Actual stanza: 69. Not reft of all is he who is ill, for some are blest in their bairns, some in their kin and some in their wealth, and some in working well.
As evidence of anything? Definitely leave it. There's no such a thing as "The biddings of Odin" (or whatever) and most (all?) of what we know about norse mythology comes from sagas written written down by christian "historians" in the Middle Ages, so heavily tainted by their perspective and way of thinking. But as a joke in a silly video? I'll take it.
"Men are so simple" said as if it's derogatory. She should be saying it with delight and affection. Because a simple man is easily led by a cunning woman. Seduction. Gifts. Generosity. Protection. All to be hers with just the right handling. 😏😉
Not only easily but usually willingly and happily.
One of the 1st things I would explain to new partners in a relationship/friendship is that I don’t like feeling manipulated, compelled, or tricked into things but that I’m perfectly happy to be “used” openly & honestly so just save the BS. Tell me what needs/wants doing and pay me with smiles, compliments, and simple appreciation/respect.
Had an ex tell me years after we split up that she’d been using that ever since with great success.
It's at least easier for Finns to add a vowel at the end 🤷 It's either Valhalla or Valhalli. Not that Valhalla comes up much in regular conversation since we have Tuonela.
I think dying surrounded by friends and family who you elevated to a better position in the world just by being there is also pretty damn honorable. We need less warriors and more dads
Being willing to fight for and defend what you believe in is not a bad thing. IMHO a critical part of being a good parent and friend is helping teach and support each other to fight the good fight. Not all “fights” are about physical violence.
Given some of Odin’s most notable and sacred acts in the stories are about self sacrifice for things like knowledge/wisdom suggests his followers have always valued other kinds of “fights”…
Further, while Valhalla was an esteemed goal it’s worth considering that a goddess ruled a second “heavenly” hall with virtually identical admission and purpose in the mythology which says interesting things about the culture. Also, while those “warrior” halls were esteemed there was also a simply pleasant and restful afterlife for good folks that didn’t die “in battle” which changes the equation quite a bit from the “die fighting or go to hell” idea most seem to have.
1250 is well after the viking age, well after conversion to Christianity. As such, even if we for a moment act like this is real, it's difficult to say with certainty what's Christian propaganda and what's actual viking age stuff.
It's also worth noting this, as the person in the video said, was a poem about Odin. Poems exist which are not written as common practice, typical personal beliefs, or as anything other than entertainment.
Well obviously it's fake. PAWGamal and verse 69 are dead giveaways. However your logic is flawed. You also can't really define what time Christianity took over. Even as late as the 1800's a lot of Scandinavians still recognised and worshiped Odin. A lot of Norse mythology was created well after Christianity was introduced in the 11th century. To this day there are people who worship Odin and the other Norse gods amongst others. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heathenry_(new_religious_movement)
I think it's rather conceited to disparage the existence of people's religious beliefs just because of your own impressions of that religion. Also the false analogy fallacy would only apply if that was the only argument I was making against the original argument that Christianity replaced the particular pagan worship of Odin and the other Norse gods by 1250. You're attacking one part of my presented evidence. Try attacking the entire presentation with more than just personal opinion next time.
if I'm screwing some dude's wife. And he impales me w his sword while doing so bc he's pissed, do i get to skip valhalla and go right to super extra ultra valhalla?
Cool, cool... I just think that dying from coronary heart failure after your 8th plate of Crab Rangoon at an All you can Eat buffet should get an honourable mention.
Does Crab Rangoon have a high cholesterol rating? A single King Crab leg has about 70 mg of cholesterol. One freaking leg. And if the broth is high in saturated fat, well... yeah... "coronary special" is applicable. 😳
Even if he hadn't faked it, many major universities provide small private websites for faculty and students, and that ~ in the url is usually an indicator it's one of those sites. If you were one of those students, you could upload literally anything there. Don't believe something is a valid scholarly source just because it's a valid .edu domain.
Yikes. This is a major lesson for how easily information from “reliable sources” can be faked on the internet.
It’s a funny as hell post. But it’s sad how easy it is to fake “academic research” and make it look legit. If the video didn’t have telltale signs of being satire, someone could easily use this method to fake other information.
yup.. the real stanza reads: 69. Not reft of all is he who is ill, for some are blest in their bairns, some in their kin and some in their wealth, and some in working well.
She could be a horrendous person. But, she doesn't really benefit from us finding this one joke funny because meme content is used and discarded. So, I think it's morally acceptable for us.
Yep, real person with a lot of make-up on. Was in the Army in Iraq. Was accused of being trans, though you can do your own 'scientific research' to see why that is unlikely. But like I said, they posted some things on instagram that are troubling.
AllTheGoodOnesWereGone
Nice.
rebelft
Trelis
Sounds all fancy, but I just want to die peacefully in my sleep when it's my time.
dufusknife
Earlgreyhot6
And just like that i am culturally appropriating some of that religion.
TheLoveLight
https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTY1YjkxZmJlbmZrb2pzcmR2eGwzdmhjem9iMnY4bXJ1NzhwbHMzd2V6djNqM2dxOCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/iGhAoQ53fRVKeYgbmr/giphy.mp4
cytherians
Pontisto
NICE.
skathir
We just ignoring Folkvangr like that?
frozenlake247
Not all of us…
mafiacarstarter
DinkyDoinky
Doesnt say witch battle gets you to the Hallowed Halls.
mafiacarstarter
Honestly, I expect to get in by battling depression.
TiredBanana
She can send me to Valhalla any time.
LincLoud
SPQAAE
Reminds me of that Rick and Morty Episode where they end up in Valhalla and the Vikings are like. "oh shit we haven't had new members is a long time."
SPQAAE
*in Here is the clip if you want. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUMddTVRgf0
fractalsphere
If I die, I die. It's her problem to explain to the cops, then. :P
Berrai7
She just say, I literally sit on his face and if those cops are men, they understand
RevengeIsIceCream
kurvarVillain
Stanza 69 , you say?
Nice!
SeenItDoneIt
Real site: https://sites.pitt.edu/~dash/havamal.html
SeenItDoneIt
Actual stanza:
69.
Not reft of all is he who is ill,
for some are blest in their bairns,
some in their kin and some in their wealth,
and some in working well.
fnordy
Weird how relevant it remains even unto the modern day.
BicycleRepairWoman
As evidence of anything? Definitely leave it. There's no such a thing as "The biddings of Odin" (or whatever) and most (all?) of what we know about norse mythology comes from sagas written written down by christian "historians" in the Middle Ages, so heavily tainted by their perspective and way of thinking. But as a joke in a silly video? I'll take it.
NChomsky
69? Hyggjeleg!
LesbianRedwings
@ScorpionSage epic
ScorpionSage
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTY1YjkxZmJlYzI4NTltb2NzMGYzdHZ6ZjZldmpsbGY0ZWI5dm1tNjFmYWxuYnd2dCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/Y7rtYowpk3I9q/giphy.mp4
TheArchivist314
It has reached 69 up votes nice
Onoratha
guitarfourtysix
I collect these. I started saving them locally. I posted a 69 collection one time. Nobody cared. lol +1
cytherians
"Men are so simple" said as if it's derogatory. She should be saying it with delight and affection. Because a simple man is easily led by a cunning woman. Seduction. Gifts. Generosity. Protection. All to be hers with just the right handling. 😏😉
frozenlake247
Not only easily but usually willingly and happily.
One of the 1st things I would explain to new partners in a relationship/friendship is that I don’t like feeling manipulated, compelled, or tricked into things but that I’m perfectly happy to be “used” openly & honestly so just save the BS. Tell me what needs/wants doing and pay me with smiles, compliments, and simple appreciation/respect.
Had an ex tell me years after we split up that she’d been using that ever since with great success.
JerBearington
Can’t wait to piss off my next girlfriend with I AM AWAITED IN VALHALLA
WickedSludge
Anybody want to help a fella die an honorable death?
CheeseCoffeeChests
You have my sword
kahlas
I think he needs to find someone of the other sex for it to work.
CheeseCoffeeChests
Why? Smitten down by a sword. No word about male or female. Now he got a sword, rest is up to him
kahlas
/Woosh on the penis joke I guess.
CheeseCoffeeChests
I make no jkes about swords, sir.
t9dawg
Danish: Valhal
Norwegian: Valhall
Swedish: Valhall
Faroe Islands: Valhøll
Icelandic: Valhöll
Old Norse: Valhǫll
Skip the -alla
Hoiloidl
Like horned helmets, we can probably blame Richard Wagner for it,
If not, let's blame him anyway, he was a horrible, horrible person!
MaleProstateMilker88
It's at least easier for Finns to add a vowel at the end 🤷 It's either Valhalla or Valhalli. Not that Valhalla comes up much in regular conversation since we have Tuonela.
QuartzPoker
I think dying surrounded by friends and family who you elevated to a better position in the world just by being there is also pretty damn honorable. We need less warriors and more dads
frozenlake247
Being willing to fight for and defend what you believe in is not a bad thing. IMHO a critical part of being a good parent and friend is helping teach and support each other to fight the good fight. Not all “fights” are about physical violence.
Given some of Odin’s most notable and sacred acts in the stories are about self sacrifice for things like knowledge/wisdom suggests his followers have always valued other kinds of “fights”…
frozenlake247
Further, while Valhalla was an esteemed goal it’s worth considering that a goddess ruled a second “heavenly” hall with virtually identical admission and purpose in the mythology which says interesting things about the culture. Also, while those “warrior” halls were esteemed there was also a simply pleasant and restful afterlife for good folks that didn’t die “in battle” which changes the equation quite a bit from the “die fighting or go to hell” idea most seem to have.
QuartzPoker
Thank you for sharing that!
MaharynArts
1250 is well after the viking age, well after conversion to Christianity. As such, even if we for a moment act like this is real, it's difficult to say with certainty what's Christian propaganda and what's actual viking age stuff.
ELKronos
It's also worth noting this, as the person in the video said, was a poem about Odin. Poems exist which are not written as common practice, typical personal beliefs, or as anything other than entertainment.
kahlas
Well obviously it's fake. PAWGamal and verse 69 are dead giveaways. However your logic is flawed. You also can't really define what time Christianity took over. Even as late as the 1800's a lot of Scandinavians still recognised and worshiped Odin. A lot of Norse mythology was created well after Christianity was introduced in the 11th century. To this day there are people who worship Odin and the other Norse gods amongst others. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heathenry_(new_religious_movement)
NebulaWhisper
lmao comparing modern reconstructionist movements which is basically glorified roleplay with the original norse pagans. OK. ^ false analogy
kahlas
I think it's rather conceited to disparage the existence of people's religious beliefs just because of your own impressions of that religion. Also the false analogy fallacy would only apply if that was the only argument I was making against the original argument that Christianity replaced the particular pagan worship of Odin and the other Norse gods by 1250. You're attacking one part of my presented evidence. Try attacking the entire presentation with more than just personal opinion next time.
sadurdaynight
if I'm screwing some dude's wife. And he impales me w his sword while doing so bc he's pissed, do i get to skip valhalla and go right to super extra ultra valhalla?
FacelessAce
No, there are just two of you in Valhalla now. Eventually, you will have to fight to decide which one stays.
frozenlake247
One can just head over to Folkvangr and they can keep fighting to the death every day till Ragnarok.
Arcygenical
Cool, cool... I just think that dying from coronary heart failure after your 8th plate of Crab Rangoon at an All you can Eat buffet should get an honourable mention.
cytherians
Does Crab Rangoon have a high cholesterol rating? A single King Crab leg has about 70 mg of cholesterol. One freaking leg. And if the broth is high in saturated fat, well... yeah... "coronary special" is applicable. 😳
FartsSmellBad
The ocean is a cruel mistress, that counts
OurEndlessNumberedDays
HollerinAtTheVoid
Use a sword to eat them
Lurch1911
You fought off 8 hoards of crab before death?! Welcome in brave one!
Kangadilla
Punkrockpearl
There was that one king who died after eating too many sweet cakes...
Clayman8
Sadly Odin was not there for Crab Rangoon, but im sure he'd appreciate it and add a Bis. mention of it.
rubypilgrim
I think Odin would allow that. If not, I will.
redsmerf
Took the website you can see in the video (https://sites.pitt.edu/~dash/havamal.html), typed it in and... Lies.
He does get bonus points for working pawg into it.
cytherians
So... was Odin kind of like a Norse Jesus, but with big brawn and bravado? 😏
sakm
Even if he hadn't faked it, many major universities provide small private websites for faculty and students, and that ~ in the url is usually an indicator it's one of those sites. If you were one of those students, you could upload literally anything there. Don't believe something is a valid scholarly source just because it's a valid .edu domain.
givemepickles
Yikes. This is a major lesson for how easily information from “reliable sources” can be faked on the internet.
It’s a funny as hell post. But it’s sad how easy it is to fake “academic research” and make it look legit. If the video didn’t have telltale signs of being satire, someone could easily use this method to fake other information.
scptty
yup.. the real stanza reads: 69.
Not reft of all is he who is ill,
for some are blest in their bairns,
some in their kin and some in their wealth,
and some in working well.
colopctech
Thank you for this.
DutchBoeremeisie
Not all heroes wear capes... Thank you, you saved me the time to do it on my phone.
Taitsuo
well, the 69 kinda give it away ^^'
Metallica93
I mean... yeah. Obviously, lol. There is no way in hell anybody believed that. Still worth a chuckle.
NaughtButOne
Luxomancer
And stanza 69...
Hoiloidl
Nice.
ColonKoala
This was the biggest give away
MrStealYourGiF
PwnageHobo
Pfft, being over 6'3" and lifting over 200lbs.f I call that "standing up" and such things have yet to kill me. Lay it on me. I can take it.
GiantSquanchy
GiantSquanchy
darkninja2992
Bigger is always better
SjyiN
For honour and glory!
SPQAAE
"Fwerwer Hnswerwe mhm gnmnmy."
SjyiN
Dont speak with your mouth full sir.
ProcrastinatingWork
Today is a good day to die!
Gryphonosiris
Apparently she's a horrible person, makes jokes about Iraqi's who were tortured under US captivity.
FatalError1337
She's a combat vet with a fucked up sense of humor.
cytherians
Yeah... snippets out of context are a dangerous thing. 😶🤨🫤
alcaray
Abu Ghraib?
darkninja2992
Well that sounds like one hell of a red flag.
AranaDiscoteca
She could be a horrendous person. But, she doesn't really benefit from us finding this one joke funny because meme content is used and discarded. So, I think it's morally acceptable for us.
YoureWaifuAShit
there is no unethical consumption of memes when using an adblocker.
kinarism
That's a real person? I thought it was AI....lol. Weird face
Gryphonosiris
Yep, real person with a lot of make-up on. Was in the Army in Iraq. Was accused of being trans, though you can do your own 'scientific research' to see why that is unlikely. But like I said, they posted some things on instagram that are troubling.
kadaeux
A real person, with so many compression artefacts from reuploads it's amazing we can't see individual pixels.