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Jan 20, 2021 12:57 PM
ChunkyChewbacca
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theaseal
I'm going to say something that might get me destroyed but I have to say it. If are attracted to kids and seek help, you are not the problem
BurlRavenscroft
But so much funnier
Apletto
If 10% of kids who went to the circus were sexually harrased, abused, or raped; it would be illegal to go to the circus. School is fine tho
spiffylookingnerfherder
(2) I find it a little hard to believe 10% of students are sexually assaulted at school; do you have a source for that?
FabergeBurrito
There's a lot of rapists in other lines of work too. Some unemployed. Should we go outside with those chances? /s
spiffylookingnerfherder
The unemployed don't tend to be put in positions of power over others.
VardtheBard
There's this problem in all institutions. Plenty of it in sports camps, don't see anyone saying to remove gyms and pitches....1/2
VardtheBard
It's the person not the place or the job. Teachers, doctors, bosses, coaches, priests, rabbis, actors, singers etc.
mormacil
That's pretty savage
dfsmitty0711
America's been getting raped by a bunch of clowns for years.
sumyunguy
LadyBith
OK, but also: Fuck Dan Savage, he's an asshole who should NOT be given a platform.
demodulated
Is he? I enjoyed his Savage Love column for a long time. What did he do wrong?
RideTheStimutacs
And don't get me started on clown priests.
AngryGraphicDesigner
Painful, but true
HereticsAllOfYou
They get raped by teachers just as much if not more but it's not illegal to take them to school.
atomiccheesegod
The pope has condemned pedo priests at the same time while the Catholic Church pays legal fees for pedo priests
TsNightmare
No no. The church doesnt pay shit. It's the clowns that attend the church that pays for the legal fees.
jamesCosmosBaron
Apparently the Vatican seems to think there is a raging homosexual problem in the priesthood..thank god that’s not addressed in the Bible...
docchloroplast
Guess we shouldn’t allow families or couples to live together either since most sexual assaults happen by someone the victim knows.
Apletto
Even without direct bad behavior there tend to be issues for kids raised around an opposite gender adult they aren't blood related too...
Apletto
but it's not great for orphans or single-parent kids either, so it's a whole Gordian Knot there.
Lassannn
R0meo04
The peepee
willbailey226131415
They do realise that Jesus was probably actually married as a Jewish man of that time he would have been expected to get married
willbailey226131415
So them not allowing marriage to be totally devoted to the church is stupid
Gyan7
ChristopherEvans1
Hmm, clown rape. Don’t threaten me with a good time.
xBenoitBallsx
"Raped by clowns" is just one of the few word combinations you'd rather not read on the toilet. Like "Hitler pornography".
SweetBabyJesus
JCBalance
Honk honk
boobsalot
Don't let the big shoes fool you.
derJake
Boy do I have the YouTube channel for you! https://youtu.be/hT7x1NvGf5k
Drasas
Damn, Dan... Why you gotta be so SAVAGE!
NotInLimboAnymore
That's goddamn savage.
SQLdragon
lately it's been old female teachers raping boys...seems like boys are the primary target but wait...boys can't be raped rhetoric.
ImpetuousVixen
Rapist should always be punished. IDGAF who they are or what they do OR who they worship.
TheGhostofCarrieFisher
The majority of child sex abuse is committed by adult males that are married.
ChrisTouf
This is savage. Dan Savage
SwayzeS
I hate having to upvote such a dreadful statement, but I cannot deny the fact of these words. I'm saddened to agree with this post, but I do
PrinceVlad
I guess that'll take the FUNNY right out of it...having survived a childhood of atrocities, rape or molestation is wrong and horrific
zachtidmore
It's not that a lot of priests rape kids, it's that those who do are protected so they can rack olup tens or more victims. The whole
zachtidmore
institution is fucked up.
TheGhostofKennyRogers
Pro tip for the Catholic Church : Let priests get married that way you will attract less pedophiles/deviants to the cloth.
DarkMoon999
Fucking Catholic Pedophile Priests!
TheGhostofCarrieFisher
The majority of child sex abuse is performed by adult married males.
figsbar
Do you know what would attract even less pedos? Not using their gigantic influence to protect those pedos to protect their "image"
otiumCatulli
Marriage prevents priests from forming dynasties and prioritising their children over the church.
JRen86
I'm pretty sure married people rape too
elitwin10
Marriage does not prevent pedophilia. How do you explain the children who are molested by their own parents?
regatenapizpireta
...you mean gay marriage then?
HereticsAllOfYou
Southern Baptists are married and have the same issue. Implying that celibacy leads to pedophilia is stupid.
DarkMoon999
False equivalency. The Catholic Church's rate of pedophilic leaders is light years more than that of any other religion. Your priests 1/2
DarkMoon999
balls are painfully swollen due to celibacy, and they use any opportunity they can to unburden themselves. It's fucking horrific! 2/2
TjD1974
Must be the reason why there are just as many protestant priest rapists, or sports coaches or or or
beeeeeeerkaaaaa
That just creates married pedophiles. Marriage doesn't change pedophilia.
metalmorgan
The Jehovah's Witnesses would like to advise that this does fuck all....
TreCorgiGamer
What does that mean dude?
metalmorgan
JW elders can marry, still plenty of child abuse in the church though
TreCorgiGamer
For sure but they all around pretty decent. My sister and her family are JWs. I don't have any religion but each to their own.
metalmorgan
So are Catholics, doesn't stop the abuse though. There are plenty of horrid JWs. My family are JWs too. Totally brainwashed
Trobientavu
Married with ?childs ?
myg00
Maybe let them masturbate? Probably not during the service, I don’t know. I don’t go to church.
RationalViking
Fewer
RationalViking
I'll see myself out. I know I'm not welcome
HelpfulCorn
My dad, who went to Catholic school his whole life, said they used to take all the weirdos and steer them to the priesthood.
FlyingDorito
hmm....I seriously doubt that will work.
NOINITIATIVE
It's about the power not sexuality.
G0MeatCube
Just like any chikky cult. The leader gets to bang your wife and you must lose thy genitals. Only Leader have balls.
EndersdoyouthinkthisisafuckingGame
Martin Luther: "Am I a joke to u?"
LordofSandvich
IIRC there is a study specifically disproving this. Sating sexual desire will not prevent rape (insatiable, violent desire)
BearsDontCare
Correct. Their sexual desire are those kids, and they will do whatever needed to fulfill the fantasy
nullbr
the catholic church doesnt allow priests to marry because when they die the church would be responsible for the widows and children
Fooby
That's not true, there are tons of creepers in evangelical circles, and they all have wives.
TheGhostofCarrieFisher
Yes that is why the majority of child sex abuse committed is by adult married males.
NOINITIATIVE
having talked to cops who've busted multiple ministers and pastors for same thing, its all about power, not simply denomination or sexuality
JiveAssMoFo
But that would require admitting that celibacy was never a great idea to begin with
mormacil
Or the older practice of castration for clergy
derel1cte
It’s about power, not sex. This solves nothing
mormacil
Rape being about power over sex has been largely debunked. That was based on the flawed premise of using violent inmates as the baseline 1/2
mormacil
for rapists through ease of access in prisons. The large majority of rapes have nothing to do with those crimes. 2/2
BearsDontCare
Going to need a validated study on this claim given the decades long litersture evaluating rape of other populations
mormacil
Try the work of André De Zutter, he has a lot of studies on rape, rape allegations and rape motivation
blainetog
Priests are actually less likely to be pedophiles than the average population. That said, allowing priests to get married isn't a crazy >>
LordofSandvich
^IIRC that is specifically because churches have begun using pedophile screening processes. It's hard to judge efficacy, though.
blainetog
Actually, the stats I saw were historical, reaching back before the scandals. I would expect those numbers to be even further down now.
LordofSandvich
IIRC the numbers are 6% in the general population and 4% in clergymen - but it was exactly one report and I'm not a statistician
blainetog
>> idea. It's just a logistical nightmare, expensive, and arguably splits the priests' focus. The vast majority of priests work very hard >>
blainetog
>> for their congregation, the kind of hours you'd associate with a workaholic. It's hard to fit a family into that vocation.
Broonstar
Priests don't become pedophiles, pedophiles seek out positions that allow trust and access... Hiding the pedophiles... thats on the church!
DurendaI
See, Larry Nassar.
Melusin
That's not the reasoning behind it. They think the structure will protect them/ absolve them from temptation. Then they abuse
haveyouheardabouttheseinternetmemes
I would bet that a lot of pedos would be less attracted to the priesthood if they didn't think it would let them ignore the one part of 1
cookfan
NOT justifying it at ALL. Just curious and it would only change my disgust by adding a small bit of pity for the perp repeating the cycle.
NotNotDeadpool
Maybe they need an internal inqusition
cookfan
I always wondered how many pedophiles were molested or raped as kids. I wouldn't be surprised if a huge chunk of them were also victims.
upvotehypnotoad
Yeah, I mean, I have a constant desire to just punch ppl in the face, but I don't. Not about having a fucked mind, but acting on it
BearsDontCare
Iirc around 40% were victims themselves
upvotehypnotoad
I don't know man, a life time of celibacy...if they were surrounded by a bunch of goats I'd imagine there'd be a lot more goat fuckers
PlanckEraWasMyBestEra
I imagine, given how many there are, that it's both of these things. Some are drawn to the role, some are cultivated by the role.
DemSumBigAssRidges
Predators go where the prey is... It really hurt to not make a pun there!!
upvotehypnotoad
Are you telling me goat fuckers go become farmers to fuck goats, or they're just hard up and take advantage of the nearest hole?
NeverConfusedForNaught
Yes
WorkerLurker
Was it, “Let us prey”?
TheRealGeorgeMcfly
Eastern catholic priests can be married if they get married before they're ordained. Bishops already suggested something similar to the pope
Melusin
My Roman catholic church accepted married- before- seminary types too
anneboleynfan1
Aren't they considered deacons?
TheGhostofKennyRogers
Vatican 3 : This Time It’s Personal
alwaysL8
Vatican III: Vatican with a Vengeance?
anneboleynfan1
Sauce: my father in law is an orthodox priest lol I'm surprised I didn't burst into flame when I met him
Mithi
The skin-care routine with asbestos really does pay of, didn't it?
anneboleynfan1
I knew it would eventually
anneboleynfan1
No it won't. Pedophiles are pedophiles whether or not they're married. Defrocking them and punishing them will help the situation
barbarian818
The problem is the stance that God's law is automatically higher than man's law. Thus, only the Church can punish transgressors and even
barbarian818
then, temporal punishments tend to be lax because of the assumption that God will add to it if He sees fit. Punishing pedos is tantamount to
barbarian818
admitting that the Church is NOT infallible.
anneboleynfan1
I don't know that that's true. Pope Benedict defrocked hundreds of priests for abuse
TheGhostofCarrieFisher
I agree. A majority of child sex abuse is committed by adult married males.
mikeymikec
A lady who worked in juv detention posted on imgur a while back with a load of experiences, and said that in her experience >
mikeymikec
most offenders in for sex crimes against minors were not paedos as such, just the victim was an easy target.
haveyouheardabouttheseinternetmemes
Fewer pedophiles would be attracted to the priesthood if they could get married though. Here's the thing, pedophiles don't WANT to be 1
haveyouheardabouttheseinternetmemes
pedophiles. Being a pedophile is literally the one thing that all of society universally hates. So if someone comes along and tells you 2
haveyouheardabouttheseinternetmemes
you can have a career that basically means sex doesn't have to be a part of your life at all, that seems pretty great. And please 3
haveyouheardabouttheseinternetmemes
understand I am in no way trying to excuse pedophiles here. Regardless of whether they have control over their sexual desires, they 4
anneboleynfan1
I feel like they seek out these jobs because of the level of trust placed on them and the easy access to kids, but that's just me
haveyouheardabouttheseinternetmemes
I'm sure whatever's going on in their brains is complicated. No one thinks of themselves as a bad person so they must be doing some pretty 1
haveyouheardabouttheseinternetmemes
intense mental gymnastics to justify who they are/their behavior. It's probably a heady mix of seeing an opportunity to gain access, 2
anneboleynfan1
Having been a victim of abuse (not at the hands of a priest) I just can't see their side. The amount of trickery and threats that go into 1