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#PoliceBrutality #Current_Events #the_more_you_know
Edit: link to story with much more extensive body cam video starting earlier. https://www.pilotonline.com/news/crime/vp-nw-windsor-police-20210408-a4ynzlmqpjgq3a755hlgpk4qqe-story.html . Thank you @DoubleDonkked
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
PourMeAPuppersPlease
Dougiefreshwater
"You should be" power trip much
makeiteasykeepitsleazy
“You’re gonna ride the lighting.”
brickforpresident
Not to mention "you received an order, follow it" like dude you're a fucking beat cop
jeffpesos
"You should be! We totally lack training and our institution has been instrumentalized to repress poverty for years! Now GET ON THE GROUND!"
Kittynomnoms
Should grounds for prison if you ask me. Consequences for abusing authority.
captainswoopty
Fuck the police
CommodusLeitdorf
ACAB all day
Tovarish1013
Plenty of good, decent cops. Even those that take action and stand against police abuse at personal cost. Generalizations like these only
Tovarish1013
Stoop you down to the level of these racist POS who only see us VS them
KellyCrazyCatLadyinTraining
What is ACAB? ... “All Cops Are Bad?” ... because my DARE officer was a pretty cool dude and I saw him again a decade later and he was 1/2
KellyCrazyCatLadyinTraining
STILL cool in my book. I like cops; then again, I’m a pretty, young, white, American female, so there’s that.
andychristman2000
Pretty much , if I saw a blue boy getting stomped out in a ditch I would smile and keep driving.
ChrisYourself
Dirty fucking cops
ImgurPlz
all cops are bastards #ACAB
ForceAwakenWasLame
Obietrice
I fucking love this mentality: “why did you pepper spray him?” “Because he wouldn’t get out of the car” “why where you trying to get him out
BSwann
Penn v Mimms if a cop orders you out the car after a traffic stop you have to do it, may not like it but that's what SCOTUS decided.
J4nein4ne
Ooh, BUDDY, you are wrong as FUCK!
J4nein4ne
followup: BS wann is an appropriate username, in this instance.
12700CheeseGamer
If a cop asks me out sure. You point a gun at me? Arms out the window and I’m not moving shit. I’m not going to get shot for reaching
phtsl
Damn right. People opening the door using the outside handle get shot for reaching for a gun that's not there. Add to it my car will not...
phtsl
Open from the outside if it detects you are siting in the seat. It's an anti car jacking feature.
LtheGreatest
Penn vs mimms was regarding finding a weapon during the course of a legit traffic stop expired plates. No parallels with this incident
cump
Frankly I was worried the cop would shoot him for getting out. The cop sounded like he was struggling to control his own mind.
Obietrice
of the car” “umm. You’re under arrest.”
makeiteasykeepitsleazy
He immediately switched to “you’re being detained”. Yeah cause they had absolutely nothing.
DuelingBrothers
“I made the decision to release him without any charges,” his report said. “The reason for this decision is simple;"
DuelingBrothers
"the military is the only place where double jeopardy applies. Meaning that whatever happened in civil court"
DuelingBrothers
"the military could still take action against him. Being a military vet, I did not want to see his career ruined over one decision.”
SisterMidnight
I noticed that too.
iHateMyselfButIHateYouMore
All cops are bastards because they force the "good guys" out
TheBelcherKids
ghoulee
Fuck the police!
Apeofdeath
Any cop that think this behavior is ok, are bad cops and need to be fired
PrisonGuard
As a cop and veteran I agree with this 100% this video is disgusting and those two cops deserve to be behind bars. Fucking pieces of shit
SisterMidnight
Agreed
Mostlydeadpool
and put on a federal list so they just don't go down the road and get a job in the next town over.
Thelrishlnquistion
America is too fractured. I don’t know why the hell every fucking garden shed in the middle of nowhere needs it’s own police force.
Mostlydeadpool
Yep. economy of scale is pretty bad here. too many layers to stop things from changing.
Thelrishlnquistion
DoctorFreakenstein
Out of a cannon...into the sun
prettydumb
ooo someones coming around
hairlessOrphan
Every cop thinks this is ok. At best, some pretend to be bothered by this, but you can't ever find them when it counts in court.
Seanspeed
Go look at any cop forum online. They ALWAYS back the cop in any situation, no matter how horrible.
Thelrishlnquistion
This. ACAB. Every. Single. One.
Mostlydeadpool
actually, I think that police brutality should be made a felony. it's abuse of position and responsibility. they go to jail for a year >
jmuije
Anyone in a position of power that abuses that power to harm another individual deserves a shit ton more time in jail than one year.
Mostlydeadpool
>and then lose their guns. which means they can't be a cop. ever. anywhere.
flamingflamingo
Its a slippery slope. On the one hand you want to curb unnecessary violence. On the other you don't want to make them afraid to do their job
Mostlydeadpool
the whole "afraid" thing is bullshit. unless there's a gun involved, two fully trained armored and armed cops have nothing to fear from >
Mostlydeadpool
>any individual civilian. Most people can't/won't fight off 2 others, much less two trained/armed individuals. its a complete cop out. (ha!)
UnspokenX
Every other country on earth that isn't oozing corruption can do this without an issue.
flamingflamingo
Other countries on earth also ooze corruption, just not in this area. I'm not saying we're great, just that the solution isn't easy.
probablyobvious
You say that, but if fuck up at work I am gonna get fired as well and my fuck ups don't involve beating people half to death
flamingflamingo
I do think police in America are overly aggressive. But I resign to the fact that the solution is not simple.
JoJotarot
Remember kids, when people say cops dont need body cams, it's so footage like this doesn't get out.
SuperBeetle76
I haven’t ever heard that argument - the one I hear is we can’t ‘afford’ them.
azgrak
This is also why police pension funds need to be liable for there officers actions. Things would change immediately.
MaraSovsFeet
Cops aren't people they're cockroaches and it's RAID time
Lurkninja
He's black though?! /s
JohnnyTwoDog
I don’t know anyone who says that
Lethous
It’s why I bought stock in axon
backrideup9
My first thought after reading the story was why did this footage get released? This is the kind of footage that gets "corrupted" or "lost".
CraftyGiant
because the military guy ALSO has a recording of this so they can't pretend it didn't happen.
swanglemydangle
The police told him if he made this a big deal they would charge him. Weird how extortion from a cop is legal.
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
And they can lie to you all they want in trying to "investigate" but if you lie to them? Whoa boy, it's gonna get ugly fast.
MetalGreymon
Everyone should have dashcams. Even if it only catches the audio it can swing a case in situations like this.
CraftyGiant
From what i read he turned his phone to record and tossed it on his dashboard as they pulled him over. but yes.
BioGoji1989
This is why those laws passed in Maryland recently are so important. They make body cam footage mandatory.
AvocadoHouse
I record all interactions. A cop stopped me after walking out of a grocery store with groceries in hand because I fit a description. POC in
AvocadoHouse
Mostly white neighborhood. He started to get aggressive after I was pissed asking what is going on. I pulled out my phone and started
AvocadoHouse
Recording and he got friendlier. I had a hooded Hurley sweater(not on) & slacks. After realizing I wasn’t the car burglar, he proceeded to
AvocadoHouse
Tell me my choice of attire could look suspicious. Leather dress shoes, slacks, button up shirt, and a hooded sweater cuz it was cold & I
AvocadoHouse
was out of work and needed groceries. The world is completely different when you’re a POC in America. People don’t realize this.
thegregorious
Places cops have cams see a decrease in excessive use of force complaints... like it can save $$ why don’t all departments use em?? Hmm
therealpyroman
My dad's department didn't see any decrease in claims but 99% of claims were refuted in court instead of settled cuz video evidence.
MetalGreymon
Because then they would have to hire new uncorrupted cops.
kodiak931155
I have an actual answer. I was part of a pilot program in a canadian prison that wore them. I loved em because it could refute any lie
kodiak931155
Or alligation i had come my way. And it help drive out/charge any dirt bag that managed to become an officer. The problem came when we had
kodiak931155
To archive organize and store thousands of hours of video a day. And any time a video request was made by the court we couldnt just send
kodiak931155
Over the whole file. We had to edit out everything that wasnt shareable due to privacy laws. Now do that for every person invovled in the
TheWarHymn
Chandraven
They yell at him to get out, he states he's afraid to get out, then they say he's right to be afraid. Wtf kind of mind games is that shit?
RebelSkull
Standard cop mind games. Do what they say and they may still shoot you. Happens a lot in my town.
AlabasterSexington
And now conservatives can be like
drunkenvalley
inb4 they dig up some jaywalking misdemeanor from 1996 or something.
deadman320
"A ex-con had officers fearing for their lives" -fox news probably
drunkenvalley
Going by the cunts in the comments, they're claiming he was "evading police"... ? Why do I have a lingering suspicion they're full of shit..
superscout0233
Oh he’s a minority. It’s an easy choice for them.
WowSoSparkly
jUSt foLLOw tHE COmmanDs
Commstech123
Well, as a conservative, I find the police in this video to be completely at fault and should go to jail. Any reason I wouldn’t?
dotnetbeast
As someone who isn't a conservative, it's the optic. You'll have to blame those that saw nothing wrong with what happened on Jan. 6th.
Commstech123
That’s such a flawed argument. I’m not calling out all Democrats because of the optic of rioting in Portland. Identity politics sucks.
Commstech123
I would view those who see the optic that happened on Jan 6 as the entirety of conservatives as narrow minded tribalists.
dotnetbeast
I agree. Trust me.
JohnnyTwoDog
That’s a false choice. No conservatives be like that. Troops matter and Blue Lives matter. These two don’t qualify as blue lives.
TheAlphaHowl
Bro this is Imgur. It's the cool thing to label ~half the voting population with every negative noun in the dictionary. No matter how stupid
AntonioStark
Honest question. Because of their actions? Unfortunately, isn't every LEOA an ambassador to the career? How do you excise these two?
YouMadeMeLogInForThis
Lmao what. They'll defend the cops saying "we don't know the whole story" and find the one time this black LT jaywalked as evidence of evil
CokieMonster69
They'll 100% fuck over the military. They only 'like' the military when it's convenient for their agenda
kissmine2000
Yup. This right here.
morelikeconsham
What they actually like is nationalist propaganda, and the military is an important facet of that effort.
Floofyboi318
Not in my case, my parents are radical conservative republicans and after seeing this case they threw away all our “blue lives mater” flags
Floofyboi318
In their words “it’s one thing to arrest someone with a criminal record, you can justify that. You can’t justify the unlawful arrest of
Floofyboi318
Uniformed defender of freedom who’s on his way to a promotion. I trust his statement more than I’ll trust any cops”
CokieMonster69
I hope so, as a vet when Trump shit on the Gold Star family and McCain, I lost all respect for GOP
Duuuudewhy
There's a pecking order for them, if you're not a white cop or vet then you don't qualify for the same respect they like to claim. IMO
Dustorm
Well... they also only like the police when it fits their agenda so I think it's a toss up.
Dustorm
Given the race of the individuals involved I think I know which way they'll lean.
DVSBSTrD
JamesAHarrod
Fooby
shrug. we taught the krauts, they just ran with it.
iHateMyselfButIHateYouMore
DarthVaderDidNothingWrong
The shouty cop sounds like he's on coke. Unprofessional, a huge chip on his shoulder, armed and aggressive. FFS
Stefnos
He sounds like he should be holding a box of donuts
PigsWeGetWhatPigsDeserve
My first thought.
KoalaOnTheJuice
I've never known a cokehead be as much of a prick as this. And that's saying something cos I used to know a few of those dickheads.
Thelrishlnquistion
He’s a worthless fat bastard with a tiny penis who’s having an inadequacy attack upon seeing a better man in a more prestigious uniform.
Tall4APanda
Dam.
sieg443130
The younger cop is looking at the older cop like “What the fuck is wrong with you man?”
mcglirkymeow
And: Fat and miserable with low self-esteem, so he uses violent tactics to make himself feel better.
cptcr
i think that's the more accurate take.
krissypoojackets
Probably is. He obviously has no respect for anything, rules, other humans ect. This makes me hate all cops, cause it makes me not trust any
lordofpoultry
And the kid with him doesn’t seem like he’s capable of thought...I’m not being mean, he genuinely seems challenged and unfit for duty
IAkuTheShapeShiftingMasterofDarkness
Time to take him to the vet.
ActionJohnnie
iHateMyselfButIHateYouMore
Oh, look at the fancy city folk with their fancy animal doctors. Just take old yeller out back like we used to do
RammOverland
"Unprofessional, a huge chip on his shoulder, armed and aggressive" is a great description of 99% of footage I see featuring American cops.
luciferousthefallen0
Coked up cops are super common.
CatskinnerKeen
Sauce?
ActionJohnnie
No. Coke
luciferousthefallen0
Drug abuse statistic for police are pretty easy to find
iHateMyselfButIHateYouMore
Roid rage is also very common among pigs
WowSoSparkly
Thelrishlnquistion
Roid rage, cocaine...having a tiny dick...very bad combinations for a so called peace officer.
culinarydream7224
The young one doesn't really look like he knows why he's doing what he's doing either. He keeps looking at the other guy and mirrors him...
mcglirkymeow
Yup, thought the same. I feel bad for him, he’s a green rookie.
AlphaVirus2g
Both his body language and word usage indicate he doesn't agree with what's happening, but continues against his better judgement. It's sad.
Account3577
Completely complicit but, like, really sad about it. A typical "Good Cop".
AintNoRestForTheWookie
Reminds me of the movie Training Day, kind of. Rookie gets tossed into a situation he didn't expect to deal with and has to roll with it or>
AintNoRestForTheWookie
> face the consequences once back at the station. Good ol boy bullshit corruption at its finest.
culinarydream7224
...like a child. A bunch of toxic police culture later and a new shit cop is born
Kittynomnoms
A bunch? Seems like it only takes a bit.
GerbilHereReportingLiveFromRichardGeresAss
It's exactly what I noticed too. He's looking at the older cop like he's being taught.
rollerskateorgies
You have to be carefully taught.
Soberyn
My SO got harassed by cops and he is pretty sure they were "training" a newbie how to lie.
Thelrishlnquistion
FisterMantastic
That is the face of someone who is completely ok with what they are doing and damn near enjoying it. FFS.
Deadmedic
My take, (based solely on the guys actions here) dude was probably denied military service, was offended at a poc in uniform
Thelrishlnquistion
itsthebarrelbombdotcom
Ironically, the main offending officer was both a vet and a POC of latino descent. Just a run of the mill asshole abusing their power.
Thelrishlnquistion
Sadly there’s a well known trend of cops of colour being even worse than the white ones. Showing up as it were.
SirSandwich
Ice cube told us about this a long time ago. “Black police showing off the white cops”...
TheActualDonKnotts
Believe it or not, a lot of people with latino/hispanic last names will carry dixie flags and attend white pride shit.
TePDM
Some latinos try to pass as white.... this is the world.
mycomplex
Some Latinos are white.
itsthebarrelbombdotcom
And a lot of latinos are white. Skin color in relation to ethnicity is a spectrum and has nuance. It’s not recommended to use a broad brush.
ArciePanda
He was actually a Vet. Im guessing he was discharged for medical reasons or something.
PicassoCT
Police violence at a Checkpoint?
Thelrishlnquistion
And you know what that medical reason was? He got so fat his width became greater than his height and he burst out of his flak jacket.
Brettkeen
Why are WE being treated this way.
JuxtaposeIsANeatWord
His dog was in a crate in the car and inhaled some of the mace. I was already mad. But I’m like so up upset now.
Sonicschilidogs
Be more upset about the people than the damn dog
JuxtaposeIsANeatWord
Have you ever heard the term “the straw that broke the camels back”? Apply it here. It’s the total sum of the event.
INeedToChangeMyUsername
I'm from the UK and it shocks me that anyone could think that a gun is an appropriate response to a traffic violation. It's a missing plate!
JohnnyTwoDog
You don’t have to be from the UK to know that.
thesmelge
A missing plate that isn't even missing.
INeedToChangeMyUsername
"Hi, your plate seems to be missing." "I have a temporary one in the window." "Oh! My bad. On you go."
fathogwrestler
That would have been much more appropriate, but it wouldn't be "on you go"... still a ticket. At least a warning.
Seanspeed
UK cops aren't perfect, but I dont ever feel uncomfortable around them like I did when I lived in the US. Massive difference in behavior.
StSword1
US cops are generally taught that everyone is out to kill them. So yes, how sick is it that they think traffic stops are worth risking life?
poggerswoggersdoggers42
These are american cops, we can't trust them
uponstrangeshores
yankee18
Why do we train customer service reps better then police officers to deal with escalation?
KennyBlankenshipandVicRomano
Because customer service employees are held accountable for escalating altercations
JohnnyTwoDog
Ha!
cptcr
i can sue a company
mindstorm8191
And reps can be fired at even the possibility of a lawsuit
JohnnyTwoDog
Have you dealt with customer service lately? They are masters at escalating and baiting customers
SirSandwich
Who are you talking to?
Seanspeed
99% of customer service reps are not hostile/antagonistic at all. Incompetend/ignorant, maybe. But not hostile.
CycloneSP
only for customers that piss us off ;)
1plail
Racist, hillbilly pieces of human garbage.
MonetaryPolicyAct1913
When I read it, I would like let me guess, it is some backward rural town. And yup, it is indeed another uneducated racist rural area.
Nakahana
Not all hillbillies are racist. A lot are, but not all.
bugcooper
you are confusing red necks and hillbillies lol
ImANurse
Hillbilly Gutierrez
itsthebarrelbombdotcom
Don’t come in here and ruin the knee jerk analysis with facts like that
ratfaceddog
TF is with the “hillbilly” shit? That area of VA is nowhere near the hills.
DukeofKMS
But there might be billies around, so it’s partially correct.
igotyouundermyskin
ratfaceddog
Those of us from southern Appalachia refer to ourselves as hillbillies, but in context, it’s equating racism and ignorance with a region 1/
ratfaceddog
the town in the OP isn’t even part of. So-called “hillbillies” didn’t have shit to do with this particular east coast fuckery.
aintnothinbutahounddog28
Ah yes, the Appalachias. A well known breeding ground for equality and inclusion and forward leaning modern social concepts ?
itsthebarrelbombdotcom
Racist and human garbage? Sure. Hillbilly? Not likely. Officer Gutierrez was the main offender and of latino descent and not a hillbilly.
Chimponaut
There are plenty of Americans with Hispanic heritage who 100% identify as white.
ratfaceddog
And there are “hillbillies” (i.e. people from the Appalachian Mountains) who aren’t white. The bigotry in the OP is racist. The “ignorant
ratfaceddog
hillbilly” bigotry is classist.
itsthebarrelbombdotcom
Sure, but do they identify as hillbillies? Who are mostly of scotch-Irish descent in southern Appalachia?
ratfaceddog
*Scots-Irish. Scotch is whisky. And while Southern Appalachia isn’t the most diverse region, it’s not exclusively white. There’s a big
itsthebarrelbombdotcom
Semantics, Scotch-Irish is accepted use for the US. Like debating soccer vs football. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch-Irish_Americans
ratfaceddog
difference between “identifying as a hillbilly” and being called a hillbilly by an outsider, at any rate.
aintnothinbutahounddog28
Damn who knew there were so many thin skinned snowflake hillbillies on here ready to get furiously angry over almost nothing to prove they
aintnothinbutahounddog28
aren't violent or hateful?? Good lord there's plenty of shitty ppl where I'm from, and the ONLY ppl that get offended by a reference to
aintnothinbutahounddog28
the general shittiness are those that contribute the most to it
itsthebarrelbombdotcom
Ironically, I think it’s more that you’re ascribing blame to a group of people who had nothing to do with the offense. Officer Gutierrez...
aintnothinbutahounddog28
Yes I definitely did that. Despite my user name being different than the one on the comment that was me. Good job. I'm sure none of you have
itsthebarrelbombdotcom
No, youre just the one who doubled down on it. And I do my best not to paint anyone in broad brush strokes. Especially so for marginalized->
itsthebarrelbombdotcom
Populations. I’m just pointing out why people might be offended, since it’s mischaracterizing the actions of a non member of a group for ->
aintnothinbutahounddog28
every used a general term as a stereotype when something bad happens. Like thug, or inner city. I bet not one of you would have commented
aintnothinbutahounddog28
angrily if someone called a black person in a video being violent and crazy a thug
TheGrayBox
Appalachians aren’t inherently racist.
GrandPoobahDeDoinkOfAllOfThisAndThat
No one is. It's a learned and trained set of behaviors and beliefs that just happen to be more common in some places and groups than others.
datphone777365
Careful @ratfaceddog might take offense to that and call ya an arrogant classist prick!
ratfaceddog
If the shoe fits.
datphone777365
Btw(see what i did there?) Did ya try reading that lil article i sent yet? The bit with whitesburg in letcher county?
datphone777365
By thoroughly trained for it?
ratfaceddog
What? You want to try phrasing that coherently?
datphone777365
Nah plenty of others got it just fine, not gona hand hold ya.
ratfaceddog
I got it just fine, despite your inability to distinguish “by” from “but.” You’re just another classist bigot disparaging a region and
Dovaskus
Yep southerns are very indoctrinated. My great grandmother was super racist. That pretty much died with her. Thankfully.
Skilgannon92
Guns pulled for a traffic violation? Wtf is going on anymore?
BSwann
Standard felony traffic stop procedure since it's a country where anyone could be armed.
jmuije
US Cops + black people = guns drawn
InboxMeYourHDGIFs
I know this is a serious post, but I like how in #2 at 12 seconds, you can see the cop hitting his legs to get him on the ground, but the Lt
InboxMeYourHDGIFs
is just barely budging. Like, he's even been pepper sprayed and he's able to passively resist so well.
IKissedAGuyNoHomo
They make you recite something while in a chamber filled with tear gas in basic training. Pepper spray is nothing
ilhares
Former instructor we had at our range would take it from students and spray himself like it was cologne. Classroom cleared but he was fine.
NoGunsNoCats
Is this America? What a shit hole.
KanyesGayFish
Fuck off. Every country has bad people, not every country manages to record and upload them. No citizen thinks this is acceptable.
DiesOnLoadingScreen
It's a Developing country.. Give it time.
vietnameseCowboy
I like the violent history in our nation excuse.
LunaticLegostone
They had their time. There has been no development for decades. Admit America is a failed experiment, dismantle it and start all over again.
Jimmyb3121
Why the fuck would they treat it like a felony stop just cuz there was no license plate in the holder?? That’s a drastic escalation of force
Starhaven350
Insane escalation. Weapons drawn yelling and aggression. Ridiculous
ObscureReferencing
Because they have seen more cops on TV than training exercises
Fargus57
I've been stopped for the exact same thing. Was never asked to get out of my car and was issued a citation. No guns drawn, no pepper (1/2)
Fargus57
spray. All the cop (singular) said was that I need to have the temp tag affixed on the outside of the car. Then again, I'm white. (2/2)
dougg76
I am not sure, but I think he refused to pull over and kept going until he was at the gas station. Still unjustified force though.
AngLaceAndWhiskey
He dared to be Black while driving in the jurisdiction of White cops who couldn't have hacked Basic training. Also, they're racist cunts
dougg76
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/police-accused-threatening-pulling-gun-black-army-lieutenant-during-virginia-n1263731
IsntThatOdd
The felony stop would be due to him continuing to drive to a gas station.
Bombpier
You are legally allowed to do that ya boot licker
IsntThatOdd
46.2-829 "driver of every other vehicle shall, as quickly as traffic and other highway conditions permit, drive to the nearest edge of..."
IsntThatOdd
the roadway, clear of any intersection of highways, and stop and remain there" I don't see permission to pick a spot a mile down the road.
Bombpier
Other highway conditions includes unsafe area to stop in..
sleepy9612
Yeah except he slowed down and turned on his turn signal. He didn't just continue driving as if the cops weren't there.
OhNoDontTouch
that's not illegal.
Fargus57
Police had a TV info campaign here telling drivers if they feel unsafe being pulled over, drive to a well lit area/police station to stop
IsntThatOdd
Then the police are in trouble.
Lichelf
Oh no, 3 weeks paid vacation for both?
Fargus57
No. There was a rash of car theft/abduction attempts where criminals were using fake police lights to pull over victims.
IsntThatOdd
Virginia what is you doing
ErinInStereo
If you draw a gun on an Army Lieutenant, you're a special kind of stupid.
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RobearGWJ
Uh... That's not how that works... Soldiers aren't supermen.
ShiaLeboufski
Why?
gothicloli
You do know anyone can buy an army uniform, while the cops should have asked for DoD ID, the fact hes in unoform is irrelevant.
fathogwrestler
You just assume stolen Valor?
gothicloli
Seen weirder larp around.
RobearGWJ
And if he reaches for his ID, who do you think is gonna get shot?
imherenowitsok
You should NEVER feel scared to deal with police. They are there to protect you. The fact that he said "you should be" is horribly wrong.
ilhares
They are absolutely not ever there to protect you. That is not their role in society.
RebelSkull
They are NOT there to protect you. They are there to build a case for the state AG.
imherenowitsok
Cops are like a coin, there are two sides. Protection and enforcement. To deny the other side is silly
Bhargo
if you aren't scared of police, you haven't been paying attention to them for the last few decades
AngLaceAndWhiskey
Or you're White
imherenowitsok
I said you shouldn't, the fact that people are is a problem
edtumb
What’s wrong with the cops. Are they human? They can’t even communicate properly. Why are they so enraged!? Are they adults!? Dude...
brownribbon
C students in high school, at best.
duhqueenmoki
As a teacher, cops come from generally the bullies who lack basic social and communication skills as kids. They crave argumentation
CokieMonster69
Culture of "rather judged by 9 than carried by 6." Spin themselves into paranoia, plus some are racist, bullies, dumb, immature, etc
Bhargo
they are trained to escalate, they are taught that everyone is trying to kill them and they have to kill them first if they want to survive
Bhargo
they are also taught they are a supreme authority and anyone not immediately obeying is disrespecting them and should be punished.
AccordingToYourMom
.... they’re cops.
sdv325
Part of me thinks that a lot of highschool bullies and very aggressive people that use their size to dominate others become cops, this guy
sdv325
shows a lot of the same behavior as a childish bully, gun drawn on a routine traffic stop? My city police (Calgary AB) would destroy this
sdv325
cop for un holstering their weapon with cause or justification. Too bad America doesn't see the same way
phtsl
Americans do for the most part. It's out leaders that ignore us. We are a third world country
sdv325
Sad part is, just like Charles Barkley said . The "leaders", Dems or Rep, the Rich keep things this way to establish the control they LOVE
Ripper25992
Why in the hell is their Guns drawn,when both his hands are out the window??
itsimpossibletofindausernamethatisnttaken
He didn't immediately pull over, he chose to go down the street a bit into a well lit, public area. I absolutely understand why.
Gotnobrain
As is your right. No excuse for this type of treatment; police power is unchecked.
CharCarson
I'm hoping you meant that you understand why he went to a well lit, public area. You could also be supporting the drawn guns.
BSwann
Guns drawn is just a standard felony traffic stop.
itsimpossibletofindausernamethatisnttaken
That is precisely what I meant. Maybe should have phrased it better, hard with 140 characters.
DownVoteVerifier
It was fine, good use of commas and full stops.
funnyguy10
I like how the younger cop is looking at the fat asshole cop and wondering WTF are you doing.
enkrypt3d
well the younger guy actually had a gun. the old guy had a stun gun...
lordofpoultry
It seemed to me like he was taking the fat cops lead. Watching the bad apple infect the bunch
Passion4Pets4Life233
I understand that he is probably a rookie and not following superior is insubordination but at this point you gotta speak up
AnnieBahde
I got the same impression. That he seemed to realize this was bad and yet... he didn’t stop it!
RenegadeSci
"Thin Blue Line"
ransomjelly
Yes, his partner looked more afraid than guy in car
Tovarish1013
Reminds me of the two brand new rookie cops with Derek. Seems to me the older cops tend to be more aggressive either to posture in front of
Tovarish1013
Rookies or to break them into the dog eats dog mentality.
DeadpoolsBathtub
Yeah the older cops gotta teach the new generation how to properly abuse authority and suppress the minorities
DeadpoolsBathtub
#allcopsarebastards is because this behavior is 100% systemic and anyone who crosses the line gets punished for being the one good cop
GadenKerensky
I believe I heard the phrase 'there are no good cops, only bad cops and fired cops.' And the actual good cops out there, uncommon as they >
GadenKerensky
may seem, probably can't do their job as well as they could because people are rightfully mistrustful of the police, if not outright afraid.
CokieMonster69
You're naive to think he has an option. They'd either fire him or reprise him into quitting if he intervened
AnnieBahde
I agree the whole system is a problem but seeing abuse and malfeasance and doing nothing belies the “bad apples” theory. Until and unless
AnnieBahde
the good apples start doing objecting nothing can change. He’s complicit.
CokieMonster69
It doesn't work that way. Rookie martyrs won't change anything. Real legislation from the outside is the only way
KingdomOfDimensions
He's in a career where he'll face much worse than possibly losing his job. If he can't do the right thing in this situation he never will.
zeroofshadow
so the choices are do the right thing or be a bad cop? so your saying he chose to be a bad cop then.
CokieMonster69
Those are his options. Lose your job after significant gas lighting or assimilate. Solutions are union busting, outside oversight, and 1)
zeroofshadow
so he chose to be a bad cop then, is what your saying? he chose the option to be compliant? thats a bad cop.
CokieMonster69
2) real whistle blower protections
TheQuietHunter
We need to fire about half our cops. The profession is over run with garbage.
ShiaLeboufski
Fire all the cops, let America be free and either be destroyed in a glorious hell fire or usher in a new and better society
Seanspeed
We need a police force. People dont realize how much shitty people are only held back by threat of consequence.
certainlynotaserialkiller
make that 90%. and that is being extremely generous.
jmuije
I was gonna say, we need to fire a lot fucking more than half. Anyone wearing a badge needs to be standing in the unemployment line.
LunaticLegostone
Fire all of them, then implement strict guidelines for recruiting and better training, so the good ones can reenter. If that leads to (1)
LunaticLegostone
only a fraction of the police force remaining, admit the American system is a failed experiment.
cptcr
the USA is over run with garbage. there is a serious self-esteem issue going on with far too many people.
CokieMonster69
Clean fucking house. Only way to get rid of rot
Mostlydeadpool
okay. sure. how do you keep sure the new crop of cops arn't also bastards.
PoeticSoul
Education requirements including social services education/de-escalation, a civilian oversight board made for members of the public they -
PoeticSoul
serve, ending of qualified immunity, and in my wildest dreams, losing their pensions if it becomes clear they didn’t report a bad apple.
Sami2025
Require vaccinations.
epibase
Instead of low having a maximum IQ for joining the force, maybe have a high minimum IQ
bellona0544
Maximum IQ is stupid and dangerous, but so is minimum. IQ tests historically have been used to exclude minorities.
mindstorm8191
We MUST remain vigilant. It is the only way.
CokieMonster69
The military has had to reinvent itself 100x over. It's too complicated for 200 characters, but definitely possible
Mostlydeadpool
different job. cops aren't for killing people. cops should be for dispute resolutions and first responders. need more specialists.
CokieMonster69
Not really. As a civil engineer combat veteran, the military's role encompasses a far wider scope
OdinParkour
Deplorable. People get pissed when I say ACAB but I've yet to see evidence towards the contrary
SaintCody
Cops doing their job right doesn't make front page. Doesnt make news. Nobody cares. But when shit like this happens it's everywhere.
SaintCody
There are plenty of bad cops doing plenty of horrible things, but to act like they ALL are bad is just willful ignorance and stupid.
BioGoji1989
What does ACAB mean anyway?
RadioSilenceDW
All Cops Are Bastards.
JohnnyTwoDog
Yes you have. You’ve seen good cops too. But there are still too many guys like this
Mostlydeadpool
Nice cops doing their job don't make good clicks. it's not just cops. its everyone. nice doesn't sell unless it's a kitten in a tree.
Bhargo
assholes working at the grocery store dont get away with murdering people
CokieMonster69
Nobody sees the good, normal interactions. The issue is stuff like this gets exposed, they blatantly don't hold themselves accountable
jmuije
The "Good, normal" interactions are window dressing for the fact that not one single cop will try to stop this behavior. They will join in.
StephenDaniels
Name any mass murderer or serial killer that didn't participate in tens of thousands of good normal interactions with other people.
Seanspeed
Everybody has dealt with cops with some normal interaction. But the bad stuff is bad enough that the 'normal' stuff doesn't give them a pass
drunkenvalley
Nobody CARES about the normal interactions until we fix them MURDERING PEOPLE at will.
FrankJustice1
There are no normal interactions with someone who can kill you on a whim with zero repercussions.
CokieMonster69
JFC, I'm not making excuses for cops, read my whole comment
pitchickadee
What is acab?
EndlessTrash
He's Captain Ahab's shitty little bastard brother.
OdinParkour
It stands for "all cops are bastards"
pitchickadee
I could get on board with necymiab. Or maybe mcab for short
Crippling
one bad apple, with no attempts to remove it or disavow it, ruins the bunch. the "good" cops stand silent and the "bad" cops get away scot
Crippling
free. bad cops literally protested a cop being fires for violating the law last year
realrealluckless
I support ACAB not because I think all cops are violent murderers or anything, but because cops see cops doing this and say nothing.
Seanspeed
That is exactly the whole premise behind 'ACAB'. It's an institutional problem.
OdinParkour
Well yeah, they're bastards. Silence in support of 'the brotherhood' is support for these violent actions. No one and keeps checks on cops
BlairT1
All cops are in a terrible, garbage system, whether or not they themselves are good or shit humans like these asshats
realrealluckless
They are the system. Failure to apply pressure to improve the system is squarely on them first and foremost.