Sep 24, 2020 11:16 AM
Lanhdanan
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jdbaker
The guy who works for the rich person who has the job title of "keep my money intact" doesn't care what you call it.
rtgensler11
I’m not rich and hate taxes.
airbreather
Just publish the income taxes of everyone who pays more than $1 million. People will compete for places.
RVME
The biggest anti-socialism freaks are the ones not paying ANY taxes.
s123man
Just gIve them a T-shirt that say's, "I spent 1-billion on taxes and all I got was this lousy T-shirt".
iamgrooooooooooot
To be honest, those 540 people might love it
IndianaJawns
FlyingGiantElk
Should have membership fees tracked and recorded, with a high score list. Nothing like dying with a better high score than your exes.
MirtoLegrand
This is brilliant.
TheGriffin
I prefer "Guillotine Insurance Funds"
johneventually1
I like the idea of a social contract between the people and it's government. We should call it a constitution or something snazzier
Taxes are the membership fees. Membership benefits vary depending on the color of your... or the amount of... Let's just say height
bluerazzgummy
Trump won’t like claiming he has the black card but won’t produce it to prove it
Kheldarn
Pass the Fair Tax. Problem solved.
lindabelchersfirstcousin
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SomeDetroitGuy
See, I think that when you hit that billionaire level, you should "prestige" and start over with $10 million and get a nice little pin you
can wear around. Then you can see how many times you can prestige and make that a competition and each time, you start over. Like CoD.
SteveNotSteve
"Rich people hate taxes." Yes, unlike the rest of us who fucking love watching our money disappear into vast, unaccountable bureaucracies.
batteryforeverlow
daguq
They do not avoid paying taxes because of what the taxes are labelled.
readbackmonkey
Great idea, but add some real perks, like they get priority processing of passport applications.
undernewmanagement
You misspelled 'immigration'.
TheDayTheBrainStoodStill
Sounds useful. When they get bored of their old wife, the new one can get priority processing when she's shipped in.
ShamalamaDingDing
Cheeto Chief will love the new wife thing. He might even be elated enough to leave office peacefully.
Easier to pay a PR team to figure out how him leaving office is = him winning and being the smartest and bestest. He'll waddle out promptly.
noctynight
The more taxes you pay on record, the more luxuries and premium discounts to govt services you have access to.
nolzvader
No hey listen, that actually would be fair. Explicitly for recorded personal income tax paid.
Would you honestly be mad if occasionally a dude budged ahead at the DMV with Platinum taxpayer card. Like he personally paid $3M of bldg
YurgenGrimwood
Yeah I wouldn't mind some entitled dickheads as long as they actually greatly helped society for those perks.
I honestly think this would work, I've seen rich dudes pay $3000 for an overnight to Japan for 1 day, just so they could retain status
LivingDeadX
Except no rich person wants the government to know how much they have... that's kind of the whole point of tax evasion.
Thetiredmechanic
Membership for what?
Wirdjos
Honestly, rebranding taxes as 'membership fees to the Greatest Country on Earth' might actually solve a lot of our anti-tax problems.
Jonnythetrout
Oh, so a poll tax. Cool.
katalavenoligoellenika
Washington Post story, January 12, 2045: In the 29th year of the reign of our Lord and Savior, RoboTrump, we remind you only card carrying
members of the Greatest Country on Earth club will be permitted to vote, eat and remain in the bunker, protected from the acid ocean.
Good job, guys. - not future me, because I'll be dead.
BorgClown
If you refuse to pay your membership fees, you get to live there, but you are not a full citizen and can't participate in politics.
stankginchfurbuger
Remember, citizenship is earned. I'm doing my part, are you?
tanebot
"$YourCountry Platinum Membership" send it.
secretdpp
So we're doing Shadowrun already? Thought we'd wait for the mutants to arrive first
Sorcatarius
It's easier to take away the mutants rights if you already have a caste system in place where people who have no rights to begin with exist
apollo1kitten1
Won't happen, cos they have lobby money to prevent this shit of happening to themselfes
LeJoop
Maybe have a “Premium membership” even? Like you pay over 50% tax and it’s over 1 million a year, you get premium membership
OhSureNowYouTellMe
Problem is they already do this but it's in the form of political "donations" and their membership includes legislative access.
leechdemon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVf035w14Yo
Mairoa
That's why it gets formalized and instead of one dude's pocket, it goes to a general fund for public services
If you want to buy the country, you're gonna do it in school lunches and medical care access, bottom up, one citizen at a time
If you're not selling this comment as a bumper sticker, you're doing the world a disservice.
bardman135
"President? How could he be president? He won't even prove he's a paying member!"
imeanYUUUGE
apmcg1011
"Millionaire in good standing"
Ingenious!
QuotesGoHere
Amazon Prime United States Membership Fee
The701
Prime Overlord for life: The living head of Jeff Bezos.
WhatsYourCovidStory
.
Sholk7
100% wealth tax on all money/property above 999 million. You get a plaque in DC with your name and some bs quote about all the hard work.
shelworth
You people really don't understand economics do you?
jerrykuhn3000
You people?
Lefties/socialists
evilcarp
You know, tax payers?
cauliflowersweetandsour
You guys do realize the wealthy pay more taxes per year than most of you make right?
MarsVtron
You do know they use tax loopholes for more than we make as well... right?
ConnectToReality
"YOu GuyS dO ReAliZe He BeAtS mE BeCaUse hE lOveS Me rIghT?"
giraffediver
Okay, but 10 million would be a drop in the bucket for Bezos but more than I'll make in my entire life
mikesheets19781
The top 1% pay 40% of all federal taxes... I think some entitled muppets here think they (1%) should pay 90% of there income towards taxes.
Miller16of16
In dollars or percent of income? In dollars - yes, in % income - no
CygloPargen
Every republican comment ever: "You guys do realize [ insert infuriatingly inaccurate and/or misleading phrase here ]"
Fireninja404
yes. my problem is with the companies and rich folk who abuse loops holes and tax heavens to pay nothing, which is less that all of us
Smacketywack
That may be so, but they’re not living at a subsistence level, which means the impact of paying taxes on their lives is negligible. Also
the ultra rich make most of their money through capital gains which are taxed at a significantly lower rate. Rich republicans like to
respond with, “Well then you should invest too and take advantage of this,” but again most people don’t have the disposable income to
become part of the investment class.
lagavulin16
The average American should be more concerned with fixing their monthly budget than long term policy change.
AlmostCertainlyNotPickles
They treat it like it. They get "membership" as free as they can, and if they can't get it for free, they leave.
They never leave. Millions are still millions, the greed will keep them around for every dime they can exploit.
Just cause they leave doesn't mean they can't keep business with the states
brigittebardog
The super rich never offshore their money, hide wealth, fly away in their jets, and buy foreign passports in response to tax hikes. Right.
It is almost like we should be charging them with tax evasion, confiscating their wealth and sending them to jail.
Right.... under what global government authority?
Extradition is a thing. But I was thinking their US assets.
TheKingRamen
I don’t think you have to be rich to hate takes. Our house hold income is just over 100k and I fucking hate them
DukeofKMS
Rich boi. I like taxes, cuz they pay for everything that is good in my country. I am no American obviously.
amop
If the rich paid their share, the rest if the brackets wouldn’t have to. It’s important to step back and see the whole picture
forscience6686
What I've been trying to tell people. The poor wouldn't need to begging for tax breaks if the rich didn't get so many.
What percentage the federal revenue should come from the top 10%
I crunched #s from 2005. If everyone paid a flat tax of 12% on ALL income it would have funded the fed budget 100%. Before I had kids I >
paid about 22%, even with two kids I pay about 12% on household income just under 100k. That flat tax number included payroll funded progrms
Working poor pay at least 6% just in payroll pmys matching from employeer = 12-13%. A lot of wealthy folks don't pay anywhere near 12%...
Flat tax is not the answer. The wealthy benefit more off the infrastructure built by those taxes, as well as damage it more.
It takes away incentive to game the code. And % based is progressive if it includes ALL income. And if you include payroll funded programs >
I think the wealth disparity at the top would mean stratifying by more than 10s of percents. If gains were taxed, i think income’d sort out
Yep
Right because you got to that point with no help from society...
Well I was kicked out of public school for possession of pot. Then dropped out of school altogether when I was 15. I did take GED classes
From a community education center but it’s any money it got was from local taxes and charity. Fed was not involved at all. I donate $50/mont
Not saying society can’t help people. Just that local is better fed is worse
Here in Colorado we get to vote on our taxes, thank you Tabor, and still people don't show up. We get what we vote, or not vote, for.
You like roads, firefighters, police, hospitals, airports, sewage, boat harbors, legal system? Our world is built upon shoulders of history.
yoginioftruth
@op If our taxes actually paid for just those things they'd be drastically reduced.
I’m not saying taxes are entirely bad. But the things your talking about represented less that 10% of the fed budget
AllGloryToTheDarkLord
Dont be silly, rich people love taxes. They rake it in like like toilet paper in a pandemic.. you'd love taxes too if you also didnt pay 'em
ButterfaceTaintClown
you'd love taxes if they were used to bail out corporations you had stocks and shares in, this inflating the ftse.
Also the uber rich make most of their money from investments, and capital gains are taxed at a much lower rate than salaried income.
givemewhiskeyorgivemedeath
Top 10% of earners in the U. S. pay about 70% of all the taxes. The bottom 50% pay about 3% of the total. The rich pay lots and lots.
That an indictment of how little the bottom 50% is being paid, those getting billions with employees on food stamps.
SuperSaiyanSasquatch
Except the top 10% also has 70% of the wealth of the country and the bottom 50% only has 1.6% of the wealth. Essentially, the bottom 50% 1/2
Pay proportionally double the taxes of the top 10%. Out of context numbers are worthless.
upthehillandtotheright
Proportionally the bottom pay more than the top.
agonarch
It's only accurate if you cherrypick anyway, like taking the top 10% instead of the top 0.01% (making 5+% of the income but not of 5% taxes)
thegreatwhiteblackartblackestmaster
The rich were being taxed at 70% or higher back in our "golden days". Now it's 30% or 0% with the right loophole.
AllysiaAiua
It's higher if you look back far enough. During ww2 it was upwards of 95%.
luxter7
Make America great would be taxing the 1%
Ooh ooh now do companies!
Amazon paid $0. In corporate tax, and received $26 million in tax refunds. Trump hasnt paid taxes in decades because he posts losses yearly
N8TheM8
Amazon $0 taxes because they operate close to zero income. Plus cities give them huge breaks to bring in jobs. Former Amazon drone here. 1/2
Not saying it's the way it should or shouldn't be, just stating what I know from the inside. 2/2
Trump lost 10 billion in 10 years!
Wow, what a great businessman
jdbaker
The guy who works for the rich person who has the job title of "keep my money intact" doesn't care what you call it.
rtgensler11
I’m not rich and hate taxes.
airbreather
Just publish the income taxes of everyone who pays more than $1 million. People will compete for places.
RVME
The biggest anti-socialism freaks are the ones not paying ANY taxes.
s123man
Just gIve them a T-shirt that say's, "I spent 1-billion on taxes and all I got was this lousy T-shirt".
iamgrooooooooooot
To be honest, those 540 people might love it
IndianaJawns
FlyingGiantElk
Should have membership fees tracked and recorded, with a high score list. Nothing like dying with a better high score than your exes.
MirtoLegrand
This is brilliant.
TheGriffin
I prefer "Guillotine Insurance Funds"
johneventually1
I like the idea of a social contract between the people and it's government. We should call it a constitution or something snazzier
johneventually1
Taxes are the membership fees. Membership benefits vary depending on the color of your... or the amount of... Let's just say height
bluerazzgummy
Trump won’t like claiming he has the black card but won’t produce it to prove it
Kheldarn
Pass the Fair Tax. Problem solved.
lindabelchersfirstcousin
SomeDetroitGuy
See, I think that when you hit that billionaire level, you should "prestige" and start over with $10 million and get a nice little pin you
SomeDetroitGuy
can wear around. Then you can see how many times you can prestige and make that a competition and each time, you start over. Like CoD.
SteveNotSteve
"Rich people hate taxes." Yes, unlike the rest of us who fucking love watching our money disappear into vast, unaccountable bureaucracies.
batteryforeverlow
daguq
They do not avoid paying taxes because of what the taxes are labelled.
readbackmonkey
Great idea, but add some real perks, like they get priority processing of passport applications.
undernewmanagement
You misspelled 'immigration'.
TheDayTheBrainStoodStill
Sounds useful. When they get bored of their old wife, the new one can get priority processing when she's shipped in.
ShamalamaDingDing
Cheeto Chief will love the new wife thing. He might even be elated enough to leave office peacefully.
TheDayTheBrainStoodStill
Easier to pay a PR team to figure out how him leaving office is = him winning and being the smartest and bestest. He'll waddle out promptly.
noctynight
The more taxes you pay on record, the more luxuries and premium discounts to govt services you have access to.
nolzvader
No hey listen, that actually would be fair. Explicitly for recorded personal income tax paid.
nolzvader
Would you honestly be mad if occasionally a dude budged ahead at the DMV with Platinum taxpayer card. Like he personally paid $3M of bldg
YurgenGrimwood
Yeah I wouldn't mind some entitled dickheads as long as they actually greatly helped society for those perks.
readbackmonkey
I honestly think this would work, I've seen rich dudes pay $3000 for an overnight to Japan for 1 day, just so they could retain status
LivingDeadX
Except no rich person wants the government to know how much they have... that's kind of the whole point of tax evasion.
Thetiredmechanic
Membership for what?
Wirdjos
Honestly, rebranding taxes as 'membership fees to the Greatest Country on Earth' might actually solve a lot of our anti-tax problems.
Jonnythetrout
Oh, so a poll tax. Cool.
katalavenoligoellenika
Washington Post story, January 12, 2045: In the 29th year of the reign of our Lord and Savior, RoboTrump, we remind you only card carrying
katalavenoligoellenika
members of the Greatest Country on Earth club will be permitted to vote, eat and remain in the bunker, protected from the acid ocean.
katalavenoligoellenika
Good job, guys. - not future me, because I'll be dead.
BorgClown
If you refuse to pay your membership fees, you get to live there, but you are not a full citizen and can't participate in politics.
stankginchfurbuger
Remember, citizenship is earned. I'm doing my part, are you?
tanebot
"$YourCountry Platinum Membership" send it.
secretdpp
So we're doing Shadowrun already? Thought we'd wait for the mutants to arrive first
Sorcatarius
It's easier to take away the mutants rights if you already have a caste system in place where people who have no rights to begin with exist
apollo1kitten1
Won't happen, cos they have lobby money to prevent this shit of happening to themselfes
LeJoop
Maybe have a “Premium membership” even? Like you pay over 50% tax and it’s over 1 million a year, you get premium membership
OhSureNowYouTellMe
Problem is they already do this but it's in the form of political "donations" and their membership includes legislative access.
leechdemon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVf035w14Yo
Mairoa
That's why it gets formalized and instead of one dude's pocket, it goes to a general fund for public services
Mairoa
If you want to buy the country, you're gonna do it in school lunches and medical care access, bottom up, one citizen at a time
Wirdjos
If you're not selling this comment as a bumper sticker, you're doing the world a disservice.
bardman135
"President? How could he be president? He won't even prove he's a paying member!"
imeanYUUUGE
apmcg1011
"Millionaire in good standing"
OhSureNowYouTellMe
Ingenious!
QuotesGoHere
Amazon Prime United States Membership Fee
The701
Prime Overlord for life: The living head of Jeff Bezos.
WhatsYourCovidStory
.
Sholk7
100% wealth tax on all money/property above 999 million. You get a plaque in DC with your name and some bs quote about all the hard work.
shelworth
You people really don't understand economics do you?
jerrykuhn3000
You people?
shelworth
Lefties/socialists
evilcarp
You know, tax payers?
cauliflowersweetandsour
You guys do realize the wealthy pay more taxes per year than most of you make right?
MarsVtron
You do know they use tax loopholes for more than we make as well... right?
ConnectToReality
"YOu GuyS dO ReAliZe He BeAtS mE BeCaUse hE lOveS Me rIghT?"
giraffediver
Okay, but 10 million would be a drop in the bucket for Bezos but more than I'll make in my entire life
mikesheets19781
The top 1% pay 40% of all federal taxes... I think some entitled muppets here think they (1%) should pay 90% of there income towards taxes.
Miller16of16
In dollars or percent of income? In dollars - yes, in % income - no
CygloPargen
Every republican comment ever: "You guys do realize [ insert infuriatingly inaccurate and/or misleading phrase here ]"
Fireninja404
yes. my problem is with the companies and rich folk who abuse loops holes and tax heavens to pay nothing, which is less that all of us
Smacketywack
That may be so, but they’re not living at a subsistence level, which means the impact of paying taxes on their lives is negligible. Also
Smacketywack
the ultra rich make most of their money through capital gains which are taxed at a significantly lower rate. Rich republicans like to
Smacketywack
respond with, “Well then you should invest too and take advantage of this,” but again most people don’t have the disposable income to
Smacketywack
become part of the investment class.
lagavulin16
The average American should be more concerned with fixing their monthly budget than long term policy change.
AlmostCertainlyNotPickles
They treat it like it. They get "membership" as free as they can, and if they can't get it for free, they leave.
Lanhdanan
They never leave. Millions are still millions, the greed will keep them around for every dime they can exploit.
AlmostCertainlyNotPickles
Just cause they leave doesn't mean they can't keep business with the states
brigittebardog
The super rich never offshore their money, hide wealth, fly away in their jets, and buy foreign passports in response to tax hikes. Right.
evilcarp
It is almost like we should be charging them with tax evasion, confiscating their wealth and sending them to jail.
brigittebardog
Right.... under what global government authority?
evilcarp
Extradition is a thing. But I was thinking their US assets.
TheKingRamen
I don’t think you have to be rich to hate takes. Our house hold income is just over 100k and I fucking hate them
DukeofKMS
Rich boi. I like taxes, cuz they pay for everything that is good in my country. I am no American obviously.
amop
If the rich paid their share, the rest if the brackets wouldn’t have to. It’s important to step back and see the whole picture
forscience6686
What I've been trying to tell people. The poor wouldn't need to begging for tax breaks if the rich didn't get so many.
TheKingRamen
What percentage the federal revenue should come from the top 10%
Miller16of16
I crunched #s from 2005. If everyone paid a flat tax of 12% on ALL income it would have funded the fed budget 100%. Before I had kids I >
Miller16of16
paid about 22%, even with two kids I pay about 12% on household income just under 100k. That flat tax number included payroll funded progrms
Miller16of16
Working poor pay at least 6% just in payroll pmys matching from employeer = 12-13%. A lot of wealthy folks don't pay anywhere near 12%...
forscience6686
Flat tax is not the answer. The wealthy benefit more off the infrastructure built by those taxes, as well as damage it more.
Miller16of16
It takes away incentive to game the code. And % based is progressive if it includes ALL income. And if you include payroll funded programs >
amop
I think the wealth disparity at the top would mean stratifying by more than 10s of percents. If gains were taxed, i think income’d sort out
Miller16of16
Yep
forscience6686
Right because you got to that point with no help from society...
TheKingRamen
Well I was kicked out of public school for possession of pot. Then dropped out of school altogether when I was 15. I did take GED classes
TheKingRamen
From a community education center but it’s any money it got was from local taxes and charity. Fed was not involved at all. I donate $50/mont
TheKingRamen
Not saying society can’t help people. Just that local is better fed is worse
forscience6686
Here in Colorado we get to vote on our taxes, thank you Tabor, and still people don't show up. We get what we vote, or not vote, for.
Lanhdanan
You like roads, firefighters, police, hospitals, airports, sewage, boat harbors, legal system? Our world is built upon shoulders of history.
yoginioftruth
@op If our taxes actually paid for just those things they'd be drastically reduced.
TheKingRamen
I’m not saying taxes are entirely bad. But the things your talking about represented less that 10% of the fed budget
AllGloryToTheDarkLord
Dont be silly, rich people love taxes. They rake it in like like toilet paper in a pandemic.. you'd love taxes too if you also didnt pay 'em
ButterfaceTaintClown
you'd love taxes if they were used to bail out corporations you had stocks and shares in, this inflating the ftse.
Smacketywack
Also the uber rich make most of their money from investments, and capital gains are taxed at a much lower rate than salaried income.
givemewhiskeyorgivemedeath
Top 10% of earners in the U. S. pay about 70% of all the taxes. The bottom 50% pay about 3% of the total. The rich pay lots and lots.
AllGloryToTheDarkLord
That an indictment of how little the bottom 50% is being paid, those getting billions with employees on food stamps.
SuperSaiyanSasquatch
Except the top 10% also has 70% of the wealth of the country and the bottom 50% only has 1.6% of the wealth. Essentially, the bottom 50% 1/2
SuperSaiyanSasquatch
Pay proportionally double the taxes of the top 10%. Out of context numbers are worthless.
upthehillandtotheright
Proportionally the bottom pay more than the top.
agonarch
It's only accurate if you cherrypick anyway, like taking the top 10% instead of the top 0.01% (making 5+% of the income but not of 5% taxes)
thegreatwhiteblackartblackestmaster
The rich were being taxed at 70% or higher back in our "golden days". Now it's 30% or 0% with the right loophole.
AllysiaAiua
It's higher if you look back far enough. During ww2 it was upwards of 95%.
luxter7
Make America great would be taxing the 1%
agonarch
Ooh ooh now do companies!
AllGloryToTheDarkLord
Amazon paid $0. In corporate tax, and received $26 million in tax refunds. Trump hasnt paid taxes in decades because he posts losses yearly
N8TheM8
Amazon $0 taxes because they operate close to zero income. Plus cities give them huge breaks to bring in jobs. Former Amazon drone here. 1/2
N8TheM8
Not saying it's the way it should or shouldn't be, just stating what I know from the inside. 2/2
Lanhdanan
Trump lost 10 billion in 10 years!
AllGloryToTheDarkLord
Wow, what a great businessman