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nosferatradamus
Why am I reading it in his voice ?
Bigcurly2000
From speaking to American friends, I'd say we learn about our shitty past way more objectively and honestly than they do.
SushiJaguar
This isn't even remotely close to true.
jesusisherelookbusy
CangodCreateAStoneItCannotLift
So, like every other country then?
Dalael
The british were fair. They brought misery to everyone equally.
Cutlazz
Yup hard disagree here in my education and all those I've asked we all were taught how evil and great British history is. We don't shy away.
thedarkcanuck
Victor didn't deserve that :(
nasukkin
He's not up to Pollos' standards.
TheMicktrex
Whoever spread this rumour that the UK isn't taught its own history can stop. It's not true. I do enjoy these memes though.
ChalkCoatedDonut
Los Pollos Britanos
JHRD1880
Haha yes. Just the Brits.
thecynabal
Not sure where you got this Idea in school I learned about the Massacre of Amritsar, Bloody Sunday, Mau Mau and other British shitnanigans
StreetHawk95
CRT in a nutshell
DJOldguy
Rubbish, History is never whitewashed in Britain a clear bunch of amoral murderers, liars, thieves they were, that's just the monarchs!
CplCarrot
Get the impression our history books are pretty accurate. Learned quite a bit about the crimes of the Empire. And since.
You miss spelt Russia
iamlegendinjapan
Misspelt
newnhb
Of the current 200 nations in the world, we British have invaded all but 22 of them. Sorry guys. 200 years ago we had anger 'issues'
JupiterMiningCorpRep
Unfortunately that statistic is just a bit misleading. The author considers that if a british soldier enters a country that its an invasion.
swedeonamoose
Britain in Swedish history books is more like a ok "friend". France is the great frenemy.
Carl99
They';e called frogs in the UK. Apologies Franc,e gotta meme on you, pretty sure there's a law about it.
TheJackKetch
In the UK a reverse victory sign (showing the back of the hand), basically means "fuck you," it comes from the 100 years wars when the /1
/2 French would cut the draw fingers off longbow archers if they caught them. Free archers would flip the French the bird with both fingers.
Clarysage
Feel like I learnt a fair bit in history class about how much of a terrible bunch of pricks we are/were to everyone.
debthepleb
Speak for your country. In mine we just had a pros and cons debate about the British Raj.
Cheomesh
Are there pros? There's got to be a few pros in there somewhere.
Eh, millions of lives ruined, civil war started by them before leaving, economy was in shambles. But they also built a rail network.
Which we were allowed to use at the time btw.
Indian government also say that English as a universal language helped build ties between different regions of india.
Yep! Forgot about that one.
Zreen
Just saw that episode yesterday
teddybonkerrs
What is it from?
Dhatudhatu
Breaking Bad.
88wut
Colonizing and pillaging are lucrative endeavors.
AscensionGames
I think Malta would have put Britain as the top one once. Possibly the only country that would though.
charlie2979
Only because Napoleon conquered Malta and banned slavery. They we invaded.
Oh no. The French were just unpopular and we were 1) requested to invade, 2) offered to hand it back to the former rulers but that was 1/2
unpopular with the Maltese so didn't, and 3) kept the abolition on slavery which was a popular move. So no it wasn't because of slave ban2/2
They did leave them that giant fuck-off cannon
Enderstotle
Both say that Britain was a phenomenal casting choice?
ElizaMDancer
Which film is this?
SnowTimeLikeNow
Breaking Bad (series)
Oh wow. I do remember him from breaking bad (how couldn’t ? awesome series and casting yes) but I don’t remember the second scene
massholesome
When he killed his right hand man I believe start of 2nd part of final series.
Ok. Thanks. That was a brilliant series. One of the best
OmnipotentBeing
Ding ding ding! Correct!
DavidBrooker
His ability to switch between personas was such a big part of the role, which I found really unique until seeing Adam Scott in Severance 1/2
Not to take away from either, two excellent performances. But two that I thought had interesting parallels. 2/2
minant
Did you ever see Anna Torv in Fringe?
Nope, should I?
It's a good show and she does a great job in it. Blurb: paranormal investigation by an agent, a mentally-damaged scientist, and his son.
kittykaroshi
I never understood this scene fully. Why do bad guys kill their loyal henchmen?
WeMistbornsNeedNotMakeSense
He was the least important person in the room and Gus really wanted to murder someone out of anger
That scene could only have been the writers' mistake. Gus literally hired that guy to replace Walt
ImpliedConsent
No, he was a henchmen who was watching Walt and learned his process. You’re thinking of Gale (and Jesse to an extent).
RedBlueGreenRedBlueGreen
No he didn't. He worked for Gus in the Better Call Saul times long before Walt.
Omg so wtf then!
Broadway2
Uhmm no. He hired Gale to replace Walt. That guy was just a henchman he killed to send a message.
OhSoEnglish
Yes? What's your point? Of course the other books are lying ??
Eli93
All those nations gave Britain artefacts to display in their museums, so they can't really hate them, right?
NZSheeps
They're obviously just jealous
MomofukuJones
Smh, how about some refection? England has committed numerous atrocities, not even that long ago.
England, or Great Britain? Or the United Kingdom? Or Scotland? England's empire ended in 1707, as did Scotland's.
England - the country that dominated Great Britain. Also that is completely besides the point
How so?
For starters England is the major economy (i.e., most of Wales was subsidised by England). London was and is the capital, with the other 1/2
Also a country has no memory. Do you want all peoples to constantly bemoan their past? No one escapes being shitty.
Not bemoaning the past all the time... im more shocked that you would joke about it like that and that so many people would like it.
When I bet most of those people criticize the US in the same breath
If you can't joke about it what have you left? Ernest sincerity with condemnation of all? Sounds great. Sign. Me. Up.
Hekatombe
ProfessorVanDiggenSagg
Meanwhile everywhere elsewhere within the Kingdoms
NotUSAmerican
Same goes for USA. Only country I know that's pretty honest about their history is Germany. They're literally just teach those 12 years.
DeKetsendeRechter
We get honest teachings about our countries' past in The Netherlands.
alman1234
That’s something I wouldn’t expect, I always got weird looks mentioning the holocaust at all while I was there…
MrBlueSands
Were you in a Wendy's?
Not exactly, taxis and bars
TheFunionKnight
Dunno about USA but in UK when i was at school we studied alot of shitty behaviour to other countries and our selves
Nah they have to teach a lot more than that yeah? Hell even if they want to focus on bastardly thing the 30 years war existed.
somnif
I mean, I learned about the trail of tears, the slave trade, even the Tuskegee experiments in jr high and high school.
Feralkyn
Yeah, but this WIDELY depends on your district. There's no federal curriculum, and a lot of regions whitewash it.
I learned about most of this in NY and found out, to my vast disappointment, that a lot of places *don't* teach it.
ah true, unfortunately (grew up in East LA, for context)
JackHL01
Hence our hesitation about Ukraine . . .
Oof, yeah. Germany needs to step up its game there.
At least oil's gonna... eventually... get the ban
We are on it, but get as busy with you extremely bloody and extremly cruel history and maybe you'd have a easier time understanding us.
I'm not sure what you mean by that? I do live here mind
me too, up north.
BaconAlmighty
Kinda like America too
lilmookie
I would have been very upset if I had been able to read.
Jheklstuff
America: I learned it from watching you!
Funny how the UK just exports assholes as perceived by other countries in general
popejubal
Lol. As if there would be a black man in an American history book.
barrocoyote
Let me guess, you aren't American.
I'm a Marylander; we have several famous blacks from here.
FlintNorth44
I learned about Frederick Douglass and MLK Jr.
Name one thing America ever did wrong.
PicassoCT
Iraq war, but why stop there. And there is more to come as empire culture eats the democracy up
Jesus that was obvious irony... you must be on the spectrum not to realize it.
Found a photo of you browsing imgur
You downvoted me from your mistake. "Name one thing America ever did wrong" is as obvious a joke as "Name one thing Germany ever did wrong."
Zapper83
You
You downvoted me. Just because you can't recognize sarcasm. "Name one thing America ever did wrong" You: *gasp* Doesn't he know history???
Found a picture of you
I'm Canadian. We specialize in quirky comedy
Mysticalmuffet
Nope hard disagree In History in England we learn how much of a bastard England was to England. Bloody England. Ruining it for the English!
Aksuuuh
Nowadays you settle ruining everyone's day on a holiday.
Brothers and sisters are natural enemies! Like Englishmen and Scots! Or Japanese and Scots! Or Scots and other Scots! Damn Scots!
TheRicM
Did you learn how much of a bastard England was to other countries, not just to England?
CanOnlySayYes
Nope. We mostly learnt about America’s segregation for some reason. The only british module we had was about ppganda in WW2.
Yeah I finished school in 2003 and we did slave trade, Indias road to independence, fall of the empire, as well as WWI and ii,
Rise of nazi Germany, 1930s America, civil rights UK + US, fall of the Soviet Union oh and causes of strife in the middle East (UK France)
themagicalliopleurodon
Anything about ireland?
ZeroaFFXIV
Learned about Cromwell etc but not the more recent history from the 80s and 90s, but I graduated 2006 so may be different now.
JohnMike64
We finish mandatory education at 18 there isn't time for that. All you get is Britain Vs it's self & Europe and even most of that is notes
Dude that’s v
JustAFlamingoInDisguise
Mandetory education in UK ends at 16? Sixth form/college was still optional last I checked?
Nope been mandatory 18 for England since 2015
Fair enough. I learnt something new today. England did their own thing. But for the rest of UK its still 16.
IamTheBritishEmpire
As a history teacher I always cover the empire's actions in India and Australia. As well as our role in slavery and also jack the ripper.
We do. We learn a pretty broad mix of history, including world history and political history, and its not sugar coated etc
argentinaturnerprize
im glad to hear this as when i went through school (left in 2006) we learned about some of it but with such a glorifying tone that...
...ive spent a lot of the years since discovering new horrors almost by the month!
I left school 2003, had a very different experience, maybe the teacher/school /teaching board makes the difference?
roneyBugPrince
Not sure why your being downvoted. You are absolutely correct
always1haveparis
Yes. I finished secondary in 2011 and covered the Atlantic slave trade, Mughal empire, East India, and China/opium. All factual and balanced
doublewoot
They teach ya about Ireland?
Yes
Among other periods/regions
Thx for the info, good to know
wwilddoge
Can second this. Finished normal secondary school in 2008 and did higher education history. Our curriculum was very balanced.
ya see i finished in 2006 so our curriculum must have been similar and i would strongly (but respectfully) disagree! tbh your use of the...
...word 'balanced' makes me think of the old 'but we made trains in india' kind of things i left school with in my head.
nosferatradamus
Why am I reading it in his voice ?
Bigcurly2000
From speaking to American friends, I'd say we learn about our shitty past way more objectively and honestly than they do.
SushiJaguar
This isn't even remotely close to true.
jesusisherelookbusy
CangodCreateAStoneItCannotLift
So, like every other country then?
Dalael
The british were fair. They brought misery to everyone equally.
Cutlazz
Yup hard disagree here in my education and all those I've asked we all were taught how evil and great British history is. We don't shy away.
thedarkcanuck
Victor didn't deserve that :(
nasukkin
He's not up to Pollos' standards.
TheMicktrex
Whoever spread this rumour that the UK isn't taught its own history can stop. It's not true. I do enjoy these memes though.
ChalkCoatedDonut
Los Pollos Britanos
JHRD1880
Haha yes. Just the Brits.
thecynabal
Not sure where you got this Idea in school I learned about the Massacre of Amritsar, Bloody Sunday, Mau Mau and other British shitnanigans
StreetHawk95
CRT in a nutshell
DJOldguy
Rubbish, History is never whitewashed in Britain a clear bunch of amoral murderers, liars, thieves they were, that's just the monarchs!
CplCarrot
Get the impression our history books are pretty accurate. Learned quite a bit about the crimes of the Empire. And since.
thecynabal
You miss spelt Russia
iamlegendinjapan
Misspelt
newnhb
Of the current 200 nations in the world, we British have invaded all but 22 of them. Sorry guys. 200 years ago we had anger 'issues'
JupiterMiningCorpRep
Unfortunately that statistic is just a bit misleading. The author considers that if a british soldier enters a country that its an invasion.
swedeonamoose
Britain in Swedish history books is more like a ok "friend". France is the great frenemy.
Carl99
They';e called frogs in the UK. Apologies Franc,e gotta meme on you, pretty sure there's a law about it.
TheJackKetch
In the UK a reverse victory sign (showing the back of the hand), basically means "fuck you," it comes from the 100 years wars when the /1
TheJackKetch
/2 French would cut the draw fingers off longbow archers if they caught them. Free archers would flip the French the bird with both fingers.
Clarysage
Feel like I learnt a fair bit in history class about how much of a terrible bunch of pricks we are/were to everyone.
debthepleb
Speak for your country. In mine we just had a pros and cons debate about the British Raj.
Cheomesh
Are there pros? There's got to be a few pros in there somewhere.
debthepleb
Eh, millions of lives ruined, civil war started by them before leaving, economy was in shambles. But they also built a rail network.
debthepleb
Which we were allowed to use at the time btw.
JupiterMiningCorpRep
Indian government also say that English as a universal language helped build ties between different regions of india.
debthepleb
Yep! Forgot about that one.
Zreen
Just saw that episode yesterday
teddybonkerrs
What is it from?
Dhatudhatu
Breaking Bad.
88wut
Colonizing and pillaging are lucrative endeavors.
AscensionGames
I think Malta would have put Britain as the top one once. Possibly the only country that would though.
charlie2979
Only because Napoleon conquered Malta and banned slavery. They we invaded.
AscensionGames
Oh no. The French were just unpopular and we were 1) requested to invade, 2) offered to hand it back to the former rulers but that was 1/2
AscensionGames
unpopular with the Maltese so didn't, and 3) kept the abolition on slavery which was a popular move. So no it wasn't because of slave ban2/2
Cheomesh
They did leave them that giant fuck-off cannon
Enderstotle
Both say that Britain was a phenomenal casting choice?
ElizaMDancer
Which film is this?
SnowTimeLikeNow
Breaking Bad (series)
ElizaMDancer
Oh wow. I do remember him from breaking bad (how couldn’t ? awesome series and casting yes) but I don’t remember the second scene
massholesome
When he killed his right hand man I believe start of 2nd part of final series.
ElizaMDancer
Ok. Thanks. That was a brilliant series. One of the best
OmnipotentBeing
Ding ding ding! Correct!
DavidBrooker
His ability to switch between personas was such a big part of the role, which I found really unique until seeing Adam Scott in Severance 1/2
DavidBrooker
Not to take away from either, two excellent performances. But two that I thought had interesting parallels. 2/2
minant
Did you ever see Anna Torv in Fringe?
Enderstotle
Nope, should I?
minant
It's a good show and she does a great job in it. Blurb: paranormal investigation by an agent, a mentally-damaged scientist, and his son.
kittykaroshi
I never understood this scene fully. Why do bad guys kill their loyal henchmen?
WeMistbornsNeedNotMakeSense
He was the least important person in the room and Gus really wanted to murder someone out of anger
Enderstotle
That scene could only have been the writers' mistake. Gus literally hired that guy to replace Walt
ImpliedConsent
No, he was a henchmen who was watching Walt and learned his process. You’re thinking of Gale (and Jesse to an extent).
RedBlueGreenRedBlueGreen
No he didn't. He worked for Gus in the Better Call Saul times long before Walt.
kittykaroshi
Omg so wtf then!
Enderstotle
Broadway2
Uhmm no. He hired Gale to replace Walt. That guy was just a henchman he killed to send a message.
OhSoEnglish
Yes? What's your point? Of course the other books are lying ??
Eli93
All those nations gave Britain artefacts to display in their museums, so they can't really hate them, right?
NZSheeps
They're obviously just jealous
MomofukuJones
Smh, how about some refection? England has committed numerous atrocities, not even that long ago.
OhSoEnglish
England, or Great Britain? Or the United Kingdom? Or Scotland? England's empire ended in 1707, as did Scotland's.
MomofukuJones
England - the country that dominated Great Britain. Also that is completely besides the point
OhSoEnglish
How so?
MomofukuJones
For starters England is the major economy (i.e., most of Wales was subsidised by England). London was and is the capital, with the other 1/2
OhSoEnglish
Also a country has no memory. Do you want all peoples to constantly bemoan their past? No one escapes being shitty.
MomofukuJones
Not bemoaning the past all the time... im more shocked that you would joke about it like that and that so many people would like it.
MomofukuJones
When I bet most of those people criticize the US in the same breath
OhSoEnglish
If you can't joke about it what have you left? Ernest sincerity with condemnation of all? Sounds great. Sign. Me. Up.
Hekatombe
ProfessorVanDiggenSagg
Meanwhile everywhere elsewhere within the Kingdoms
NotUSAmerican
Same goes for USA. Only country I know that's pretty honest about their history is Germany. They're literally just teach those 12 years.
DeKetsendeRechter
We get honest teachings about our countries' past in The Netherlands.
alman1234
That’s something I wouldn’t expect, I always got weird looks mentioning the holocaust at all while I was there…
MrBlueSands
Were you in a Wendy's?
alman1234
Not exactly, taxis and bars
TheFunionKnight
Dunno about USA but in UK when i was at school we studied alot of shitty behaviour to other countries and our selves
Cheomesh
Nah they have to teach a lot more than that yeah? Hell even if they want to focus on bastardly thing the 30 years war existed.
somnif
I mean, I learned about the trail of tears, the slave trade, even the Tuskegee experiments in jr high and high school.
Feralkyn
Yeah, but this WIDELY depends on your district. There's no federal curriculum, and a lot of regions whitewash it.
Feralkyn
I learned about most of this in NY and found out, to my vast disappointment, that a lot of places *don't* teach it.
somnif
ah true, unfortunately (grew up in East LA, for context)
JackHL01
Hence our hesitation about Ukraine . . .
Feralkyn
Oof, yeah. Germany needs to step up its game there.
Feralkyn
At least oil's gonna... eventually... get the ban
JackHL01
We are on it, but get as busy with you extremely bloody and extremly cruel history and maybe you'd have a easier time understanding us.
Feralkyn
I'm not sure what you mean by that? I do live here mind
JackHL01
me too, up north.
BaconAlmighty
Kinda like America too
lilmookie
I would have been very upset if I had been able to read.
Jheklstuff
America: I learned it from watching you!
alman1234
Funny how the UK just exports assholes as perceived by other countries in general
popejubal
Lol. As if there would be a black man in an American history book.
barrocoyote
Let me guess, you aren't American.
Cheomesh
I'm a Marylander; we have several famous blacks from here.
FlintNorth44
I learned about Frederick Douglass and MLK Jr.
Enderstotle
Name one thing America ever did wrong.
PicassoCT
Iraq war, but why stop there. And there is more to come as empire culture eats the democracy up
Enderstotle
Jesus that was obvious irony... you must be on the spectrum not to realize it.
Enderstotle
Found a photo of you browsing imgur
Enderstotle
You downvoted me from your mistake. "Name one thing America ever did wrong" is as obvious a joke as "Name one thing Germany ever did wrong."
Enderstotle
Zapper83
You
Enderstotle
You downvoted me. Just because you can't recognize sarcasm. "Name one thing America ever did wrong" You: *gasp* Doesn't he know history???
Enderstotle
Found a picture of you
Enderstotle
Enderstotle
I'm Canadian. We specialize in quirky comedy
Mysticalmuffet
Nope hard disagree In History in England we learn how much of a bastard England was to England. Bloody England. Ruining it for the English!
Aksuuuh
Nowadays you settle ruining everyone's day on a holiday.
newnhb
Brothers and sisters are natural enemies! Like Englishmen and Scots! Or Japanese and Scots! Or Scots and other Scots! Damn Scots!
TheRicM
Did you learn how much of a bastard England was to other countries, not just to England?
CanOnlySayYes
Nope. We mostly learnt about America’s segregation for some reason. The only british module we had was about ppganda in WW2.
TheFunionKnight
Yeah I finished school in 2003 and we did slave trade, Indias road to independence, fall of the empire, as well as WWI and ii,
TheFunionKnight
Rise of nazi Germany, 1930s America, civil rights UK + US, fall of the Soviet Union oh and causes of strife in the middle East (UK France)
themagicalliopleurodon
Anything about ireland?
ZeroaFFXIV
Learned about Cromwell etc but not the more recent history from the 80s and 90s, but I graduated 2006 so may be different now.
JohnMike64
We finish mandatory education at 18 there isn't time for that. All you get is Britain Vs it's self & Europe and even most of that is notes
TheRicM
Dude that’s
v
JustAFlamingoInDisguise
Mandetory education in UK ends at 16? Sixth form/college was still optional last I checked?
JohnMike64
Nope been mandatory 18 for England since 2015
JustAFlamingoInDisguise
Fair enough. I learnt something new today. England did their own thing. But for the rest of UK its still 16.
IamTheBritishEmpire
As a history teacher I always cover the empire's actions in India and Australia. As well as our role in slavery and also jack the ripper.
JustAFlamingoInDisguise
We do. We learn a pretty broad mix of history, including world history and political history, and its not sugar coated etc
argentinaturnerprize
im glad to hear this as when i went through school (left in 2006) we learned about some of it but with such a glorifying tone that...
argentinaturnerprize
...ive spent a lot of the years since discovering new horrors almost by the month!
JustAFlamingoInDisguise
I left school 2003, had a very different experience, maybe the teacher/school /teaching board makes the difference?
roneyBugPrince
Not sure why your being downvoted. You are absolutely correct
always1haveparis
Yes. I finished secondary in 2011 and covered the Atlantic slave trade, Mughal empire, East India, and China/opium. All factual and balanced
doublewoot
They teach ya about Ireland?
always1haveparis
Yes
always1haveparis
Among other periods/regions
TheRicM
Thx for the info, good to know
wwilddoge
Can second this. Finished normal secondary school in 2008 and did higher education history. Our curriculum was very balanced.
argentinaturnerprize
ya see i finished in 2006 so our curriculum must have been similar and i would strongly (but respectfully) disagree! tbh your use of the...
argentinaturnerprize
...word 'balanced' makes me think of the old 'but we made trains in india' kind of things i left school with in my head.