Another dude caught up on that Madonna-Whore complex. Pure and feminine and docile, harmless, chaste and quiet UNLESS SHES WITH ME LOL YKNOW WHAT IM SAYIN BOYS
Christ i hate the pages that go "men dont want women who do x" most of the time it doesnt apply to me. Most of the time these idiots just want to own a woman like she is their servant.
You have criticized some randoms for making general statements 'men don't want...' by making a general statement yourself 'most of the time....' lol hypocrisy, thy name is MrFancyPanzer 😛
Some guys want slutty women. Some guys want a partner. Some guys want a princess. Some guys want a woman that can crush their head between their thighs. Some guys want other guys in the category of "All of the above." All I'm saying is we all have our preferences. One man doesn't speak for all men.
Women can be whatever the fuck they want, they're not here to service us and we can want whatever the fuck we want because we're not here to be your small dick energy crutch
However, in this circumstance, I appreciate it. Nothing says, “champagnetenor, you’re probably not interested in hearing my opinion on women, men or sex,” like wearing a rosary.
And some men don't. Almost like everyone is entitled to their own opinion, am I right? World would be a better place if everyone kept theirs to themselves unless they were asked to share them. And FTR, I am 100% referring to first dude in the video, not you, just to be clear.
Once you become a Dad and begin to visit a local Home Depot, Lowes, or equivalent store regularly, you may have a chance to make a lesbian best friend who can bond with you over cargo shorts and proper paver placement.
That's the guy that is lying for views and words cheat on his super modest wife with a slutty walmart employee. I am a sexy eligance (I.e. think Donne and Megha in Suits) with slut capabilities with a lil sprinkle of cosplay on the side (i.e. Velma) fan. My knows and take advantage of my weaknesses.
Ok. Maybe I’m misunderstanding you or what it is you’re trying to say as it relates to this post. Are you saying that’s a woman pictured in the video above?
Lol I asked a question and gave no context to understand the intent. What I was alluding to was that 'Women are slutty trope' is perpetuated mainly by women. I don't hang out with guys who 'blame' women for being slutty, so I may be ignorant if there is this strong movement. So in my limited perspective, the OP comment should be more blaming ourselves for being slutty is a trope that steers us into groups
Outside western society, tradwife shit is the norm, along with the tradhubby shit. Are these people wrong and should not be able to have their own standard for what they seek in a partner?
People can, of course, want what they want. But when a person has the audacity to make a publication espousing that an entire gender does not want a certain thing, then we land here, in Fantasyland. “Women don’t like asparagus.” See? The bullshit alarm is at Defcon Minus Eight: the nuclear bomb is calling from inside the house.
Agreed. Then why defend the counter argument that all men don't don't want sluts? But, and this is my opinion, the kid is more correct than not. Would you prefer your spouse to have had 5 previous sexual partners or 50 previous sexual partners. Everything else about them is the exact same, exact same person other than this. If you were able to choose, we both know what you would choose. Stepping back from the Virtue signaling, a sexual relation with someone is special. It is no different than
Google Definition-> Slut: a woman who has many casual sexual partners. Claim: Men don't want slutty women. Implication of claim : Slutty women are the group of women that men do not select for. Updated definition of slut-> A woman that cannot attract males but also has many casual sexual partners. Logical conclusion -> Women who get a lot of men cannot get any man. Alternative logical conclusion: First guy on the vid is a moron.
Agreed. My wife and I both had our slutty days. And she acts REALLY slutty when we get tequila in her. Men love slutty women. Idiot brainwashed men think they don't
i think there's a bit of divide on what's considered 'slutty' and what's 'horny'? the guy in the vid is obviously a moron but a lot of dudes dont want 'slutty' women in the sense that theyd flirt and fuck with other guys. i love sluts, all my friends are sluts but id be upset if theyre still in their hoe phase after getting into a proper relationship or whatever? if that makes sense
I know right? There's even those men that think when they die they will be gifted with 52 virgins. First off, that sounds like absolute hell having to teach that many virgins how to have sex vs just a few sexually skilled ones who know what the fuck they are doing. Secondly, I'm pretty sure it doesn't specify the gender of those 52 virgins. Probably all male incel's like the first dickwad in this video.
Is there some sexual stock market I'm not aware of? Until women become livestock the value of sex is with an individual. Maybe there's a couple sad women out there who thinks "she's having sex, therefore men are less likely to find me attractive" but they are in the minority.
I don't have one because I watch a ton of stuff on YouTube.
Not random stuff.
I mean Princeton and Yale University habe entire years of just lectures all posted to YouTube, such as Evolutionary Biology and the professor did one near Valentine's Day on human mate selection (Yale, I think for this one).
How bout just no broad, sweeping assumptions about what an entire group of people want? Unless we're talking about something basic, like the need to be loved, or not abused, it's meaningless and asinine. Individuals choose what they want.
Not sure if you're suggesting what I said was meaningless/asinine or in reference to the original post.
The drive to mate is pretty broad and there exists certain calculations that happen in the market when it comes to mate value and selection.
It's true that women pressure women to be more chaste, it's not men on average. Men try to mate as soon as possible and women are the gatekeepers that hold men to a higher standard for access to sex.
Not really. Things such as Mate Value go way back to Charles Darwin and sexual selection theory in evolutionary biology.
Honest question, what makes you think this is incels shit?
Women are right to gatekeep sex because they bear the burden with pregnancy so it is in their best interest to only mate if the male is healthy (high mate value) which (in modern times) requires more dates/time to assess.
The old rule that there is no sex before 3 dates, for example.
Mating is no longer equal to sex. Current times allow for birth control which makes it less necessary, also women are no longer financially dependent on men so there isn't the need to find a partner that can support them. Women are actually capable of having sex for fun now without the traditional burdens. Certainly they have the right to say no but they shouldn't be pressured to do it by outdated ideas.
both consenting partners gatekeep access to sex. the idea that sex is some commodity that people trade and that in particular women gatekeep access to it is the incel shit I'm talking about.
Evolutionary Biology is still part of your DNA and shapes what you do daily.
Just like you can't turn off your heart or manually manipulate your hormone levels, you cannot just automatically shut off the neural pathways that were created by evolution in most of your brain that tell you when you are hungry, when there is a threat, when to mate, when to aid a young child, etc.
These are written into us and still influence what we do.
To those idiots, we apply gaming logic. "Git gud". I may not be the best, but I have 0 negative reviews on my bedroom performance. Best is irrelevant, just don't be bad at it. If you are bad, learn and practice until you're good. No one is magically amazing at sex, it takes practice! Now go out there and focus on your partner's satisfaction!
Exactly. A real "man" takes that as a challenge. Oh, he made you climax twice in thirty minutes? Babe, I got a blindfold, handcuffs, a vibrater, electrolytes, and all evening. By the time I'm done, you won't walk straight for a week!
Worst but is that these same guys usually also want the girlfriend to somehow be this sex expert. This, sexpert, if you will. That knows all the tips and tricks to get him to his O-face, but she also needs to have never seen a penis before.
There is where the truth lies...he's a 90 second man, and if his woman has had good sex prior, then in his brain, she'll know how utterly wretched the guy is. But he also dreams of turning her into a sex doll for himself, though not too much...because in his head, she may again think about trying with someone else.
Some of us, also, just don’t care about previous sexual encounters. There are enough factors that go into great comparability without worrying about something as inconsequential, to me at least, as that.
waznewz
We don't?
ADHDinkubus
Another dude caught up on that Madonna-Whore complex. Pure and feminine and docile, harmless, chaste and quiet UNLESS SHES WITH ME LOL YKNOW WHAT IM SAYIN BOYS
CyanideBreathMint
God, there’s a whole page! 😂
Renza0
for guy #1 - I do want a woman who isnt forced to be sexually repressed, which probably meets his concept of slutty. guy #2 - 100% right
salunatics
I love that the captioning decided that vibrators, in a southern accent, is "vybraydurs".
Lostchild12
That's not the name of a fancy European ice cream? /S
madjo
Probably to fool the tiktok algorithm. Can't have naughty words on a Chinese owned social media.
mrthewhitee
Women don't want insecure men... so it seems like this problem solves itself.
shadowfulcrum
First guy looks like he hits on underage women ... from his church's bible camp
Awmph
underage women = girls
Betterbecauseofthem
Vibrators, ice cream and dog best friends - that's all anyone needs
PrincessWendyB
But GAY best friends are gay! AND THEY CAN TALK, TOO!!
MrFancyPanzer
Christ i hate the pages that go "men dont want women who do x" most of the time it doesnt apply to me. Most of the time these idiots just want to own a woman like she is their servant.
LetMeSeeMyKids
You have criticized some randoms for making general statements 'men don't want...' by making a general statement yourself 'most of the time....' lol hypocrisy, thy name is MrFancyPanzer 😛
MrFancyPanzer
Well pretty much all that I have seen, if not all.
pareidoliaperson
Yeah tons of these idiots on youtube. Mostly about sex workers, only fans girls, and other generic incel antifeminist and misogyny.
Herperchick
If men didn't want slutty women it would sure make it difficult to be slutty.
Herperchick
I'm just saying it's a dumb statement, before anyone reads further into it. Slut away if you wish.
Awmph
How does a woman become 'slutty' if no man wants her? #notallgrapesaresour
alexcoldt
Some guys want slutty women. Some guys want a partner. Some guys want a princess. Some guys want a woman that can crush their head between their thighs. Some guys want other guys in the category of "All of the above." All I'm saying is we all have our preferences. One man doesn't speak for all men.
ahorseelbowdeepinme
Yep, Anda woman can be more than one of those things throughout her life
alexcoldt
And at the same time.
ThatTransformersDude
Women can be whatever the fuck they want, they're not here to service us and we can want whatever the fuck we want because we're not here to be your small dick energy crutch
ahorseelbowdeepinme
I LOVE the sentiment but just, point of order
TheMershedPerderder
You also aren't supposed to wear a rosary as a necklace, dipshit.
champagnetenor
However, in this circumstance, I appreciate it. Nothing says, “champagnetenor, you’re probably not interested in hearing my opinion on women, men or sex,” like wearing a rosary.
TheMershedPerderder
He's out there, even disrespecting Mary.
pretendthisisagoodusername
I just want a woman who'll like me for me and I can reciprocate. Is that too much to ask?
AlexVanPutten
Sexless Idiot Says Demonstrably False Thing, tonight at 11
InfocalypseRising
Some men definitely want slutty women
ADKCourage
And some men don't. Almost like everyone is entitled to their own opinion, am I right? World would be a better place if everyone kept theirs to themselves unless they were asked to share them. And FTR, I am 100% referring to first dude in the video, not you, just to be clear.
Pistolstar86
I think men would like to have a partner that has an equivalent sex drive to there own.
LeRubberChicken
It's me. I'm some men.
Plifplafpluff
Avec vybradyurs ou sans?
Akurei00
Avec, s'il vous plaît.
MasterAndPaquete
Oui
UnoriginalPieceOfRepeatingShit
I don't slut shame, I slut encourage
MurphyPandorasLawBox
Does anyone else hear the first clip say “womAn” and not “womEn”?
KautheLion
100%
Jawesome19
Don't slut shame. Don't advice shame. Stop fucking shaming everyone. Just enjoy the fucking scenery before you're worm food
JustaSimplePlumber
As a straight man, I too want a gay best friend. Why are women the ones who get the cool friends?
onlyhalfghost
I once thought I was a straight man with a surprising number of lesbian best friends. I have since experienced some character development.
Awmph
Once you become a Dad and begin to visit a local Home Depot, Lowes, or equivalent store regularly, you may have a chance to make a lesbian best friend who can bond with you over cargo shorts and proper paver placement.
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
I'm a straight man with a gay best friend. Been friends for 25 years now. So much brunch. Would recommend.
Jackpot7777777
After almost 22 years of marriage to a woman that still suggests "sexy fun time": Beardy McIncelboy doesn't know shit about men or women.
Rorysaurus
If ages being slutty, then she obviously doesn't want ti settle down.
salunatics
(2nd half that is)
v
igofast68
Not enough Kids in The Hall on imgur imho
hybridjamaican
That's the guy that is lying for views and words cheat on his super modest wife with a slutty walmart employee. I am a sexy eligance (I.e. think Donne and Megha in Suits) with slut capabilities with a lil sprinkle of cosplay on the side (i.e. Velma) fan. My knows and take advantage of my weaknesses.
Clockworkdancerobot
A nice reminder that the blaming of "Women being slutty" is a trope intended to steer people into groups.
LetMeSeeMyKids
Who calls out women for being slutty more, men or women?
PrincessWendyB
Men.
champagnetenor
Objection: relevance?
LetMeSeeMyKids
Because the chains we wear in life are often forged by ourselves.
champagnetenor
Ok. Maybe I’m misunderstanding you or what it is you’re trying to say as it relates to this post. Are you saying that’s a woman pictured in the video above?
LetMeSeeMyKids
Lol I asked a question and gave no context to understand the intent. What I was alluding to was that 'Women are slutty trope' is perpetuated mainly by women. I don't hang out with guys who 'blame' women for being slutty, so I may be ignorant if there is this strong movement. So in my limited perspective, the OP comment should be more blaming ourselves for being slutty is a trope that steers us into groups
Clockworkdancerobot
...these ideas hurt men and both alike. There are women who are into the whole "Tradwife" shit.
LetMeSeeMyKids
Outside western society, tradwife shit is the norm, along with the tradhubby shit. Are these people wrong and should not be able to have their own standard for what they seek in a partner?
champagnetenor
People can, of course, want what they want. But when a person has the audacity to make a publication espousing that an entire gender does not want a certain thing, then we land here, in Fantasyland. “Women don’t like asparagus.” See? The bullshit alarm is at Defcon Minus Eight: the nuclear bomb is calling from inside the house.
LetMeSeeMyKids
Agreed. Then why defend the counter argument that all men don't don't want sluts? But, and this is my opinion, the kid is more correct than not. Would you prefer your spouse to have had 5 previous sexual partners or 50 previous sexual partners. Everything else about them is the exact same, exact same person other than this. If you were able to choose, we both know what you would choose. Stepping back from the Virtue signaling, a sexual relation with someone is special. It is no different than
kojenk
The existential dread of going through the list and realizing you have none of the traits which drive them away.
ahorseelbowdeepinme
Lol!
HardcoreMango
brownribbon
Oh, Bo
HardcoreMango
ahorseelbowdeepinme
I don't know how I feel about this. I'm choosing to give it a very cautious +1
camn333
The reaction for anyone who needs it in the future.
MadamPuddifoot
I just love the first sentence. It just rolls oh so perfectly off his tongue lol
ItsActuallyDavidNow
mikeatike
Was gonna favorite it but apparently I already did.
FelonyFerret
ThereWillBeDownvotes
ComoSeIguana
Thank you!
ConfederacyOfDunces
byebuddyhopeyoufindyourdad
astrangehop
Who's this guy?
FloodingWaters
The Queen
adrianontherocks
Doing the lord’s work
DrPepper523
PineappleLoopsBroether
Idonotbelievewehavecompany
First dude is an idiot, fuck yeah we want slutty women! They are the best
bedframe
Guy looks like he's about to start crying. Bet he thinks he looks scary and powerful.
Jinxer13
Google Definition-> Slut: a woman who has many casual sexual partners. Claim: Men don't want slutty women. Implication of claim : Slutty women are the group of women that men do not select for. Updated definition of slut-> A woman that cannot attract males but also has many casual sexual partners. Logical conclusion -> Women who get a lot of men cannot get any man. Alternative logical conclusion: First guy on the vid is a moron.
popejubal
Fuck yeah! If it weren’t for slutty women, what would us slutty guys do?
Dondarian
Agreed. My wife and I both had our slutty days. And she acts REALLY slutty when we get tequila in her. Men love slutty women. Idiot brainwashed men think they don't
Morsalbum
i think there's a bit of divide on what's considered 'slutty' and what's 'horny'? the guy in the vid is obviously a moron but a lot of dudes dont want 'slutty' women in the sense that theyd flirt and fuck with other guys. i love sluts, all my friends are sluts but id be upset if theyre still in their hoe phase after getting into a proper relationship or whatever? if that makes sense
Dondarian
I understand, that's why I said she "acts" slutty.
Base841
Count me as one of the many men who appreciate and love slutty women. (Non-slutty are awesome too; you do you.)
jackal12345
Isis got it wrong with the 72 virgins, I'd rather have 72 sluts who know what they're doing.
FeloniousMonk13
Agreed, that's my favorite kind
ProChoiceBaby
Sex Enthusiast
SpaceSpeed
If I wasn't ugly and annoying, I'd be a slutty man in an instant!
StellarJay77
I know right? There's even those men that think when they die they will be gifted with 52 virgins. First off, that sounds like absolute hell having to teach that many virgins how to have sex vs just a few sexually skilled ones who know what the fuck they are doing. Secondly, I'm pretty sure it doesn't specify the gender of those 52 virgins. Probably all male incel's like the first dickwad in this video.
Darjanator
We want women who are comfortable being who they are. That's the sexiest bit.
rgraz65
This needs to be upvoted as much as possible!
stevelepastis
rmsrmsrms38
Technically, women don't want slutty women.
It brings the value of access to sex down and that's a key component in the dating market.
JustUsLeagueUnlimited
Is there some sexual stock market I'm not aware of? Until women become livestock the value of sex is with an individual. Maybe there's a couple sad women out there who thinks "she's having sex, therefore men are less likely to find me attractive" but they are in the minority.
rmsrmsrms38
Yeah. Actually there is. Mating is about resources (across all animals, do you really think humans are that different?).
You're right, it is individual... but in general terms across a species the species will try to procreate.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_value
Darwin first proposed this idea and it deals with sexual selection as a part of evolution, despite people thinking this is some incel idea.
ahorseelbowdeepinme
I know many lesbians who'd strongly disagree
Clockworkdancerobot
Who the hell talks about "The Value of Access to Sex"?
rmsrmsrms38
Academics, which is where I get these ideas. Most lectures and interviews on psychology, sociology, evolutionary biology, etc.
I also used these terms because they are neutral, because I am not judging.
:)
tarnok
Citation needed
rmsrmsrms38
I don't have one because I watch a ton of stuff on YouTube.
Not random stuff.
I mean Princeton and Yale University habe entire years of just lectures all posted to YouTube, such as Evolutionary Biology and the professor did one near Valentine's Day on human mate selection (Yale, I think for this one).
That might be a good place to start
flarflarf
incels.
Sasurau
HawkmanXLII
How bout just no broad, sweeping assumptions about what an entire group of people want? Unless we're talking about something basic, like the need to be loved, or not abused, it's meaningless and asinine. Individuals choose what they want.
Idonotbelievewehavecompany
That's no fun man!
rmsrmsrms38
Not sure if you're suggesting what I said was meaningless/asinine or in reference to the original post.
The drive to mate is pretty broad and there exists certain calculations that happen in the market when it comes to mate value and selection.
It's true that women pressure women to be more chaste, it's not men on average. Men try to mate as soon as possible and women are the gatekeepers that hold men to a higher standard for access to sex.
youalive
I don't want to contradict you, but you're righ
HawkmanXLII
Do you, by chance, listen to Jordan Peterson?
Idonotbelievewehavecompany
Who says we trying to date?
rmsrmsrms38
Generally speaking, people try to match up with mates.
Not everyone, of course, but with only 500 characters it's sometimes hard to throw in every possible qualifier.
:)
champagnetenor
I’m trying to cook an omelette over here.
flarflarf
idk if this is a joke but this is some incel shit and you should get these ideas of "the value of access to sex" out of your head, if they are there.
rmsrmsrms38
Not really. Things such as Mate Value go way back to Charles Darwin and sexual selection theory in evolutionary biology.
Honest question, what makes you think this is incels shit?
Women are right to gatekeep sex because they bear the burden with pregnancy so it is in their best interest to only mate if the male is healthy (high mate value) which (in modern times) requires more dates/time to assess.
The old rule that there is no sex before 3 dates, for example.
pandagrrl
Mating is no longer equal to sex. Current times allow for birth control which makes it less necessary, also women are no longer financially dependent on men so there isn't the need to find a partner that can support them. Women are actually capable of having sex for fun now without the traditional burdens. Certainly they have the right to say no but they shouldn't be pressured to do it by outdated ideas.
trippingthelightfantastic
flarflarf
both consenting partners gatekeep access to sex. the idea that sex is some commodity that people trade and that in particular women gatekeep access to it is the incel shit I'm talking about.
rmsrmsrms38
Sure. I am not suggesting that consent isn't there.
How about this...? the vast majority of brothels are full by women and sex workers are mostly women, right? Look at Onlyfans.
Why?
Because men want easy access to sex and women gatekeep and prevent access as a general rule unless the male has sufficient mate value to the female.
And she would be right to.
The examples go on and on.
flarflarf
humans are no longer subject to evolutionary pressures and haven't been for some time now, on the order of centuries or millenia.
rmsrmsrms38
That's just not true my friend.
Evolutionary Biology is still part of your DNA and shapes what you do daily.
Just like you can't turn off your heart or manually manipulate your hormone levels, you cannot just automatically shut off the neural pathways that were created by evolution in most of your brain that tell you when you are hungry, when there is a threat, when to mate, when to aid a young child, etc.
These are written into us and still influence what we do.
Thresholdpush
Totally the kind of flaccid goof that will bemoan the fact that his girlfriend has had sex, likely better sex, with other men before him.
TheDrunkenWrench
To those idiots, we apply gaming logic. "Git gud". I may not be the best, but I have 0 negative reviews on my bedroom performance. Best is irrelevant, just don't be bad at it. If you are bad, learn and practice until you're good. No one is magically amazing at sex, it takes practice! Now go out there and focus on your partner's satisfaction!
TossABabyYodaToYourWitcher
I wonder why they're always thinking about where other dudes put their dicks
DrBlackJack
Exactly. A real "man" takes that as a challenge. Oh, he made you climax twice in thirty minutes? Babe, I got a blindfold, handcuffs, a vibrater, electrolytes, and all evening. By the time I'm done, you won't walk straight for a week!
xizar
I wish you hadn't included the trigger for "Brawndo - It's got what plants need."
itsallaboutthecones
champagnetenor
Bold of you to assume this guy has a girlfriend.
Sageypie
Worst but is that these same guys usually also want the girlfriend to somehow be this sex expert. This, sexpert, if you will. That knows all the tips and tricks to get him to his O-face, but she also needs to have never seen a penis before.
Thresholdpush
Ah yes, the old "virgin-whore" paradox.
rgraz65
There is where the truth lies...he's a 90 second man, and if his woman has had good sex prior, then in his brain, she'll know how utterly wretched the guy is. But he also dreams of turning her into a sex doll for himself, though not too much...because in his head, she may again think about trying with someone else.
JustUsLeagueUnlimited
Some want slutty women, some want reserved women. Nobody wants a chode that says men don't want slutty women.
champagnetenor
Some of us, also, just don’t care about previous sexual encounters. There are enough factors that go into great comparability without worrying about something as inconsequential, to me at least, as that.
Plaird
Nobody tells me what to want
justfillingthespace
I do. I'm telling you, you want a nice, fresh, warm cookie right now.
Plaird
I'm getting a Popsicle in protest
HighFlyKai
Damn it I just brushed my teeth 😫