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nihilityfarce
What Belgium did in the Congo is some of the most horrific NSFL shit I've ever heard. We really don't acknowledge it enough.
HourOfTheOwl
There are a lot of people in Belgium who are completely unaware and think he was some kind of hero.
Felberin
But as long as you keep killing your own people other countries don't really care.
vitaminalgas
They still love that guy on the right...
DVSBSTrD
People still love Donald Trump and Reagan.
gaarashatan0360
200k dead! i wonder if we should reelect this guy
DVSBSTrD
But Biden won't legalize weed, or give us that thing we've already rejected twice. THEY'RE BOTH JUST AS BAD!!! - morons
AtsaMattaForMe
ElronMcBong
Thank you for making my day
ChairmanLMA0
My username approves this message
FartPoweredPogoStick
Mousey Dong
CapitalNick
https://imgur.com/TRZQzlm
MisterWoolf
Now do it as a percentage. Pol Pot wins.
hurrdurr69
Using the logic of this graph old honest Abe would be up there too
MisterWoolf
Was Lincoln a dictator tho?
hurrdurr69
Sorry, I meant using the logic of this chart minus the dictator part
MisterWoolf
PHEW! I was worried for a second there.
Chubyllama
Well if you include warlords I think Genghis Khan armies killed around 40 million
psylentrage
...during conquest and uprisings, he wasn't a dictator or fascist
8gigsofshark
Do the Soviet soldiers who got thrown into the meat grinder of the eastern front count as Hitler's kills or Stalin's? Joint effort there
Promethianfire
In this chart, neither
Hookie1
23mil 22 drops, 78mil 76 drops
WienerBeener
And Genghis is where???
pseudopseudonym
In terms of percent of world population killed he's way ahead of any of them.
pseudopseudonym
In absolute numbers he's... probably ahead of Stalin. Assuming you count famine deaths, but famine deaths are in Stalin and Mao numbers too.
maninthedarkness
For one, he was a conqueror, not a dictator. The table is quite specific. He was also quite tolerant of the cultures of the lands he >
maninthedarkness
> conquered. Granted he did destroy Baghdad which set Islam back a lot, but that's how conquerors do.
LeSethX
"set Islam back a lot" ie, the mark used by most historians for the end of the Islamic Golden Age.
maninthedarkness
Just like Nov. 3rd, 2016 can be marked as a point at the end of the US.
kanne31
Maybe omitted because this focuses on 19th-20th century. Also I doubt accurate statistics exist from the 13th century.
GenghisKhan2020
Right here!
WienerBeener
You've got my vote.
GenghisKhan2020
You shall not be killed by horses
psylentrage
He wasn't a fascist or a dictator or far right or left and he allowed ALL religions, woman were equals, etc.
Lycarion
Perhaps the issue isn't simply the amount of deaths, but also how they were caused, and with what intent...
Domehammer
The low end estimate for kills too. High end estimate for Mao last time I had seen it is something like 130 million.
psylentrage
...and ALL done after the end of WWII...
yazza206
Ummmm Tojo and Japan in WW2 was more like 37 million - so
TacoSauna
Yeah I was thinking this too. They were savage in every country they conquered - especially China
EvilDeadTed
That's because the point of this is anti-communist propaganda. There's no part Socialism that requires mass killings. It's Authoritarianism.
Promethianfire
Sure. Thats why they include King Leopold II
beegergunn
Communism is organised genocide
EvilDeadTed
Ok, Boomer.
panamjck
Maybe Communism requires authoritarianism?
EvilDeadTed
It doesn't.
digsdugs
I know right? Such a stretch to use socialism as a common thread that resulted in the death of over a hundred million in the 20th century.
digsdugs
“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” -George Santayana
EvilDeadTed
Only people who don't know anything about Socialism would try to.
digsdugs
56% of adults 35 or younger are financially literate. 74% of seniors can pass the citizenship test-only 20% under 45 can. 1/
digsdugs
24% of adults 37 and younger can answer 4 or 5 questions correctly on a 5 question financial literacy quiz. The US ranks 14th in 2/
Keeperofthe7keys
Considering Russia alone lost 25 million in WWII this chart is not remotely accurate only giving Hitler 17.
Keeperofthe7keys
https://monthlyreview.org/commentary/did-mao-really-kill-millions-in-the-great-leap-forward/ Mao numbers highly inflated too.
Keeperofthe7keys
To be clear, I think Mao was bad enough that you don't need to lie about him, especially in the same graphic you're undercutting Hitler.
noname117spore
Seems to be counting genocide and mass murder deaths only for Hitler, which is somewhere from 17 to 20+ million.
JustContrary
And Hitler killed Hitler
willconltd
Stalin and Mao are WAY TOO LOW. You can kills people pretty easy with famine.
mad4some
superporcupinefish
Didn't the Japanese kill way more people during the second world war during their occupation of China and south east asia?
customcartoons
No Idi Amin? Guess I’ll ask Professor Google ...
WilliamElse
This is absolutely not a defence of Mao but it's worth pointing out that the majority of deaths attributed to him came from the famines...
WilliamElse
...that were unintended consequences of his terrible mismanagement of the country. In other words, perhaps not comparable in intent to...
WilliamElse
...Stalin and Hitler.
DingleDickels
If those kills include war deaths, then some US presidents have got to he on that list.
adamrac
I have tried to educate people on Imgur about Mao's record and got downvotes, they said- nah, he only killed like 2 million. Morons.
ArealJim
So theres the record of that occuring? can I see?
ScienceVEngineers
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_China
Jiffrine
You gotta use infographic. Makes it more true automatically.
phonoodle415
And entertaining!
Heizenberg6
Yeah. With Imgur's collective IQ, that doesn't surprise us.
Zambezionis
They only care about Hitler because they are brain washed.
DVSBSTrD
To be fair, about 20 million of those were unintentional consequences of his "Four Pests" campaign.
Locolarue
"Only" 2 million. "Only" 10x more than everyone you've ever met.
fbutt09
Breadite
Excuse me, i have a degree from reddit so I know what I'm talking about when I say he killed like, 350, tops
idontevenlookatusernames
Damn loch ness Maonster
SadlyImABugMagnet
Where's the post?
zamielvanweber
Didn't he kill a fuckton by ordering people to kill birds? And that was one action. Mao is horrifying, especially with how his cult 1/2
zamielvanweber
still endures. People still who survived the cultural revolution still weep for his loss. 2/2
Cheomesh
The "Four Pests", yeah: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Pests_Campaign
SanshinDojo
China has been asshoe for a while now.
CyborgScribe
Most of the people he killed were not deliberatly murdered like with Stalin or Hitler
CyborgScribe
He killed many millions just by not understanding agriculture and causing a famine.
TheMrrigan
Even Stalin's death count is mostly incompetence and starvation, rather than industrialized genocide like Hitler.
CyborgScribe
Some may make the argument that the mass starvation of Ukrainians wasnt accidental tho I know that's controversial.
TheMrrigan
There were intentional elements to the holodomor, that's indisputable
TheMrrigan
But, most of Stalins kill count is through unintentional starvations
Domehammer
The entire reason Chinese people eat everything they can get hands on is because of Mao. Famine he caused is why you don't have birds in 1/2
REAGANSMASH84
They ate each other, cannibal parties under Mao.
Domehammer
Chinese cities, the people literally just eat all the birds. You see Chinese tourists just catch birds to eat them. 2/2
Cheomesh
You realize China isn't under a famine anymore, yeah?
Domehammer
I know but it left a imprint on the culture to eat literally anything that moves.
Cheomesh
Eh? I mean China has a hard time popularizing potatoes there, try as they might.
Errorpronepolymerase
Need reliable source. Otherwise just BS
TheKingRamen
We got a denier in our midst folks.
ScienceVEngineers
Plenty of primary sources in the references: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_China
Errorpronepolymerase
I consider these as reliable source, thank you. But the numbers don’t add up to this post.
ScienceVEngineers
Follow the link to the famines (55M high end) and the cultural revolution (20M high end).
Errorpronepolymerase
Nvm, I’d agree Mao’s ruling killed a lot. I just can’t quite agree with a bunch of journalists and ‘scholars’ estimating stuff.
euphoricopportunity
It's the implication offered by so many that any step away from laissez-faire is somehow an endorsement of slaughter than gets downvotes.
Locolarue
You think what we have is laissez-faire?!?!
euphoricopportunity
No, just too far in that direction.
Locolarue
LOL, sure buddy, sure.
euphoricopportunity
I'm certainly not denying that there's a ton of corrupt politicians and that we have a horrible crony capitalism.
euphoricopportunity
I"d argue that these are better for anti-authoritarian arguments that anti-socialist arguments.
euphoricopportunity
Not that they're not true, but that these stats are so often used in bad faith, as strawmen.
Retromorphic
Do these also count famines?
Keeperofthe7keys
Highly inflated numbers of them too & attributing famines to rulers who were still establishing power and industrializing is a huge stretch.
iusedtodream
Murder is murder.
Keeperofthe7keys
K, didn't say it wasn't, no reason to lie about it though saying Mao killed more and Hitler killed less then in reality.
iusedtodream
Murder by withholding life sustaining needs is the same as a bullet; one could argue worse because it's also torture.
Keeperofthe7keys
Okay, good thing that happened as a result of decades of war, natural disaster and inefficient administration as opposed to the 1/2
REAGANSMASH84
CCP was shipping most of its food the USSR in exchange for weapons. "They will die far from the cities so few will know"-Mao
ProfessorSnugglesworth
Yes but to be fair the famine in China was a direct result of the Great Leap Forward masterminded by Mao.
okamitengu
And deaths of Nazis during ww2, these numbers come from the pro fascist "little black book of communism"
CyborgScribe
Yeah. Mao would be like 4th or 5th without them.
Couch1432
Yes
HootSloot
Yes, most of which can be attributed to idiotic farming practices embraced by stalin and then Mao.
ortahj00
Hard to believe the first one was just 9 years old and killed so many people
mainzy123360
By your logic Hitler is 3?
EvilDeadTed
psylentrage
Uhm, greed kills, not capitalism...
EvilDeadTed
Capitalism is greed.
psylentrage
So is killing 70 million people in the name of communism. Even nature has a form of capitalism built in, survival of the fittest, etc.
EvilDeadTed
That's not greed. That's Authoritarianism. And Nature does not have capitalism.
JJE92
While we need more global redistribution, the percentage of people dying of hunger was higher before capitalism and is steadily decreasing
huffmd365
Severely flawed logic. So the people who starved in china and other communist/socialist countries is also the fault of capitalism?
EvilDeadTed
No one's claiming that. Nice straw man.
jaggcomputing5
? Why capitalism? What about people who won't get their shit together, tribalism, and biology?
Iron0rc
Stop being poor?
jaggcomputing5
The way of the universe. there will always be high and low energy states. You can do something about it by participating politically.
fearandloathinginaz
Where is Trump?
CoreyLee04
havent hit a teardrop worths yet
Sarcasticbombastic
Four more years!
boondoggle2025
Where does Trump want to be on this list?
FireBottom
Was waiting for this comment...
fearandloathinginaz
I know right?
EroticZombiePants
Serious answer: You can arguably connect 200k from covid to him. Aside from that, not much more. Bush Jr did more in Iraq.
fearandloathinginaz
It was a hilarious joke till you ruined it, EroticZombiePants if that is even really your name.
orzhvopatriarch
My question is who gets counted as "killed" here cause hitler's number doesn't even cover soviet losses in the war.
noname117spore
These figures definitely don't take into account war mills. I think it's just deliberate mass murders and negligence deaths as well.
noname117spore
*deaths. Damn autocorrect. Don't even know how it got mills from that.
orzhvopatriarch
I feel like firing a bunch of rockets blindly at london counts as deliberate mass murder but idk
noname117spore
Compared to everything else I dont think the number of deaths from that is that significant.
noname117spore
And at the same time you could make the argument that the allies bombing civilian buildings falls under the same criteria. So now (1/2)
noname117spore
We'd have to count bombing campaigns of the war. (2/2)
blarglebrle
Mao killed more than all the others combined, let that sink in.
iluvdis
He's winning!
Intergalacticdinosaur
" China "
dghammer
Communism
KeepYourTangoAndYourFoxtrot
Authoritarianism
TheKingRamen
When you give the government the amount of power necessary to enact communism, Authoritarianism always ensues.
KeepYourTangoAndYourFoxtrot
But, as can be seen from the chart, communism isn't a necessary factor in enacting authoritarianism.
UselessFacts
But Hitler had a higher kill rate, he just needed more time.
theswissgirl
Hum.. no? 17mill / 11 years = 1,54 millions per year -- 78mil / 33 years = 2,3millions per year
superanth
That was about 10% of the population of China, most of them during the Great Leap Forwards.
torokunai
and the same government is still in power there. Let that sink in too!
fbutt09
TheRelevancyOfMyNameIsRelativelyIrrelevant
and the mao numbers are only rough estimates as his regime went to great lengths to hide the mass starvation of the people.
CoreyLee04
what does that sink want this time?
Imademyselfsquirtle
China is assho
khora
But more out of incompetence than malice.
nuketheburrito
I'm not pro ccp or Mao by any means, but these aren't even comparable. Incompetent policymaking vs malicious atrocities.
Domehammer
This graph also uses the low estimate for his kills. High estimate is almost double.
RisingPhoenix92
China still has over a billion people too
magphoenix
That's a sick KD. What do you get for that kind of kill streak?
W0rldShaper
Realistically though, raw numbers are a bad comparison. Need something like "kills per capita under rule" to truly compare.
Jernau
That's Pol Pot's time to shine!
Crowlands
Or over time. Hitler may not have had as many, but he was speedrunning that shit.
busted88
Tell that to the families of those who died.
orzhvopatriarch
Not defending Mao cause he was an asshole who killed millions, but these numbers aren't sourced or accurate 1/2
orzhvopatriarch
the one that stands out to me is the 17 million number for hitler, just the invasion of the USSR killed more then that
LiamRobertsonjr
Deaths between two military forces arent counted normally in these types of statistics. Can't say I understand why.
GaySocialistLiberalMuslimCommieAtheist
Except when we count German soldiers dying to USSR troops, thats pretty common... hmm. Wonder why.
orzhvopatriarch
just seems like counting a famine cause you thought killing all the birds was a good idea but not counting an invasion is a bit cheeky
giley
The majority were due to catastrophic mismanagement of the agricultural system, which caused a huge famine. Google "the great leap forward"
Cheomesh
A cautionary tale of not approaching things scientifically. Stalin had similar under Lysenkoism.
TheKingRamen
Well I think decentralized systems where you allow local experts, like the farmers, manage them selves provides the best yield and stability
TheKingRamen
Of course that’s not always the case. Look up the history of the TVA some farmers can really screw then selves
Delathi
Yeah, most of Mao's killings were due to incompetence, not specific malice.
anotherprosaicusername
Incorrect. Most of those deaths are related to the Cultural Revolution, where he recruited young idealists to stamp out enemies of the state
anotherprosaicusername
Anyone with "old ideas," religious, cultural or emotional, was killed as reactionary counter-revolutionaries. About 50M total, per the book
anotherprosaicusername
The Black Book of Communism. The rest were as a result of the Great Leap Forward. This wasnt mismanagement, but an attempt to apply Marx's
anotherprosaicusername
Ideas about putting production in the hands of the people, away from mass production. It's an excellent example of where Marxism is wrong.
Rijtjeshuis
There's probably a moral distinction to be made between deaths from intentional genocide versus irresponsible agricultural policies...
ArealJim
idk if its a moral distinction but for whatever reason.Is the Hall Of Cost more heinous or is it just more well known is one concern of mine
DavidTemper
yeah, by that standard they should include the USA famine caused by the dust bowl
rockarolla
What about intentionally irresponsible agriculture policies? Mass starvation was intended in Ukraine and other areas by the soviets
Cheomesh
Don't forget Lysenko's fucked up ideas.
giley
I believe he's referring to the Chinese "great leap forward", which is responsible for the majority of Mao's total.
CyborgScribe
That was murder. Mao killed a TON of people by being a dumbass tho.
RedneckFrank
This is a fucking stupid graph. This is just anti communist propaganda. Mao was a failure, but capitalism has been as big of a failure
RedneckFrank
Why don't you coun't all the people who died from drug overdoses or homelessness etc under obama, trump, bush, any US prez. Fuck this
jaggcomputing5
Really? Capitalism is a failure? It is theist successful economic theory going.
RedneckFrank
Is your version of "success" Being one of the richest countries in the world and not being able to feed your own people? Not mine.
wongtonpoop
Thats how capitalism works, every person for themselves.
RedneckFrank
Which is to say, it doesn't fucking work
wongtonpoop
I dont see any rich people complaining.
jaggcomputing5
I think that that is more a failure of the political system rather than of capitalism.
RedneckFrank
Right, but in communism (at least marxist libertarian communism) the representative democracy is gone too. Everyone gets one vote for
RedneckFrank
Everything, and so the gvt is just bureaucrats keeping track of things. Gets rid of that bs. Not saying it's perfect, just better.
JeanCairoli
So what if it is anti communist propaganda? We don’t need more communism and we need to make sure people know how bad communism is.
RedneckFrank
We don't have any true communism, far left politics are demonized by people who have been told to do so their entire life. Pick up a book
BigTex1
RedneckFrank
There is no "this time" Marxist communism has never been implemented in any country.
BigTex1
JeanCairoli
I teach philosophy bro I be read some books, and yes far left should be demonized the same as far right.
JeanCairoli
I’ve*
RedneckFrank
Do you read political philosophy though? do you understand that far right is just extreme free market and what you're presumably talking
RedneckFrank
about is actually authoritarian gvt and you can be authoritarian and right or left or dead center (radical centrism)
RedneckFrank
And that most modern leftists are libertarian leftists.
EvilDeadTed
RedneckFrank
Go ahead and tell em
agw42
So, if every capitalist country that is producing the surplus would go to communism like the soviet union. Would more or less people die?
RedneckFrank
Less. The reason communism is failed is because they didn't have surplus. For example, in Maos china they weren't able to produce food
RedneckFrank
Effectively enough, but we have robots, machines. We're afraid of robots taking our jobs!!! LET THEM!
agw42
I think it's less "captitalism kill" and more "capitalism doesn't save as many as it could".
LastoftheLillyCreatures
sure, but that's just "the glass is half full"-rhetoric in place of a statement about the idiocy of people dying of thirst while we, 1/2
LastoftheLillyCreatures
the people with the glass of water, debate if it is half full or half empty and that that is factually a problem of incentives in capitalism
Weregerbil2
That only holds true if the assumption is made that every country in the world is capitalist.
RedneckFrank
For the most part they are, but I also literally only mentioned us politicians.
CyborgScribe
They mostly are. Even places like China now adopt a ton of capitalist policies to stay global market competitive.
EvilDeadTed
What other economic system is practised, outside of Socialist Cuba?
TheMrrigan
There's Juche, in North Korea. Auth-right self "sufficiency" that has a communist veneer.
RedneckFrank
Communist Veneer is a little odd for an Auth- right country, but I agree. still not anything like marxism though.
bluedragonlamp
Now I feel concerned that I learned about Hitler and Stalin in school but not a thing about Mao Zedong
billystar101
Weird, I never thought about that either
confanity
That's probably mostly because you lived in a country that hyper-focuses on European history and mentions the rest of the world in passing.
ArealJim
Im surprised too but actual extermination camps during war is a bit different than starving people out.
SuperRockinMrMagic
Beyond that a lot of the starvation was epic ineptitude for both Stalin and Mao tho Stalin extra fucked Ukraine on purpose
cyno01
Hitler, Stalin, and Mao all killed a shit ton of people intentionally. Stalin and Mao killed a shit ton more unintentionally.
cyno01
Hitler never collapsed Germanys ecosystem.
catsofat
I definitely learned about mao, 8th grade, USA. Didnt hear much that i recall about king Leopold though?
dcchillin46
Enslaved the entirety of the Congo pretty much and worked them to death in mines.
SashoWindfeather
Eddie izzard said it best. Hitler killed people next door. After a while we won't stand for that. Pol pot/ Mao killed their own people
Rockafella83
Mao himself have higher deaths count than all other regrouped. Damn !
orzhvopatriarch
Not defending Murdering Mao, but take this with a grain of salt. Doesn't seem to be counting people killed in nazi invasions for one thing
SaltyEsq
Also missing hirohito for Japan since he was in charge while Japan was going around massacring nearby Asian countries (see rape of nanking)
dejadrew
Yeah I learned about it but not until I got into college. He was a truly horrible, evil man. Wasn’t even trying to make his country better
derfisher
Well we stopped hitler before he reached mao level numbers. But hitler had greater velocity in murders and would have outpaced mao if he
derfisher
Captured Russia. Via mass and slow starvation similar to what was happening to the polish at the time.
yesyoucancancan
Mostly the people starved, as opposed to being slaughtered deliberately
cybermage256
They print the books in China
leperoutcastunclean
I'm surprised you learned about Stalin in school. Where did you go to school?
Almaadin
If Disney has anything to say about it you never will.
physicsisalwaysrelevant
My textbook ended before Mao took power.
SkeletorXD
You expected to learn in school? Especially something controversial that weighs heavily on modern events?
DJdankkitty
And his name has dong in it
ProfessorSnugglesworth
Read the Wikipedia page on the Great Leap Forward. Wild stuff.
Cheomesh
I learned a bit but most of history was focused on the west. Very little about anything other than US and Europe (unless it involved them).
fbutt09
yingjun
Asia and Africa don't count homie. #eurocentrism
trreeves
As you should be
Delathi
Most of Mao's killing was due to incompetence and not specific malice.
PhilMcrevice
Eddie Izzard addressed that in Dressed to Kill. Kill your own people and we pretty much let them do it, cross a boarder, Hitler, silly man.
awahheh
Realy . Wow we learned about even in Eastern KY. That his was the worst by far .
alcaray
World history cut off at a certain point in HS for me. We did not study anything post-WW2.
StrikaAmaru
Neither did we, the official explanation from the teacher was that too many crucial documents are still classified.
DontKnowTheSource
We spent the last like month learning post ww2. Ya know, when everyone checks out mentally
BallsMcCracken
Well considering the books were printed in the 50's...
alcaray
I was born in the 50s.
DVSBSTrD
Did you go to school in Texas?
bluedragonlamp
Nah Florida and Indiana
DVSBSTrD
Florida has schools?
bluedragonlamp
I know, shocker
DVSBSTrD
I thought they were all kept in tanning beds till they turned 13 and then chose between smuggling cocaine or a Disneyland internship.
LegoStomper
Look up the 'Great Leap Forward'. They fucked up rooooyally.
SuperRockinMrMagic
Trofim Lyshenko effectively killed tens of millions in ussr and China with his bullshit "science" check out behind the bastards podcast
SuperRockinMrMagic
Leaders subscribing to what fits them ideologically rather than real science, glad that doesn't happen anymore...oh wait
dcostanza1
The great leap forward and cultural revolution were very yikes. He was also an impressively ineffective leader.
gypsyspot
He invented "traditional chinese medicine" because he count provide actual medicine to his people. Acupuncture, chi bull shit, all of it
gypsyspot
I mean Qi bull shit
gypsyspot
Some form of blood letting had been around as acupuncture but the modern acupuncture was Mao's TCM
Daft113
Telling a bunch of farmers to suddenly and without training to switch to forging iron was a bad idea who knew lol
Aaronb1138
And their iron is still the worst in the world many decades later. A whole country dedicated to "close enough".
dcostanza1
Ah yes let's melt useful stuff to make brittle back yard iron we can then turn into useless stuff.
Daft113
All those ghost city skyscrapers that started falling apart a year after being built
TheJewsHas
which really sucks, it's all self regulation with minimal care of quality. Seems like their gov is trying to shove regulations but no avail
fibersplicingreekman
We didn’t fight and beat that guy so. It’s almost like we don’t need a movie.
billystar101
Great way to put it lol
bluedragonlamp
I’m saddened by how good of a point that is
chefsoda
This guy gets it
ArealJim
lol well its almost like american history is more heavily covered in school than international. Its assumed folk with 12 grades of edu 1/
ArealJim
or less wont need to think about international history or if they do, their thoughts wont matter much lol. 2/2
Wylaika5
Was going to say Korea war but yeah you can't call it a win
WwwhyYouNoLikeMe
Didn't fight or beat Stalin either
ArealJim
And we fought stalin?
SpecialProjectY
We not, but others did.
Zarf42
Cold War.
euphoricopportunity
You didn't learn about that in school? What country was that?
theswissgirl
Never learned that too, neither Stalin. Swiss here
ChocolateCookieAndFudge
China.
bumblingbee33842
I'm US too. Never learned about Mao and took AP world history. I think it depends on the state. Mine was VA and FL
euphoricopportunity
NY, graduated HS in 2000. Definitely went to an unusual school though, that covered a bit more than the basic curriculum.
bluedragonlamp
Good ole’ USA ?
AkaStarLord
US here, we definitely learned about him.
imabigasstree
Also US (Tennessee) here, I definitely didn't.
Lightshadow688
US here, we definitely didn't..
Panlong
US here, no we did. It's in the history books. I did well on that test.
Mother0fCats
Different states have different requirements about what you get to learn
Lightshadow688
Maybe you did, I'm not denying that. But the US is a big country. I know for a fact we did not at my high school
AkaStarLord
What state? We did in Texas, we had to take world history and Mao was covered.
Lightshadow688
Utah. Not once did I hear about Mao til after high school. Even in my "World History" class
AestheticRobot
What year did you graduate. I graduated about 5 years ago and didn't get taught past ww2.
drainbamage1011
KY here. It came up but we didn't spend a ton of time on it.