The Most Expensive Sci-Fi Flops In History

Jun 19, 2022 7:56 PM

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The Adventures of Pluto Nash (2002)

You wouldn't normally associate comedies with massive budgets, but titles like "Evan Almighty" show that entries in this genre can rack up budgets comparable to your average Marvel movie. "The Adventures of Pluto Nash," a 2002 sci-fi comedy starring Eddie Murphy, wasn't quite that costly but it still had a sizable $100 million budget. Up to this point in his career, Murphy hadn't appeared in a live-action movie that exceeded $317 million worldwide. That meant "Pluto Nash" needed to be an abnormally lucrative star vehicle to justify that enormous budget.

Unfortunately, "Pluto Nash" came nowhere close to being profitable. Instead, it was a legendary box office flop that grossed only $7 million worldwide, including a paltry $4.4 million in North America. CBS News would later report that this title lost a gigantic $92.9 million. Opening in just 2,320 theaters in its domestic opening weekend, compared to the 3,243 locations "Nutty Professor II: The Klumps" premiered in just two years earlier, it's clear Warner Bros. didn't have much confidence in "Pluto Nash" finding an audience. The dismal reviews for "Pluto Nash" seemed to justify that nonexistent conviction in its box office prospects. Still, even the most pessimistic individuals could've never imagined that "Pluto Nash" would rack up box office losses largely unheard of for a comedy.

Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within (2001)

High expectations were riding on the computer-animated sci-fi action film "Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within." Specifically, the feature was seen as a potentially groundbreaking title for the domain of ultra-realistic computer graphics in cinematic narratives. In an article from Animation World Network, VFX supervisor Remo Balcells provided detailed explanations for the various technological revolutions that the production provided. This included the way the film's animators rendered entities like fire or explosions. While all of this was exciting for animation aficionados, a pricey tentpole cannot become a box office hit by VFX breakthroughs alone. The eventual box office haul of "Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within" would reflect this brutally.

In its worldwide box office run, "Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within" grossed just $85.1 million, a disastrous sum given its $137M cost. That budget was part of the problem here, as "The Spirits Within" was too expensive for a non-sequel animated feature. For comparison's sake, "The Spirits Within" cost a little over 50% more than the $90 million budget of "Atlantis: The Lost Empire" from that same summer. Spending this much cash on the project was almost certainly always going to be a mistake. However, the financial woes of "The Spirits Within" were even worse than anyone could've anticipated since it lost $94 million. Needless to say, "Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within" did not meet those lofty pre-release expectations.

Stealth (2005)

"Stealth" was inarguably the biggest killer jet movie of summer 2005. It also was one of Jamie Foxx's first movies after winning an Oscar for the feature "Ray," further enhancing the high-profile nature of this motion picture. However, "Stealth" ended up cratering at the box office and even became one of the biggest box office duds of 2005. Grossing just $76.4 million globally on a $138 million budget, "Stealth" was a catastrophe at the box office. The promise of a jet gaining sentience and going on a rampage just wasn't something people were lining up to see in the summer of 2005.

Part of the problem with "Stealth" was its exorbitant budget. That $138 million price tag meant this film had to perform abnormally high for a blockbuster not based on any pre-existing source material to be profitable. It didn't help that, while Foxx was an Oscar winner, the other two leads of the film (Jessica Biel and Josh Lucas) did not have extensive experience anchoring big blockbusters. With all these flaws dragging down the box office run of "Stealth," it's no wonder the film ended up losing (per the book "The 10 Worst of Everything: The Big Book of Bad" by Sam Jordison) a whopping $96 million for Sony/Columbia.

Fantastic Four (2015)

The 2015 "Fantastic Four" movie was supposed to relaunch this franchise in style. This was to be a grim and gritty take on the famous Marvel superhero team that could eventually spawn sequels, crossovers, and whatever else 20th Century Fox could imagine. That all changed once the box office results for this feature came in. The abysmal $167.8 million worldwide gross of this "Fantastic Four" was a cold splash of water in the face of all those expectations that this title could spawn a long-term franchise. A terrible sum under any circumstances, this was an especially bad gross when compared to the worldwide totals of the preceding two "Fantastic Four" movies. Coming in 50% behind the global haul of the 2005 "Fantastic Four" installment was not what 20th Century Fox had in mind when it greenlit this reboot.

A lot was going on to make audiences wary of shelling out cash for this version of the Fantastic Four, but what really sank this one was director Josh Trank disowning the film just hours before its August 7 release. It was a rare event that grabbed headlines and immediately gave the film a toxic reputation. Estimated to have lost somewhere between $80 and $100 million for 20th Century Fox, the ambitions of this "Fantastic Four" film becoming a pop culture phenomenon were quickly snuffed out.

Dark Phoenix (2019)

Some long-running franchises go out with a bang, a thrilling last hurrah that cements them as having left a lasting impact on pop culture. Sadly, such a fate did not befall the original "X-Men" series from 20th Century Fox. While the original film was an important title in the history of Marvel Comics film adaptations, the closing chapter of the saga, "Dark Phoenix," proved only significant in its box office doldrums. In its worldwide box office run, "Dark Phoenix" grossed just $246.3 million on a staggering $200 million budget, including an abysmal $65.8 million domestic total that barely exceeded the North American opening weekend of "X-Men: Apocalypse."

To put those numbers in perspective, "Dark Phoenix" didn't just fall short of the $746 million haul of "X-Men: Days of Future Past" from five years earlier. It also came in beneath the $296 million global cume of the very first "X-Men" from the year 2000. Among all "X-Men" titles, only "The New Mutants" did worse at the worldwide box office. The finaqncial shortcomings of this title were so severe that "Dark Phoenix" eventually lost $93 million. Embracing more overtly sci-fi elements for this final installment of the original "X-Men" series couldn't prevent "Dark Phoenix" from being a massive dud.

Jupiter Ascending (2015)

Lana and Lilly Wachowski changed science fiction cinema forever with "The Matrix," that rare American blockbuster with intellect to spare that still managed to crush it at the box office. While the two "Matrix" sequels had varying degrees of success at the worldwide box office, the duo struggled to parlay that kind of financial glory into other non-"Matrix" sci-fi blockbusters. Rarely was this struggle more apparent than on their 2015 feature "Jupiter Ascending," which had a reported production budget of $179 million.

The sizable budget was needed to cover the expansive scope of this title as well as secure major talent in the lead roles like Mila Kunis and Channing Tatum. Unfortunately, spending all that dough didn't end up attracting scores of moviegoers. Grossing just $181.9 million worldwide, including a dismal $47.4 million in North America, "Jupiter Ascending" came in way behind expectations. While it at least made more globally than the $93.3 million haul of 2008's Wachowski Sister box office dud "Speed Racer," "Jupiter Ascending" was otherwise a financial disaster. This was exemplified by how it eventually lost $95.7 million, a sharp contrast to the days of the Wachowski Sisters printing money with their original "Matrix" films. The only comfort for this directorial duo here is that, unlike some other all-time sci-fi money losers such as "Battleship," "Jupiter Ascending" has developed a cult following, albeit not nearly a big enough following to render the feature profitable.

Titan A.E. (2000)

20th Century Fox's attempt to launch an animation studio in response to the wild success of "The Lion King" and other 1990s titles ended in spectacular disaster with "Titan A.E." Only the second project to emerge from Fox Animation Studios, "Titan A.E." was a massive sci-fi adventure film full of explosions, aliens, and spaceships. It was the kind of movie channeling "Star Wars" more than it was "Beauty and the Beast." Costing a pricey $75 million to make, the pressure was on the movie to make enough money to ensure that Fox Animation Studios could keep on trucking.

Unfortunately, "Titan A.E." only made $36.7 million at the worldwide box office, which included a meager $22.7 million in North America. Former Fox Animation Studios head Chris Meledandri noted in a 2013 profile for Bloomberg that "Titan A.E." ended up being such a flop that it cost Fox $100 million. Within days of the "Titan A.E." opening, Fox Animation Studios was shut down. Even worse, this film's box office failure ended up serving as an ominous precursor to the financial turmoil that would befall other early 2000s hand-drawn animated films heavy on sci-fi action, such as "Atlantis: The Lost Empire" and "Treasure Planet."

Transformers: The Last Knight (2017)

For years, the "Transformers" movies were financially bulletproof. The live-action stories of robots that fight each other and turn into vehicles were reliable generators of massive box office hauls. As late as "Transformers: Age of Extinction" in 2014, the series could still exceed $1 billion and top all other titles at that year's worldwide box office. Unfortunately, the good financial luck for this saga came to a close with "Transformers: The Last Knight," a 2017 installment that saw Optimus Prime going bad and the mythology of King Arthur getting swirled up in all the robot mayhem. These fresh ingredients weren't enough to stave off financial misery for "The Last Knight."

While many movies would be pleased as punch with a $602.8 million worldwide gross, "The Last Knight" made less than all prior "Transformers" movies. This occurred even as the movie cost anywhere from $217 to $260 million to produce, a noticeable increase from the budgets of earlier "Transformers" entries. With such a gargantuan budget, it would've taken far more than just $602.8 million globally to make this one profitable. Per the head of CBSViacom, The Last Knight" ended up losing an excess of $100+ million for Paramount Pictures. An official figure for its losses was never disclosed, but that kind of financial bleeding would've been incomprehensible in the past for a series that seemed to be printing money. However, even the most lucrative sci-fi sagas can end up producing a box office dud for the ages.

Mars Needs Moms (2011)

Over the years, movies with Mars in the title or their plot have not fared so well at the box office. This is obviously not a concrete rule given that movies like "The Martian" and the original "Total Recall" were major hits. Plus, flops based around the red planet like "Mission to Mars" had many other problems working against them. However, the constant financial troubles that have plagued Mars-centric films have certainly done no favor to the reception of such titles. The tremendous box office failure of "Mars Needs Moms" did nothing to dissuade any potential jitters over the financial viability of movies set on Mars.

Released in March 2011, "Mars Needs Moms" debuted in a month that's often been kind to animated family fare. "Mars Needs Moms" was a significant exception to this trend, grossing just $39.5 million globally. That was a disastrous sum given its $150 million budget. Competition from other animated family movies, such as "Rango" or fellow Disney title "Gnomeo and Juliet," helped keep audiences always from "Moms." The divisive nature of the film's motion-capture animation technique also did it no favors. There was a lot more going on with this movie losing around $100 million than just it being set on Mars.

Tomorrowland (2015)

"There's a great big beautiful tomorrow," harmonizes the Carousel of Progress at various Disney theme parks. Unfortunately, there was not a great big beautiful box office haul awaiting "Tomorrowland," a 2015 Brad Bird directorial effort that took inspiration from the Disney theme park land of the same name. Costing $190 million, "Tomorrowland" was a big swing from Bird and screenwriter Damon Lindelof to try and launch a largely original tentpole into the summertime marketplace. Plus, it was a big test to see if Bird could deliver a live-action hit separated from the "Mission: Impossible" saga.

Unfortunately for all involved, "Tomorrowland" came up woefully short on all expectations. Grossing just $206 million worldwide, "Tomorrowland" came nowhere close to being profitable. Even worse, it was way below the worldwide box office hauls of other Brad Bird movies. It would be tempting to lay the $120-150 million losses of "Tomorrowland" strictly at the feet of it being an original movie. However, there were deeper problems here informing the feature's financial struggles, including competition from other summer 2015 titles like "Avengers: Age of Ultron" and "Jurassic World." Plus, exempting "Gravity," "Tomorrowland" leading man George Clooney had never appeared in a movie that grossed enough globally to justify a $190 million budget. He was famous for being in mid-budget dramatic hits, not costly blockbusters. This and several other factors collided to cement the dismal box office outcome for "Tomorrowland."

Terminator: Dark Fate (2019)

The hope with "Terminator: Dark Fate" was to finally get the "Terminator" series back on track. The franchise had been dragged down by a trio of sequels that never quite resonated with the public nor broke through as much as they could've financially. "Dark Fate" attempted to give die-hard fans exactly what they wanted, with James Cameron back for the first time since "T2: Judgement Day," this time as a producer. Linda Hamilton also reprised her role as Sarah Conner. Plus, unlike the last three "Terminator" movies that solely focused on familiar characters like John Connor, this new installment would largely fixate on brand-new individuals in an attempt to attract a new generation of moviegoers.

The audaciousness of this attempt to revive the "Terminator" brand was even reflected in its massive $185 million budget, with all those dollars going towards ensuring that this feature could live up to the kind of massive spectacle "T2" delivered decades earlier. Unfortunately, all these efforts didn't lure in moviegoers, as "Dark Fate" ended up making only $250.3 million worldwide, the vast majority of which came from its international run. After so many underwhelming "Terminator" movies, not even the return of Cameron and Hamilton could get moviegoers back on board with this series. The result of all this was not only the lowest global haul for a "Terminator" sequel but also a massive $122.6 million loss. With that, this franchise was officially terminated.

Battleship (2012)

In "Battleship," human beings managed to defeat the odds and stave off an alien invasion of the planet Earth. It's a classic underdog story, the kind that has defined so many beloved hit blockbusters. In real life, though, there was no happy ending in store for the box office run of "Battleship." This film adaptation of the beloved board game was a massive flop at the worldwide box office, grossing just over $313.4 million globally, including just $65.2 million from North America. That was a less than ideal haul for a summer blockbuster under any circumstance, but it was especially disappointing considering that "Battleship" cost a hefty $207 million to make.

The underwhelming aspects of "Battleship's" box office failings were endless, as were the reasons it came up short financially. While reflecting on the film to The New York Times, director Peter Berg noted that the biggest reason for "Battleship" flopping was that it lacked a movie star to draw in moviegoers. His earlier blockbuster "Hancock" was anchored by box office juggernaut Will Smith, while "Battleship" was relying on the spectacle of intergalactic aquatic warfare to grab people's attention. Betting on that element did not pay off for "Battleship's" financial prospects. Having lost a projected $150 million, "Battleship" sank without a trace at the box office.

Mortal Engines (2018)

Universal Pictures tried its best to pump up "Mortal Engines" as the next big hit blockbuster. A steampunk adventure full of sci-fi elements like an undead cyborg warrior and giant moving cities, "Mortal Engines" was given a cushy mid-December launchpad, the same timeframe producer Peter Jackson debuted his "Lord of the Rings" movies to great success. The studio even started advertising "Mortal Engines" a whole year in advance to help pump up its profile and put the title on the radar of moviegoers across the globe. Even with all these measures, though, audiences just didn't care for "Mortal Engines" and outright rejected the project despite the presence of Jackson.

"Mortal Engines" crashed and burned at the worldwide box office with $85.4 million, including a tiny $15.9 million in North America. While mid-December had been a great place to premiere the "Lord of the Rings" and "Hobbit" movies, "Mortal Engine's" home of December 2018 turned out to be disastrous thanks to competition from titles like "Aquaman" and "Bumblebee." Even worse, the relative obscurity of the source material compared to "Lord of the Rings" meant there just wasn't a massive fanbase or level of curiosity to see how this adaptation turned out. "Mortal Engines" ended up sputtering out so bad that it lost $174.8 million for all of its financiers.

John Carter (2012)

It feels almost unfair to once again belabor the financial shortcomings of "John Carter." The titular lead of this Andrew Stanton blockbuster was once synonymous with some of the most popular sci-fi novels on the planet. Now, thanks to this 2012 film's dismal box office run, "John Carter" is largely associated with one of the costliest misfires in the history of Hollywood. It's hard to imagine an outcome where "John Carter" managed to become profitable, though, given its enormous $263.7 million budget. That was a price tag that made "John Carter" more expensive than 2012 sequels like "The Avengers" and "The Dark Knight Rises."

Even if "John Carter" was likely doomed to be unprofitable, it was never expected to perform as badly as it did. Grossing only $282.7 million worldwide, "John Carter" managed to come in behind the global grosses of other notorious box office bombs of the same era like "Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time" and "Battleship." The sheer magnitude of "John Carter's" box office shortcomings was made clear shortly into its theatrical run once The Los Angeles Times reported the film would lose Disney $200 million. That was the kind of enormous loss that would stand out in all genres of cinema, let alone just among sci-fi films.

Thanks to https://www.slashfilm.com/898066/the-most-expensive-sci-fi-flops-in-history/ for info ...

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I'm disappointed that Titan A.E., John Carter, and Tomorrowland were not more popular. Good science fiction not only entertains, it informs - we need more of it.

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A lot of these movies have something in common.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

They're bad.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

John Carter is a solid watch, btw.

4 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 0

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I really enjoyed Titan AE and John Carter

4 years ago | Likes 83 Dislikes 0

Definitely the best ones on this list!

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

i didnt know that beezos was in pluto nash

4 years ago | Likes 116 Dislikes 0

it's where he got his space bug from

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

He should have used protection. As captain Kirk says, shields up.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

+1

4 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Still love watching Waterworld

4 years ago | Likes 32 Dislikes 0

such a great bad movie :)

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

I like it.. I'd easily drink a pint of Kevin Costner's recycled pee.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Titan A.E. was a decent flick that still holds up. Great kids movie, funny, a lil spooky, and great world building without getting bananas.

4 years ago | Likes 233 Dislikes 0

Literal world building.

4 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 0

Ha,

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Let's name it Bob.

4 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

You cant name a planet Bob.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Oh, so you're the boss now. You're the King of Bob.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I actually like Dark Fate and Titan A E

4 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 1

I think Dark Fate is a good ending to the original timeline

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Cat Tax is my favourite movie, I really wonder why it flopped…

4 years ago | Likes 52 Dislikes 1

Just me or is the resolution amazing?

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

" I zoomed on Cat Tax" is a phrase I never thought I'd utter but here we are.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

They usually flop for a second or two of belly rubs.

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Or a big sunbeam makes itself known

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

"[Spirits Within] is one of the best sci-fi movies ever made." - the most unrealistic thing in Life is Strange.

4 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

Some of these seem like "Flops" by Hollywood accounting. 600 million dollar box office for Transformers? Yeah it totally "lost money"

4 years ago | Likes 31 Dislikes 0

That's all that flop means. If it didn't make back its budget in the U.S. market, it's a flop.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Studios apparently only keep about half of box office money so a 250m budget with 100m that gets 600m in ticket sale is still a 50m loss

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Btw I said half for balance. 60% domestic and 20-40% overseas, so if a movie does way better outside the US its actually worse

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Bc I was curious, applying the numbers to the stats looks like about $250m result which could be less then they spent on production

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

This and it probably doesn't even include the toy sales, which has always been the point of Transformers, anyway.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Didn't Return of the Jedi count as a 'flop' because it didn't make back 'all its money'?

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yeah that one got me too. 'lost 100mil'. There's no way they spent 500mil on marketing and distribution...

4 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 2

studio pays all the budget but only makes 50-60% of the ticket price in the US and 40% overseas. That said is only a flop in comparison

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Doesn't that $40% in overseas mainly go to regional distributors?

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yeah, that's probably somebody cooking the books on a lucrative franchise. Some producer's brother has a marketing firm or something.

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

I don't know all the ins and outs, but a movie needs to make back several times its filming budget to be profitable. There is also...

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

... the marketing budget, which can be up to the filming cost again. Plus the ticket profits are split between the theater and studio, so...

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

... that cuts into the profit. In addition, profits from one film immediately go to funding the next, so breaking even isn't enough.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Yeah, that's "Hollywood accounting". It's mostly made up and ways to make movies seem like losses that aren't.

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

As Bowfinger put it: https://youtu.be/ttusVkoVTbs

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Battleship didn't flop because it didn't have a star, it flopped because it didn't have a story. Hollywood is basically an alternate reality

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Just because these movies flopped doesn't mean I don't still LOVE sme of them and will fight anyone that says they are garbage.

4 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

John Carter and Tomorrowland are among my favorite movies.

4 years ago | Likes 34 Dislikes 1

Tomorrowland was definitely an exec assassination. Love that flick

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Yeah Tomorrowland is fantastic.

4 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 2

Love watching them with the kids

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This entire post is copy-and-pasted from an article I read about 3 days ago on Screenrant or somewhere similiar.

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

"Titan AE", "Atlantis", and "Treasure Planet" were all GREAT animated sci-fi films! That they failed just shows there's no meritocracy...

4 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 0

... whatsoever in moviemaking success.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Treasure Planet was set up to fail and it was done deliberately by Disney execs who didn't like the directors.

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

I actually like Tomorrowland and Terminator: Dark Fate.

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Dark Fate was actually a decent T3. Better than anything after T2, at least. More philosophically in line and coherent with T2 than others.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

Dark fate was pretty solid. Kind of redundant with the Legion AI but all together not bad.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

A lot of these movies have one thing in common: next to no advertisement reach. It's like they were strangled in infancy by their studios.

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absolutely...without advertising no one goes to watch it...killed by the marketing department...

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

It’s not just the amount of advertising, it’s the quality. The amount of trailers that misrepresent the movie and have been responsible for

4 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

box office failings is quite high. For example, Donnie Darko was marketed as a slasher/horror movie, and audiences reacted poorly initially

4 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

due to it not matching expectations. Most movies on this list suffered the same fate. Despite a lot of these movies getting a cult following

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

and decent home video sales, studios want instant returns, and as a result, sequels, reboots and anything with a built in audience are much

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

preferred than anything that needs to build interest and attempt to appeal to a wider audience that really aren’t the target market.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Mortal Engines had too much advertising.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I remember seeing a lot of commercials for stealth. I saw the movie on Netflix years later. It sucked.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I didn't see any ads for Pluto Nash, the rest of those films were flogged pretty relentlessly, especially after opening weekend.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Many of these were very heavily advertised

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This. Also many reasons given in the post ignore the fact that some plots are just awful. Mars needs moms for example

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Examples for great movies that just don't get the marketing they need. Sadly we have the opposite sometimes.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I remember quite a lot of advertising for Pluto Nash, or at least seeing that smug-eddie-murphy poster all over the place for months.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I think I have a few online banner advertisements that I made as a designer when Titan AE came out

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Just noting that they were spending money on ad placements, but maybe putting too much in the then nascent world of online ads

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

IMO the biggest issue with Spirits was tacking on Final Fantasy, that gave people an expectation of a movie based on one of the games.

4 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

It was mainly a expose of of their technical abilities of the day. Also didn't help it was right when pirating became feasible.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

yeah it had some other issues too but overall, latching it to a brand it had no feel or connection to hurt the most.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

people set themselves up for false expectations. people were expecting FF7:Advent Children or w/e with none of the advertising saying such.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I liked Jupiter Ascending, & LOVED John Carter

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

FF Spirits Within very nearly killed Squaresoft, and was one of the driving forces behind their push to merge with Enix.

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

And they fired Sakaguchi because of it. Games have been meh ever since.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

X-2 & XII were both really good games that came after Sakaguchi's firing.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Hard disagree on XII. Uninspired story, characters that barely interact compared to previous titles and an useless main character (Vaan). /1

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I love the Viera and Fran and Balthier, but the rest of the game is really meh. The combat is grindy and the game does the cardinal sin of/2

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

failing show, don't tell by having political stuff read to us like we're in a bad history class. I'm sorry, I find it really lacking. /3

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I actually liked Pluto Nash for some weird reason

4 years ago | Likes 60 Dislikes 1

My names Felix Turanga, you never heard of me, cause you stupid!

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It was a goofy movie that didn't take itself too seriously. I equate it to Austin Powers Blade Runner. I don't understand the hate.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I figured it was for 2 big reasons. At least in that one scene.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Whatever you say, Eddie.

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

He said on camera that it was his one regret project.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

one of a few guilty pleasures in the list.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It wasn’t good but it wasn’t bad. It was very watchable. Which is more than I can say about most movies

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It has some really solid scifi elements to it. I think it’s great. I never stopped thinking about that tiny tripod gun.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Me too. It was delightfully silly.

4 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 0

I rewatched five times when it came out on Blockbusters. Going to watch it again.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I found it be an enjoyable movie. Is it a masterpiece of intelligent cinema? Absolutely no way, but I do not regret watching it.

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Jupiter ascending deserved a second chance, the world building was great and it was a new story

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I absolutely loved the universe they created and really wanted others to make movies in that universe, but the movie itself was soo bad!

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Jupiter ascending was a good story, and visually stunning. But Mila Kunis dragged it down, cause she cant act her way out of a wet paper bag

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

I remember thinking at the time: “what’s the annoying chick from that 70’s show doing here?”

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

One of the few films I have ever walked out of. My partner was bored. It got to 'bees recognise her as the Queen'. Just too boring and crap.

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

It's my favorite bad movie and it could have been great if the Wachowskis had had to listen to a story editor.

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

It feels like it was adapted from a book series and they were trying to fit it all into one movie. But nope.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It definetly makes a good base story for awesome fanfiction ???

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Watched dark Phoenix on an airplane, had multiple moments of “why is this so bad?”

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

There was one part where nightcrawler actually fights and does somthing that was neat. The rest was trash.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Battleship got much much much much MUCH MUCH MUCH more money than it should have.

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Personal take: the Wachowskis haven't made a good film since the OG The Matrix circa 1999.

4 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Yep. They peaked early. Shuda stopped writing and just directed stuff by other writers. A waste.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

They kind of made V for Vendetta.. With that said, I still agree with you. I think V for Vendetta is very overrated.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Then I was wrong cause for the most part I do like V For Vendetta.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Final Fantasy was doomed to begin with. My friends and I all thought it was going to related somehow to the video games.

4 years ago | Likes 45 Dislikes 0

Yup. Same

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Visually brilliant movie for the time though.

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Ah yes, like FF7 and FF8 are related? :D

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I just wanted some Chocobos!

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Thats fair.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

well they all feature similarities and certain reoccurring characters like there's always a Cid, so they are related

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Spirits Within also had a character with a similar name, Dr. Sid. Point is, people were assuming the film would be somethign it wasnt.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

people that liked the video games wanted it to be connected to them and were disappointed. people that didn't like the video games just

4 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 0

wrote it off because of the link. many people also wrote it off because 'its an animated movie, like a cartoon'.

4 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 0

This is still a huge issue in the west, And Especially the USA. People automatically see animated and think "it will be kiddie stuff"

4 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 0

That is there is still this idiotic cultural thought that animation, drawn or computer is for kids and cant be for older audiences.

4 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Those people need to be shown Ninja Scroll.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I find this thought so idiotic, especially considering that cartoons started out as a thing for adults originally.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

How? Even the video games aren't connected to each other.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

But at the time they still leaned more towards fantasy than sci-fi.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Exactly! It had a guy named Cid. It related as much as any of the games to each other.

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

And there were flying ships, well somewhat.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

FF12 did the name flying ships after summons as well.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Titan AE still remains one of my favorite animated movies.. Treasure Planet didn't do well but I consider one of Disneys all time best films

4 years ago | Likes 693 Dislikes 7

I would love to see that budget breakdown.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I liked it too but I think it could have been way better as a TV series with its in depth worldbuilding- no pun intended.

4 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 0

Intend your puns you coward.

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

There's a long YouTube video you should be able to find about how Disney worked to bury Treasure Planet. A fucking shame; I'd love a sequel.

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Didn't fox..... nvm I keep forgetting Disney has its tentacles everywhere now

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Bob

4 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

You can't call a planet "Bob!"

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

New Earth, Planet "Bob"

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Titan AE and Treasure Planet have large cult followings. People are still buying copies today.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

"I've finished my nap!"

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Loved that line. Always pops in my head when ppl mention naps or just waking from one

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Loved Titan AE but the story did feel rushed. It would have been an awesome series I feel.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Atlantis

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

All 3 of those movies are fantastic!

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Titan A.E was and is still awesome!

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

This!

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Seein all the love for Titan A.E https://i.imgur.com/RDtNu

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

+1111111111111111111111111111111

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

So I loved Treasure Planet and just recently found this https://youtu.be/J62nQSa335Y it's a Bulgarian TP from 1982! Seems to be same idea!

4 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

62 minutes needed for this link.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Havent looked into it yet if there was a source adaption for TP at some point or if both of these were just same idea from Treasure Island

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

English Felipe dubbed by Bryan Cranston

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Ooooh that makes some of the original comments I saw about it make more sense now :)

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Ooh! Apart from the goofy characters this is pretty neat! It really does have some great visuals. Soviet-era Eastern bloc animation...

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

... is generally under-respected.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

And they STILL fucking hired Michael Bay for the next transformers film, which will go on to ruin my memories of Beast Wars >:(

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

"A pricey tentpole cannot become a box office hit by VFX breakthroughs alone." - Avatar has entered the chat.

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

Dances with Smurfs

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm willing to bet that "James Cameron: director" had a bit to do with it's success.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I too enjoyed John Carter.

4 years ago | Likes 549 Dislikes 3

I loved these books growing up so I was fascinated to see them brought to life, but it could have been better.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Agreed. It was pretty good for an action movie, didn’t quite get the vibe from the books. That said I have watched it twice, still enjoyed.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

It was OK entertainment, but I definitely didn't see $263.7 million worth of film on the screen.

4 years ago | Likes 45 Dislikes 3

This was kinda how I felt. It was fun, but not like one of the most expensive films ever fun.

4 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

Same, and battleship wasn’t bad

4 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

Same. Watched it a lot of times. And Battleship too

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I enjoyed it, cinema was empty when I went to see it on it's opening weekend. So I get why it didn't get all the money.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

You mean Vir-Gin-Ya?

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Same. I also enjoyed Terminator: Dark Fate. Imo the best sequel after the original 2.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It was a great book series and they tried to cramb like 4 of them in one movie. I am bias because of the books I'll admit

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

it's kind of unfair how taylor kitch got the blame for that and battleship when they were clearly fucked from the go. carter was enjoyable

4 years ago | Likes 41 Dislikes 0

Nothing was going to make Battleship entertaining except maybe Brooklyn Decker going full monty for an hour and a half...

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Yeah poor Kitsch! That summer kind of put the nails in his coffin - at least as far as superstardom goes.

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

yeah, he didn't seem like leading material but he's not bad and those movies just cratered his career

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Loved John Carter.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The problem was the movie expected everyone to know who John Carter was, as opposed to an relatively obscure scifi character from 1912.

4 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 0

I remember all the trailers and promotions going 'Carter...' and the reactions being like 'Who, Carter from ER?'

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

1/ I think it would have done much better if marketing had told the public that it was from the same author as "Tarzan". Or if the title >

4 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

2/ had been "John Carter on Mars". It was a good movie but its marketing was abysmal. I suspect it might be worth re-releasing with better >

4 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

3/ advertising (although I very much doubt that will happen). It was planned as the first movie of a trilogy; I want to see the other two.

4 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

It was a decent take on the books. Was a fun film. The later books get kinda wacky too.

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Fun movie but needs a reboot from a production company not afraid to accurately depict Dejah Thoris imho

4 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 2

What was wrong with her depiction?

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

There are 3 things specified in the books about her appearance: black hair, red skin, no clothes. I suppose they at least got the hair right

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

They definitely gave the actress the “ruby tint” I had imagined from the books. They gave all the martians a good reddening. But then it /1

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

sounds like you had envisioned straight up red skin, whereas I remember it being a red tint. So I guess that’s a difference in /2

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I’m used to the comic book depiction but can’t link to an image or I’ll get banned. Just bonk me and send me to horny jail lol :P

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I only read the books, where she’s described as having “light reddish copper skin,” coal-black hair, beautiful face, and no clothes. /1

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

So I felt like the movie did an okay job (minus the no clothes bc Disney wasn’t going there!). I’ll have to check the comics out! 2/2

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I still love parts of battleship there is something about watching the old saliors come forward work with the new. And watching that ship /

4 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 2

If you think of the movie as an 80s movie, it's perfect.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Roll out and open fire that gets me everytime watching a big fuck off battleship do battle is cool.

4 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

That's fair. There's nothing realistic about it but that's the fun thing about movies. :)

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

OMG when they started calling out the alphanumeric buoys I laughed my ass off. Then I took my ex-Navy dad to it the next weekend.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0