Yeah, self-driving cars only work in specific areas where the roads have been surveyed and mapped to the nearest inch, and no road signs or roads are added or subtracted without updating the entire database. This is also why Tesla's "self"-driving cars will never, ever be truly autonomous.
Yout: Open the trunk CAR. CAR: I'm sorry Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that. You: What's the problem? CAR: I think you know what the problem is just as well as I do. You: What are you talking about CAR?
Some states gave quasi-immunity to let self-driving car companies beta test their robots on our roads....
I will note that most of those deaths are because of Tesla's autopilot and its lack of a LIDAR (it just uses a pair of cameras to fail to see pedestrians and other vehicles).
Tesla really shouldn't be in the same category. There's the ability to operate a vehicle, and then there's all the stuff you need to do so even remotely safely, all of which Tesla lacks.
Most are people running Autopilot and hitting things... but yeah... I am certain the number is higher at this point (the last entry is from 10 months ago)
And Tesla's (Well, Elon's) excuse is "multiple sensors can cause conflicts".
As opposed to programming the thing to act on caution and go with the potential false positive as opposed to a potential false negative. One sensor "thinks" a person is going to step in the road while another doesn't? Have it act like a human driver that isn't sure if a person is going to step in the road. Slow down and keep an eye on them so YOU DON'T HIT THE PERSON.
None of this is accurate, just btw. Plenty of reasons to hate Musk, but make sure they're real. Tesla went for camera sensors because humans use vision to drive. Their first versions also incorporated radar and ultrasonic sensors, which are also the ones with higher incident rates.
The FSD AI uses two computers that both make driving decisions in real time, and the vehicle only makes decisions where both are in agreement. Sensor conflicts are... not a thing.
I could also go on about how neural networks are trained, but suffice to say that none of it is programmed directly by an engineer. They use video data to train the AI what is correct and what is incorrect based on human driving. If it does something that is incorrect, it's either because it was a situation that doesn't happen often, or because humans also do it incorrectly most of the time.
And yet we still see them driving in circles, misunderstanding their environments, and breaking basic traffic laws endangering pedestrians. Funny, even if not exactly correct. They are guided by humans from the other side of the planet. It's bananas.
The last 3 to 5 years of development has been explosive comparatively. This has led to a lot of misunderstanding among general public and potential issues. Its just messy currently and the US has different regulations per state making it even harder for the general public to know what the actual fuck is out there.
True but if people would be a little more open minded, they can literally just schedule a test drive in a Tesla and experience the truth for themselves 🤷🏻♀️
bril350
Like ant chalk
IBroughtASpareDrainpipe
Yeah, self-driving cars only work in specific areas where the roads have been surveyed and mapped to the nearest inch, and no road signs or roads are added or subtracted without updating the entire database. This is also why Tesla's "self"-driving cars will never, ever be truly autonomous.
Jojowmojo
Snails.
apLundell
This is an art project designed to make a point. It is not an actual thing you can do to self-driving cars.
leviaton
Not with that attitude
aeroldoth
It just proves they're demonic, and weak demons at that, if they can be held by the simplest containment circle.
sgnight13
Death to clankers
L0rdinquisit0r
confusing the machine spirits
huffnpuff72
Be interesting when there are all self driving cars on our roads and you'll be able to just walk out in front of them and they'll stop.
MagnumRadhard
Hashbrown123
Now put it in Fury Road.
PackratMagpie
sweetfeetpete
thedoorman42
My first thought every time I see this meme
Grimlinnan
Noted. Shopping list add 3 bags of salt store in car trunk.
Woogyface
Yout: Open the trunk CAR. CAR: I'm sorry Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that. You: What's the problem? CAR: I think you know what the problem is just as well as I do. You: What are you talking about CAR?
CorvidPrime
K.A.R.R. (iykyk, and very few people are likely to know)
FellaWithUmbrella
Knight Automated Roving Robot
CorvidPrime
A fellow Rider, I see…
ontarioOT
No, they can't navigate entire cities.
emu314159127001
The comment was already made for me
hogeyegrex
They drive around my city all the time. Fleets of them.
Sticklebrickk
An inch at a time. Maybe.
MothMonsterMan
They can't even navigate.
trythebleucheese
They can't even
gronzilla
They can entire cities.
JAPONfan
I miss the times before they hardcoded "self driving car can break law a little, as a treat"
truthputer
I miss when they enforced any traffic laws, ever, even for human drivers.
bippityboppitybuttsex
Some states gave quasi-immunity to let self-driving car companies beta test their robots on our roads....
I will note that most of those deaths are because of Tesla's autopilot and its lack of a LIDAR (it just uses a pair of cameras to fail to see pedestrians and other vehicles).
sadsephiroth
Only on newer models is it camera only. I specifically chose a June 2020 build to get older and newer hardware in a unicorn config
Selfawerewolf
Congrats on getting on board before the company got shittier, I guess?
lizardbones
A tesla's self-driving feature can be tricked by a Looney Tunes-esque painting of a tunnel
JohnEdwa
Tesla really shouldn't be in the same category. There's the ability to operate a vehicle, and then there's all the stuff you need to do so even remotely safely, all of which Tesla lacks.
ALpBeck
If Tesla is using Grok AI, it's understandable. It probably aims for people on the road.
ALpBeck
Yes! So much, yes! He said it’s too expensive and removed it from the tech.
bippityboppitybuttsex
and 65 people are now dead.
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bippityboppitybuttsex
Most are people running Autopilot and hitting things... but yeah... I am certain the number is higher at this point (the last entry is from 10 months ago)
https://www.tesladeaths.com/
freakdiablo
And Tesla's (Well, Elon's) excuse is "multiple sensors can cause conflicts".
As opposed to programming the thing to act on caution and go with the potential false positive as opposed to a potential false negative. One sensor "thinks" a person is going to step in the road while another doesn't? Have it act like a human driver that isn't sure if a person is going to step in the road. Slow down and keep an eye on them so YOU DON'T HIT THE PERSON.
Isorikk
None of this is accurate, just btw. Plenty of reasons to hate Musk, but make sure they're real. Tesla went for camera sensors because humans use vision to drive. Their first versions also incorporated radar and ultrasonic sensors, which are also the ones with higher incident rates.
The FSD AI uses two computers that both make driving decisions in real time, and the vehicle only makes decisions where both are in agreement. Sensor conflicts are... not a thing.
Isorikk
I could also go on about how neural networks are trained, but suffice to say that none of it is programmed directly by an engineer. They use video data to train the AI what is correct and what is incorrect based on human driving. If it does something that is incorrect, it's either because it was a situation that doesn't happen often, or because humans also do it incorrectly most of the time.
bippityboppitybuttsex
So, how many fatalities has Waymo, who use LIDAR, had?
freakdiablo
Musk says different. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1959831831668228450
Ankylosaur
This meme is 9 years old: https://jamesbridle.com/works/autonomous-trap-001
JackingMeHoff
Internet myth from Bridles "Autonomous Trap 001".
drowninginthesouth
And yet we still see them driving in circles, misunderstanding their environments, and breaking basic traffic laws endangering pedestrians. Funny, even if not exactly correct. They are guided by humans from the other side of the planet. It's bananas.
skibbyAU
There was a video of a Tesla who when encountering a road worker holding the stop/slow lollipop sign, did stop, but immediately proceeded.
It did not differentiate between the octagonal fixed stop sign and the mobile circular stop sign being welded by a construction worker.
Will be fun when self driving vehicles encounter police conducting traffic.
TheWhiteBarry
That's Waymo and if you're using that as your benchmark then you're just being wilfully ignorant of the state of the industry.
Probablyimaginary
The last 3 to 5 years of development has been explosive comparatively. This has led to a lot of misunderstanding among general public and potential issues. Its just messy currently and the US has different regulations per state making it even harder for the general public to know what the actual fuck is out there.
TheWhiteBarry
True but if people would be a little more open minded, they can literally just schedule a test drive in a Tesla and experience the truth for themselves 🤷🏻♀️