2012 Boeing 727 crash experiment to determine where the safest spot is on the plane over Mexico

Sep 11, 2022 12:22 AM

DoctorDerk

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I always choose wing seats, but only because I like a point of reference and seeing the wing do wing stuff.

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I hoped.

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So be the person filming the crash. Got it.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The rear toilet is where I'm sitting from now on. Knock all you want.

4 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

If you’re flying in a 727, go ahead and sit wherever

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

I've always assumed it was a window seat as close to the middle of either wing as possible.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Well, I’m sure as hell not flying first class on a 727 any time in the future.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I mean, Considering their age and how many are actually still in service let alone passenger service? I don't think many are at all

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Spoiler alert - probably not right there:

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

But it's got the best window, and what a view.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Us poor people are gonna be just fine.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I always end up in the ass of the plan, so I'm honky doo

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The front fell off!

4 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

Thanks John & Brian...

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

A little faster and I don’t think anyone is walking away without something

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Would you rather sit in Smoking or Burned Beyond Recognition?

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Ohhh that early 2000s bitcrushed audio.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Mexico, definitely the safest spot

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Wonder if a gear up landing would have saved the front of the fuselage?

4 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

Maybe a little, but the way it broke up as soon as it touched, I'm thinking those things are more fragile than I realized.

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

I don't think most of them are designed to withstand being driven straight into the ground

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Then Jerry climbs out of the wreck and goes "Somewhere 'round the middle part was most comfortable!"

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Apparently the safest spot is not over Mexico.

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Over the wings. Always over the wings. The most heavily guarded spot. Fuel and lift. Two things you need to fly.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Why did they have the wheels down???? It’s not water…

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Only over Mexico?

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Gotta be the rear. I’ve heard of planes flying into mountains … but never reversing into them.

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Dang! Good thing we have lap belts otherwise we'd be done butter toast. Wonder if the slip n slide is used for dessert evac

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

what if you're not over Mexico

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Then your fucked. Also all passenger 727s are retired, the remaining ones don't have seats.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You keep living with New Mexico hoping she doesn't find out.

4 years ago | Likes 61 Dislikes 0

F'd in the A. Trees? Super F'd in the A.

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Was no longer over Mexico when it crashed.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Just have to fly until you're over Mexico.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

LMAO comments are brilliant tonight

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Fly to Mexico.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That's a good point. They need to do a hell of a lot more testing, uncluding places over the jungle in Mexico, not just the desert.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's ok. You'll get over Mexico some day, buddy.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

W?jat

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It's the same but without the yellow tint/filter

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

No, I don’t think they will ever get over Mexico.

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Oveur Mexico? Or Unger Dunn?

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Roger.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Our relationship would be fine if you could just get over Mexico! Ugh

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4 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

They crash planes every where. This was just an example.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

or more importantly, which part of Mexico?

4 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

All México

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The sandy part.

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The Mexican part.

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Then you're probably not in that plane.

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

What happened?

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Looks like there was a 727 over Mexico that was destined to crash in 2012. They ran an experiment to determine the safest spot on the >>

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>> plane was, so they could inform the plane and its passengers to move to that spot in the plane to minimize casualties.

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This is the grimmest message ever delivered of all time.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Like Phoenix or Denver or O'Hare or Dallas fort worth or lax or sfo, or lmnopqrxtuvwxyz

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Ride center tail wing

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Tough luck, all you first- and business-class folks up front.

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I was thinking all us poor folk in the back by the bathrooms will be just fine.

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still beats coach amirite

4 years ago | Likes 49 Dislikes 1

I tell ya what

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Is actually pretty well known that coach is safer in a crash, even before this

4 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 1

It’s by design. Who were the most worthless people on Gilligan’s Island? Yep, the Howells.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Having worked around planes and their historical design... nah bro, you way off. It's a trend that started before engines were a thing

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Well they did get there first.

4 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Who knew air travel was so anti-capitalist?

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Always thought it was odd that on most transport the first class is up front…:

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

should be all the way in the back since they load on first, but they do it to make the poor ppl walk by the rich ppl.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They're designed to crush on impact.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Better loot for the survivors.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

They'll fix that in future iterations. By version 3 the rich won't even spill their drinks and the poors will just explode just in case.

4 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 2

The first class section will just eject with parachutes and gently fall to the ground.

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That earned a hearty laugh from me

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Keep the actual workers safe?

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Aren't the stewardess' jump seats just behind the cockpit?

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Well fuck the pilots, I guess

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You’re paying for a quick and painless death.

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Yep. At least my knees won’t be screaming at me due to a lack of legroom.

4 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 0

The only time when the back is better ?

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The seat that literally doesn’t decline at all? Emergency exit seat is king.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Not the only time.. I can think of several moments where being in the back is a good place to be

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What did they determine?

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'not there'

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Middle. Which is obvious if you think about it

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Stay the fuck out of the cockpit.

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All planes land.

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Landing on a runway is safer

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Let's just run another 49 tests to get some decent data

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Would think water/sand landings should not use landing gears?

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Now the expensive seats are in the back

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That the jet was out of fuel.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

it's not the front

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The chair back should be in the upright position.

4 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

Mythbusters determined they needed the plane to go faster than it did and hit a harder surface at a greater angle to get any real data.

4 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

... Did the build team head up that myth? It feels like something they'd do.

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They said with the money involved it was better to go slower to ensure the experiments survived. The documentary is great

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Try no to crash

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Full speed belly landing bad idea. Remind any former Navy aviation of that.

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Stay out of Mexico

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The cameraman looks relatively safe. ?‍♂️

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Crash bad don't do it

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Keep gear up for belly landing. Why tf would you have gear down in a real scenario?

4 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Back of the plane is often safer than the front

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Business class not worth it

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The ground is harder than the plane

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That the plane crashed.

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Safest is the back of the plane due to impact reduction. The rest is the plane 'whiplashes' into the ground with greater force.

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That, and planes only rarely back into mountains

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Don't be the pilot.

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Safest place is in the ground, not in the plane

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But the ground is what kills you

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The ground ain’t safe, it’s where bears live

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Ironically, if you're in the plane, the ground is the most dangerous place (and I mean taxiing and runway excursion, not collisions)

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Crashing planes cost a lot of money.

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Stay home.

4 years ago | Likes 430 Dislikes 2

Or teke the train

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Planes are relatively safe honestly, given the huge numbers flying and low numbers that have done the not- flying

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And from 9/11, we immediately saw the effects as well. Not saying it overrides the bad, but the clouds formed by planes have a cooling effec

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(Chuckled)

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That the front fell off

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Ok. That’s funny.

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But why did the front fall off?

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It's outside of the environment

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So it's in another environment?

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My Fave comedy skit

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Well the ground hit it.

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The ground? Is that unusual?

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Oh yeah. Falling from the sky? Chance in a million.

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It was no longer connected to the rest of the plane

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Oh, you don’t know the reference? Enjoy! https://youtu.be/3m5qxZm_JqM

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My favourite.

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Thanks for the link - that was funny..!

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The area between the wings are most structurally sound, and its really a toss up whether it's the tail first or nose first collision.

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Unless there's fuel on board. Add a some tons of kerosene and suddenly the wing area looks less desirable.

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but in this crash, the people in the far back were safest. Wing region took most of the shock, and the people in first class were screwed.

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i would assume that depends hugely on the plane, you can see the wheels being pushed upwards, on a 747 or other model that has wheels under>

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> the cabin this would be fatal to the people there...so the ends are prone to being ripped off and the middle could either be penetrated >

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> or exploded by the fuel in the wings, its generally not looking good, is it? <<<

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Ok, do you have test results of the safest spot on the plane over let's say Alaska?

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In Alaska the overhead bins are the safest to be in, but that is only true in the non-contiguous states.

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Wings are also were the fuel is so those passengers get BBQ first

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