Why do we even have Colombus day?

Oct 13, 2022 1:09 PM

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That would be participating, they only observe.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

More like getting lost on a business trip, stumbling into someone else's house, raping their wife and spreading disease.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Nah, he probably just rapes someone

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Fuck Columbus. Goddamn rapist/murderer

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Discover your neighbors house. Move in and give them Covid, killing them, and saying it's your house now.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

As a European

3 years ago | Likes 139 Dislikes 0

Being dutch myself: Yup!

3 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

you mean western European

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Wound up in a Cuban diner and demanded Indian food.

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The people who "care" about Columbus Day are the same kind of people who "care" when a sports team they aren't a fan of changes their name.

3 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

So…bigots. Bigots looking for an opportunity to show pride in their bigotry.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Everything I've learned about Columbus in the past decade makes me really resent all the time wasted memorizing fairy tales in school.

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Don’t forget to kill some of the people you find in the grocery store and sell children you find into sex slavery.

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I discovered the milk aisle!

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And then chop the tellers hands off…

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Italian persecution?!?!? Columbus Day was created to grab votes.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Yes before white people were white people we hated each other's guts cause a bunch of rich assholes went to war in order to make money.

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I will continue to observe Oct 12 as my mom’s birthday

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

This also led to the addition of "In God We Trust" to US Currency - https://time.com/4179685/in-god-we-trust-currency-history/

3 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

They die, their opinions along with them

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Even aside from being a genocidal maniac, Columbus was just genuinely stupid and a horrible navigator.

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IIRC he thought the earth was pear-shaped since even he realized that he shouldn't have gotten to India so quickly.

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1500, Columbus wrote: “A 100 castellanoes are as easily obtained for a woman as for a farm,…those from nine to ten are now in demand.”

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I use it as an excuse to watch Goonies, Gremlins, Adventures in Babysitting... what other chris columbus would the day be about?!

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Don't forget at least one of the Harry Potter films

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The reason we have Columbus day was that following the worst lynching in American history President Benjamin Harrison created a Federal①

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holiday that would celebrate a well known Italian in an effort to reduce anti-Italian racism and foster integration of all the new Italian②

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immigrants in to US society. The Pledge of Allegiance was also part of this so that school children would see that immigrant children were③

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just as patriotic as "true Americans" like them.④

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Move into your neighbors home saying that it’s yours now.

3 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 3

No, no, you gotta kill em first, and then claim you discovered the house from scratch.

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Only after you give them a deadly disease and they die.

3 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

Sell their 9-year-old daughter into slavery, while you're at it

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Do these people want cookies or something for honoring a genocidal douche?

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Yes, because they're standing up to woke mobs trying to silence white people. You know, nonsense like that.

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

In SD we had a bunch of GOPers losing their shit about Columbus Day getting renamed to Indigenous People's day. But we've been celebrating >

3 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

This would fit more with it coinciding with Canadian Thanksgiving, I suppose.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

>> it as Native American Day instead of Columbus Day since 1990.

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I remember in a tiny town in eastern SD, our teacher explaining how Columbus was a jerk and Native American Day was way better, …

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… and we were like: “yay Native American Day!!!” When I was in college, I read “lies my teacher told me” by James Lowen …

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… and started to understand how bad Columbus was, and humans in general can be.

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I went to high school in ESD and my teacher said the same. Mr. Wookie, you're too good for this backwards state.

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“Woke” is used as a derogatory term by the right. Even though it just means awake/aware. What do you call this? Just idiotic I suppose..

3 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 3

it refers to treating people equally even if they are 'different' from you. - something that SHOULD be basic human decency. GQP hates that.

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I don't know about you, but I observe Columbus day by accident when glancing at a calander then moving on with my day.

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i observed it when i forgot on Sunday that i was working that day so i stayed up until 4 am playing video games and then worked my shift

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I accidentally did it by putting my trash out and not having it picked up because I forgot.

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I was conscious during part of the day, so technically I observed it (but seriously find a better Italian for Italian -American Day)

3 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Even Al Capone would be better

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Carlis Marcello.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

*Carlos

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I observe it on my morning commute when I overhear a radio DJ mention it before switching the station since radio for music.

3 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I observed it by having a package be a day late because I forgot it was a thing.

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Or when you go to the bank to find out it's closed.

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Literally me on Monday.

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I enjoyed the day off it gave me but none of the places I've worked in the last 9 years gave off for it.

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Seriously though he landed in the Bahamas under the Spanish flag, as an American why the fuck should I care?

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He kicked off the Columbian exchanged that revolutionized societies all over the world and was the defining event of the Exploration Age?

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Also, was pretty horrific, even by the standards of his time. Slavery was all but unheard of in Europe when he enslaved natives & took them.

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Because Dog Whistle.

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Because it was the beginning of the white take over of the americas

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I could see it if I got the day off from work. But I’ve never had a job where you get it off, so fuck it.

3 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Schools, post office and military bases

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My brother's school district started having school that day and just added an extra day off during Thanksgiving break.

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All that sweet sweet land we got in the coming years. /s

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Because he murdered and raped his way through a genocide and was so bad even the Spanish Inquisition punished him for going too far.

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Probably because of the rape, child sex slavery, and delivery of pox infested blankets to the natives

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3rd voyage skirted coast of S. America and 4th voyage Central America. “America” became popular due to name used on widely adopted maps.

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You shouldn't

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This is why I want to switch out Columbus Day for American History Day for people we should really care about http://americanhistoryday.com

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6 states have switched it out for an Indigenous People's day instead.

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The aim of American History Day is to institute a federal holiday for all 50 states.

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Because in the 19th century, jerking off over manifest destiny was VERY popular in the USA, so he got enshrined in the nation's mythology.

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And then all the Anglos who settled in North America didn’t want Italian immigrants living there.

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Well Spain and Italy are different countries so not sure what point you're trying to make. Am I missing something?

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Columbus was Italian, sailing for Spain.

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Ooh ok I get it. I intentionally forgot all the Columbus crap I learned in grade school, thank you.

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Eh, everyone forgets history class once it's over.

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Actually he was Genoese, Italy wasn't a united country back then.

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Or Irish. Or Asians. Or the people that already lived there for centuries.

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Those damn native immigrants/s

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Centuries is such a technically correct statement. 100 centuries is still centuries.

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Because he was the first invader. Stuff like that deserves respect

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I mean, technically he wasn't though... Maybe the first invader of the Caribbean. But the Vikings were in North America long before he was.

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Good point! Maybe because he was the first Christian invader? (This is all tongue in cheek - he was a monster)

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The Norse elite were Christian at that point.

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Columbus Day was created to appease Italians and the govt of Italy, after Italians were lynched in New Orleans. NYtimes source to follow...

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Columbus Day was instituted to bring awareness to a minority being oppressed. Oh the irony

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1/2 So appalling was his conduct in 'The New World' that the reaction of Isabella and Ferdinand,

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2/2 the people who came up with The Fucking Spanish Inquisition, was to say 'Fuck me son. Do you maybe wanna tone this down a bit?'

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Italians made a nice addition to the white supremacist cause in America

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He first landed at Hispaniola.

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Because Italian Americans wanted a hero and a holiday for themselves.

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while we're just making up holidays, can we get one for Ignacio Anaya, inventor of nachos?

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although it was in response to a bunch of them getting lynched somewhere in the South 'cause they were a despised minority.

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It’s an excuse to uphold white supremacy

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White people aren't even all white. People were nomadic all over the place for a long time and mixed it up. This supremacists would be

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Horrified if they had a DNA test done and found out their real background.

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Weren't the vikings first anyway?

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its unclear how far they got. Leif Eriksson established a colony that they called Vinland (wineland) but exactly where is unclear. North>

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We know exactly where. L'anse aux meadueaux in NFLD. There's a national park built around it since the 80s.

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l’anse may only have been a waypoint. They dont know how much further they went and the extent of the colony

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Viking ruins were found on Newfoundland a few years ago

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east continental north america is fairly certain but it didnt last in a continuous political entity so it wont count.

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Depends on how you define first, from Europe yes, in general the native americans got them beat

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I thought we were defining it as the "discovery" of America. Technically the entire continent ran away from the others.

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Also the natives came from Asia didn't they?

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yes, when bering strait was a land bridge. That predates any european ‘discovery’ significantly though

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So this "discovery" and thus Columbus' "contribution" are arguably meaningless

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Columbus Day arose out of a movement to honor Italian American heritage at a time when Italian immigrants faced widespread persecution

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They found a way to put Italians into the white supremacist puzzle of America

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I mean, the good thing about Italian heritage is we've got a fuckton of really good italian dudes. How about we switch to: 1\

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Da Vinci day? Garibaldi Day? Galileo day? Michelangelo? Marco Polo? The list goes on?

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Can we just have Ferrari day and we celebrate by listening to the F2002 rip around Fiorano? https://youtu.be/KO_8Gtk-bWk

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FDR needed the Italian vote

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So let's turn it into Danny DeVito day. Problem solved.

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...I mean, the legacy of Columbus doesn't really make a very good case for that.

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They aren't saying it does. It's just the honest answer to the question.

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Some states do! Ours celebrated Mother Cabrini

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Honoring Italian heritage with Columbus is fucking stupid. Let's honor Italian heritage with something we all love: Italian food.

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Yeah, who was The Italian who turned American Tomatoes into pasta sauce?

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I propose we honor it by building roads and aqueducts.

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Olive Garden "you're family day" I kid of course but I actually have pretty fond memories at the OG

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Maybe we should honor them with someone who wasn't a mass murderer

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Fellini Day

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History is a pickle.in that regard. Moral lines and conduct change. All nation states were brutal slave holding killing machines prior.

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The important thing is to remember why we have our current struggles. The American slave trade was particularly horrific and long lived.

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And who didn't fuck llamas

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Um.

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I observe it a couple times a week by eating pizza.

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Sure, really only care if I get the day off or not.

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A famous Italian who hasn’t murdered anyone, you say? ? Possible, does death by cheese and carbs count? ?

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Amerigo Vespucci?

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Or, now that Italians no longer face widespread persecution, change it honor the heritage of another group that does?

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The first step to repeating oppression is whitewashing past oppression. Change the name. Other groups can have their own days/months.

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Half our elected leaders (GOP senators) only are in office due to that widespread persecution of various groups. So don't hold your breath.

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Mario day

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Already exists on march 10 (MAR10)

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Are we going to ignore the countless Goombas and Koopas Mario needlessly slaughtered?

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Father Guido Sarducci Day?

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I'd take that just so I could say Guido Sarducci more often.

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I suggest Raffaele Esposito he is the baker who invented the Pizza (-pie) as much i know.

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dude! what!? We know who invented pizza? thats crazy! i just figured it was one of those around forever things like bread

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foods that are very pizza-like go back at least as far as Rome, but pizza as we know it was one or two guys in the 50s

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I could celebrate a Raffaele Esposito day.

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