I still say we should have hung their leadership for treason instead of letting them go back to congress after the war. Burning down southern civilian homes just gave the klan resentment to capitalize on.
I feel the same way about Native Americans hunting whales. I get that you used to do this, but it's not ok anymore, and you definitely don't get to go out with harpoons fired from cannons. My ancestors did a lot of unspeakable things that I'm very certain y'all are glad that I'm not doing as part of my cultural heritage, so let's agree to move on, huh?
Around 90,000 Michiganders fought for the Union during the Civil War. Their connection to the south is killing white supremacists and burning their shit to the ground. The meme is perfect.
Fun fact about Michigan! The Michigan delegation was very much against nominating Lincoln for President because he was too soft on slavery. They wanted a firm abolitionist.
Johnson needed to not stop there. That was not the time for reconciliation. That was the time to put freedom's boot so far up the south's ass that they would still be choking on the treads today.
The problem is the Johnson wasn't the guy to do it. He was so corrupt, Trump would be proud of him. He was also from Tennessee, so he wasn't going to punish his own. Lincoln fucked up picking him for VP. Should have made Stanton his VP instead, he would have made sure the South knew they lost.
"Johnson needed to not stop there. That was not the time for reconciliation. That was the time to put freedom's boot so far up the south's ass that they would still be choking on the treads today." -veryGOPAccusationIsActuallyAnAdmission
A bit more so than defending a peculiar institution that tortured and murdered tens of thousands. The south F'ed around. And then they found out. Don't like ut? Don't defend slavery. Simple as that.
Sherman put every man, woman and child to work, conscripting them for service to burn the entirety of the south killing anyone and everyone along the way? Sacrificing the people under his control in an attempt to obtain a complete victory? Mobilized the entirety of the north's economy and resources into his march to the sea?
Congratulations for using a term you only heard from games, and don't know the definition of.
As is typically the case, reality is far more nuanced than that. Here’s a helpful source that goes into more detail (kinda tongue in cheek but the facts are all there): https://youtu.be/OYj9CSxlGSk?si=FwYeR0xF3CMGYwv-
If southerners can be pro civil war so can northerners. It is a net zero argument in this case. If they don't wanna glorify violence, slavery, loss of life, and their own eventual loss of said war they shouldn't wave the flag
No, it's a webcomic making fun of people who think a legacy of slavery is history to be proud of. If you want to express a hot take, turn your stove up a bit.
Macewindow54
Re: MN with that one flag.
Sasurau
CandiedCorn
The confederacy lasted four years, about the same as an average teenager's emo phase.
Lappyrat92
I still say we should have hung their leadership for treason instead of letting them go back to congress after the war. Burning down southern civilian homes just gave the klan resentment to capitalize on.
ArthurT
Thank you, General Sherman! Again! Thank you!
TheJuiceLoosener
I feel the same way about Native Americans hunting whales. I get that you used to do this, but it's not ok anymore, and you definitely don't get to go out with harpoons fired from cannons. My ancestors did a lot of unspeakable things that I'm very certain y'all are glad that I'm not doing as part of my cultural heritage, so let's agree to move on, huh?
bourbonandbaddecisions
Kats8652
PyroAvok
I had my engineers invent a combustible lemon that burns your state down! Do you know who I am?!
pallara
Statesrightstodowhat?
dtcb131415
ill March right back down from Massachusetts and burn them to the sea.
SchmotGuys
MrFancyPanzer
echonite
In fairness, there is an M3 Lee, which was the predecessor to the M4 Sherman.
echonite
OOh, and M3s that were outfitted with british turrets were called "M3 Grant".
DeepFriedAndSanctified
[Looks at DC] Who do you think won, now?
morningxafter
Sasurau
RAB806
lddiaz
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STGxDante
A lot of them aren't even from confederate states they're just racist fuckwits
RainOubliette
We could always throw them in Boston Harbor, too.
imjustabill495
Please don't. We spent so much money cleaning it up
TimbiquiDarkThirty
Tossing trash into a body of water is littering, and a crime.
MortimerMango
both native born Michiganders with no ties to the south
magikmarker
Well my third cousin twice removed spent a month in a Jackson jail.
Frankungstein
Around 90,000 Michiganders fought for the Union during the Civil War. Their connection to the south is killing white supremacists and burning their shit to the ground. The meme is perfect.
Exyr
I was watching a chad daniels special and he was talking about exactly this. Like dude youre from Michigan.
SomeDetroitGuy
Fun fact about Michigan! The Michigan delegation was very much against nominating Lincoln for President because he was too soft on slavery. They wanted a firm abolitionist.
OhIfIMust
Comet260
Don't be someone that John Brown would have shot.
Imadethisaccounttopost
Same here, I miss my home state.
CountingOranges
When I moved up here, I had never seen so many confederate flags in my life. MI what are you doing
GlutenFreeCocaineWaffles
>tfw Alaskan and seeing motherfuckers driving around with the traitor flag
Imadethisaccounttopost
I'm currently in Massachusetts, there was an auto repair shop around here using the flag as part of their logo.
rshini
seeing it in states that didn't even fucking exist during the civil war.
That ain't yours
cardinal29
Minnesota always says NO: https://www.twincities.com/2017/08/20/minnesota-has-a-confederate-symbol-and-it-is-going-to-keep-it/
RainOubliette
Happens here in PA, too.
TheBreadTurtle
tell them "go back to your country - OH WAIT IT DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE BECAUSE YOU GUYS LOST"
LaffertyDanie1
Philadelphia and Pittsburgh with Alabama in between
Bonana
I live close to Mt. Pleasant PA, where they had the chained up "Kamala" behind a vehicle. I saw it in person. I wish I was armed then.
xCGxChief2
My step mother was at that rally I was so fucking ashamed and glad I was in Pittsburgh at the time.
woozle
mithiwithi
Unfortunately it hits a little different with the South currently having the edge in Civil War II.
BlownBending
🤯
redsmerf
My family also has history with slavery and the Confederacy.
A history of murdering slave owners.
LoTRFanatic42
EveryGOPAccusationIsActuallyAnAdmission
Johnson needed to not stop there. That was not the time for reconciliation. That was the time to put freedom's boot so far up the south's ass that they would still be choking on the treads today.
5thAveSmugglerForHire
The problem is the Johnson wasn't the guy to do it. He was so corrupt, Trump would be proud of him. He was also from Tennessee, so he wasn't going to punish his own. Lincoln fucked up picking him for VP. Should have made Stanton his VP instead, he would have made sure the South knew they lost.
EveryGOPAccusationIsActuallyAnAdmission
I totally agree
ArthurT
GOD DAMN! I have to quote you on this...
"Johnson needed to not stop there. That was not the time for reconciliation. That was the time to put freedom's boot so far up the south's ass that they would still be choking on the treads today." -veryGOPAccusationIsActuallyAnAdmission
KommanderKayriel
What we shoulda done to the Nazis, too. We're too soft.
OhIfIMust
Even the nazis got off lightly.
EveryGOPAccusationIsActuallyAnAdmission
100%. They broke the social contract, kill them all.
ArthurT
ALL. No exceptions. Plz watch "Nuremburg."
Germany did good in making it an inprisionabe act to use any NAZI shit.
**ANY**
ArthurT
I cannot wait until donalds library burns to the ground... multiple times.
wargames
so doing war crimes of burning down civilian home is a good thing?
backrideup9
Turns out that war crimes is the American way.
FarkasMacTavish
We didn't kill enough traitors. Now there's traitors in the White House.
cheeriossuckbecause7
A bit more so than defending a peculiar institution that tortured and murdered tens of thousands. The south F'ed around. And then they found out. Don't like ut? Don't defend slavery. Simple as that.
DatDarthCaedus
Oh hey, you're that dude who was spreading disinformation about the shooting in Australia earlier this week!
Still waiting for that source, bud.
Either give a link, or delete your fucking lies.
Sasurau
TheRealArclight
anender
No war crimes in internal actions. Round 'em up, starve 'em, torture 'em, and rape 'em to death. Isn't that what was decided for Israel?
lddiaz
Axiomatic13
Your stance implies that you like slavery. My stance is to think poorly of you.
wargames
my stance is that total war is bad because it effected everyone. not just the horrid slave owners, or valid military targets.
Axiomatic13
wargames
once again you fail to understand that total war and targeting of military vs civilian targets is a warcrime.
Axiomatic13
Dude, it's a meme with little hand drawn circles.
Ikwilstroopwaffels
Yes. Fuck the south. The shame is that Sherman stopped.
Schaade
What do you mean stopped? From Savannah he turned north into SC and pretty much did what he did to Georgia.
Ikwilstroopwaffels
Yeah. There was unburnt south left.
Schaade
Well, it's bad form to keep burning stuff after your enemy surrenders.
SomeDetroitGuy
You really should stretch before you make a superhuman leap like that. You might pull a muscle.
wargames
its what sherman did, its what total war is defined as.
ArchaeoJones
Sherman put every man, woman and child to work, conscripting them for service to burn the entirety of the south killing anyone and everyone along the way? Sacrificing the people under his control in an attempt to obtain a complete victory? Mobilized the entirety of the north's economy and resources into his march to the sea?
Congratulations for using a term you only heard from games, and don't know the definition of.
SomeDetroitGuy
Neither "Sherman" nor "Total War" are anywhere in the meme or the title. That's 100% stuff you brought to this and 0% anything that appears above.
wargames
the whole "burning is my heritage" is sherman and his march of total war.
Migotchi
As is typically the case, reality is far more nuanced than that. Here’s a helpful source that goes into more detail (kinda tongue in cheek but the facts are all there): https://youtu.be/OYj9CSxlGSk?si=FwYeR0xF3CMGYwv-
TheAdventuresofCarltheIncompetentLabAssisstant
How does it feel knowing your hot take is only lukewarm?
wargames
its a post supporting total war. civilian target are targeted just as much as military target. its a post saying war crimes are good.
Myoron
Where in the comic is it stating that? The right sphere is flying the flag of an enemy country, there's no indication it's a civilian doing it.
cambam3000
If southerners can be pro civil war so can northerners. It is a net zero argument in this case. If they don't wanna glorify violence, slavery, loss of life, and their own eventual loss of said war they shouldn't wave the flag
Whitebeardthepirate
let it be known that wargames supports slavery. make sure this is spread online
TheAdventuresofCarltheIncompetentLabAssisstant
No, it's a webcomic making fun of people who think a legacy of slavery is history to be proud of. If you want to express a hot take, turn your stove up a bit.
TimbiquiDarkThirty
It's a post denouncing people that like the idea of waging a treasonous war for the explicit and well documented reason of race-based chattel slavery.
It's in the opening lines of the traitors constitutions. It was in the speeches. It's what the people still flying that flag want to bring back.
And no matter how much you lie about it, we know the truth. They wrote it down.
Stefnos
and that would matter if the side getting burned down werent all nazi racist people... you know