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I’m sorry this isn’t Atlas related. I’m sorry it’s a pretty miserable post. Don’t read it if you don’t have the space or mental capacity. Don’t read it if you’re going to tell me not to feel sorry for myself.
This is my bathroom. My apartment has had a severe mold problem since I moved in. I’ve told the landlords, they don’t care. Previous tenants have told them. All they do is take the check and take care of nothing. There are now full on mushrooms growing in my fucking bathroom. I run a dehumidifier 24/7. I run two air filters. I can’t even afford my electric bill as a result. And there are still fucking mushrooms growing inside my apartment. I can’t do anything about the smell of mildew. I flipped out on my landlords this morning. I pay 35% of my income to live here and there is nothing cheaper anywhere. I make too much money to qualify for any housing programs. And yet, I can’t fucking afford a single fucking thing where I am.
I don’t even know what I’m asking for. I guess I’m asking for a fucking miracle. I need housing in Western Massachusetts. I need a landlord with a fucking soul. I need a fucking break.
I’ve told them at least 3 times that they never sealed the floor after replacing it. I literally wonder every time I take a shit if today is the day I fall through the floor and die. They literally don’t give a fuck about anything but taking my money.
I can’t get a clear photo, but there is so much black mold on the bathroom exhaust fan. All the clothes in my closet started to mold. Mold all over the outlets near the washer. My sink clogs with black mold once a month and they won’t clean or fix it. I can’t store anything under the bed or futon because it just turns to mold.
I flipped out today and told them they either get it professionally remediated, or everything is going in an escrow account until they fucking fix it.
I have no family. I have nowhere to go. I can’t even crash with anyone. I’m so fucking sick right now. My job is killing me. My dog is the only thing keeping me going. I’m not asking for money. I guess I am just hoping that maybe someone with property and a fucking soul might see this and want to help. Doubtful, given the wide world that is Imgur. So I guess if nothing else, I’m screaming this rage into the ether or asking for guidance.
The landlord said they will get someone out on Tuesday after I flipped the fuck out on them. If they don’t, not only am I withholding rent, I’m calling the health department. This doesn’t feel fucking legal. But there’s not help for tenants. We live in a world that protects property, not people.
I’m losing all my steam. All my will to keep going. The only thing I’ve got is my dog and now I’m worried that he’s also going to get irreparably ill from this. If he dies, I have nothing and I’ll be going right after him. I just need to get this all out. There’s no escape from this hell and I just wish my Endo would fucking end me. I’m tired. I so god damn tired.
margeree
Report them to the housing authority. Also, call your local tv, newspaper, and radio stations
NKato
Call the health department *NOW*, my dude. Do not just wait for them to remediate it. You want this shit DOCUMENTED THOROUGHLY by a professional.
Also, this unit is HIGHLY LIKELY to be condemned, with this level of mold and rot development. I need you to prepare for the risk that the city or county will condemn the building.
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MeowMachine12
"How DARE you be upset about upsetting events in YOUR life???"
Rascael
Spray down the walls with Kilz. It is a barrier paint that seals in walls Use a bleach solution to wipe down the walls first.
VolcanoHerder
While this may help temporarily, 1. Op shouldn't have to pay for or perform the labor herself (most lease agreements in my experience actually say it's not allowed to paint or do any work on the property) and 2. It sounds like there's definitely a contributing factor to the moisture (slow leak in the wall, improper drainage around the foundation, leaky roof - who knows) that needs to be repaired, not just bandaided.
dailydnb
I’ve gone to court against a landlord in Western MA and won. They have amazing tenant laws.
NKato
Give actual advice, please - steps to take, what to do, be detailed.
cousteau
"The landlord said they will get someone out on Tuesday after I flipped the fuck out on them" -- as I always say, you catch more flies with vinegar than with honey.
rattytom
You also kill more mold with vinegar. 😉
cousteau
My bet would be on bleach though. For mold. Tried it with flies and it turns out they don't like it at all.
TyrCarter
Landlord with a soul. Tall order. I feel for you OP. It surprises me that renting out places in that condition is legal
Carl99
*hugs* if its any consolation i'm having my own living arrangement issues right now, your not the only person struggling. Somehow we'll both get through this.
Zetor
#1 is that Calvin?
rattytom
That’s a kinda f’n terrifyingly accurate visual. 😬
PipWhipple
I don't have the knowledge to help with the serious stuff, but if you can afford some Zep brand cleaners, from experience they have a banger of a mold spray. If not, then a standard bleach/water solution should at least help keep some of that at bay in the short term! Hopefully what the others have said will help your larger situation.
UWAGAGABLAGABLAGABA
Put rent in escrow until they fix it.
SlippeyPetey2000
This is the answer.
If they move to evict, show up at the hearing with proof of the house condition and that rent has been deposited into an escrow.
Elonth
sadly will just get the evicted with this type of landlord. Get to the union first. Then if immediat eaction isn't taken to more drastic measures
BarryTheCyborg
You'd be protected in most places if you withhold rent, but put it in a separate escrow account until issues are fixed. Alternatively, in Mass, they could deduct remediation costs from their rent if they have documentation of complaints being ignored. They can still decide to not renew your lease and you should start looking for a new place, but at least you don't have to live in a moldy apartment.
UWAGAGABLAGABLAGABA
They can try. Make sure you go to the eviction hearing with emails, the pictures of living conditions, and proof of escrow. The judge will side with you on it.
sinned6915
As one whose profession is cases like this, the comments so far are well intentioned but somewhat inaccurate.
1. Documentation on your part is KEY! Inventory all the dates and times you have notified him of the problem. Any in writing? Embelish/exaggurate dates if you have to.
2. This is a BUILDING department issue, not Health Dpt. Call them.
3. Game the eviction process system to your advantage. Stop paying rent. Is there a security deposit in play too? Write that off at this point.
sinned6915
Find out eviction reporting in MA- if it shows up, act within the windows.
4. Do everything in writing! Seek out renters legal services - you might find them in college town like Worchester. They will have good info.
5. Send him a letter outlining the issue, your expectation of remedy.
6. Consult an attorney- many have to do pro-bono work. This is on e of those cases. Don't be afraid.
Good Luck!
Kalcibonie
Legally you can also post this with the name of the place so the public rips them apart. Or the american health stations.
mutedia
what kind of air filters are you running?
cousteau
Spray a fuckton of bleach diluted with water to get rid of some of the surface mold. I've found it works wonders (I used Cillit Bang Black Mould¹ Remover but I guess you can make your own by mixing bleach and water and putting it on a spray bottle; instructions likely available online). Problem is that if the source of the mold is below the surface, this will only be a temporary fix.
Maybe attaching the fungus to your next paycheck will help get your landlords to do something?
cousteau
¹ British spelling. I was in Ireland :D
IncognitoEnthusiast
Bleach will kill SOME mold, OP needs an actual fungicide at this point. Thankfully there are several cheap options almost anywhere.
cousteau
Yeah, it was meant as a temporary solution to at least remove the visible stuff. Proper solution would be to fix the root cause. Proper PROPER solution is to manage to get the landlords to do their frigging job, but that never happens. I hope OP can eventually leave that place and get something better; it's sucking her soul out. (Easier said than done, of course…)
JellybellyBushroot
I once rented a house that had laminated hardboard faux tiles in the tub/shower. I noticed being mildly sick for months. I then saw fungus just like yours emerge all along the base trim and grow even bigger then that in 24hrs. Got my landlord to replace everything with a new tub and real tiles. Of course she raised my rent shortly after...
noReallyIamPrincessBob
Unfortunately, I think it’s going to be a tough go for you regardless, because if it is as bad as you say, the apt/building may need to be shut down to repair. Get mentally prepared and keep looking for a new spot to live. I would ask the regulators if the landlord is responsible for housing his tenants (like in a motel) while the work is carried out. If he is not, then you may be put out short notice.
Keep reaching out - there’s help out there somewhere. Good luck!
spontaneous9
Seems like you probably need a plumber, unless your place is partly subterranean and that moisture is due to groundwater seepage. Good luck with this situation, OP. Hope you get it sorted soon.
Madchant
You do understand it's the landlords responsibility to do that, right?
pixelsnader
"Need" ≠ "responsible for". If my kid breaks a leg, they need a doctor, I have the responsibility to take them there.
MyDogTige
Definitely contact the health department. Even if they say somebody is coming out, contact them anyway. This way you will have backup for it. Is there a local news station that does a community action piece? That would be another option. Publicly humiliate them that way. I hope you can find an answer soon for both you and Atlas.
rjmmbc
Ugh, Imgur deleted my comment while I was checking info.
https://www.mass.gov/doc/105-cmr-410-minimum-standards-of-fitness-for-human-habitation-state-sanitary-code-chapter-ii/download
Your landlord is legally required to maintain a safe and habitable building that is up to code (410.500 iirc). You have the right to request an inspection (410.600) and if your landlord doesn't adequately fix the problem at their expense, the health department will do it and bill the landlord.
Report them.
rjmmbc
Also, quick guide to tenants rights in MA: https://www.mass.gov/guides/the-attorney-generals-guide-to-landlord-and-tenant-rights
noReallyIamPrincessBob
Is there info in that to tell you WHERE to report them? (TL:DR)
rjmmbc
The "state sanitary code" section of the second link says to use this site to find the local health board: https://uptocode.org/
sinned6915
Its not Health department, it BUILDING CODE enforcement. Those standards are part of the municipality ordinances and building standards. And what sucks is the process takes a LONG time.
FunInTheFLsun
He may have to cover the costs of a mold report with the recommend corrective actions. Local code enforcement doesn’t have the licenses or testing equipment so they will use the report as evidence in the code case. Even then, if the problem has spread to it he areas of the residence, you may be required to relocate while the work is being done but hope you can return.
rjmmbc
It's also illegal to require the tenant to pay for it and there's a whole list of actions that will be considered illegal retaliation if they happen within 6 months of a report being made.
Unfortunately it doesn't say who covers the cost if tenants have to permanently or temporarily relocate. :/
BarryTheCyborg
In Mass, the landlord is required to cover temporary lodging while code issued are remediated.
Oatmealman1
Report to heath inspectors?
FoxVoxDK
Even if something gets done, the entire flat or building may be condemned. This is not safe for habitation.
rattytom
Stop waiting, kid. Stop playmg by the rules. There are none. Don’t do sh#t. F#%k them. So with that said…lets start with some legit questions to give the community an idea of how to help/ direct/ suggest for you and Atlas. 1) What do you do for work? 2) Why are you still there? 3) What is keeping you there? ( ei: fam / climate / lease / ancient curse ) 4) What do you want to do / go?
Cranbananarama
Per the post, they're there because it's what they can afford and kept there because...well, likely same.
rattytom
At this rate, for the sake of their mental and physical health, they both clearly CANNOT afford to stay there any longer. Otherwise something really will break.
anarchoFeline
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rent_strike
PythonIndentAwwwYiss
In many jurisdictions this is a bad idea. Judges may say that you were acting in bad faith, blackmailing, etc. Go through the proper channels first. And perhaps get actual legal counsel from somewhere other than an image board comment section.
cousteau
Yeah, this looks like the kind of thing where the law sides with the landlords/corporations/rich.
TheDefective
Allow me to inform you about receivership. https://www.masslegalhelp.org/housing-apartments-shelter/repairs-bad-condit">ivership">https://www.masslegalhelp.org/housing-apartments-shelter/repairs-bad-conditions/receivership https://www.mass.gov/guides/neighborhood-renewal-division-housing-receivership-manual As a Fellow MA resident that hates landlords with the burning passion of 10,000 sons pushed from their land during the enclosure movement... Let me also encourage you to check for the local tenant's union.
iovebeans
Also, if you haven't, put the complaint in writing. Email the tenant and include the photos.
adamlstf9
Email the landlord*. Sorry, I’m pedantically drunk rn.
afterdarkart
As a fellow MA resident please do this. And in the mean time @OP how far west? I live between Gardner and Athol and can try to find something for you and the pupper.
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
*suns (sorry). Unless you've got a very large family all with VD?
TheDefective
Oh boy, you don't know about enclosure? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enclosure Where the common lands were stolen acre by acre from all not born into noble bloodlines? Where highwayman and burgermeister conspired to close the trap known as Rent? Wait till you find out about the Malthus vs Ricardo rent debate then lol.
Zombieds
You think people didn't have to pay to use land before enclosure?
TheDefective
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman I'm Irish you fucking idiot.
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
All fair points. However the idiom is "burning suns"
TheDefective
Amazingly, I'm not bound to speak exclusively in existing idioms, and was intending to adapt a common turn of phrase or colloquialism with a substitution of a homophone to indicate a burning rage in a displaced people, in a manner not possible in the spoken word. Ya fuckin wonk.
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
You also dont need to get so up tight about a poorly executed joke about sexual transmitted diseases. Ya fetrid cockwomble