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"Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration."
—Abraham Lincoln
memeseeks
Capitalism is dependent on slave labor.
makesense
So that's why they renamed Human Resources to Human Capital.
0plus1plus0
A nation's true wealth is in it's labor force.
thornus67
PraiseTheMachineGod
I guess those Soviet anti-capitalist posters were too much ahead of their time.
AmArschdieRaeuber
that's actually how I feel. Without the fucking soviet union, workplace democracy would be a popular idea. They really besmirched the idea.
RazorAndBladeSavedTheDay
Really puts it all in perspective when we see politicians refusing to labor
CommanderShitFace
Listen guys the Golden age was when the boss pissed off the workers his fucking house burned down and shit changed right after. Just saying.
IconicM
They're a lot more symbiotic than anyone really wants to believe...
confanity
I mean, yes? The the whole point of "capital" and "management" etc. is to enable the actual labor force to reach their full potential.
BellsTheorem
Back when Republicans were the sane and moral party.
ThrowAwayAcct0000
I'm sick of "capitalism." I want "laborism," where the labor is valued and not just owning stuff.
cosmicbovine
1 share of the business to every worker, no more, no less. No selling or buying shares. Call it whatever you'd like, let's just get it done.
weilong
The next sentence: "Capital has its rights, which are as worthy of protection as any other rights. Nor is it denied that there is, and ->
weilong
probably always will be, a relation between labor and capital producing mutual benefits."
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
Doesn't really detract from the statement. He views currency merely as a measure of value for the labour, but capital has no value itself.
IronNand
So Lincoln was, ultimately, a moderate (no matter what his detractors said at the time).
NaughtButOne
This doesn't really detract anything from the first. It's never a question about the nature of capital, just who should benefit from it.
graehall
You'll never find anyone greedier, more fragile, and more narcissistic than a billionaire.
notacobra
At some point, Imgur twisted plutocracy and capitalism into synonyms. The big part of "true" capitalism is in the name: capital 1/2
TotaltyNotCIA
without the government breathing down the neck of capital like a dragon waiting for a snack capitalism will devolve into a plutocracy
notacobra
By definition, capital should flow. It should move. It should be invested, shared and spread. Hoarded wealth by 0.1% is NOT capital! 2/2
eightyearplan
Well, it's not exactly the fault of imgur or 'kids today' with monsterously wealthy calling themselves capitalists and their supporters
Rip901
Yes it is, just because you don't like what the capitalists do with their capital doesn't make it not capital, or capitalism
notacobra
Capital is, by definition, moving money. Imaginary investment fortunes aren't capital.
Valavuo
The thing about complex profit is that it is generated by combining labor. The value of labor of a complex product in itself is not the 1/2
Valavuo
2/2 sum of it's labor because somebody has to put that labor together and organize it. That's profit. Product doesn't exist with labor alone
Allrighty
Why couldn't the workers organise themselves?
Mithi
Because then you wouldn't get billionaires, D'uh!
Valavuo
Because when I have an idea, 10 people don't just spontaneously organize around that idea as group.
WoeToHice
You've never been to a hackathon, have you? Or heard of open source?
Valavuo
A few things: Open source existing doesn't mean it's better than commercial alternatives. Secondly, you've never tried pulling off a 1/2
Valavuo
Also, third: most open source ideas are never made into reality because people need to be convinced of contributing their time into it.
MrsGogol
lastmanonearthbutidroppedmyglasses
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
How fucken pathetic is this dude?
latenightbreeze
Same as the Russians. After the sanctions their oligarchs were crying that they wouldn't know how to live without their family money.
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
HK47Statement
Slit that pigs throat and throw his family out on their asses and into the gutter. Nationalize their assets
Ikwilstroopwaffels
Get him up against the wall.
rockhydra
There’s on in the spot light, he went to ‘space’ for fun, get him up against the wall!
Mithi
Give him something real to cry about.
Bacxaber
Itslukus
This is not a dramatization is the best part.
thinkybrainpains
I need to see this video. please and thank you. For reasons. *unzips*
ElusiveThing
As and you shall receive: https://edition.cnn.com/videos/business/2019/11/06/warren-wealth-tax-dimon-cooperman-orig.cnn-business
ablindnorwegian
"hedgefund manager and philanthropist" - I'll take "what is an oxymoron" for $800 please, Alex
MrSmilingDeath
"I don't need the government giving away my money," says the billionaire who lives in the country the tax would go to.
ElusiveThing
If I could, I'd put like a personal extra tax on his disgraceful arse. Guy's a joke.
WarlockSniper
Jokes are funny. This guy is infuriating. Unless he weeps like a baby for being sliiiiiiiightly less rich.
Cryolith
"The Party of Lincoln" won't like that lol
CaptSchmidtGaming
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blaghart
Hell even the "liberal" party won't like that. Captialists hate facts like "rich people are only rich through the exploitation of the poor"
011100000110100101100101
seeing as "liberal" as far as political philosophy goes, means support for free market capitalism and private property rights
Nobody7713
No they don't hate the fact, they hate it when people bring up the fact
blaghart
that explains why I get downvoted for bringing up anti-capitalist facts so often lmao.
011100000110100101100101
yeah a lot of people on this website are pretty woefully uninformed in leftism or political philosophy in general