from the factory was said to be extreme
PoppaBigBear
he's also on youtube as nilered, dude turned vinyl gloves into grape soda, showed every step of the process
xeno426
His best alternate channel is NileGreen.
Efreeti
Yeah, I think this instagram content is just reposted from his Nilered Shorts channel.
TK421isAFK
He also has an alternate channel called NileBlue.
MajikMessiah
He has a lot of good chemistry videos on YouTube too
CaptRandom1290
And his Nile Blue channel has some pretty cool side projects as well
whatseventhepoint
Aka Willie Pete
Velocisoldier
I see a few of my fellow Redlegs are here
manbearpiglet2
Only reason I know this is from Newsroom. God damn that show is underrated.
derrymerbles
I watch it all the way through occasionally because it reminds me not everyone is crazy. Also, Aaron Sorkin is a genius.
It reminds me of when I used to want to tilt at windmills.
AMOmike77
Shake n bake!
prfesser
Fun fact: gram for gram, white phosphorus, taken internally, is more deadly than potassium cyanide.
duncandixoncoffee
Good news is, it’s enough food for a lifetime
Baconitis20
Fun fact: nicotine is more toxic than cyanide.
nutjob2
Because you blow up and catch on fire?
biclighter
I'll take ten then.
SleeperSix
I literally just had that as a bonus question on my chemistry quiz. "Which compound exceeds KCN in toxicity and lethality?"
JurjisBaufals1986
You cnow from tryil and errors
Orcus424
What about resiniferatoxin? The hottest pepper on earth is like 2.2 million Scovilles while resiniferatoxin is 16 billion Scovilles.
BroseidonKingOfTheBros
Isn't cyanide less toxic as you take more of it? or am i thinking of something else
crateo
You are thinking about air
caserocko
Is this like ... reverse homeopathy??
I swear it's a thing. Basically in small quantities your body processes it anddoes, in large you get nasty GI issues until it passes
And dies*
Interesting! I'll have to see what I can find on this!
nemocares
Google gives me an oral Ld50 (50% risk of death) of 3-5mg/kg WP for rats and mice, and an estimated oral HCN Ld50 for humans of 1.5 mg/kg.
https://webwiser.nlm.nih.gov/WebWISER/substance?substanceId=323&identifier=White%20Phosphorus&identifierType=alias&catId=92
YoullFindMeInALongSleeve
Just a heads up - prfesser specified potassium cyanide (LD50 5-8 mg/kg in mice/rats/rabbits). https://fscimage.fishersci.com/msds/19350.htm
Ah, that explains it. That potassium ion is little but dead weight here.
https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp8-c2.pdf
That would hurt.
tg2222222
But not for very long
SelfconsciouslyConfident
Bleeding out internally? Yeah
I was thinking more like a fatal case of heartburn.
Abersade
Grynnphotography
StorytellingSalem
How did you learn this?
From my textbook, Chemistry for Changing Times. I'm the second author listed. Seriously.
RebelSkull
One of us. One of us. One of us.
RigoryMorty
What does it taste like?
Thats fucking COOOOOOOOL! I like you. Keeo strutting homeslice!
Keep*
Harryteeters
Damn I was just about to ask if you could crush it up and snort it
catamenia
Sounds like another cure for covid
betterave
You can. Once.
SomeoneTookMyUsernameToo
If you're fast enough you can do it multiple times.
[deleted]
Hot white stuff? White hot stuff? Something.
meansyouw
Well you can snort it but only once
Given how WP powder and air go together you'd probably only get to huff the smoke and some fumes. Enjoy your phossy jaw!
whirlydoodle
Was curious so i wiki'd it. Fuckin A. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phossy_jaw
Matchstick makers used to get this from working with white phosphorous on a daily basis
GenesisNynja
Yeah it’s fucking terrifying.
ruint
Gentlemen, welcome to Dubai.
TheLastDigitOfPi
What made the scene mode terrifying is catharsis turn to guilt. From excitement of attacking enemy with the drone, to seeing the aftermath
turelhimvampire
[HENDRIX'S STAR SPANGLED BANNER INTENSIFIES]
ClawsOfTheWolf
"If you were a better person, you wouldn't be here."
O5IRI5
Great game.
CoolSweaterDude
Do you feel like a hero yet?
LordRevan2584
What a game. Expected a generic tps and received a game with a great history instead.
anvemnia
what game is it?
VesuvianPrime
Don't read anything, go in blind
ThomasThundersword
highly seconded! i haven’t played yet but it was used as the subject matter for a game dev video i watched. absolutely a game to go in blind
deadendkyo
Spec Ops The Line. Worth playing for the story.
MrRandom314159
Spec Ops: The Line. Basically a horror game. But not in the sense you think.
zephen
If you choose not to do the thing you fail the mission game railroads you into doing it. Eg no moral quandary of the player. Only character
RadioSilenceDW
I am curious about that section. If its even possible not to do the thing.
maydai110
Well that's the way they chose to tell the story. Its a linear game, and that's perfectly okay. Not every game needs decisions and choices.
GodEmperorOfImgur
There IS a moral quandry. You the player can always choose not to play.
MyKinkIsKinkshaming
It's a meta-commentary, like Bioshock. You control the speed of the train. The way you beat the game is to turn it off and not play.
nuwil
That's a laughable argument. If there's no choice then there's no winning or losing, you're just experiencing the story they're telling.
It's meant to be a shock moment and it's effective at that, but saying "you lost because you kept playing" is absurd and misses the point.
Yes? I agree with you that it's bullshit but that's the nature of meta narratives. You're engaging with the media on its own terms.
But that's literally what the Devs said - "you had a choice: turn off the game"
noway10
Yikes. Didn’t they make grenades using this stuff? Nightmare fuel.
Dasnekones
It is illegal to make anything but smoke grenades with that stuff i am pretty sure. War crimes.
Seggs
tracer rounds are coated in white phosphorus behind the exposed part of the bullet. gives it that gi joe laser shot appearance
azazyel
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-22310544
microcactus
Good ol' Willy Pete!
SirRuppOfFigs
Learned that from MASH
decimatorgaming404
thewildweasel
We (the British gov't) just dye it and classify it as a different substance. There's a reason we won the Falklands war. We're cunts.
222Infantree
Willie Pete!
Hendlton
Yup. And American soldiers used them against civilians in the past. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/16/iraq.usa
toptrojanfan
Yea we used WP hand grenades in Iraq to burn our trash.
DidItForScience
"burns to the bone when in contact with skin" https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/16/iraq.usa
charondaboatman
Willie Pete.
JoshOfTheDeep
Huh?
DefaOmega
Newsroom!
ExTechOp
Also, one of the most horrific comics villains IMHO https://www.empoweredcomic.com/comics/1453555218-empoweredv1_159.jpg
TheLeftNugget
Ol skullfucker himself.
Lifesuckswearahelmet
Yes
GrubbyLobster
Aye, they certainly did
Ascupart
My great uncle saw what WP shells did to vehicle crews in the tank corps during WWII. It was a kindness to shoot them, he said.
WhatzitTooya
That stuff gets sometimes washed ashore here in Germany, from all the old WWII ammo in the sea. People confuse it with amber and pick it up.
mmartin762
Heard they use it in Russia against the Chechens in anti sniper operations
Calicious
“Didn’t they” as if WP grenades aren’t still issued.
Milkea
Learned about it in Spec ops: the line, great game
Freakscar
I knewof it before the game. But that scene made me stop playing. Just couldn't.
laughinggas
That sequence fucked me up good but 100% would recomend the game to anyone in a heartbeat
lysergia
Great and horrible at the same time. Very much worth the time. Make sure to pick up all the lore stuff.
NoThymeForPuns
Wait wait wait... What lore stuff?? That game is phenomenal
NCRMadness50
There are collectible items in nearly all the level, that offer some insight into what was going on, what the characters were up to, etc
Dude me too. That scene took my breath away. Never forgot it.
"Do you feel like a hero yet?"
Crazyeyedpsycho
Used as recently as the battle for Fallujah I think
fester9
Used as recently as this year when Israel dropped it on civilians in Gaza.
By the US military on civilians none the less.
I think a lot of countries still use it. It's not against Geneva I don't think.
It's considered an incendiary weapon. I thought those were banned when used against people?
Yeah its a "sometimes" sort of ordeal.
Correct. But you can still use it as markers and whatnot. Look it up if you want to. But, of course, that leads to other uses as well.
"We were just using it for illumination.. We illuminated that dude, yep... we got a real good look at that guy"
dogwithahumanface
Israel currently uses it against civilians in Gaza
ThatGuyWhosFunAtParties
RacecarIsRacecarBackwards
https://www.hrw.org/report/2009/03/25/rain-fire/israels-unlawful-use-white-phosphorus-gaza
You can't say "currently uses it" and then link to an article from 2009.
factcheckmate
1. Not the same person 2. What changed since 2009 that Israel changed its mind on WP use?
GreaterAias
1) I'm an Aussie, so don't have a dog in the race, but "currently" doesn't mean 2009. The burden of proof is actually to to prove that
2) Israel is currently using white phosphorus against Palestinian civilians. The burden of proof is not on what has changed since 2009. So I
snailmore
It is current in context of history. Chem warfare first banned in 1920. Use of WP against civilians in 2009 shows disregard of humane laws.
TacoFox
There's a video of russians dropping an airburst WP bomb on Syrians.
turdswindler9000
Used some on my first tour in Afghanistan with the m777 155m. Yeah that stuff is pretty nasty.
Radix865
Pretty sure this fits when it comes to actual war:
Cricklestar13
"Smokescreen" we use WP "smokescreens" directly on enemy positions, very effective
Mr21782Man
Meanwhile when the US military goes to war
charlemayne
We like to call it on "enemy equipment" not our fault there were ppl there too /s
CheeseborgarSoop
They get away with it because smoke screens can have "side effects" that are loop holes. Like burning through flesh.
TheAnswerWasAlwaysMoreLube
LasciviousHedgehog
Israel was firing it into civilian population centres in 2009 and got a lot of bad PR for it. The photos are grim.
Yotarian
Was the issue not simply the 'firing into civilian population' part?
BlindGardener
Iunno, the US fires into the civilian population pretty frequently too.
And news articles get written. People protest. Did you somehow think I condoned it?
illegalacorn
also in 2010 and 2011 and 2012 and 2013 and 2014 and 2015 and 2016 and 2017 and 2018 and 2019 and 2020 and 2021
Palestine
Cyclicus
Yeah, and .50 cal ammunition isn’t supposed to be used on infantry, either.
IVerifyPeoplesUsernames
That's a common misconception.
PoppinLochNessHopster
I think if I had to be shot to death I'd want them to use the largest rounds possible.
evilgriff
They were shooting at his cover, not at him!
hagantic
50 cal shoots through cover....
RaddahRaddah
PonyMadness
Trying to disable that radio he's holding...
happyguide
I’m a Marine and this myth is so prevalent that my SOI instructors told it to me. But it’s flat out wrong. Ridiculous even. Just not true.
I am not a marine and therefore a more reliable source: The marine is correct in this case. Expanding ammunition is the nono bang
A simple google search reveals it as a myth. And why would it be illegal? Why would a .50 be more illegal than a bomb? Or napalm? Or a 40mm
grenade? Like MK-19 fully automatic 40mm grenade launcher we trained on the same week we were told .50’s are illegal to shoot people in war
dumberthanyouraveragebear
I feel like starting an argument with “I’m a marine” doesn’t lend credence unless the argument is what the crayon colour blue tastes like
BigBeeOhBee
It tastes very similar to red actually.
cyno01
IIRC .50 cal is for equipment. Helmets, flak jackets, windshields...
AnotherStupidHipster
Depends. .50 BMG is an antimaterial round. Used for busting material targets like IEDs, vehicles, armor, all kinds of stuff. 1/
.50 AE is used for armored personnel, but also for crazy shit like stopping charging bears when you're out hunting. (See the S&W 500)
NinjaBeta
*antitank round, repurposed to antimaterial with newer bullet designs
CrisprCAS
*antimateriel
RuricOrhlandis
They designate it as a anti-material weapon.
dougherd6
The actual term is anti-materiél ! It sounds cooler…. Probably got the accent wrong tho. Military’s stuffs is called “materiél”!
UnBobaLievable
Flesh is a material.
PiccChicc
More please. Ended too soon.
33WhiskeyTX
If you get burning white phosphorus on you you have to cut it off the skin
ahbrannon1
I had customer who lost both arms from the elbows down picking up a white phosphorous shell & throwing out the side window of a B17 in WWII.
SometimesIFeelLikeAGenius
NileRed is also on YouTube, great stuff. I use some his stuff for my teaching.
OogaOogaMooshka
Reminds me of the tv show M*A*S*H. The docs had to submerge the patients in water because they had shrapnel of white phosphorous in them.
KalleSchnikov
Hey lets throw some of that on humans why dont we
ReSouler
Pickled smoke rocks
Lurkninja
Paige, NOOOOOOO!!!
cheekysheikhy
Fun fact: the Israeli military used white phosphorus missiles against Palestinian civilians.
GiantSquanchy
They were totally just using the white phosphorous to generate smoke, and no other reason at all.
Toster12D3
It's at least more complicated than that https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_phosphorus_munitions free palestine
PineappleIsDeliciousOnPizzaFightMe
The Forbidden Chalk
drmuelr
I don't recommend ingesting regular chalk either... i.e. these things:
Thegreenestthumb9
I love those things for some reason. I have a thing for chalky tasting foods, it's weird.
kimst
Kept in water? but but but H2O. There is some free roaming O in that stuff. A fish told me so. Why is it not kept in another solution?
roguekiller23231
I don't understand how they collect/refine stuff that is so reactive with just the air!?
TheUnstoppableWampas
Put it under nitrogen atmosphere, or argon if it's really nasty.
Jsupes
* So it goes
CanuckleheadChick
How many calories per phosphorus?
confanity
Like... per molecule?
CanuckleheadChick
No, per phosphorus. You must have injected at least three marijuanas today or something.
confanity
No, no, all my marryjawanas are taken as herbal infusions, lovingly rubbed onto the surface of a steak which is then stolen by crows.
speedywrx
SchizophrenicEuphoria
@OP from NileRed on YT. The full length videos are better https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFhXFikryT4aFcLkLw2LBLA
oldbaldjewishman
Nice
FierceAndAdorable
https://www.military.com/history/fastest-medal-of-honor-was-awarded-airman-who-carried-burning-phosphorus-bomb-his-hands.html/amp
IamJACKSventedSPLEEN
Lived to 80 years old
FierceAndAdorable
IKR!?! Amazing person
SansAandAnguS
Makes me think of all those poor people who ended up with phossy jaw as a result of working with it to make matches - urggh!
PrincipalVaginaHereNoRelation
Yupurineutah
My father was tasked with helping to remove the remains of 37000 victims of the explosive and phosphor firebombing of Hamburg Germany. ?
CyborgScribe
I think most american firebombs at the time were oil and magnesium but idk what other nations used.
Yupurineutah
It's something he mentioned. I don't know. But OMG.. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-43546839
RunawaySpoons
My word, that's absolutely horrific.
barbarian818
A classic fun read on scary chemistry: https://corante.com/things-i-wont-work-with/sand-wont-save-you-this-time/
grlwithnoname
Neat OP
carmelkittiekat
HAHA! Beaker is my favorite Muppet!
grlwithnoname
Me too!
bolson7117
Fox news says it helps with covid
QtheM
In the 1600s, phosphorus was produced by extracting it from 1000s of gallons of urine. The stench from the factory was said to be extreme
PoppaBigBear
he's also on youtube as nilered, dude turned vinyl gloves into grape soda, showed every step of the process
xeno426
His best alternate channel is NileGreen.
Efreeti
Yeah, I think this instagram content is just reposted from his Nilered Shorts channel.
TK421isAFK
He also has an alternate channel called NileBlue.
MajikMessiah
He has a lot of good chemistry videos on YouTube too
CaptRandom1290
And his Nile Blue channel has some pretty cool side projects as well
Efreeti
Yeah, I think this instagram content is just reposted from his Nilered Shorts channel.
whatseventhepoint
Aka Willie Pete
Velocisoldier
I see a few of my fellow Redlegs are here
manbearpiglet2
Only reason I know this is from Newsroom. God damn that show is underrated.
derrymerbles
I watch it all the way through occasionally because it reminds me not everyone is crazy. Also, Aaron Sorkin is a genius.
manbearpiglet2
It reminds me of when I used to want to tilt at windmills.
AMOmike77
Shake n bake!
prfesser
Fun fact: gram for gram, white phosphorus, taken internally, is more deadly than potassium cyanide.
duncandixoncoffee
Good news is, it’s enough food for a lifetime
Baconitis20
Fun fact: nicotine is more toxic than cyanide.
nutjob2
Because you blow up and catch on fire?
biclighter
I'll take ten then.
SleeperSix
I literally just had that as a bonus question on my chemistry quiz. "Which compound exceeds KCN in toxicity and lethality?"
JurjisBaufals1986
You cnow from tryil and errors
Orcus424
What about resiniferatoxin? The hottest pepper on earth is like 2.2 million Scovilles while resiniferatoxin is 16 billion Scovilles.
BroseidonKingOfTheBros
Isn't cyanide less toxic as you take more of it? or am i thinking of something else
crateo
You are thinking about air
caserocko
Is this like ... reverse homeopathy??
BroseidonKingOfTheBros
I swear it's a thing. Basically in small quantities your body processes it anddoes, in large you get nasty GI issues until it passes
BroseidonKingOfTheBros
And dies*
caserocko
Interesting! I'll have to see what I can find on this!
nemocares
Google gives me an oral Ld50 (50% risk of death) of 3-5mg/kg WP for rats and mice, and an estimated oral HCN Ld50 for humans of 1.5 mg/kg.
nemocares
https://webwiser.nlm.nih.gov/WebWISER/substance?substanceId=323&identifier=White%20Phosphorus&identifierType=alias&catId=92
YoullFindMeInALongSleeve
Just a heads up - prfesser specified potassium cyanide (LD50 5-8 mg/kg in mice/rats/rabbits). https://fscimage.fishersci.com/msds/19350.htm
nemocares
Ah, that explains it. That potassium ion is little but dead weight here.
nemocares
https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp8-c2.pdf
Yupurineutah
That would hurt.
tg2222222
But not for very long
SelfconsciouslyConfident
Bleeding out internally? Yeah
Yupurineutah
I was thinking more like a fatal case of heartburn.
Abersade
Grynnphotography
StorytellingSalem
How did you learn this?
prfesser
From my textbook, Chemistry for Changing Times. I'm the second author listed. Seriously.
RebelSkull
One of us. One of us. One of us.
RigoryMorty
What does it taste like?
StorytellingSalem
Thats fucking COOOOOOOOL! I like you. Keeo strutting homeslice!
StorytellingSalem
Keep*
Harryteeters
Damn I was just about to ask if you could crush it up and snort it
catamenia
Sounds like another cure for covid
betterave
You can. Once.
SomeoneTookMyUsernameToo
If you're fast enough you can do it multiple times.
[deleted]
[deleted]
SomeoneTookMyUsernameToo
Hot white stuff? White hot stuff? Something.
meansyouw
Well you can snort it but only once
nemocares
Given how WP powder and air go together you'd probably only get to huff the smoke and some fumes. Enjoy your phossy jaw!
whirlydoodle
Was curious so i wiki'd it. Fuckin A. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phossy_jaw
MajikMessiah
Matchstick makers used to get this from working with white phosphorous on a daily basis
GenesisNynja
Yeah it’s fucking terrifying.
ruint
TheLastDigitOfPi
What made the scene mode terrifying is catharsis turn to guilt. From excitement of attacking enemy with the drone, to seeing the aftermath
turelhimvampire
[HENDRIX'S STAR SPANGLED BANNER INTENSIFIES]
ClawsOfTheWolf
"If you were a better person, you wouldn't be here."
O5IRI5
Great game.
CoolSweaterDude
Do you feel like a hero yet?
LordRevan2584
What a game. Expected a generic tps and received a game with a great history instead.
anvemnia
what game is it?
VesuvianPrime
Don't read anything, go in blind
ThomasThundersword
highly seconded! i haven’t played yet but it was used as the subject matter for a game dev video i watched. absolutely a game to go in blind
deadendkyo
Spec Ops The Line. Worth playing for the story.
MrRandom314159
Spec Ops: The Line. Basically a horror game. But not in the sense you think.
zephen
If you choose not to do the thing you fail the mission game railroads you into doing it. Eg no moral quandary of the player. Only character
RadioSilenceDW
I am curious about that section. If its even possible not to do the thing.
maydai110
Well that's the way they chose to tell the story. Its a linear game, and that's perfectly okay. Not every game needs decisions and choices.
GodEmperorOfImgur
There IS a moral quandry. You the player can always choose not to play.
MyKinkIsKinkshaming
It's a meta-commentary, like Bioshock. You control the speed of the train. The way you beat the game is to turn it off and not play.
nuwil
That's a laughable argument. If there's no choice then there's no winning or losing, you're just experiencing the story they're telling.
nuwil
It's meant to be a shock moment and it's effective at that, but saying "you lost because you kept playing" is absurd and misses the point.
MyKinkIsKinkshaming
Yes? I agree with you that it's bullshit but that's the nature of meta narratives. You're engaging with the media on its own terms.
turelhimvampire
But that's literally what the Devs said - "you had a choice: turn off the game"
noway10
Yikes. Didn’t they make grenades using this stuff? Nightmare fuel.
Dasnekones
It is illegal to make anything but smoke grenades with that stuff i am pretty sure. War crimes.
Seggs
tracer rounds are coated in white phosphorus behind the exposed part of the bullet. gives it that gi joe laser shot appearance
azazyel
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-22310544
microcactus
Good ol' Willy Pete!
SirRuppOfFigs
Learned that from MASH
decimatorgaming404
thewildweasel
We (the British gov't) just dye it and classify it as a different substance. There's a reason we won the Falklands war. We're cunts.
222Infantree
Willie Pete!
Hendlton
Yup. And American soldiers used them against civilians in the past. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/16/iraq.usa
toptrojanfan
Yea we used WP hand grenades in Iraq to burn our trash.
DidItForScience
"burns to the bone when in contact with skin" https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/nov/16/iraq.usa
charondaboatman
Willie Pete.
JoshOfTheDeep
Huh?
DefaOmega
Newsroom!
ExTechOp
Also, one of the most horrific comics villains IMHO https://www.empoweredcomic.com/comics/1453555218-empoweredv1_159.jpg
TheLeftNugget
Ol skullfucker himself.
Lifesuckswearahelmet
Yes
GrubbyLobster
Aye, they certainly did
Ascupart
My great uncle saw what WP shells did to vehicle crews in the tank corps during WWII. It was a kindness to shoot them, he said.
WhatzitTooya
That stuff gets sometimes washed ashore here in Germany, from all the old WWII ammo in the sea. People confuse it with amber and pick it up.
mmartin762
Heard they use it in Russia against the Chechens in anti sniper operations
Calicious
“Didn’t they” as if WP grenades aren’t still issued.
Milkea
Learned about it in Spec ops: the line, great game
Freakscar
I knewof it before the game. But that scene made me stop playing. Just couldn't.
laughinggas
That sequence fucked me up good but 100% would recomend the game to anyone in a heartbeat
lysergia
Great and horrible at the same time. Very much worth the time. Make sure to pick up all the lore stuff.
NoThymeForPuns
Wait wait wait... What lore stuff?? That game is phenomenal
NCRMadness50
There are collectible items in nearly all the level, that offer some insight into what was going on, what the characters were up to, etc
maydai110
Dude me too. That scene took my breath away. Never forgot it.
GodEmperorOfImgur
"Do you feel like a hero yet?"
Crazyeyedpsycho
Used as recently as the battle for Fallujah I think
fester9
Used as recently as this year when Israel dropped it on civilians in Gaza.
Hendlton
By the US military on civilians none the less.
maydai110
I think a lot of countries still use it. It's not against Geneva I don't think.
Crazyeyedpsycho
It's considered an incendiary weapon. I thought those were banned when used against people?
maydai110
Yeah its a "sometimes" sort of ordeal.
Hendlton
Correct. But you can still use it as markers and whatnot. Look it up if you want to. But, of course, that leads to other uses as well.
Crazyeyedpsycho
"We were just using it for illumination.. We illuminated that dude, yep... we got a real good look at that guy"
dogwithahumanface
Israel currently uses it against civilians in Gaza
ThatGuyWhosFunAtParties
RacecarIsRacecarBackwards
https://www.hrw.org/report/2009/03/25/rain-fire/israels-unlawful-use-white-phosphorus-gaza
ThatGuyWhosFunAtParties
You can't say "currently uses it" and then link to an article from 2009.
factcheckmate
1. Not the same person 2. What changed since 2009 that Israel changed its mind on WP use?
GreaterAias
1) I'm an Aussie, so don't have a dog in the race, but "currently" doesn't mean 2009. The burden of proof is actually to to prove that
GreaterAias
2) Israel is currently using white phosphorus against Palestinian civilians. The burden of proof is not on what has changed since 2009. So I
snailmore
It is current in context of history. Chem warfare first banned in 1920. Use of WP against civilians in 2009 shows disregard of humane laws.
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TacoFox
There's a video of russians dropping an airburst WP bomb on Syrians.
turdswindler9000
Used some on my first tour in Afghanistan with the m777 155m. Yeah that stuff is pretty nasty.
Radix865
Pretty sure this fits when it comes to actual war:
Cricklestar13
"Smokescreen" we use WP "smokescreens" directly on enemy positions, very effective
Mr21782Man
Meanwhile when the US military goes to war
charlemayne
We like to call it on "enemy equipment" not our fault there were ppl there too /s
CheeseborgarSoop
They get away with it because smoke screens can have "side effects" that are loop holes. Like burning through flesh.
TheAnswerWasAlwaysMoreLube
LasciviousHedgehog
Israel was firing it into civilian population centres in 2009 and got a lot of bad PR for it. The photos are grim.
Yotarian
Was the issue not simply the 'firing into civilian population' part?
BlindGardener
Iunno, the US fires into the civilian population pretty frequently too.
Yotarian
And news articles get written. People protest. Did you somehow think I condoned it?
illegalacorn
also in 2010 and 2011 and 2012 and 2013 and 2014 and 2015 and 2016 and 2017 and 2018 and 2019 and 2020 and 2021
ThatGuyWhosFunAtParties
illegalacorn
Palestine
TheAnswerWasAlwaysMoreLube
Cyclicus
Yeah, and .50 cal ammunition isn’t supposed to be used on infantry, either.
IVerifyPeoplesUsernames
That's a common misconception.
PoppinLochNessHopster
I think if I had to be shot to death I'd want them to use the largest rounds possible.
evilgriff
They were shooting at his cover, not at him!
hagantic
50 cal shoots through cover....
RaddahRaddah
evilgriff
PonyMadness
Trying to disable that radio he's holding...
happyguide
I’m a Marine and this myth is so prevalent that my SOI instructors told it to me. But it’s flat out wrong. Ridiculous even. Just not true.
TheAnswerWasAlwaysMoreLube
I am not a marine and therefore a more reliable source: The marine is correct in this case. Expanding ammunition is the nono bang
happyguide
A simple google search reveals it as a myth. And why would it be illegal? Why would a .50 be more illegal than a bomb? Or napalm? Or a 40mm
happyguide
grenade? Like MK-19 fully automatic 40mm grenade launcher we trained on the same week we were told .50’s are illegal to shoot people in war
dumberthanyouraveragebear
I feel like starting an argument with “I’m a marine” doesn’t lend credence unless the argument is what the crayon colour blue tastes like
BigBeeOhBee
It tastes very similar to red actually.
cyno01
IIRC .50 cal is for equipment. Helmets, flak jackets, windshields...
AnotherStupidHipster
Depends. .50 BMG is an antimaterial round. Used for busting material targets like IEDs, vehicles, armor, all kinds of stuff. 1/
AnotherStupidHipster
.50 AE is used for armored personnel, but also for crazy shit like stopping charging bears when you're out hunting. (See the S&W 500)
NinjaBeta
*antitank round, repurposed to antimaterial with newer bullet designs
CrisprCAS
*antimateriel
RuricOrhlandis
They designate it as a anti-material weapon.
dougherd6
The actual term is anti-materiél ! It sounds cooler…. Probably got the accent wrong tho. Military’s stuffs is called “materiél”!
UnBobaLievable
Flesh is a material.