Tsunamis, volcanos, earthquakes, flash floods, wildfires, tornadoes... none of those give you even a tenth of the warning time that hurricanes do. There's no fucking excuse to not be prepared. We can debate about evacuating or not, but driving in that shit is clearly idiocy.
I have two sisters that live in Florida. One stays there full-time, the other has been in New York all summer. I tried to talk the full-timer into coming up here to ride out the storm, but she refused. Well, I figured at least I have one sister smart enough to not be in Florida right now. Nope. Turns out the one that's been in NY decided to go back to Florida. Yesterday. Florida people, I swear.
Its weird seeing republican comments online about this whole ordeal- Talking about how kamala (and biden) are just offering help for political reasons. "Those damned democrats! Theyre just offering to help us to make themselves look good!".
Part of one storm chaser teams stream was telling several families with small children that the beach is not a great place to be, right around the moment you expect the landfall of the outer eye wall and the flooding to start. Some people genuinely seem to not know that.
Anybody on a beach during a hurricane about to make landfall at that location is either a complete and utter idiot, a storm chaser, or Jim Cantore from the Weather Channel.
Yeah. These guys, even if they come across as frat lads sometimes, have PhDs and experience doing that. These families really don't.
I appreciated that the younger newbie storm hunter team (Connor something) consciously stayed with the northern wall, out of the surges way. The more experienced crew around Timmer went straight into it, but they also knew when to not stay somewhere.
watching a palm tree get knocked over so easily is unnerving. Palm trees are native to coastal regions. They're adapted to storms in a way few trees are. And it just snapped.
That's the point. It didn't "just snap". There is a hurricane around it, and every single person in a car there knew this and still chose to do this. Idiots.
That's a Royal Palm. They grow extremely high, and the roots are just a small ball, as you can see in this video.
One of their hurricane adaptations is that palm trees are fine with after they've fallen over. The problem is when people install them for decorative purposes like this they're usually very choosy about how they want them to be arranged, so when they fall over whoever is in charge just cuts them up and installs a new tree instead of just letting the tree live
Parking lot palms are different from for example the 4 in my backyard. Been there their whole life so theyâre rooted. Parking lot palms are transplants.
They are 100% not grass. Grass and palms are both monocots, but they're only very distantly related. Calling palms a grass would be like calling crocodiles lizards. Just because they share similar structures and have a shared evolutionary history, doesn't mean they're the same thing.
They have very shallow roots and frequently fall over in heavy wind. Also, as a general rule with exceptions, the system is not much larger than the canopy. They evolved to fall over versus breaking in half.
Only coconut palms have shallow roots. Most palms have a taproot that goes all the way down to the water table. They use it as population control: As long as there is enough water, seedlings' taproots will reach the water table before they die for lack of water. When there are as many established trees as the groundwater can support, they wind up drinking the water table down below where a seedling can survive long enough to grow a taproot to it, and no more new trees can move in.
That said, this one clearly broke, so probably the trunk and roots were rotten from overwatering and not forcing it to put down a taproot to reach the water table.
There's a storm chasing stream that follows 3 teams of storm chasers and i have a few observations:
-Most storm chasers seem to be guys and the types of guys who can't help but scream, "Whoooaaaaa Storm Surge! Storm Surge! Power flash! You got that power flash? Power flash! Storm Surge coming! Storm surge! Power flash! Power flash! Storm surge!" for hours on end.
-A surprising amount of families with small children are chosing to visit the beaches in the direct path of the southern (spinning>
Haha, that fits it pretty well. There is South-Park-esque comedy to it, when they sit there for 2 hours, watching the water slowly flowing in and scream "Storm surge! The storm surge is coming in. This is it, guys! Storm surge! Whoaaaa, It's huge!"
Besides how actually dramatic a hurricane is, it's a bit like screaming "The paint is drying! It's drying now! Whoaaa, did you get that on camera? There! THERE! It's drying!!"
towards the land, pushing the storm surge) eye wall right before or as the wall makes landfall. People walking around with their phones filming the flood rolling in. This makes the death tolls of hurricanes much more explainable to me.
-Theres an absolutely shocking amount of people (1 would be shocking) that have to remain at their work post during a hurricane??? One of the storm chaser teams came across a security post at the entrance to a residential buildings parking lot. They stopped, >
I found one that keeps talking about a WALL OF MADNESS which we are GOING INTO.. he kept hitting debris on the road because he was texting or something while driving in the hurricane.. I had to look away
asked if they were allright and they said they had residents remaining in the apartment complex, so they had to keep guarding it. Like WHAT? This makes another part of the death tolls of hurricanes much more explainable to me. I hope Sec-Guard is okay. I hope their boss is not.
Yeah. They're the same ones that scream HUGE WEDGE! HUGE WEDGE! POWER FLASHES! DEBRIS! HUGE WEDGE! SUPPORT US ON PATREON! every 5 goddamn seconds when chasing tornadoes.
Well....that's arguable. If in a mandatory evacuation zone they don't legally have to and they can probably sue for unfair dismissal if their employers retaliate. If it's not a mandatory evacuation zone, well fuck that anyway, would rather be fired than dead myself!
That was right in the major storm surge area close to the sea. I realls hope they abandoned that gatehouse. It's not as if you can expect looters to come diving through that gate at that point.
necessity
Not very sporting since they don't move terribly quick and they're easy to spot. I can think of much tougher things to chase.
AntRam95
Boss said they have to be at work
ucandcantunc
Darwin never sleeps
ArcaneM37
Tsunamis, volcanos, earthquakes, flash floods, wildfires, tornadoes... none of those give you even a tenth of the warning time that hurricanes do. There's no fucking excuse to not be prepared. We can debate about evacuating or not, but driving in that shit is clearly idiocy.
mikeatike
In facsist Florida, hurricane chase YOU
Turboslacker
You can tell how long it's been since the last big hurricane by how tall the trees are
Elrohn
Truth.
North of PCB....still saplings growing due to Michael.
partimevillain
Make sure to tip your dashers!
Echo18
I have two sisters that live in Florida. One stays there full-time, the other has been in New York all summer. I tried to talk the full-timer into coming up here to ride out the storm, but she refused. Well, I figured at least I have one sister smart enough to not be in Florida right now. Nope. Turns out the one that's been in NY decided to go back to Florida. Yesterday. Florida people, I swear.
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
That's a great name for a drink
SecondSince
I'd like to go out during a storm and just ruthlessly take out those idiotic chasers. "Welp, guess the storm got them. So sad..."
BayazTheBenevolent
There's something wrong with Floridians, something fundamentally broken about their perception of reality. Do they just all have a death wish?
JustAnotherRabidToaster
It's all the salt in the air, it's dried up their brain.
wodansring
when it was coming close to landing, it drained a large amount of water out of the Tampa bay area.
floridaman went out in groups to the flats đ¶
Jimmytheeel
Half of them are on their way to work their shift at waffle house.
Huhwhatcrazy
Curfews?
measuredby5
It's insane, stay around to watch but when you get hurt, cry about it.
littlecoatfatguy
These are the same people who angrily demanded the ârightâ to go to Applebees in March 2020.
VinnyVeritas
the "florida man" joke is NOT a myth
vintagebroad
stupid gonna stupid
VonDiesel1977
I'm just waiting for the video of someone firing their gun at the Hurricane at this point.
AnthonyBC
Wouldnât matter it would just be thrown back. Milton took a self defense class. https://i.imgur.com/z3hYCt0
ubermonkey21
TheFastpaws
There are always fools about.
mickeygtiger
Them democrats making this weather with their science. The hurricane wouldnât dare under Trump.
Dolenmorgul
Damn those democrats and their storm machine /s
Sidewaysgts
Its weird seeing republican comments online about this whole ordeal- Talking about how kamala (and biden) are just offering help for political reasons. "Those damned democrats! Theyre just offering to help us to make themselves look good!".
iananimated
Because that's the only reason they themselves would do it.
Bimmler
It's what they themselves would do. They can't fathom altruism.
76000BatteryLlamas
Florida is full of Florida people
AgentDoggit83
*stupid*
Notoom
My buddy in Florida is staying even though there's projected flooding in his area still
screendler
Source? /s
NotAHugeSpider
As a native Floridian, yeah. There's not enough single braincells to go around, and most Floridians don't want to share it when they have it.
Sensiblyinteresting
Floridians are the human equivalent of an orange cat
NotAHugeSpider
As a Floridian and a frequent target of the Cat Distribution System, that is definitely a powerful insult to orange cats.
OmNachoMama
As a Floridian, most don't take it when they're turn comes
KidShenck
Not for much longer, I'm guessing.
BipedalHumanoidWithSlightlyDifferentNoseRidge
Not storm chasers, Floridians...
NotAHugeSpider
In MAGA Florida, storms chase you!
mercyPandaRunner
Part of one storm chaser teams stream was telling several families with small children that the beach is not a great place to be, right around the moment you expect the landfall of the outer eye wall and the flooding to start. Some people genuinely seem to not know that.
TohmaytohTohmahtoh
Anybody on a beach during a hurricane about to make landfall at that location is either a complete and utter idiot, a storm chaser, or Jim Cantore from the Weather Channel.
mercyPandaRunner
Yeah. These guys, even if they come across as frat lads sometimes, have PhDs and experience doing that. These families really don't.
I appreciated that the younger newbie storm hunter team (Connor something) consciously stayed with the northern wall, out of the surges way. The more experienced crew around Timmer went straight into it, but they also knew when to not stay somewhere.
RetrogradeLlama
It's not like there's a curfew or anything. Oh, wait... there is...
NuclearMonk
Probably out gun shopping.
ilhares
Curfew doesn't pay the hours I missed at work, right? Yay, capitalism!
sumthinsumthinsumthin
Either way ...
antagonizeyou
People just living in the moment
RetrogradeLlama
You can be out. You're just not supposed to be driving on the roads.
ianrl337
remembering Andrew from years ago, they are idiots
TohmaytohTohmahtoh
Living *briefly in the moment. Being charitable in wishing they continue to live after that moment...
HeresYourSauce
watching a palm tree get knocked over so easily is unnerving. Palm trees are native to coastal regions. They're adapted to storms in a way few trees are. And it just snapped.
stronomer
That's the point. It didn't "just snap". There is a hurricane around it, and every single person in a car there knew this and still chose to do this. Idiots.
zafner
That's a Royal Palm. They grow extremely high, and the roots are just a small ball, as you can see in this video.
One of their hurricane adaptations is that palm trees are fine with after they've fallen over. The problem is when people install them for decorative purposes like this they're usually very choosy about how they want them to be arranged, so when they fall over whoever is in charge just cuts them up and installs a new tree instead of just letting the tree live
MakeItBackAlright
They are nature's best effort at anti hurricane engineering. Surpassing that is very, very concerning.
Vonph
"You merely adopted the storm. I was born in it, moulded by it..."
*snap*
miakkamisfit
Parking lot palms are different from for example the 4 in my backyard. Been there their whole life so theyâre rooted. Parking lot palms are transplants.
bladderinfection
That one looks like itâs on top of the architectural mound. Not surprising that a transplanted tree fell over, especially one on the high point.
TsubakiTragic
... perhaps because palms aren't trees.
TK421isAFK
Exactly. They're a grass, and their "trunks" are thousands of parallel grass blades, so they're very flexible, like your mom.
QualityPotates
They are 100% not grass. Grass and palms are both monocots, but they're only very distantly related. Calling palms a grass would be like calling crocodiles lizards. Just because they share similar structures and have a shared evolutionary history, doesn't mean they're the same thing.
TsubakiTragic
My mum was an asshole who defined "inflexibility".
TK421isAFK
She just needs a couple margaritas and some lube.
TsubakiTragic
been dead 6 years now
DongleDingler
Yea, such a tightass
BanditKablooie
They have very shallow roots and frequently fall over in heavy wind. Also, as a general rule with exceptions, the system is not much larger than the canopy. They evolved to fall over versus breaking in half.
OliverOtter
Only coconut palms have shallow roots. Most palms have a taproot that goes all the way down to the water table. They use it as population control: As long as there is enough water, seedlings' taproots will reach the water table before they die for lack of water.
When there are as many established trees as the groundwater can support, they wind up drinking the water table down below where a seedling can survive long enough to grow a taproot to it, and no more new trees can move in.
OliverOtter
That said, this one clearly broke, so probably the trunk and roots were rotten from overwatering and not forcing it to put down a taproot to reach the water table.
subparsubpoena
So, it'll just stand back up after the storm?
Leonon
Well, kinda
unremarkableasterisk
Yup. Like a boner.
Hibs06
This is why in over 95% of the world theyâre referred to as boner trees.
SuperIncoherentRantingMan
A cockonut tree
mercyPandaRunner
There's a storm chasing stream that follows 3 teams of storm chasers and i have a few observations:
-Most storm chasers seem to be guys and the types of guys who can't help but scream, "Whoooaaaaa Storm Surge! Storm Surge! Power flash! You got that power flash? Power flash! Storm Surge coming! Storm surge! Power flash! Power flash! Storm surge!" for hours on end.
-A surprising amount of families with small children are chosing to visit the beaches in the direct path of the southern (spinning>
BobbyBoogie
They sound like fucking south Park characters lol
mercyPandaRunner
Haha, that fits it pretty well. There is South-Park-esque comedy to it, when they sit there for 2 hours, watching the water slowly flowing in and scream "Storm surge! The storm surge is coming in. This is it, guys! Storm surge! Whoaaaa, It's huge!"
Besides how actually dramatic a hurricane is, it's a bit like screaming "The paint is drying! It's drying now! Whoaaa, did you get that on camera? There! THERE! It's drying!!"
mercyPandaRunner
By the way, that's them. They literally characters that escaped from South Park.
https://youtu.be/9WwqfxXvZdY?si=s97oVf4IJuzE_28p
GabbyJayYay
Why do you say there is a stream but dont give us a link??
mercyPandaRunner
Just ask.
https://www.youtube.com/live/QVWXVsctjZM?si=5mpuyZoxJEvkNVu4
mercyPandaRunner
My favourite character is that dorky guy in the 70s outfit.
dlshark
.
mercyPandaRunner
towards the land, pushing the storm surge) eye wall right before or as the wall makes landfall. People walking around with their phones filming the flood rolling in. This makes the death tolls of hurricanes much more explainable to me.
-Theres an absolutely shocking amount of people (1 would be shocking) that have to remain at their work post during a hurricane??? One of the storm chaser teams came across a security post at the entrance to a residential buildings parking lot. They stopped, >
in70x
True but the storm surge⊠you get that flash??
WoopDeFrickenDoo
I found one that keeps talking about a WALL OF MADNESS which we are GOING INTO.. he kept hitting debris on the road because he was texting or something while driving in the hurricane.. I had to look away
mercyPandaRunner
That sounds fascinating. Aaaaannd the kind of thing i'd like to look away from too. Hope he is fine!
WoopDeFrickenDoo
the chat was eating it up. Everyone kept saying WALLL OF MADNESS!!
WoopDeFrickenDoo
and yes he made it through fine
mercyPandaRunner
WALL OF MADNESS 2024!
WHY CHOOSE THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS, IF YOU CAN CHOOSE THE GREATEST?
mercyPandaRunner
asked if they were allright and they said they had residents remaining in the apartment complex, so they had to keep guarding it. Like WHAT? This makes another part of the death tolls of hurricanes much more explainable to me. I hope Sec-Guard is okay. I hope their boss is not.
Ikwilstroopwaffels
Yeah. They're the same ones that scream HUGE WEDGE! HUGE WEDGE! POWER FLASHES! DEBRIS! HUGE WEDGE! SUPPORT US ON PATREON! every 5 goddamn seconds when chasing tornadoes.
mercyPandaRunner
Literally the same people.
varonicaED
Well....that's arguable. If in a mandatory evacuation zone they don't legally have to and they can probably sue for unfair dismissal if their employers retaliate. If it's not a mandatory evacuation zone, well fuck that anyway, would rather be fired than dead myself!
mercyPandaRunner
That was right in the major storm surge area close to the sea. I realls hope they abandoned that gatehouse. It's not as if you can expect looters to come diving through that gate at that point.
Lucallia
Just leave your post and say you got blown away by a tornado or something :D
Blank1612
Had to walk back from the next town over