I hate corporate America

May 1, 2021 11:50 PM

Findrek

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My company recently posted a new position in another department. They want someone to develop, maintain operate a new system for inventory and equipment management because things have been going missing and nobody is taking responsibility. They've recently secured and separated the area where this inventory is and seem serious about investing in it, and the project seems challenging, new and fun so I applied.

Next day HR contacts me and says they won't interview me for this. As a management member who has recently successfully overhauled two areas of my own department to a lot of praise of our owner and the CEO, I was a bit taken back and pushed to find out why. Eventually they just admitted they were looking for a entry level individual making less then any other employee I know of in our company and assumed I'd never consider such a drastic pay cut. Reminder this is to develop and run a system (both computer and physical) to protect hundreds of thousands in parts and equipment.

I immediately started talking directly to their department management about how insane this is. I told them feel free to exclude my application, but that its unfair to expect that work for that pay, and that they are simply setting themselves up to fail and lose even more inventory if they are paying that price, especially an outside hire. I haven't barked up to big bosses yet, but I am seriously considering cause it just makes us look horrible, not to mention is just asking for more loss.

My company (at least my department) is usually better then this, I work here because I sleep better knowing my teams make a decent wage vs going somewhere else so I can personally get a little bit more. Its just infuriating that its next to impossible to find a job were you don't find at least a little of this scumbaggery. Asking a trained professional to help protect your wealth for the same pay as what the Arbys across the street is hiring line cooks for (according to their window posting) is just ludicrous.

*than

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Totally insane.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Employers complain they can't find any workers. HOW ABOUT YOU GREEDY ASSHOLE CEOs ACTUALLY PAYING A LIVING WAGE WITH DECENT BENEFITS???

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And to Bezos and other mega-billionaires of his ilk, just how much $$$ is enough for you?

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Had an interview with a big corporation who wanted a degree in the field, wanted nights and weekends to work at their data center and only

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Wanted to pay $13/hour

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This is a huge part of why we need to push for a thriving wage. Keeping the minimum wage so low drags ALL wages down across the board.

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

My last job tried that but with student interns. Bless their souls they tried their best

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Good luck. Decisions have already been made that never and won't include you. Bark all you want, but accept the results.

5 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

Sadly. It also does no one any good if I kicked and screamed until I got fired, so that is really the only option.

5 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Imagine having to teach your direct manager several marketing disciplines and behind a 1-man marketing team for an entire company 1/2

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Only to be fired for "poor performance" without a performance review.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Welcome to the real world

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Is this what it looks like when wages are depressed for so long? Employers just expect to be able to do complicated shit dirt cheap?

5 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

Yes.

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Only thing I'd say about Arbys or FF in general is that you are likely to only get part time hours and no benefits.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You're more professinal than me - I'd have laughed and said 'you're so fucked'

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

OP, my company makes part and tool inventory control software. It took 3 senior eningeers 3 years to develop our latest version.

5 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 0

I used the term develop because they did, but I assume they will be contracting a program and this person will be adapting/implementing 1/

5 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

the thing, but I could be wrong. Not 100% as a never got the interview 2/2

5 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Your probably right but even then thats basically data administration. anyone who does that for min wage probably going to fuck it up. They>

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

will have more losses and issues through incompetence than malice trying to push the bar that low for a job like that.

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Oh absolutely, that's why I am upset about, just wanted to clarify.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My dad wrote a system like that from the ground up like they want and he was making more than that, In 1980

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I had a manager who wanted to hire a full stack developer but they wanted someone just out of college so they could pay $30k

5 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

You hit it on the head. They don't care about succeeding - they just want to pretend to be doing something about the problem.

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I'm starting to think they need laws or regulations about this kinda shit.

5 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

Its age discrimination which is illegal, talk to the EEOC

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

In this case its not about their age. Its about HR not wanting to pay for the quality required.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Almost impossible to regulate. Unions do work though.

5 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

*than

5 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

so the person in charge of making sure nothing goes missing will be the lowest paid person there? Thats a recipe for disaster.

5 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 0

It’s actually a recipe for embezzlement.

5 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

You absolutely should bring it up to the bosses, you're a manager it's totally your prerogative! Not to mention it's a smart move.

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Those on leadership that can affect positive change have a responsiblity to. If your leadership fails to understand that, it's on them.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I probably will on Monday if I don't like what I hear from the department. Only feels grimy to complain because I applied, but you are 1/

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

correct that as management my current position dictates I bring it up, regardless of my application for the position. 2/2

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Absolutely, it isn't unreasonable to make it clear your application has little bearing on the overarching problem.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You're never wrong to look out for your people, or even potential people.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Hate to be that guy, but maybe consider the possibility that their department management does not want the inventory loss problem solved? /

5 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Brining the issue up to upper management may be kicking corrupt hornet's nest, if you get my meaning. Decide on how paranoid you are first.

5 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Fair concern. I have enough weight at this company though and good enough performance that the risk is fairly low though, so not to worried.

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

"You get what you pay for": Pay should always be commensurate with the necessary prerequisites, and value added to the organization.

5 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Reminds me of an old restaurant I worked for. They underpaid us (duh), and didnt tip the kitchen at night. So we started stealing spendy +

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

cakes and brownies from the freezer at night, smuggling them out like pros. And mixing booze into our staff soda's when working. Business +

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Ah that brings back memories. I stole so much crab and smoked duck legs and fine cheeses from work. Musta stole 1lb/crab every other day

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Hell yeah. We were stealing steak & crab on friday nights. Every other night it was these fancy "death by chocolate" cakes. $40 each!

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

needs to learn. You get what you pay for. And if you dont pay, some of us will happily steal/sabotage/espionage for pennies.

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Ick, I do not miss restaurant work. That sounds pretty par for the course, especially in that industry.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I literally had lectures on this precise phenomenon at college. Workers will have NO interest in your business success if you screw them

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

and may well actively sabotage it.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I have a story for that. Laid off at the end of 2019 from a document destruction company. Shitty one. Sounds like fuck-it. Bought out our +

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

amazing local company. Hostile type. Ran the place into the ground, tripled prices or worse. Doubled or tripled workload. So near the end +

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

interns reading this like

5 years ago | Likes 252 Dislikes 3

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5 years ago (deleted Sep 1, 2022 8:30 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Wonder what field. My software engineering internship was half the pay of full-time, but that was still nearly triple my bookstore job.

5 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Intern should always be paid.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's shit like this that makes me scared about trying to go back to school at age 36.

5 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

I went back to college for my 2nd degree at age 36. Am 39 now. Wasn't worth it. I 2nd others: drop out, learn a trade or hands on

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If you have any IT oriented skills, Cybersecurity - standards have gone through the roof. Sec+ cert is quite good right now.

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I have a Associate of Applied Sciences for "Computer Support Technician" that I've literally never used as I've never been able to get...

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

...even an interview for anything other than fucking Best Buy.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Personal recommendation, from my experience: learn the new trade, but don't waste your time and money on college

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I make about 40k a year now, but it's working 45-70hrs a week in a factory where you can't sit down at all during your shift.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Damn, I'm sorry, that's pretty fucking brutal

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Arby’s. Dang it. Now I’m hungry.

5 years ago | Likes 36 Dislikes 1

We would be friends, I can tell.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

We have the meats.

5 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

Specifically for $3.50 per lb, out back of the resteraunt, cash only. No cops.

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Loch ness monster, is that you?

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Welp. I hope your company enjoys loosing thousands of parts.

5 years ago | Likes 163 Dislikes 5

*loooosing

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeah, seriously. This needs to be brought to the bosses or at least a risk assessor

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The loose ones just lose themselves.

5 years ago | Likes 45 Dislikes 0

in the music, the moment: you own it, you better never let it go, yo.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

When the position is filled, can you give us the employees name? Might be nice to get some cheap parts.

5 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

He was trying to show that you meant “losing” rather than “loosing” in your comment.

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Honestly if this is the kinda shit your employer is pulling I can see why people are stealing from them. I hope they never get caught.

5 years ago | Likes 34 Dislikes 1

Like I said, at least in my dep. they're much better. That said, I do kind of hope they see record loss and the dep. gets overhauled for it

5 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 0

If I were hiring and got informed that the applicant was an imgur user, I just might be less inclined to hire them due to these comments.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 9

Then you'd be a moron. Sample size: 1

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

As opposed to paying them fairly for the job you're hiring them to do. Good to know.

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I'd just pay fairly to someone who doesn't hang around the thieves guild in their free time.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm on the other end of this. Putting in for "entry level" positions but am told I need 3-5 years of experience in that specific position.

5 years ago | Likes 571 Dislikes 1

Try restarting same career entry level with 10 years of experience

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Position: Requires a college degree. First day on the job: "forget all that stuff you learned at college"

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Report those companies to the Better Business Bureau, they love hearing about those companies.

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

This. Been looking for years and I'm starting to believe entry level doesn't actually exist anymore and it's all a lie

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I got incredibly lucky. They were looking for someone with a lot more experience but took a riak on me due to the interview

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

My company pays well but recently opened an “entry level” position requiring advanced mechanical & computer skills. Def not entry level

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Wells Fargo refused to hire entry level for an entry level position for me to learn entry lvl position job.. now I work groceries.. and cry.

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I am overqualified for entry level jobs based on experience (10 years) but underqualified based on no degree for everything else. 1/2

5 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

So I said fuck it and I'm going back to school to change fields even though I liked my work. 2/2

5 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

At least you'll now be qualified for those entry level positions.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Entry level wages

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I'm so tired of being considered entry level with 5 years experience after summer/college jobs in field.

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Information Security?

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Pretty sure entry level infosec is just a myth.

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

No shit. I have over 10 years of IT experience. Been trying to move into infosec for years.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Oof. And then a dude I met in college because a senior sec analyst as his first job.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Became*

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

He knew someone.

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Yeah it took me about a year of searching to find a company that would hire me for an entry level position with my summa cum laude degree.

5 years ago | Likes 88 Dislikes 0

Yea, college connections are a bigger factor for being hired.

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Was the degree relevant to the field every time?

5 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

My degree covers a pretty broad range, but yes it was.

5 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Summa cum laude is mighty impressive at that . Good luck

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Thanks, I did end up finally getting a job. Apparently the company I already work out didn't know I was looking for a job, even though I

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

When you enter the real world you will understand that a degree is a degree GPA doesn't mean squat.

5 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 18

Can't speak for all fields but if u don't have at least a 3.0 in accounting you won't get hired anywhere except govt. Which is the worst.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Well considering I have worked for John Hopkins Northrop and Lockheed. 3 very well paying companies I have never once bee. Asked for GPA

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

im sure if we narrow down your age and ur history we can find an offsetting reasonin for those.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

GPA matters a bit cuz some internship positions (via the school) depend on GPA. Those internships are a good way to get into the real world

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

A significant number of the places I was applying for specifically asked for GPA of 3.5+. And almost all asked for GPA on the application.

5 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 1

Try listing your GPA on USAJobs see how many hits you get with that lol. Things that matter are disability, vet status, degree, experience.

5 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 14

...did you not read "a significant number specifically asked for high GPA"?

5 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 4

They absolutely do care, especially if it's particularly high in a good degree.

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