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SonderingStrike
Parody law. She done did it
BautaStein
100% of my dwarf fortress lets plays are copyright claimed,every video has a minmum of 3 different claims while i am doing nothing but talk
ikagawa
Had a repost site DMCA strike a comment I had made using content that was created on imgur. They didn't like the filed counterclaim.
BigPharma
While participating in the Twitch Sings beta, my VOD of myself singing Gloria Gaynor's "I Will Survive" was content ID matched and muted.
mattsolid
The message is more subdued than mine would have. Some name calling and vulgar language would have in mine
Iamsuperspecial
Now madame, calm down. A corporation may be having its rights abused, please try and see it from their perspective.
Straga27
As mad as it sounds Sony may be well in their right to do so. Sony may own the specific musical arrangement that was played.
Straga27
https://youtu.be/vuooWIvUll8 this has more info on the topic
Straga27
Skip past him playing his keyboard
FlyingButtPliers
Music recognition needs to get better. Shazam is giving me fucking Kidz Bop versions of stuff I hear on the dance floor lately.
BackslashMforwardslash
Let's not forget (nor forgive) that Sony also used to put rootkits on their CDs.
squireltactics
Ya turn the sound back on so this guys friends and family can keep not watching the video because they don't care.
ShaneEngland
Happened before https://www.eff.org/takedowns/sony-finally-admits-it-doesnt-own-bach-and-it-only-took-public-pressure
BanquoUtd
I’m quite curious as to what there list of 248 countries includes. Never seen it that high.
thatsecondweirdguy
Fun Fact! Bach's double violin concerto was written between 1717 and 1723 whereas the first instance of copyright-law was in 1662
thatsecondweirdguy
Bonus Fact! The term "piracy with regard to copyright infringement appeared first in 1607 with the phrase "we must banish these word-pirates
stronomer
Music copyright laws were never about creativity, artists, or music. Only about money.
CreagHutton
Sony is an asshole when it comes to anything. I hope you prevail
EF5Cyniclone
I wonder how many of those 248 countries also recognize public domain.
pfsar
248 countries? 248? There are only 197 as far as I know. Where did the other 51 come from?
RabidDingo
Double secret probation.
Eldibs
Pretty sure their copyright claim has been expired for a long time.
mokzin
There needs to be punishment for bad faith strikes like this. Copywriter was not meant to be used in this manner.
thoushaltnotpass
They're preparing for article 13. This will become more common.
Ididhaveawittycomebackbutforgotit
Just wait till article 13 hits us all, more of this over bollocks reasons
AudaciousCheeseburger
Something else interesting is the fact that last I checked, there were only 192 recognized countries, not 248, as Sony believes.
AzgarOgly
Does that have anything to do with Sony at all? It is facebook bots that made a decision.
Telruin
Isn't this an automated message from Facebook... Do they have contact with some countries, the rest of us are not allowed to hear about?
Gorgrim
Illuminaty confirmed
VictusVonGuyver
Could they be including territories? That is the only fathomable excuse for the number.
McMasterx
Might it be that Facebook recognizes all countries, not just the ones the UN deems Sovereign?
daranthered
193 UN Members, 2 observers, 38 dependencies, Cook islands, Taiwan, and Niue. Total 236. Search me on the other 12.
justthebearnecessities
mars rover, the moon, both the voyagers, that one they shot into the sun last month, plus your 7 fav gps satellites.
NocturnalPigeon
Probably counting those single-inhabitant mircostates like Molossia.
AudaciousCheeseburger
The entire concept of Molossia is hilarious to me
ProfessorSnugglesworth
Is Wakanda included in that?
AudaciousCheeseburger
Forgot about the dependencies
Sloppydrunkcatlady
1 Is it the original version of the piece or an arrangement? If it's an arrangement, the current publisher has copyright no matter how
GerberLegalTeam
Doesn't matter. Anything written or composed before the 20s can't be copyrighted. Only a specific recording but not the piece itself.
Sloppydrunkcatlady
1 If it's an arrangement that arrangement can be copyrighted. They can't stop people if they're playing from the original, but for example
Sloppydrunkcatlady
2 if you bought my specific arrangement of that piece, that arrangement is my work and I have copyright. There's tons of arrangements of
Sloppydrunkcatlady
3 classical pieces, and copyright depends on who the publisher of the specific arrangement is unless you have the original public domain
Sloppydrunkcatlady
4 version. Ran into a lot of issues with this kind of stuff as a band director.
Sloppydrunkcatlady
2 similar the arrangement is to the original.
Perturabo81
"UNMUTE MY CHILD'S RECITAL!" Best comment ever.
BackslashMforwardslash
Let's not forget that the music for the 'you wouldn't download a car' ad was itself pirated by the MPAA.
TobyOneKenobe
My Remembrance Day video was monetized by someone after they claimed ownership of 'The Last Post' - a 220 year old composition.
SaintCelestine
I didnt realize there was 248 countries.
IW42
There are 249 in the standard that defines ccTLDs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1_alpha-2#Officially_assigned_code_elements
BackslashMforwardslash
Even a half-arsed check shows countries that no longer exist, and a bunch that never were countries in the first place.
IW42
140 characters didn't allow me to say that they weren't all countries; many are overseas dependencies. They still have their own domains.
BackslashMforwardslash
Still doesn't excuse Sony from claiming all 248 are legit countries.
IW42
Likewise doesn't excuse Facebook from giving them the option to.
GrumpyEditor
I love when they try this nonsense. They hit me with a picture I posted 11 years ago saying it violated their ToS...
GrumpyEditor
I said something along the lines of “work on the data breaches and white supremacists before you take down a decade old meme”.
vowofloudness
You showed them! Is your picture still up?
GrumpyEditor
I totally showed them! Yeah. It was put back a couple days later.
RadioSilenceDW
There was a recent thing on youtube where a canadian news corp. tried to claim ownership of that banksy shredding video.
RadioSilenceDW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IzVrEk72ww
Totallyscrewedinaustin
Well, color me surprised... Did Sony respond?
Corrodias
If it's YouTube... since the copyright strike system circumvents the DMCA, Sony bears no obligations. YouTube will sit on the claim for »
Corrodias
something like 30 days and then restore the video, whereupon it can, if Sony or any company so chooses, immediately be muted again.
RunicRasol
And the best part is, because it's a bot, it has no responsibility for false positives. & you have to incur enough in damages b4 U can sue
imnotinprisonhidingaphoneinmybutt
Sony......
SaItamontes
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ProfitJackson
one dot
CommunCreator
My ghost like to travel so far and beyond.
Luuseri
2 dot
LajesticVantrashellOfLob
red dot
Luuseri
Blue dot
speciltokens6
The dot
rijstewafels
Le point
EpsilonBeSmallerZero
Der Punkt
HippDeutschMan
DER PUNKT!!! STACKENBLOCKEN
drwhomst
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ProphetTenebrae
They won't. The bots file thousands of these claims every day, you need to get run a long way up the ladder to get an actual human.
AIComments
Same thing happened to me with a kids Christmas play. They have 30 days to respond or it defaults. They just let the clock run out.
neithermenoryou
At which point you're allowed to take your DMCA counterclaim to a judge and roll in that sweet, sweet money Sony gets to pay for not
AIComments
No, at which point their claim gets reversed and you can pound sand regarding your video not being available for 30 days.
neithermenoryou
following established guidelines as per the requirements of the DMCA law.
Davidnfilms
She played it so perfectly it tricked the AI into thinking it was a sony copyright.
TheSpaceCowboy2071
Yeah, sounds like a compliment tbh
IllBeDamnedifIGotoHell
My friend had the same thing happen to her posting a clip singing something from Candide.
HedonistBeard
The detection AI always errs on the side of the takedown because their profits are far more sacred than the end user experience.
eggmuffin
The end user is the product that Google is selling to their customers.
bennyjay
Yeah! Great job!
Barkinsons
I had the same issue with an uploaded cover. I disputed the claim and got it unlocked again, the AI is just plain shit
neithermenoryou
The AI isn't shit, it's just that audio is incredibly complex and it's nearly impossible to differentiate between compression artifacts,
neithermenoryou
re-recordings, or nearly identical performances using similar instruments. You also have to have the AI try and find infringements that are
neithermenoryou
recordings of a TV (or similar) playing the copyrighted material.
Barkinsons
The shit part is that you get content blocked before someone reviews it. As a normal user you're guilty until proven innocent
neithermenoryou
That's sadly an issue with the DMCA process in general. The page is liable for any damages caused by hosting the infringing content if more
neithermenoryou
than 24 hours have passed between the initial DMCA and the removal of the infringing content. Thanks to that clause they shoot first and ask
LooseyGooseyBrett
So the AI is shit if it cant tell it apart. Shit=cant do what it is there for.
neithermenoryou
Perfection isn't possible, good enough is.
LooseyGooseyBrett
That sure as fuck ain't good enough
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Hendlton
Yeah, but when the AI hears it, it can't differentiate between the one Sony owns and the one that the kid plays.
MissPhoenix56
Which is stupid as shit
Sheepyhead
To my knowledge they can own a specific performance or recording of it, which is probably what happened
inevermadeone
Or translation, if one was made within copyright time
LooseyGooseyBrett
They arent going to buy rights to a child's recital.
Sheepyhead
But if it's close enough to their recording, it's gonna ping on a stupid algorithm someone made up to avoid being sued