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ShinksAvoHazaar
Theoretically yes. You’d have to be Poseidon himself and sober to navigate a straight course on open water.
BeverlyHillsBillie
It's also a curved line because it follows the surface of the Earth.
Napukin
Good luck sailing that straight line.
layinginbedfeelinglikeaquesarito
Now you have me wondering what is the longest straight line course in the world would be
ChristopherHallett
Protip: That's a hard, rough voyage, even if you time it for the least violent weather.
Burke616
Right through the roughest fucking sea on the planet.
woozle
PineappleLoopsBroether
v
weidermeijer
Because of the Southern Ocean, you probably have to do the NZ to UK route instead. Under sail, you can only go around Antarctica one way.
Bulmynjo
Flat earthers hate this one trick.
gardengnomeii
yeah, but about 1/2 of it is through the roughest water on the planet.
Targe0
The Southern Ocean is no joke.
Rendova
"Gonna hurt the Panama Canal's feelings"
KiwiGameDev
I love that even on maps where we’re explicitly mentioned, we’re barely on it haha
FuzzBall87
I mean. Since the earth is a sphere ....it's not really a straight line.
AntiProtonBoy
It’s straight in the frame of reference of a topological sphere.
Undrave
You COULD, but you probably don't want to.
orbitn
Lies. First you have to fly up the tail, follow the curve of the spine, and then a sharp curve at the neck.
Icaro76
Ahh but dare you try braving The Horn on a sail vessel? Many have succeded but plenty a soul has been lost to the storms there….
berserk
In the 1920's my father worked on freighters. He said on one journey around the cape, they steamed for 3 days and made no progress.
Scary. Scary scary sacry!!!!
There's only a period of about 3 months when it would even be safe to try.
missastromccluskey
It's a long way to go
Chikun31
It's actually a curved line you flat Earther.
greakel
Sailing through that part between Antarctica and Africa would be a big mistake
Vrh101
Nice that somebody dedicated their time to find out. What else is out there?!?
BenjyX55
Millstone85
Uh
zer0vector
If you get in a plane in Orlando, Florida and fly due south, where do you hit South America?
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
Maybe never, depending on where in Orlando you take off from. It's pretty much at the same longitude as the westernmost point in S.Am.
If the engines, landing gear, and pilot all work properly, you don't.
ishouldprobablybeworkingrightnow
That part near the coast of Antarctica is going to get pretty spicy
Endocrom
No, silly. You'd hit Greenland and Russia.
TheAziz
Where are the beyblades
We are the beybaldes.
I'm feeling an itch to do this with my next tabletop game campaign world.
The shape would mean some crazy naval tactics would be possible. You could have high ground advantage while at sea.
LtGenObvious
In that case, you might want to look into Glorantha, the world in which RuneQuest is set.
ThailandExpress
Longest sailable straight line on earth
brandonblk
thanks i hate it
bromanbro
really shows how distorted those projections are
Finally found the gif for this
I can see why it doesn't come up very often.
Wirefish
33Fox
And stuff like that can be seen as good weather for the Southern Ocean. Could be that plus a whiteout blizzard for a bad day.
Da3n
But isn't that the long way around?
mindstorm8191
I checked it in Google Earth. Going under Africa is 22134Km, under SA is 20846Km. If you want to fly, you'd go the other way for 19144Km
Vacationdad
You definitely wouldn’t want to take it, it would take you straight through the worst parts of the southern ocean but you could do it
Toastywiffle
Assuming all the ice melts in order to go the other way around, you would still clip Greenland and a couple small islands
TheRicM
No one said it was the most efficient
I'm embarrassed at my obvious lack of geography. I genuinely don't know here.
donpat
It is longer but only by a few hundred miles.
Redshadow09
implying like thats nothing.
a few hundred miles longer over a distance of 12,000 miles.. is basically nothing. About 3% longer
Oof. If the 9000 miles number on the line is accurate, it is the short way. Earth is about 25000 miles around. Thanks Google!
pfunk81
I don't think the 9k miles is accurate, that picture is illegible. Did a measurement on google maps and looks like ~12.7k.
It's the most direct route, but it takes you though some of the roughest waters on earth. So even though it's plotted in a straight line ->
the actual journey would never be able to fully stick to it.
DoctorPitt
Maybe on the map made by big cartography, everyone with common since knows you'd hit ice wall and even if you got pass that you'd fall off
Kyllan82
This is perfect with all the spelling errors
That part actually wasn't intentional I just have a tendency to type too quickly resulting in spelling and grammatical mistakes
BoogiesOogie
Good old common since
OnismPiglet
No. When you reach the edge you reappear at the other edge opposite to the edge you were at. In a never-ending loop.
ScottPerri
Global warming fixed the ice wall problem.
AgainstMethod
Flat earth theorists have at least some half-baked answer for nearly everything you could throw at them, but I've never heard them try >
< to explain how people get around the Southern Hemisphere so fast.
RecurringNightmare
they dont explain it, they just deny it...everyone who travels by plane or ship across the southern hemispehere is an insider, ship and >
> plane travel logs are all manipulated, blablabla...<<<
LongtimeLurkerFirsTimePoster
I refuse to believe they believe it. Just a lucrative grift. Harmless except for exploiting ppl and softening them up for other nonsense.
the edge and into space
BigTex1
When you get to the edge you go to the other side. Just flip the map over dumbass.
Frostycopper
Pfth. Get a load of this guy, still believing in space. Hah!
TheFunionKnight
There's no ice wall just big weird seq creatures like on the proper old maps they are old and therefore correct
MrBismarck
*sex creatures
Like the manatee
LrrrRulerofThePlanetOmicronPerseiVIII
The old maps are more accurate because they’re closer to the source material
WizardofAnus
Well, they were made by people that had to actually go out there and measure it, obviously.
YpsilantiRomani
I think it would be quicker if you followed the curviture of the earth
MarcUK
Actually, if you took a plane, that would be quicker... xD
danielsan1977
Says you. *digs a hole straight through the Earth from New Zealand to UK*
bebop245894
Fuck yeah. This guy. Fuck yeah, guy ? ??
CrazyCatLad
Well if you wanna go through the Earth, Hillary Swank is your pilot.
whatsisname
What do you think this path is doing?
Lionskull
isn't that what is happening by charting the path on a globe instead of on a flat map?
This is much further distance-wise because they are going all the way south past Antarctica then back north to nz. A more direct route would
but that doesn't satisfy the claim of a "straight line"
pass through the Panama canal in Central America then proceed to NZ, saving many miles travelled.
secondtalon
Yes. But is it a straight line?
ATerribleArtist
You're gonna go around the horn like a gentleman.
I take that back. It is nearly even.
LoopStricken
This seemed obvious given that the Earth is essentially a globe. No?
firesnake
+1 for doing the research and providing the proof, even when it doesn't meet your initial claim. We need more like you.
Might be a much easier journey without going through the Antarctic though
TAYLORSWlFT
[angry Euler noises]
QuiteHugeMegaPlusUltra
TsubakiTragic
genius personified... the referred, not the referrer... although
ThatChapThere
Wouldn't that be Euclid? Or am I missing something?
Chievestevenbouigon
Euclidean glGeometry is all 2D. Euler and others worked on Spherical Geometry and other types
Spherical geometry lets you make a triangle with 3 right angles
Wow what a reference
ImShocked
Yeah, that one takes the pi
kopeezie
[quaternion laughs gimbally]
icanc4
The great circle route is always the shortest route between to points on a sphere. Which seems to be what is illustrated here.
Almost. The two points that define the great circle separate it into two arcs—one long; one short. Only the short arc is the shortest route.
joot
Unless you’re sailing, and the shorter arc goes through the ice of the polar cap and Chukotka. ?
Congratulations on the promotion
ChrisCorona
Is there an option not to follow the curvature of the earth?
DefinitelyNotMadeOfBees
Hm. I suppose a sufficiently fast neutrino could buzz right through NZ and UK without being impacted much by Earth or its gravity.
smegheadenergy
Zig and zag?
SacrificialClam
Its called believing the earth is flat.
LEJ316
You need an Elf on board.
wintermute93
Yeah, you just need a really big drill. And some high-quality heat shielding.
MickeyCallahan
Maybe a big ol' rocket would be more feasible.
cookies87
That would still follow the curvature of the earth
PunIshErnest
No, you wouldn't follow curvature, but would be extra mindful of it. Most likely it would be a longer way too.
vwyx
Sailing is pretty much never a straight line anyway.
DaveSamsonite
I swam that whole distance once in a single night. I felt so alive and powerful as if every shark feared me. Then I woke up from my fever.
It’s a curve in 3D space that projects to a line on a 2d map. Put a string on a globe to convince yourself of that.
DoctorNinjah
The earth is curved anyway.
xj4low
And screw the southern ocean. Are you trying to die?
Also I'm fairly certain the current in the southern ocean goes from west to east. I've only seen purpose built race sailboats there.
kamkor1
So a bicurious line
theresamooselooseabootthishoose
That's such a tacky comment
BossaNossa
? i seen what you did there ?
JerryCan7331
Hello there, handsome traveler.
IcouldntfindmymedsthismorningsoItookyours
I like the cut of your jib
Allusernamesaretakensoichoosethis
Cut him some slack!
Tall ships and tall tales
Hotjoe1991
I have no idea what you're talking aboat
OkButWhyWereTheyFilming
This is one hull of a comment thread
ThanosTheGreat
Are you saying…the ocean makes sailing gay?
factcheckmate
Inspiration for Gentleman Pirate
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
In the Navy
alcamar
Well, there are a whole lot of sea men involved...
AtsaMattaForMe
Lithens
Fuckin lol
cheeseplate1971
Forward, never straight. Lol
Jonesso
i don't know, you should ask the navy about the whole gay thing
TheSlurmFactory
All those seamen on the poop deck? Perhaps
SarcasticComment
must be all the spray
jimfalconer611
darthstormer
I think it's more being trapped on a boat with three dozen men for months at a time.
SinfulDeviant
At least you get to play Navy Snooker
Awash with seamen
WoodORama
It's not gay if you're underway!
justherefortheconfession
Is that why my brother who enlisted in the Navy has a "no homo" tramp stamp?
ballsoutflyer
In the navy! You can sail the seven seas!
doppelfisch
In the navy! You can set your mind at ease!
PunnyTiger
Came here to say that. You can travel a mostly straight line on a motor powered boat, but not a sailboat.
Kabibble
It’s often still called sailing when you are using engines
well that's stupid. lets go sailing with my 2000 ton diesel engine and zero sail..
Set sail for adventure!
ShinksAvoHazaar
Theoretically yes. You’d have to be Poseidon himself and sober to navigate a straight course on open water.
BeverlyHillsBillie
It's also a curved line because it follows the surface of the Earth.
Napukin
Good luck sailing that straight line.
layinginbedfeelinglikeaquesarito
Now you have me wondering what is the longest straight line course in the world would be
ChristopherHallett
Protip: That's a hard, rough voyage, even if you time it for the least violent weather.
Burke616
Right through the roughest fucking sea on the planet.
woozle
PineappleLoopsBroether
weidermeijer
Because of the Southern Ocean, you probably have to do the NZ to UK route instead. Under sail, you can only go around Antarctica one way.
Bulmynjo
Flat earthers hate this one trick.
gardengnomeii
yeah, but about 1/2 of it is through the roughest water on the planet.
Targe0
The Southern Ocean is no joke.
Rendova
"Gonna hurt the Panama Canal's feelings"
KiwiGameDev
I love that even on maps where we’re explicitly mentioned, we’re barely on it haha
FuzzBall87
I mean. Since the earth is a sphere ....it's not really a straight line.
AntiProtonBoy
It’s straight in the frame of reference of a topological sphere.
Undrave
You COULD, but you probably don't want to.
orbitn
Icaro76
Ahh but dare you try braving The Horn on a sail vessel? Many have succeded but plenty a soul has been lost to the storms there….
berserk
In the 1920's my father worked on freighters. He said on one journey around the cape, they steamed for 3 days and made no progress.
Icaro76
Scary. Scary scary sacry!!!!
Targe0
There's only a period of about 3 months when it would even be safe to try.
missastromccluskey
It's a long way to go
Chikun31
It's actually a curved line you flat Earther.
greakel
Sailing through that part between Antarctica and Africa would be a big mistake
Vrh101
Nice that somebody dedicated their time to find out. What else is out there?!?
BenjyX55
Millstone85
Uh
zer0vector
If you get in a plane in Orlando, Florida and fly due south, where do you hit South America?
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
Maybe never, depending on where in Orlando you take off from. It's pretty much at the same longitude as the westernmost point in S.Am.
Burke616
If the engines, landing gear, and pilot all work properly, you don't.
ishouldprobablybeworkingrightnow
That part near the coast of Antarctica is going to get pretty spicy
Endocrom
No, silly. You'd hit Greenland and Russia.
TheAziz
Where are the beyblades
Targe0
We are the beybaldes.
Burke616
I'm feeling an itch to do this with my next tabletop game campaign world.
Targe0
The shape would mean some crazy naval tactics would be possible. You could have high ground advantage while at sea.
LtGenObvious
In that case, you might want to look into Glorantha, the world in which RuneQuest is set.
ThailandExpress
Longest sailable straight line on earth
brandonblk
thanks i hate it
bromanbro
really shows how distorted those projections are
ThailandExpress
Finally found the gif for this
Targe0
I can see why it doesn't come up very often.
Wirefish
33Fox
Targe0
And stuff like that can be seen as good weather for the Southern Ocean. Could be that plus a whiteout blizzard for a bad day.
Da3n
But isn't that the long way around?
mindstorm8191
I checked it in Google Earth. Going under Africa is 22134Km, under SA is 20846Km. If you want to fly, you'd go the other way for 19144Km
Vacationdad
You definitely wouldn’t want to take it, it would take you straight through the worst parts of the southern ocean but you could do it
Toastywiffle
Assuming all the ice melts in order to go the other way around, you would still clip Greenland and a couple small islands
TheRicM
No one said it was the most efficient
Da3n
I'm embarrassed at my obvious lack of geography. I genuinely don't know here.
donpat
It is longer but only by a few hundred miles.
Redshadow09
implying like thats nothing.
donpat
a few hundred miles longer over a distance of 12,000 miles.. is basically nothing. About 3% longer
Da3n
Oof. If the 9000 miles number on the line is accurate, it is the short way. Earth is about 25000 miles around. Thanks Google!
pfunk81
I don't think the 9k miles is accurate, that picture is illegible. Did a measurement on google maps and looks like ~12.7k.
Targe0
It's the most direct route, but it takes you though some of the roughest waters on earth. So even though it's plotted in a straight line ->
Targe0
the actual journey would never be able to fully stick to it.
DoctorPitt
Maybe on the map made by big cartography, everyone with common since knows you'd hit ice wall and even if you got pass that you'd fall off
Kyllan82
This is perfect with all the spelling errors
DoctorPitt
That part actually wasn't intentional I just have a tendency to type too quickly resulting in spelling and grammatical mistakes
BoogiesOogie
Good old common since
OnismPiglet
No. When you reach the edge you reappear at the other edge opposite to the edge you were at. In a never-ending loop.
ScottPerri
Global warming fixed the ice wall problem.
AgainstMethod
Flat earth theorists have at least some half-baked answer for nearly everything you could throw at them, but I've never heard them try >
AgainstMethod
< to explain how people get around the Southern Hemisphere so fast.
RecurringNightmare
they dont explain it, they just deny it...everyone who travels by plane or ship across the southern hemispehere is an insider, ship and >
RecurringNightmare
> plane travel logs are all manipulated, blablabla...<<<
LongtimeLurkerFirsTimePoster
I refuse to believe they believe it. Just a lucrative grift. Harmless except for exploiting ppl and softening them up for other nonsense.
DoctorPitt
the edge and into space
BigTex1
When you get to the edge you go to the other side. Just flip the map over dumbass.
Frostycopper
Pfth. Get a load of this guy, still believing in space. Hah!
TheFunionKnight
There's no ice wall just big weird seq creatures like on the proper old maps they are old and therefore correct
MrBismarck
*sex creatures
TheFunionKnight
Like the manatee
MrBismarck
LrrrRulerofThePlanetOmicronPerseiVIII
The old maps are more accurate because they’re closer to the source material
WizardofAnus
Well, they were made by people that had to actually go out there and measure it, obviously.
YpsilantiRomani
I think it would be quicker if you followed the curviture of the earth
MarcUK
Actually, if you took a plane, that would be quicker... xD
danielsan1977
Says you. *digs a hole straight through the Earth from New Zealand to UK*
bebop245894
Fuck yeah. This guy. Fuck yeah, guy ? ??
CrazyCatLad
Well if you wanna go through the Earth, Hillary Swank is your pilot.
whatsisname
What do you think this path is doing?
Lionskull
isn't that what is happening by charting the path on a globe instead of on a flat map?
pfunk81
This is much further distance-wise because they are going all the way south past Antarctica then back north to nz. A more direct route would
Lionskull
but that doesn't satisfy the claim of a "straight line"
pfunk81
pass through the Panama canal in Central America then proceed to NZ, saving many miles travelled.
secondtalon
Yes. But is it a straight line?
ATerribleArtist
You're gonna go around the horn like a gentleman.
pfunk81
I take that back. It is nearly even.
LoopStricken
This seemed obvious given that the Earth is essentially a globe. No?
firesnake
+1 for doing the research and providing the proof, even when it doesn't meet your initial claim. We need more like you.
LrrrRulerofThePlanetOmicronPerseiVIII
Might be a much easier journey without going through the Antarctic though
TAYLORSWlFT
[angry Euler noises]
QuiteHugeMegaPlusUltra
TsubakiTragic
genius personified... the referred, not the referrer... although
ThatChapThere
Wouldn't that be Euclid? Or am I missing something?
Chievestevenbouigon
Euclidean glGeometry is all 2D. Euler and others worked on Spherical Geometry and other types
Chievestevenbouigon
Spherical geometry lets you make a triangle with 3 right angles
YpsilantiRomani
Wow what a reference
ImShocked
Yeah, that one takes the pi
kopeezie
[quaternion laughs gimbally]
icanc4
The great circle route is always the shortest route between to points on a sphere. Which seems to be what is illustrated here.
LtGenObvious
Almost. The two points that define the great circle separate it into two arcs—one long; one short. Only the short arc is the shortest route.
joot
Unless you’re sailing, and the shorter arc goes through the ice of the polar cap and Chukotka. ?
icanc4
Congratulations on the promotion
ChrisCorona
Is there an option not to follow the curvature of the earth?
DefinitelyNotMadeOfBees
Hm. I suppose a sufficiently fast neutrino could buzz right through NZ and UK without being impacted much by Earth or its gravity.
smegheadenergy
Zig and zag?
SacrificialClam
Its called believing the earth is flat.
LEJ316
You need an Elf on board.
wintermute93
Yeah, you just need a really big drill. And some high-quality heat shielding.
MickeyCallahan
Maybe a big ol' rocket would be more feasible.
cookies87
That would still follow the curvature of the earth
PunIshErnest
No, you wouldn't follow curvature, but would be extra mindful of it. Most likely it would be a longer way too.
vwyx
Sailing is pretty much never a straight line anyway.
DaveSamsonite
I swam that whole distance once in a single night. I felt so alive and powerful as if every shark feared me. Then I woke up from my fever.
DaveSamsonite
It’s a curve in 3D space that projects to a line on a 2d map. Put a string on a globe to convince yourself of that.
DoctorNinjah
The earth is curved anyway.
xj4low
And screw the southern ocean. Are you trying to die?
xj4low
Also I'm fairly certain the current in the southern ocean goes from west to east. I've only seen purpose built race sailboats there.
kamkor1
So a bicurious line
theresamooselooseabootthishoose
That's such a tacky comment
BossaNossa
? i seen what you did there ?
JerryCan7331
Hello there, handsome traveler.
IcouldntfindmymedsthismorningsoItookyours
I like the cut of your jib
Allusernamesaretakensoichoosethis
Cut him some slack!
theresamooselooseabootthishoose
Tall ships and tall tales
Hotjoe1991
I have no idea what you're talking aboat
OkButWhyWereTheyFilming
This is one hull of a comment thread
ThanosTheGreat
Are you saying…the ocean makes sailing gay?
factcheckmate
Inspiration for Gentleman Pirate
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
In the Navy
alcamar
Well, there are a whole lot of sea men involved...
AtsaMattaForMe
Lithens
Fuckin lol
cheeseplate1971
Forward, never straight. Lol
Jonesso
i don't know, you should ask the navy about the whole gay thing
TheSlurmFactory
All those seamen on the poop deck? Perhaps
SarcasticComment
must be all the spray
jimfalconer611
darthstormer
I think it's more being trapped on a boat with three dozen men for months at a time.
SinfulDeviant
At least you get to play Navy Snooker
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
Awash with seamen
WoodORama
It's not gay if you're underway!
justherefortheconfession
Is that why my brother who enlisted in the Navy has a "no homo" tramp stamp?
ballsoutflyer
In the navy! You can sail the seven seas!
doppelfisch
In the navy! You can set your mind at ease!
PunnyTiger
Came here to say that. You can travel a mostly straight line on a motor powered boat, but not a sailboat.
Kabibble
It’s often still called sailing when you are using engines
PunnyTiger
well that's stupid. lets go sailing with my 2000 ton diesel engine and zero sail..
Kabibble
Set sail for adventure!