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Feb 28, 2021 10:33 PM
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tReasonoustRump
Because they don’t believe in facts or science.
hobbitbandit
The Who sold us all down the river! If you don’t know read about it.
tacocatacocat
I’m so tired of republicans
wylwrk
In what context where they booing the WHO? The WHO has objectively behaved badly lately.
MiguelCamino
In all fairness WHO did try to cover for China.
suoira
Not sure what context the CPAC booing was, but the WHO has been terrible about holding China accountable since the beginning of the pandemic
MontyParkPolarisOkay
F this dude. Support Unions, until they form one in his own company. Can't wait to see the skeletons fall out of his closet.
FourLegsGood
Yeah well, he is a capitalist.
Nunyajonesinc
On the Nazi stage?
WellEverybodysHeardAboutTheBird
SpaceSpeed
Once again liberals are completely over-reacting. They weren't saying "booo!", they were saying "Boo-urns!"
MonStar1203
barbos007
Ezekiel117
@Covidnineteen do you approve this message?
sombrerohorsewagon
Republicans are morons but WHO has yet to actually push China for its original data on early Covid victims. Frontline had a great show on it
avet01
Most countries wouldn't have those raw data available. Kristen of WHO already said it's normal to summarize it instead of raw who ask who
Ismellofhockey
WHO fully deserves to be booed. We shouldn't automatically assume that everything the idiot party does is stupid.
ChaoticGoofy
Psycopaz
I've been seeing things here about just how F'd up the WHO is and how it sucks. Then the Republicans boo it and tada! We suddenly love it.
hitthatbomb
Trump should have said “no walls ever!” And the Dems would have raced to build one on both borders.
algernonsMaze
Yeah... There are definitely legitimate reasons to boo the WHO.
Madeanaccounttofavouritestuff
Boo WHO? No need to cry, it's only a joke! Haha
vvrrming
Wow, you guys really don’t know what happened!
hovz1105
This guy is not a good guy. I hope those that like him are aware they are laying with dogs that have fleas.
catfingers
Remember when the WHO wouldn't let Taiwan in because they get funding from the CCP.
blankunderscore
Remember when the WHO wouldn’t accept information about COVID-19 from Taiwan, reported the opposite then had to walk back their words?
TheOvy
Agreeable statement, but every time I see Cenk Uygur, I always have to ask, "did he apologize for denying the Armenian genocide yet?"
FourLegsGood
And every time this moronic comment comes up I have to ask, did you even read what he wrote or are you repeating a meme like a tool.
TheOvy
It was a meme? I just used to occasionally watch TYT, and wished Cenk Uygur was better.
FourLegsGood
This comment has no substance. You ignored what I said. Have some dignity ffs.
themuffinmanwholivesondrurylane
Conser1
I think it's partially because of this: https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/14/asia/coronavirus-who-china-intl-hnk/index.html
Eldibs
Every single person at CPAC should be tried for crimes against humanity.
OGBubbleGoose
WorshipTheSun
Republicans have been fucked up for a very long time...
Xander77777
When anti-racists, health workers, human rights activists etc oppose you, you either change what you do or decide they're the bad guys.
imminentloudness
Greatest Country in the World™
warriorofdiscord
Remember when the WHO lied about how bad Coronavirus was at the behest of China? I ain't sayin' the GOP are right, but the WHO deserves it.
zHurk777
Yes, china exerts a certain amount of sway with the WHO.
PerfectManhattanUp
Yeah. It's dumb to pull funding for WHO but it's also dumb to pretend that it doesn't have deep, even booable depending on context, problems
INeverWaitForIt
The GOP is trying to deflect blame from the fact that Trump shitcanned our pandemic response, including agents in China in the area this
INeverWaitForIt
virus seemingly originated from. We could have known how bad the virus was, regardless of the actions of the WHO or China.
baltec1
WHO didn't lie, they went off the data they had. China lied to WHO.
wraith3
The guy in charge of the WHO is in China's pocket, so he went with whatever they said. So you're splitting hairs about whether it's a lie.
baltec1
No he isn't, China provides not much funding to who. The problem is if who push China they go from poor data to zero data.
wraith3
Yeah he is, as is Ethiopia's current links to China.
montyman185
They never outright lied, just hinted and implied, and at no point said close borders with China, and stuck to the obviously false numbers
L1ota
Fuck cpac but the WHO failed it's remit. Bowed down to china did not investigate. Accepted China's numbers. And failed the world.
L1ota
We have to hold them and Trump to account. Do not allow cognitive dissonance to blind you to the truth.
L1ota
The WHO is sick. We need to purge outside influence and give them free access to do the job.
SoulFallen
WHO only sounds nice in name. This is appropriate. None of the proper first steps were taken because China has control in the WHO
musikaravaa
https://neuro.psychiatryonline.org/doi/full/10.1176/appi.neuropsych.16030051
Emjayen
tldr; Conservatives are fearful, gullible morons with poor emotional regulation and go by feeling rather than reason or logic. I am shocked.
musikaravaa
https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(11)00289-2
musikaravaa
This one is about how their brain structures are warped by fear
musikaravaa
This is literally a paper about how conservatives basically suffer from mental disorder
Conser1
That literally sounds like the extremists on either side. Hell, there are still people who think Sandmann is racist.
musikaravaa
It's only from 2017, but there is research stating that extreme conservatives suffer mental malady going back to the early 00's
djhash
Just like how Nazism shouldn’t be allowed to exist, so do they. There I said it. It’s never about difference of opinions.
musikaravaa
It's about differences in brain structure.
Kamasu0Tra
Almost like not caring about your fellow man is a mental illness.
musikaravaa
That is PRECISELY the point I am trying to make, however it's unethical for us to do anything about it and they can't be taught
musikaravaa
Conservatives are scared of everything so they're mean to everyone.
musikaravaa
https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(11)00289-2
Technotoad64
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3092984/
djhash
Now that’s something. Thanks. I’ll give it a read.
orbitn
The entire neocortex was a mistake.
Dancal5
Isn’t the WHO under the thumb of the CCP as it literally refused to acknowledge Taiwan/accept questions about it?
INeverWaitForIt
Yes, I'm sure the concern about Taiwan is why all these fascists were booing the WHO. Just because the WHO may be shitty doesn't give these
INeverWaitForIt
people a pass about being somewhere on the spectrum between stupid and corrupt.
Oddfish
The entire planet is under the thumb of the CCP. Including the US. They are building the world's next pre-eminent superpower. In much the
Oddfish
Same fashion all the previous superpowers built their empires. Economic dominance, rapid militarization and industrialization, and of course
Oddfish
A big hefty dose of genocide, ethnic cleansing, oppression, etc... No different from the British Empire, the Soviet Union, or the USA.
SushiJaguar
This is all from their own playbook, too. China's been doing this in-house for millenia.
Oddfish
Who hasn't?
Xalaqia
It's MORE under the thumb of the CCP when Trump withdrew funding.
Nachro97
Are you implying that pulling from WHO was a self fulfilling prophecy of sorts?
Butane9000
He was right that we were playing them far more then China but they're capitulating to the CCPs whims. Thet already down played the threat
Butane9000
Of the Corona virus coming from China until it became an international shitshow.
Davrem
I know the criticism, but honestly it's time for a three party system guys. Honestly, it's not that bad, we've got 4 of them up here.
TheTimeless
More than 2 major parties, no gerrymandering, no donations (bribery) for politicians, its not that hard to fix
treacherouswendy
Except that we’re asking the time y people who directly benefit from it being fucked up to fix it
grumblefish
If we can split the Dems into left and a centrist parties we can guarantee the extremist GOP will win everything for 50 years!
iimplodethings
That works up there because you have a parliament &proportional representation. We have a winner-take-all system so whoever splits is fucked
treacherouswendy
Gotta start at grassroots and get them in locally to start. They always want to start with POTUS-won’t ever work that way. Gotta do the work
ConfessionBare
Honestly.
3Davideo
Davrem
Interesting
tzxAzrael
i mean, i approve... the dems can stay... what other 2 parties are you suggesting, once the republican party is abolished?
JayEnfield
This requires electoral reform. Proportional representation would be so goddamn good for America
Ricobe9
The only way to end the 2 party system is to get rid of, or at least change, the electoral college that's currently in place
Lightsmith
You're asking for the impossible you'd need the existing 0ower structure to agree to make things harder for themselves. It takes amendment
MiguelCamino
Most Americans want a more than the two parties. It's the parties themselves that stop that from happening.
BoozeHound001
A tiered voting system would really help
jcod
That would require a rewrite of the constitution. I'm down for a parliamentary system.
JohnFreeze
5... Quebec is a fickle mistress
NightfallEverdark
I want a moderate party. No extreme ideas, but as close to center as possible.
gljames24
The Overton window says hi.
NightfallEverdark
Oh, I'm aware the Democrats are center right currently...
OhNoDontTouch
We already have that. It's the party that won the 2020 presidency. Personally, I'd like a more liberal party.
Yakumae
The only thing stopping this is tons of fucken money
Ogremenschen
You can't have enough corrupt parties to make a functioning system. The problem is how they're funded and regulated, not how many there are.
Ogremenschen
Also, parties are an anachronism for when we were technologically incapable of producing an actual directly representative democracy.
Immune2Iocaine
There will be. Unfortunately it will be the Trump Party. But if it splits the GOP vote then that would be good too.
Gt3454
We can remove the idiocy by requiring publicly funded elections with no outside money. And Reinstating the federal Fairness doctrine
Q269
Ranked Choice Voting would be nice
StephenDaniels
Fine, we can have the nutbar Republicans, the sensible Republicans and the party that has all the power. I think that would be fine.
seregsarn
The voting system here is one that simply doesn't support any number of parties other than two. There's been analyses and studies.
seregsarn
You're absolutely right, though. The problem is that the first step necessary for us to adopt a three party system is for us to convince 2/3
seregsarn
Of Congress to agree to support a change that will make it easier for people to vote them out of power and force them to share power
seregsarn
With their rivals forevermore under an effective pseudo-parliamentary system.
NKato
Alaska, a fairly conservative state, actually adopted Ranked Choice Voting last year. Fucking hell yeah.
iquestionthepinappleeveryday
Just throwing this out there. How about abolishing parties and candidates have to stick to what they believe will be the best for people?
GenStrike
How would you "abolish parties"?
iquestionthepinappleeveryday
Oh, I can’t. More of a hypothetical/philosophical question. If we wanted a 3rd+, why have parties in the first place?
GenStrike
I dont think there's anything inherently wrong with making political alliances... but first past the post leaves everyone dissatisfied.
XXXSpork
The US has several parties. Can't force people to join them .
NKato
You're misunderstanding. The problem is the primary voting system that forces people to choose between two candidates at the general.
XXXSpork
You can write in.
NKato
You are a fuckwit, you know that? Have you considered why write-ins are so ineffectual in many states?
XXXSpork
Yes, because the parties and their platforms are largely unpopular or are already covered by on of the more popular parties.
Chakra5
Great. Change the voting systems around the country 1st, and I'm in. Otherwise, no, it's really not.
NKato
This is why I've been hollering at everybody that's an activist and focusing on the wrong things to start with RCV at a state level.
OhNoDontTouch
Yes! I hear so much about things like term limits and other bs, but Ranked Choice Voting would be the best first step
ThisGuyPostingThings
Out of curiosity, which "up here"? Canada only has two national parties that form government (occasionally someone becomes opposition) 1/2
ThisGuyPostingThings
and provinces often fall into some form of Right Party vs. Centre-Left Party, with the occasional deviation. 2/2
ZeroLogain
NDP have been power brokers for the better part of what 12 years now? I think we can say 3.
ThisGuyPostingThings
"Power brokers" gives them a little more credit than they deserve, especially as they're scared to tempt election and lose their leverage.
ZeroLogain
Ya. I miss Layton. And Mulcair.
ButterfaceTaintClown
how about DON'T VOTE GOP. there are plenty of legitimate criticisms to level at the Democrats but they don't BOO THE WORLD HEALTH ORG.
Krayzie656
One of the interesting arguments is always that the new parties will be too extreme... but the answer is those ones will never be in power/1
Krayzie656
...but they shouldn’t need to be to have a voice... it shouldn’t be this weird cycle of one or the other party doing w/e they want /2
Krayzie656
... the ruling party should need to consult others before they put things through... not the psychotic brinkmanship you guys have now /3
KarateCanine
6 actually. Liberal, conservative, NDP, Green, Bloc, People's. And also independents.And because there are so many, we have a minority gov1/
KarateCanine
Which means the ruling party couldn't ignore the people and had to bow to other parties will, hence $2k a month pandemic cheques.
GenStrike
...which were cancelled halfway through the pandemic and many people didn't qualify, and some are even being forced to pay the money back...
GenStrike
...not to mention that the "minimum amount Canadians require to live on" is DOUBLE what people with disabilities receive...
KarateCanine
Also the 500/week that is the minimum people need to live is more than what people make on minimum wage.
seyne
Just have to entirely redo how our elections work to allow the existence of a stable >2 party system
SecondSince
And? Get to work! It's long overdue!
Hippb
Well the problem that we are trying to fix is also the problem preventing us from fixing it- we are super gridlocked
AvatarTommyBee
My thought, too. If you actually want to "heal" that country, you need to overhaul the electoral system.
generalsplayingrisk
Ranked choice would take care of a lot of it. but yeah, its an intense change to organize
NeverSplitTheParty
*long, hard, scathing stare at Justin Trudeau.*
generalsplayingrisk
whats up with trudeau?
NeverSplitTheParty
He promised that Canada would move away from first last the post and then decided against it when it let him continue his prime ministership
disabledwerewolf
People who say we need legit 3rd parties never seem to realize our election system is what creates the 2 party system.
Davrem
Admittedly, I'm probably one of those people. I get worried the GOP isn't going to correct itself back to sanity and they'll benefit 1/2
Davrem
from party loyal voters. It would be great if Trump decided to make his own party and the GOP could divorce themselves of the insanity.
disabledwerewolf
I would definitely prefer this splits the GOP. But based on the 202 election, I'm doubtful this would happen. Trump just seems to //
ChainmailleAddict
It's also what allowed the DNC to split the progressive vote in 2020. Seriously, Biden won super-progressive MASSACHUSETTS
chloramphenicolderivative
get rid of congressional districts and award the number of congressmen for whole state.
disabledwerewolf
My comment didn't mean there aren't solutions. Just that people always yell "just vote 3rd party!" as if that auto solves it. I agree tho
RealRaceRiotsAreAboutGettingBlueshelledInMarioKart
Really all third parties have to do to influence the election is rally more votes than the margin of error. Doesn't do much, but it's a >
WhoopseyDoHereComesTheGoo
Yep need ranked voting for this to be possible.
Davrem
It doesn't have to he ranked voting, Canada is first past the post and we have 4 parties sitting in the house right now. There are other
Davrem
aspects to your system I don't understand though.
Dinos91
Yeah but the last libertarian candidate for pres wanted to abolish the FDA, minimum wage, and protections against sexual discrim in pay
stabthecrab
Well as a registered libertarian...yeah I’m not opening this can of worms. You guys are so far off it’s embarrassing
gljames24
Is current american libertarianism not just laissez-faire anarcho-capitalist with most associations with mutualist thought severed?
Heisanevilgenius
And that candidate takes some of the crazy votes away from moderate conservatives
cutebytes
Well then make a party with different values?
cHoney916
It's weird to think libertarianism is just socialist endgoals. But that's so far leftist, it got co-opted by the right.
NKato
Not really...when "socialism" is adopted by the right, it's disingenuous.
Flamboyatron
Ok, but like, no one said the third party had to be "Republican Lite". Honestly, we need to do ranked voting to get more parties.
NacLac
Libertarians have no grasp of how a country runs nor what the people actually need. They do rails of coke off Atlas Shrugged and that's it.
MontyParkPolarisOkay
You say that like it's a bad thing... The coke part
GradientApollo
That's about the use of that book anyway, so one part down.
chine
she used the state of politics to hide the fact she was a bad idea machine
Miyamotofan
Destroying society is at the heart of libertarianism. It's a literal doomsday cult
NKato
I look at it as a two-axis system. Left, right, authoritarian, libertarian. The Libertarian left are more interested in stability. The...
NKato
...doomsday cultists are the ones who are fascists, and literally want to drop-kick the country and the world right back into the 1880's.
Secretsquid
Libertarian is just a nice way of saying militant republican
Davrem
I was kinda thinking that you've already got your crazy party forming, you just need a rational moderate choice for conservatives.
morelikeconsham
We already have that. If we're going to get a third party, it needs to be hard left.
Arbitrarynamehere
I believe they're called the Democratic Party
RunanD
...that's called the democratic party...it's already conservative...ffs...we don't need to go right, people.
storebrandproductmascot
Conservatives have been really clear that they don't want that.
uptaco
Honestly, Biden would be considered a moderate conservative in the 90's, Conservatives have moved the goal post so much since the 80's.
Larrimus1
SchrodingersDictator
All while claiming the left were the ones moving the window.
ButterfaceTaintClown
he's called Joe Biden. he's the best Republican President in years, and yet he's hated by Republicans.
ButterfaceTaintClown
When asked what her greatest achievement was, Margaret Thatcher responded "Tony Blair". If Trump has a shred of intelligence or (2
ButterfaceTaintClown
cared, let alone understood, what his legacy would be, he'd say the same about Biden. but GOP voters are either too fucking stupid or (3